System settings -> Location services -> Disable google's location service & Location&Google search
Are there any downsides to disabling those? I mean for other apps than googles? Because "Also allow permitted apps to use data from sources such as Wi-Fi andmobile networks to determine your approximate location" doesn't sound all that great to disable. It sounds like this would disable all the apps that want to access those services, not only the google ones, but that wouldn't be true would it?
Basically speaking, I just want to disable all of googles crap (Maps has the most horrible wakelocks ever and from what I can tell none of the other google services I use need my location) without limiting any other apps I might have installed. I'd be happy for an explanation.
It is a service to approximate your location based on wireless networks scanned by Google. If you turn it off (I have) apps cannot get this information from Google. The only downside with that is, that it may take a bit longer to get your position via GPS. If you turned off GPS, you cannot get located by your phone at all.
So if you just wanted to get information from an app, which POI's are next to you, you would not need to turn on GPS.
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Hi I am trying to understand permissions management a bit better, primarily what all the different things you can block etc are. Some of the things such as Call logs, Calendar, SMS etc are self explanatory, but other things (what they are and implications of access to) such as:
Device ID
Subscriber ID
SIM serial
Phone and mailbox number
Incoming call number
Outgoing call number
Network location
List of accounts
Account auth tokens
SIM info
Network info
Is there an FAQ/Guide that explains these things in detail that someone could point me to?
Thanks,
-Gaiko
Make phone calls
Services that cost you money
This permission is of moderate to high importance. This could let an application call a 1-900 number and charge you money. However, this is not as common a way to cheat people in today's world as it used to be. Legitimate applications that use this include: Google Voice and Google Maps.
Another important point to note here is that any app can launch the phone screen and pre-fill a number for you. However, in order to make the call, you would need to press [Send] or [Call] yourself. The difference with this permission is that an app could make the entire process automatic and hidden.
Send SMS or MMS
Services that cost you money
This permission is of moderate to high importance. This could let an application send an SMS on your behalf, and much like the phone call permission, it could cost you money by sending SMS to for-pay numbers. Certain SMS numbers work much like 1-900 numbers and automatically charge your phone company money when you send them an SMS.
Modify/delete SD card contents
Storage
This permission is of high importance. This will allow applications to read, write, and delete anything stored on your phone's SD card. This includes pictures, videos, mp3s, documents and even data written to your SD card by other applications. However, there are many legitimate uses for this permission. Many people want their applications to store data on the SD card, and any application that stores information on the SD card will need this permission. You will have to use your own judgment and be cautious with this permission knowing it is very powerful but very, very commonly used by legitimate applications. Applications that typically need this permission include (but are not limited to) camera applications, audio/video applications, document applications
WARNING: Any app targeting Android 1.5 or below (possibly 1.6 as well) will be granted this permission BY DEFAULT and you may not ever be warned about it. It is important to pay attention to what version of Android an app is targeting to know if this permission is being granted. You can see this on the Market website in the right hand column.
Read contact data, write contact data
Your personal information
This permission is of high importance. Unless an app explicitly states a specific feature that it would use your contact list for, there isn't much of a reason to give an application this permission. Legitimate exceptions include typing or note taking applications, quick-dial type applications and possibly social networking apps. Some might require your contact information to help make suggestions to you as you type. Typical applications that require this permission include: social networking apps, typing/note taking apps, SMS replacement apps, contact management apps.
Read calendar data, write calendar data
Your personal information
This permission is of moderate to high importance. While most people would consider their calendar information slightly less important than their list of contacts and friends, this permission should still be treated with care when allowing applications access. Additionally, it's good to keep in mind that calendar events can, and often do contain contact information.
Read/write Browser history and bookmarks
Your personal information
This permission is of medium-high importance. Browsing habits are often tracked through regular computers, but with this permission you'd be giving access to more than just browsing habits. There are also legitimate uses for this permission such as apps that sync or backup your data, and possibly certain social apps.
Read logs / Read sensitive logs
Your personal information / Development Tools
This permission is of very high importance. This allows the application to read what any other applications have written as debugging/logging code. This can reveal some very sensitive information. There are almost no reasons an applications needs this permission. The only apps I might grant this permission to would be Google apps. The name of this permission recently changed as it came to light how important and dangerous this permission can be. Both the old name and category and the new name and category are listed above.
Read phone state and identity
Phone calls
This permission is of moderate to high importance. Unfortunately this permission seems to be a bit of a mixed bag. While it's perfectly normal for an application to want to know if you are on the phone or getting a call, this permission also gives an application access to 2 unique numbers that can identify your phone. The numbers are the IMEI, and IMSI. Many software developers legitimately use these numbers as a means of tracking piracy though. This permission also gives an application to the phone numbers for incoming and outgoing calls.
WARNING: Any app targeting Android 1.5 or below (possibly 1.6 as well) will be granted this permission BY DEFAULT. And you may not ever be warned about it. It is important to pay attention to what version of Android an app is targeting to know if this permission is being granted. You can see this on the Market website in the right hand column.
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Fine (GPS) location
Your location
While not a danger for stealing any of your personal information, this will allow an application to track where you are. Typical applications that might need this include (but are not limited to) restaurant directories, movie theater finders, and mapping applications. This can sometimes be used for location based services and advertising.
Coarse (network-based) location
Your location
This setting is almost identical to the above GPS location permission, except that it is slightly less precise when tracking your location. This can sometimes be used for location based services and advertising.
Create Bluetooth connection
Network Communication
Bluetooth (Wikipedia: Bluetooth) is a technology that lets your phone communicate wirelessly over short distances. It is similar to Wi-Fi in many ways. It itself is not a danger to your phone, but it does enable a way for an application to send and receive data from other devices. Typical applications that would need bluetooth access include: Sharing applications, file transfer apps, apps that connect to headset out wireless speakers.
Full internet access
Network Communication
This is probably the most important permission you will want to pay attention to. Many apps will request this but not all need it. For any malware to truly be effective it needs a means by which to transfer data off of your phone; this is one of the settings it would definitely have to ask for.
However, in this day and age of cloud computing and always-on internet connectivity, many, many legitimate applications also request this.
You will have to be very careful with this setting and use your judgment. It should always pique your interest to think about whether your application needs this permission. Typical applications that would use this include but are not limited to: web browsers, social networking applications, internet radio, cloud computing applications, weather widgets, and many, many more. This permission can also be used to serve Advertising, and to validate that your app is licensed. (Wikipedia article on DRM).
View network state / Wi-Fi state
Network communication
This permission is of low importance as it will only allow an application to tell if you are connected to the internet via 3G or Wi-Fi
Discover Known Accounts
Your accounts
This permission is of moderate-high importance. This allows the application to read what accounts you have and the usernames associated with them. It allows the app to interact with permission related to that account. An example would be an app that was restoring your contact, would discover your Google account then send you to Google's login screen. It doesn't actually get to see your password, but it gets to work with the account. This is also legitimately used by applications to add contacts to your accounts, such as dialer replacements and contact managers/backup/sync/etc.
Manage Accounts
Your accounts
This permission is of high importance. This allows the application to manage the accounts on your phone. For instance it would be used by a service like Facebook to add an account to your accounts list. It seems at this time unclear if this permission allows an app to delete accounts.
Use Credentials
Your accounts
This permission is of high importance. This will allow an application authorization to use your accounts. They do this typically by giving what's called an AuthToken depending on what account you use (Google/Facebook/Yahoo/Last.fm/Microsoft/etc.). It's not as scary as it sounds however, it does typically protect your password from being seen by the application. However, it's still a very important permission you should give only with great caution.
Read/modify Gmail
Your messages
This permission is of high importance. Few apps should need access to your Gmail or email account. Email is also a prime method for managing accounts with other companies and services. For example, someone with control over your email could request a new password from your bank. While this is the worst case scenario, and there are various legitimate uses for this permission, it's still best to treat all email related permissions with extreme care.
Install Packages
System tools
This permission is of critical importance. This allows an application to install other applications on your system. This can be exploited by virus writers to install adware and malware on your system without your knowledge. It is a very, very dangerous permission and should almost NEVER be granted to a typical app. The only legitimate uses for this permission are for Market-like apps such as the Amazon AppStore or the Android Market.
Prevent phone from sleeping
System tools
This is almost always harmless. Sometimes an application doesn't expect the user to interact with the phone directly, and therefore may need to keep the phone from going to sleep. Many applications will often request this permission. Typical applications that use this are: Video players, e-readers, alarm clock 'dock' views and many more.
Modify global system settings
System tools
This permission is pretty important but only has the possibility of moderate impact. Global settings are pretty much anything you would find under Android's main 'settings' window. However, a lot of these settings may be perfectly reasonable for an application to change. Typical applications that use this include: volume control widgets, notification widgets, settings widgets, Wi-Fi utilities, or GPS utilities. Most apps needing this permission will fall under the "widget" or "utility" categories/types.
Read sync settings
System tools
This permission is of low impact. It merely allows the application to know if you have background data sync (such as for Facebook or Gmail) turned on or off.
Restart other applications
System tools
This permission is of low to moderate impact. It will allow an application to tell Android to 'kill' the process of another application. However, any app that is killed will likely get restarted by the Android OS itself.
Retrieve running applications
System tools
This permission is of moderate impact. It will allow an application to find out what other applications are running on your phone. While not a danger in and of itself, it would be a useful tool for someone trying to steal your data. Typical legitimate applications that require this permission include: task killers and battery history widgets.
Control Vibrator
Hardware controls
This permission is of low importance. As it states, it lets an app control the vibrate function on your phone. This includes for incoming calls and other events.
Take Pictures & Video
Hardware controls
This permission is of moderate importance. As it states, it lets an app control the camera function on your phone. In theory this could be used maliciously to snap unsuspecting photos, but it would be unlikely and difficult to get a worthwhile picture or video. However, it is not impossible to make malicious use of cameras.
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Hi,
I have a HTC One running JB 4.1.2. I am confused by the location settings available in various places in jelly bean. In my previous phone running gingerbread, all the location related settings were under 1 tab. In JB, its under various tabs and apps. I am wondering what purpose some of these settings cater to. I am listing all the location related settings available in JB 4.1 below:
1. settings > Accounts & Sync > Google > Location settings > Let Google apps access your location
I believe this setting has to be enabled for google services such as maps, google now, google+, etc. to function.
2. settings > Location > Google's location service
the description is given as 'allows anonymous location data to be sent to google. Also allows permitted apps to use data from sources such as wifi and mobile networks to determine your approximate location.'
settings > Location >Location & Google search
Description: 'Location used to improve google search results and other google services'
3. Google maps > settings > location settings > Under background location reporting > Location reporting (has 3 options: automatically detect my location, update location manually, do not update location)
Google maps > settings > location settings > Under background location reporting > Report from this device
If you use the above location reporting option and use same username for multiple devices, on whichever device you select this option will only report location.
There are also other options under this setting like enable location sharing, enable location history, etc.
From my research, i found out if you wish to use maps and like google search results tailored to your location, then 'Let Google apps access your location' and 'Location & Google search' setting need to be enabled. Also for information, i have disabled 'Location reporting' setting listed in No .3 by selecting 'do not update location' and also disabled all other location settings listed in No. 3. But it has not affected google maps, google search, weather, google news. Kindly educate me on the other two settings i mentioned above.
I wish to know what exactly 'Google's location service' setting listed in 2 and 'Location reporting' setting in 3 does. Which apps do they exist for? I am asking this because some of these location settings i have listed above appear to have similar functionality going by their description (though that would not be the case) and i wish to know the difference. I also wish to safely disable some of these settings to conserve battery but without affecting functionality of apps like maps, search, news, weather.
Thanks,
Vikram
Hi, does somebody have an answer?
Vikram
vikram112 said:
Hi, does somebody have an answer?
Vikram
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Google collects those information.
In the stock android main settings you can manually restrict background data for individual apps (though the settings menu prompts you that it is usually better to find the option for this within the app itself which clearly seems to be the android paradigm).
I don't see anyway though, to centrally control foreground data for individual apps. I.e. If I want an app that relies on an internet connection to refresh on WiFi only but the app itself doesn't have an option for this and I don'[t want to turn network data off completely (as I still want to use it for other apps). Other than just not opening that particular app does Android provide any way to handle this like iOS does?
Somewhat related is the new Hangouts app. On iOS I notice it provides an in-app setting to use WiFi only but the Android app does not seem to have this option (v2.3.75067996). Is there any particular reason for this? An architectural difference between Android and iOS maybe?
I was looking through the developer options in my Xperia 1, and I was curious about the following attributes. So was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on these:
Under Networking: "Mobile data always active" was enabled. Will disabling this lead to better battery life? Not sure if it's necessary to use mobile data while connected to WiFi.
Under Apps, what does the "Background Check" option actually show? Are these application that are running in the background?
Under Standby Apps, it's a list of all apps on the phone with "App Standby State" option either "RARE, FREQUENT, WORKING_SET and ACTIVE". For example, if the Amazon app says "FREQUENT" and I toggle it to "RARE", will that mean the app will stay in standby state and save battery? Or am I misinterpreting this?
On a side note, under Setting--> Apps, toggling the following options individually for most user apps improved my standby/idle drain significantly.
Data Usage - Toggle "Background Data" off
Battery - Toggle "Background Restriction" to "Restricted"
I probably won't recommend this for any apps that need to send notifications like WhatsApp since toggling these 2 options seems to stop any messages from coming in unless I open WhatsApp manually.
That setting might help with battery life, but kills smartphone functionality.
nurav666 said:
Data Usage - Toggle "Background Data" off
Battery - Toggle "Background Restriction" to "Restricted"
I probably won't recommend this for any apps that need to send notifications like WhatsApp since toggling these 2 options seems to stop any messages from coming in unless I open WhatsApp manually.
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Interesting question @nurav666
The standby apps is a feature of Android 9 that divides apps in 4 buckets based on how much you use them. Apps that you rarely use will have fewer rights to send you notifications for example. Apps you use frequently will have full rights.
App developers need to make sure their app works properly in any of the states.
You can find more detailed information in the Google developer documentation. https://developer.android.com/topic/performance/appstandby
This is an interesting read for advanced users and not necessarily only for developers.
Hi, I'm not technically minded and hope you can help me with a question about privacy...
if I do not log in to my google account on a new ordinary Android phone will it will have any real privacy benefits? Would it lessen the amount of data that's automatically collected in the background by google?
(I'm careful about permissions and use Netguard, Fdroid and Aurora, and don't use social media apps on my phone)
Thanks.
Edited 21st April: I managed to get a reply from Rob Braxman that I think has answered my question - "all the telemetry of Google (wifi scanning, firebase, etc) still exists and the IMEI is always communicated" with a non-loggedin Android.
So, as far as I can tell, not logging in makes no difference to the background data that is Automatically collected on a normal Android phone. I only have some control over what info is collected through individual apps by using permissions wisely and having Netguard block phone and data usage when apps don't require them.
I don't think it matters. Also, how will you install apps from the Google Play Store without logging into your Google account?
I think that Google is an internet giant company in the world and it has clear privacy policies for its applications and services. It should be reliable.
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I don't think it matters. Also, how will you install apps from the Google Play Store without logging into your Google account?
I think that Google is an internet giant company in the world and it has clear privacy policies for its applications and services. It should be reliable.
Just for your reference.
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Thanks for your reply, and I appreciate your viewpoint. I'm curious, however, about how much data collection is automatically built in to my normal Android phone's system whether I log into it or not.
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