I was wondering if anyone can confirm if there is a way to disable LTE? I just came from the OG Razr and I was able to use the app "Phone Info" to toggle the LTE and CDMA radios. Is this app specific to Moto devices and will it work with the Samsung Radio? Or is there a better way to turn off LTE?
I'm in a non LTE area at work and want a way to keep it from searching for LTE and draining my battery. Thanks!
Edit: I guess my question is, can someone in a LTE area confirm that it is in fact working? Not being in a LTE area, I do not know how to confirm that the radio is being shut off. Thanks!
toprunner2786 said:
I was wondering if anyone can confirm if there is a way to disable LTE? I just came from the OG Razr and I was able to use the app "Phone Info" to toggle the LTE and CDMA radios. Is this app specific to Moto devices and will it work with the Samsung Radio? Or is there a better way to turn off LTE?
I'm in a non LTE area at work and want a way to keep it from searching for LTE and draining my battery. Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It should work...I know it didnt play nice on some of the gs3 roms. Try it and report back.
I'm in LTE coverage and I've disabled LTE with the Phone Info app. Worked like a charm.
Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
bsweetness said:
Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
unolax said:
I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can change back and forth without any problems. After changing back, it sometimes takes a little bit for the 4G to pick back up. Are you trying to change it back in the phone's settings or through the Phone Info app?
You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
unolax said:
I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same problem. I turn off 4G with the Phone Info app but the only way to turn it back on is in Android Settings and not the phone info app.
crazydad said:
You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not true anymore. You can't switch it CDMA in the phone's stock settings . Verizon stopped having this option in the settings for any LTE device around the time that the ICS update went out for the RAZR and RAZR MAXX in the spring. It's not in the settings for the Galaxy S3, the DNA, or the Note 2. Verizon wants to move people off the 3G network and onto the 4G network. The only options in the stock settings for the Note 2 are Global, LTE/CDMA, and GSM/UMTS.
Since it can't be changed in the stock settings, that's why people are asking how to put the phone into 3G-only mode. There's a menu that can be accessed through the dialer, but an app like Phone Info makes things a little easier.
Yea, this option works great. I know each one is different, but with mine I had to go into the settings to get it to move back to LTE. Now that I am sure I can get LTE back then I will have qualms about using this. Thanks to the OP for this. Great IDEA!
I've always had luck setting it to "3G Only" in Phone Info, but have found you have to switch back to LTE in the actual Phone Menu.
I'm just disappointed this phone won't do "LTE Only". Was really hoping it would.
Sent From My Galaxy Note 2 using XDA Premium
bmkindoll said:
I've always had luck setting it to "3G Only" in Phone Info, but have found you have to switch back to LTE in the actual Phone Menu.
I'm just disappointed this phone won't do "LTE Only". Was really hoping it would.
Sent From My Galaxy Note 2 using XDA Premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you put the phone into LTE-only mode, you wouldn't be able to make or receive phone calls and texts. You'd only have data (and only when in LTE areas).
bsweetness said:
If you put the phone into LTE-only mode, you wouldn't be able to make or receive phone calls and texts. You'd only have data (and only when in LTE areas).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The phone info app only changes the data mode. Even on phones with LTE only, you always are able to make calls and receive texts.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
Its TwiX said:
The phone info app only changes the data mode. Even on phones with LTE only, you always are able to make calls and receive texts.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not true. The Phone Info app changes the entire network connection, not just data. Going into LTE only disables the CDMA radio, which is used for both voice and 3G data. It doesn't separate the two. This is well documented across forums online from people who have tried it. I've also previously tried it on other devices.
On the Note 2, if you select LTE only in the Phone Info app, it doesn't seem to actually put the phone into LTE only mode. If you exit the app and then open it back up, you'll see that it's reverted back to the previous mode (either Global or LTE/CDMA/EvDo). So that would explain still being able to make/receive calls and texts if you tried going into LTE only mode on the Note 2.
But if the phone was truly in LTE only mode, you couldn't make/receive calls or texts.
crazydad said:
You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On this phone you can't choose 3G only by default without an app or other manual commands. Options are for GSM/UMTS, LTE/CDMA, and Global.
Doesn't seem to be turning off the LTE radio
Nonrooted, completely stock.
So, I got phone info, and chose cdma (PRL) only as discussed above.
And, I'm seeing NO improvement in battery life.
Measured anecdotally, over the last several days and from battery monitor widget.
I'm always at approximately 40% by 6pm (after unplugging at 650am) with average usage.
Isn't LTE a power hog? If it's disabled, shouldn't we see a measurable difference in battery life?
Any input greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
F
It does seem to be good at lowering the quality of netflix though so as to save me from running over my data limits.
willfck4beer said:
Nonrooted, completely stock.
So, I got phone info, and chose cdma (PRL) only as discussed above.
And, I'm seeing NO improvement in battery life.
Measured anecdotally, over the last several days and from battery monitor widget.
I'm always at approximately 40% by 6pm (after unplugging at 650am) with average usage.
Isn't LTE a power hog? If it's disabled, shouldn't we see a measurable difference in battery life?
Any input greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
F
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The LTE versions of the Note 2 are getting battery life that's on par with the international 3G-only version, even when LTE is in use. So I'm not surprised that you're not finding there to really be a difference. Significant strides have been made over the past year that have made LTE much more energy efficient than it has a reputation for being.
The only time that I'd really think anyone would see a major difference is if you're in a fringe LTE area where the phone is constantly jumping back and forth between LTE and 3G. In a situation like that, disabling LTE will probably lead to a noticeable increase in battery life. Outside of that, the battery drain will probably be pretty similar.
Interesting - thanks for the info!
Seems counterintuitive that turning off a radio and denergizing it would seem to have almost nill effect over several hours - especially in light of the article the other day about how VoLTE was such a huge drain (approx 140%) of regular CDMA voice traffic - due to the peculiar nature of CDMA+LTE with simultaneous voice and lte data.
Odd, another data point, on mine, disabling wifi as well seems to have no substantial affect either.
Maybe this is due to the Qualcomm ?gobi? chip? Supposed to be pretty badass iirc.
Hate to necro-bump this thread, but is there a way to do this still? For whatever reason, LTE at my desk at work gets almost zero data while 3g works fine (albeit a little slow). The app mentioned previously doesn't seem to have any way to change settings.
akellar said:
Hate to necro-bump this thread, but is there a way to do this still? For whatever reason, LTE at my desk at work gets almost zero data while 3g works fine (albeit a little slow). The app mentioned previously doesn't seem to have any way to change settings.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Still works on mine:
bsweetness said:
Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Related
Seriously, the best thing about the Evo was the ability to turn off 4G. Am I missing something here or did they omit this feature from the Thunderbolt? Cant find it anywhere. Without doing anything other than having email sync'd, a few texts and a few speed tests my battery is under 40% in under 4 hours from a full charge.
Open the dialer app :
1) *#*#4636#*#*
2) Phone Information
3) Scroll down to the 2nd drop down box and select the following :
CDMA+LTE/EvDO auto for auto switching between CDMA and LTE
CDMA auto (PRL) for CDMA only
brownhornet said:
Seriously, the best thing about the Evo was the ability to turn off 4G. Am I missing something here or did they omit this feature from the Thunderbolt? Cant find it anywhere. Without doing anything other than having email sync'd, a few texts and a few speed tests my battery is under 40% in under 4 hours from a full charge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want to turn data off entirely, that is in Settings, Wireless & Networks, Mobile Network checkbox.
Or do you want to have it on but slow?
it's not an option via the power widget?...oh no...hopefully custom roms will resolve this
brownhornet said:
Seriously, the best thing about the Evo was the ability to turn off 4G. Am I missing something here or did they omit this feature from the Thunderbolt? Cant find it anywhere. Without doing anything other than having email sync'd, a few texts and a few speed tests my battery is under 40% in under 4 hours from a full charge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i just checked in extended controls there is a toggle for 4g(wimax) would be worth downloading to see if it worked, if it doesn't you can always uninstall it and get your money back
twobit said:
Open the dialer app :
1) *#*#4636#*#*
2) Phone Information
3) Scroll down to the 2nd drop down box and select the following :
CDMA+LTE/EvDO auto for auto switching between CDMA and LTE
CDMA auto (PRL) for CDMA only
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks man gotta save this one for now
Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk
I had warned you before OP lol. My test device have that option, so I'm slightly confused as to why the masses doesn't have it too.
twobit said:
Open the dialer app :
1) *#*#4636#*#*
2) Phone Information
3) Scroll down to the 2nd drop down box and select the following :
CDMA+LTE/EvDO auto for auto switching between CDMA and LTE
CDMA auto (PRL) for CDMA only
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will definitely try this but WTF Verizon? I can only imagine what battery life is going to be like for people not in an LTE area.
uthinkisay said:
i just checked in extended controls there is a toggle for 4g(wimax) would be worth downloading to see if it worked, if it doesn't you can always uninstall it and get your money back
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
anyone tried this to see if it works?
to be honest, i've been playing with mine for a few hours and it barely dropped in juice while using 4g...i dont think its that bad...but def thanks for that info on how to turn it off
th3_g00b said:
to be honest, i've been playing with mine for a few hours and it barely dropped in juice while using 4g...i dont think its that bad...but def thanks for that info on how to turn it off
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The first thing I did was go into sync settings and disable the weather, stocks, and news syncing. Seems to help a lot, since I don't even use those stupid things.
So if you cant turn off 4g, does it sit there and keep searching for all of us not in a 4g area?
Is it smart and stops searching after a while, or long pauses in between searching?
This is for sure a deciding factor for me.
It's simple, because it does use a lot of power. LTE is not Wimax and this isn't a EVO running a 1st gen CPU.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
bad4u6669 said:
So if you cant turn off 4g, does it sit there and keep searching for all of us not in a 4g area?
Is it smart and stops searching after a while, or long pauses in between searching?
This is for sure a deciding factor for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not an expert, but afaik, if it does not find an LTE signal, it will camp on CDMA (eHRPD) to be specific. After that, the radio probably periodically scans for a 4G pilot in order to jump up to 4G if / when available. The frequency of the scan is probably dependent on who makes the LTE modem portion and how HTC has written their radio software.
Im sure it wont take long for someone to figure out how to modify that scan interval. Modifying that (depending on factory settings) IMO would have a good impact on battery life. We shall see with in the next day or so...
Really, that was the *BEST* thing about the EVO? I agree the option should be there, but it's not really a big deal.
Why assume it "scans" at all? I know they look for a data connection when they don't have one, but if I were designing the system, I would have the tower tell the phone what it has on the existing data connection, not make the phone ask.
I have to say that the title of this thread was EXACTLY what I was thinking when I couldn't find a way to turn off 4G. I doubt that it doesn't eat battery. Whether or not it is more efficient than EVDO is an interesting question.
I wonder if the lower band for 4G gives better performance, and thus doesn't require as much power as Sprint's.
Joel
uthinkisay said:
anyone tried this to see if it works?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No i tried it and it doesnt work
on my captivate i used to be able to set the network selection to use auto, 3G only and Edge. i dont see these options in wireless settings, i jsut see an option to select network. is there a way to set it to only use 3G?
No because the phone only shows either E for edge or H+ for 3G or HSDPA.
More than likely you could get an application from the market that lets you switch and see if that works, but.... what's wrong with the way it manages data now?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
Well lately ive noticed my H symbol flashing too 3g for a few seconds then back. Im on gingerblur and not sure if its the Rom or what, but its wierd. Has anyone with gingerblur seen the 3g symbol.
neotekz said:
on my captivate i used to be able to set the network selection to use auto, 3G only and Edge. i dont see these options in wireless settings, i jsut see an option to select network. is there a way to set it to only use 3G?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Newer phones are using "smart" radio management chips (or something like that). The newly released Thunderbolt is the same way. Which sucks because it was a good tool for battery management
it sometimes switches to edge and i wanted to force it to stay on 3G. my captivate would do the same thing and keeping it on 3G worked fine.
is there any hacks to add this setting?
JayRolla said:
Well lately ive noticed my H symbol flashing too 3g for a few seconds then back. Im on gingerblur and not sure if its the Rom or what, but its wierd. Has anyone with gingerblur seen the 3g symbol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have, I even did a sbf and installed just the theme, adeo and rooted and am getting this issue. Not sure what the deal is.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
neotekz said:
it sometimes switches to edge and i wanted to force it to stay on 3G. my captivate would do the same thing and keeping it on 3G worked fine.
is there any hacks to add this setting?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol it switches to edge because you don't have a 3G ssignal; what else is it supposed to do if you don't have it?
You can choose (for throat part) to go down but you can't just magically get a better/faster signal.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
FLAC Vest said:
Lol it switches to edge because you don't have a 3G ssignal; what else is it supposed to do if you don't have it?
You can choose (for throat part) to go down but you can't just magically get a better/faster signal.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my captivate used to switch to edge too but when i locked it to 3G it never lost signal just gets weaker. seems like it switch prematurely when 3G is weak NOT totally gone.
*#*#4636#*#*
Phone options
Click the drop down menu and select network mode you want
thanks! what setting should i choose for 3G, gsm only or wcdma only?
neotekz said:
my captivate used to switch to edge too but when i locked it to 3G it never lost signal just gets weaker. seems like it switch prematurely when 3G is weak NOT totally gone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's all well and good, however if you completely lost 3G then it wouldn't be there, even if you have the setting locked.
Setting =\= Result
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
FLAC Vest said:
That's all well and good, however if you completely lost 3G then it wouldn't be there, even if you have the setting locked.
Setting =\= Result
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i understand that it wont give me a better signal. but i use my cell in low reception area and dont want it to constantly switching to edge and back and kill my battery. like i said i've used the captivate with 3g only and never completely lost 3G even with the captivate's crappy radio.
Wcdma only
neotekz said:
i understand that it wont give me a better signal. but i use my cell in low reception area and dont want it to constantly switching to edge and back and kill my battery. like i said i've used the captivate with 3g only and never completely lost 3G even with the captivate's crappy radio.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol I think I should state this.
I understand what you're saying and I am not saying I think you're wring; on the contrary, I actually do that as well, however I move mine down to edge when I'm not going to be doing anything data intensive.
I was just stating what I said to inform people, just in case someone thought you could force 3G at ALL times, which isn't possible if you aren't getting 3G in your area.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App
hondaguy said:
*#*#4636#*#*
Phone options
Click the drop down menu and select network mode you want
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you make the selection stick? I tried a reboot and everything
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
i think you have to redo the setting when you reboot.
Edit: i just notice that it also changes back when i plugged it in overnight. is there a way to keep this setting permanently?
I too am needing to set my phone to connect to Edge only. I have 1 bar at the house when my network type is HSDPA. When connected to HSDPA at the house, with one bar, I constantly get dropped calls or my phone may not ring at all. If the phone decides to connect to Edge, which has a full signal, then everything seems to be a-ok. Most of the time the phone completely disconnects from all networks when it switches from HSDPA to Edge... not cool.
I can not get this sucker to connect to Edge only via setting the preferred network type to WCDMA. The phone will automatically set itself to GSM/CDMA auto (PRL) if I manually try to set WCDMA as the preferred network.
Rather annoying to say the least. ATT is the only carrier that has a full signal at the house. That's the only reason I that I signed up with them.
yokozuna82 said:
How do you make the selection stick? I tried a reboot and everything
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i just select the band i want and press the back key. usually the signal strength indicator will show no signal for a couple of seconds, then it will change to what i had selected. thats it
yokozuna82 said:
How do you make the selection stick? I tried a reboot and everything
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
xenorabbit said:
I too am needing to set my phone to connect to Edge only. I have 1 bar at the house when my network type is HSDPA. When connected to HSDPA at the house, with one bar, I constantly get dropped calls or my phone may not ring at all. If the phone decides to connect to Edge, which has a full signal, then everything seems to be a-ok. Most of the time the phone completely disconnects from all networks when it switches from HSDPA to Edge... not cool.
I can not get this sucker to connect to Edge only via setting the preferred network type to WCDMA. The phone will automatically set itself to GSM/CDMA auto (PRL) if I manually try to set WCDMA as the preferred network.
Rather annoying to say the least. ATT is the only carrier that has a full signal at the house. That's the only reason I that I signed up with them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats because wcdma is 3g only. you need to the GSM option, thats edge.
GSM=edge only
wcdma=3g only
GSM auto=3g or edge, phone decides depending on signal strength
Installed the .211 leak last night. I normally keep my phone on 3G to save my battery unless I need 4G.
I just went to change my connection and all I can choose from is Global or CDMA/LTE.
Can you not run CDMA without LTE on the latest leak?
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
Chase.Barnett said:
Installed the .211 leak last night. I normally keep my phone on 3G to save my battery unless I need 4G.
I just went to change my connection and all I can choose from is Global or CDMA/LTE.
Can you not run CDMA without LTE on the latest leak?
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try setting it manually:
Dial *#*#4636*#*#
Or install phone info app from google play
Go to phone info and in network menu change to cdma only and see if it works.
If not, back to your previous setup. Just make sure you get note of it before playing around.
Cheers
pedrotorresfilho said:
Try setting it manually:
Dial *#*#4636*#*#
Or install phone info app from google play
Go to phone info and in network menu change to cdma only and see if it works.
If not, back to your previous setup. Just make sure you get note of it before playing around.
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried to set it in the network menu, but my only options are to choose from "Global" or "CDMA/LTE"
It looks like verizon has done away with letting the user choose from 3G or LTE.
I'm pretty upset with that considering my battery won't make it through half a day unless I'm on 3G...
If I dial that number, will that put me on 3G only? I'm on LTE, I just prefer CDMA for battery conservation.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
Chase.Barnett said:
I tried to set it in the network menu, but my only options are to choose from "Global" or "CDMA/LTE"
It looks like verizon has done away with letting the user choose from 3G or LTE.
I'm pretty upset with that considering my battery won't make it through half a day unless I'm on 3G...
If I dial that number, will that put me on 3G only? I'm on LTE, I just prefer CDMA for battery conservation.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dial that number then press phone information. Change network type to CDMA PRL. It'll keep it on 3G. If you need 4G, dial the number again and change it back.
Just be careful with what you click
Awesome! To revert back to 4G, I just dial it back?
Edit: phone info is working great!
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
kelmar13 said:
Dial that number then press phone information. Change network type to CDMA PRL. It'll keep it on 3G. If you need 4G, dial the number again and change it back.
Just be careful with what you click
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But Ive found as soon as you reboot the phone 4G returns, using Phone Info app, anyways.
I am also on the .211 version and i am automatically switching between 3G and 4G. Maybe it is related to what region you are in?
Just wondering...
pbrauer said:
I am also on the .211 version and i am automatically switching between 3G and 4G. Maybe it is related to what region you are in?
Just wondering...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He's saying that if he's in a 4G area he only wants to use 3G
fosser2 said:
He's saying that if he's in a 4G area he only wants to use 3G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct. I live in Houston, so I have 4G basically anywhere I go in town.
Got it, misunderstood the question. I have been having problems here GETTING a 4G connection...didn't realize it was someone that only wants it sometimes.
Mea Culpa.
Chase.Barnett said:
Installed the .211 leak last night. I normally keep my phone on 3G to save my battery unless I need 4G.
I just went to change my connection and all I can choose from is Global or CDMA/LTE.
Can you not run CDMA without LTE on the latest leak?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yikes! I hope that's fixed on the OTA! I'm always in a 4G/LTE area, but run CDMA 99% of the time because LTE will drain my battery in under 6hours. On 3G/CDMA, I can usually get 14-16 hours. Glad I just bought an external 1800mAh battery pack.
I'm using the app called "phone info" that was suggested earlier in this thread.
App works great and let's we switch to cdma only without a hitch, and but lte in enabled when I reboot my phone.
I also hope that this minor issue is corrected in the final product version. My phone will drain in a matter of about two or three hours of LTE the way I use it.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
to make life even easier, download an app called minimalistic text. Once downloaded use it to create your our 3G/4G widget that once clicked on launches the phone info app, seems to work alright for the time being. but a dedicated 3g/4g switch would be great i dont see how something like this could be overlooked by moto/verizon
Just want to note that I'm having the same issue. I cannot find a way to turn off 4g, I tried dialing the 4636 number and it actually dialed the phone rather than launching the config menu. I'd like to be able to disable 4g at times since I am often in an area without 4g.
I really like this phone but want to make sure that the LTE connection issues are able to be fixed with a software update. I hope Sprint isn't BS'ing on this. I have a couple of days to return the phone and want to make sure this is fixable before deciding to keep it.
Anyone know if the Sprint rep who said it's a software issue is telling the truth or BS?
At heart it is a good radio. No reason it shouldn't work as it's supposed to. So, the majority of the issue is software. And it is fixable. Maybe just as good as S3 and iPhone 5 LTE reception?
The big question here is if Sprint will actually fix it this time. Know that there were fixes for LTE in 2 previous ota's. To what extent they worked on it before, idk. Thinking that this time is make or break it.
So, the answer is wait and see. U can get out of contract if LTE doesn't work for u though. It's apart of your service plan. Gonna require persistence on your part to get out after the 14 days is up, but u can do it.
If I were u and needed a good LTE capable phone, I'd go with the S3. Because at this point, it is up in the air if it will receive LTE like it should in the near future.
Correction first update was wifi, second was lte lol
Hope so. Has to be software related since both this and the s3 have the same radio. And, since the airplane mode on/off trick gets it working, I'm lead to believe its software.
Sent from my EVO
celticking said:
Hope so. Has to be software related since both this and the s3 have the same radio. And, since the airplane mode on/off trick gets it working, I'm lead to believe its software.
Sent from my EVO
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Airplane mode trick???
I really hope they can fix this. I decided to keep the phone after looking at the S3 screen and build quality I just couldn't switch. I really love the screen on this!! It is just as good as my wife's iPhone 5 in color reproduction. The S3 is nice but don't like PenTile as I can notice it and I don't like it when whites have a blue color to it.
The Evo LTE has the same SoC as the S3. If the Evo was having hardware problems with LTE so would the S3, but that is not the case (according to what I have been able to look up). Therefore it can be concluded that the LTE issues are software and not hardware.
docmalc said:
Airplane mode trick???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AKA Airplane Mode Dance
If you are in an LTE area and your phone is stuck on 3G, or if your phone is on LTE and it drops back down to 3G, then toggling Airplane Mode ON and back OFF will make the radio scan and re-latch to LTE.
That's the problem with our EVOs, it's an LTE threshold and handoff problem.
I live right on the edge of LTE coverage, so my phone will handoff to 3G because it decides the LTE signal is too weak. The problem is, in my area a "weak" LTE signal is MUCH faster than a strong 3G signal. If I go into my radio options and choose "LTE only" it will hold LTE signal all day long. So the signal is there, albeit weak.
What we need is a software fix that will change our radio's signal threshold so that it will prioritize a weaker LTE signal over 3G.
I'm tired of doing the airplane mode dance. If LTE is available, I want my EVO to latch on and stay on it even if it's weak.
Sent from my EVO
I use to get spotty LTE here in san Antonio so I thought it was the radio. But now I've been getting it pretty consistantly everywhere. So now I'm starting to think its there towers or something
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
mexlos said:
If I go into my radio options and choose "LTE only" it will hold LTE signal all day long.
Sent from my EVO
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any way to do this on sense? I've only got lte/cdma and cdma only options
banccalif said:
Any way to do this on sense? I've only got lte/cdma and cdma only options
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Using a Sense ROM, open your phone dialer and type *#*#4636#*#*
Select "Phone Information" then scroll down to "Preferred Network Type" and that should give you the option you're looking for
Sent from my EVO
Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
Anthonicia said:
Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you link it? I'm finding various apps named "network" something or another but none with just that solely as the title
The icon changed so I had a bit of trouble finding it but here you go Network app
mexlos said:
Using a Sense ROM, open your phone dialer and type *#*#4636#*#*
Select "Phone Information" then scroll down to "Preferred Network Type" and that should give you the option you're looking for
Sent from my EVO
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Anthonicia said:
Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
om4 said:
The icon changed so I had a bit of trouble finding it but here you go Network app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks guys! Installing app now and have the data code saved for a rainy day as well
Edit : after switching to lte only, I get no data (voice or sms) but im able to run a speed test using 4g. I live in L.A. but I connect to an Albuquerque, New Mexico server I'm not sure what else I'm to do to enable lte only and keep data
It's NOT true for me that switching it to LTE only will keep it connected. I still only keep the connection for about 10 seconds and then it goes back to 3G. My understanding is that option in both *#*#4634#*#* and ##DATA# is "preferred mode." It will drop back to 3G.
And I know for sure that Sprint and HTC have an open ticket on this issue of aquiring and keeping an LTE signal. They will eventually get a fix out for it.
I used the network tool post earlier and set mine to cdma/lte... So I get 4g and voice/text.. no evdo. Which is fine by me because evdo sucks anyway lol.
Works great I now can keep 4g in my house like my gfs gs3 and not switch back to crap-do
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Someone try the 10/21 build of cm10 from deck.
I'm holding lte and seeing it places I couldn't get it before even when set to lte only.
This has completely corrected the issue for me.
Sent from my EVO using XDA Premium HD app
Look at the pic and sumone please explain this to me I googled it and all I found was that using global gives you better connection by using all antennas in the phone and just keep the roam off so switch to global and keep roaming disabled to not get over charges but is it worth it
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
gabrielpina4 said:
Look at the pic and sumone please explain this to me I googled it and all I found was that using global gives you better connection by using all antennas in the phone and just keep the roam off so switch to global and keep roaming disabled to not get over charges but is it worth it
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmmm gonna have to check this one out
CCoR87 said:
hmmm gonna have to check this one out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This randomly popped up for me in Lowes yesterday. I was wondering whether it would cause additional charges so I didn't change anything.
gabrielpina4 said:
Look at the pic and sumone please explain this to me I googled it and all I found was that using global gives you better connection by using all antennas in the phone and just keep the roam off so switch to global and keep roaming disabled to not get over charges but is it worth it
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ordered mine online from verizon and when i posted this i was curious enough to check. Mine, by default, was set in global mode and reception has been 1000x's better then my GNex.
I'll try two battery charge cycles both ways (global mode) and one in LTE/CDMA mode and i'll report back.
gabrielpina4 said:
Look at the pic and sumone please explain this to me I googled it and all I found was that using global gives you better connection by using all antennas in the phone and just keep the roam off so switch to global and keep roaming disabled to not get over charges but is it worth it
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is funny that you would post this because I just had the opposite experience. I am on an unlimited Verizon data plan + pay for the unlimited mobile hotspot so it's our primary internet and we use it all the time. 2 days ago when we got home from work we had about 2 hours to kill before going to a pot luck so i wanted to surf the interwebz (specifically to watch the Youtube video about the Other Guys movie where Will Ferrell talks about Tuna's attacking a lion....). It worked slowly at first and then totally died.
So i called up 611 and wanted to report bad towers because we've been having a lot of storms lately and the lady said there were none and that i should go into the settings you just showed and see if it was on global. It was and she had me change it to the LTE option and BAM! it was fixed. Instantly.
I had already tried power cycling my phone and it did nothing so i think this fixed it. I know she was reading off a script on her screen but she said when the phone is on global mode it tries to reach too far to reach GSM towers as well as LTE and can mess up the data connection.
I have no idea if it's true but it makes sense to leave it on the LTE option since i am not currently traveling.
Just wanted to add my 2cp...
Parafly said:
This randomly popped up for me in Lowes yesterday. I was wondering whether it would cause additional charges so I didn't change anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would leave it the way it is. As soon as VZW updates their 4G to use the AWS spectrum we should all see better signal strength and what not.
andross77 said:
This is funny that you would post this because I just had the opposite experience. I am on an unlimited Verizon data plan + pay for the unlimited mobile hotspot so it's our primary internet and we use it all the time. 2 days ago when we got home from work we had about 2 hours to kill before going to a pot luck so i wanted to surf the interwebz (specifically to watch the Youtube video about the Other Guys movie where Will Ferrell talks about Tuna's attacking a lion....). It worked slowly at first and then totally died.
So i called up 611 and wanted to report bad towers because we've been having a lot of storms lately and the lady said there were none and that i should go into the settings you just showed and see if it was on global. It was and she had me change it to the LTE option and BAM! it was fixed. Instantly.
I had already tried power cycling my phone and it did nothing so i think this fixed it. I know she was reading off a script on her screen but she said when the phone is on global mode it tries to reach too far to reach GSM towers as well as LTE and can mess up the data connection.
I have no idea if it's true but it makes sense to leave it on the LTE option since i am not currently traveling.
Just wanted to add my 2cp...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason for this is because you were probably connected to a tower that was not part of Verizon's own network. Turning off Global means your phone only accepts connections to Verizon's towers, which probably connected you with a faster tower.
CCoR87 said:
I would leave it the way it is. As soon as VZW updates their 4G to use the AWS spectrum we should all see better signal strength and what not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya...except that won't even *begin* to happen until around the end of the year (October, if I'm not mistaken?), and only in select markets. It won't be in even a majority of LTE markets for another few years. AWS isn't even in its infancy yet.
gabrielpina4 said:
Look at the pic and sumone please explain this to me I googled it and all I found was that using global gives you better connection by using all antennas in the phone and just keep the roam off so switch to global and keep roaming disabled to not get over charges but is it worth it
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gabriel, what is that icon on the left of the wifi icon?
Thank you!
Kakamarsson said:
Gabriel, what is that icon on the left of the wifi icon?
Thank you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is the GPS icon.
niv3d said:
That is the GPS icon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But my GPS is off and the icon is still there...
How can i turn that icon off?
Boy, so much wrong information in this thread that my head is starting to hurt.
Let me clarify this for everyone, before everyone starts going, "zOMG Global Mode is the best!!11"
The "Global Mode" has been around for Samsung since the S1. Simply put, it's a way to turn off the INTERNATIONAL radios when you're not traveling. The phone turns off the global ready band radios and only uses LTE/CDMA when you're on your home network when you select the non-global mode. That is it. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not a magical tool to get better signal. It does NOTHING for your signal here in the US, much the same way clearing battery stats does NOTHING for your battery life.
I always keep it off because the firmware eventually scans the global (GSM) bands and well, however small or minute that might be, it eats battery.
Unless you're in South America, or Europe, you don't need the global mode on.
If you ever see the phone asking you about Global mode, is because your phone was out of service for a set amount of time. After that timer has elapsed, the settings apk will ask you if you want to turn the Global feature on (it's trying to be smart and thinking you're out of the country since you have no domestic CDMA/LTE signal) It happens to me all the time in my car port.
Hope this helps.
Kakamarsson said:
But my GPS is off and the icon is still there...
How can i turn that icon off?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its the e911 icon and it cant be turned off. you can however flash a mod if you are rooted with a recovery.
andross77 said:
This is funny that you would post this because I just had the opposite experience. I am on an unlimited Verizon data plan + pay for the unlimited mobile hotspot so it's our primary internet and we use it all the time. 2 days ago when we got home from work we had about 2 hours to kill before going to a pot luck so i wanted to surf the interwebz (specifically to watch the Youtube video about the Other Guys movie where Will Ferrell talks about Tuna's attacking a lion....). It worked slowly at first and then totally died.
So i called up 611 and wanted to report bad towers because we've been having a lot of storms lately and the lady said there were none and that i should go into the settings you just showed and see if it was on global. It was and she had me change it to the LTE option and BAM! it was fixed. Instantly.
I had already tried power cycling my phone and it did nothing so i think this fixed it. I know she was reading off a script on her screen but she said when the phone is on global mode it tries to reach too far to reach GSM towers as well as LTE and can mess up the data connection.
I have no idea if it's true but it makes sense to leave it on the LTE option since i am not currently traveling.
Just wanted to add my 2cp...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not sure why you pay to enable the mobile hotspot. If you are still on unlimited then get foxfi. It works on the S4 with no root required. It can be a hotspot for you without paying verizon anything additional.
wouldn't that drain the battery faster?