hi.
A few days ago I applied for a data plan.
Until then I was always using 2G network. Now I am using the 3G network while surfig or using the mobile internet. When I finish using it, I use 2G only and disable data.
Since then, I feel my battery is draining almost twice as fast as it was before. I am using the phone and internet exactly as much as I was using before, the only difference is that now I am using the data plan instead of the (very weak) WiFi signal. In battery menu, it appears "cell standby" takes only 4% of the battery life, but the real difference in battery life is very noticeable.
What could cause the difference? And are there any ways to improve battery life with 3G? (Hellybean 15/11 with newest kernel 1.9.5).
Thanks.
*edit* I have also checked, that if I leave the phone on standby with screen off on the 3G network with data on (but no apps that use data), battery level is decreased by roughly 10% every hour. If I use chrome for an hour using 3G connection and screen on half brightness, that would be 35% of battery decrease in an hour.
romitkin said:
hi.
A few days ago I applied for a data plan.
Until then I was always using 2G network. Now I am using the 3G network while surfig or using the mobile internet. When I finish using it, I use 2G only and disable data.
Since then, I feel my battery is draining almost twice as fast as it was before. I am using the phone and internet exactly as much as I was using before, the only difference is that now I am using the data plan instead of the (very weak) WiFi signal. In battery menu, it appears "cell standby" takes only 4% of the battery life, but the real difference in battery life is very noticeable.
What could cause the difference? And are there any ways to improve battery life with 3G? (Hellybean 15/11 with newest kernel 1.9.5).
Thanks.
*edit* I have also checked, that if I leave the phone on standby with screen off on the 3G network with data on (but no apps that use data), battery level is decreased by roughly 10% every hour. If I use chrome for an hour using 3G connection and screen on half brightness, that would be 35% of battery decrease in an hour.
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Try a different ROM? I remember on Hellybean I had really bad battery life. It drained quite fast, especially on browser. BTW, when you got 3G, did you change ROMs or no? Could you also post a battery stats screenshot? Also, data uses much more battery than WiFi. The part where you said it decreases by 10%, that kind of irks me. I would try a different ROM, such as PA 360 which is really good for battery.
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Has anyone managed to find a fix for the cell standby battery drain? As for the people not suffering from it, what rom and kernel are you using?
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HyperGalaxy with siyah kernel = the perfect combination....so fast with an abundance of free ram and no signal battery drain
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Thanks! I don't have the issue anymore with hypergalaxy!
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has become much better since i flashed XXALF2 baseband and Franco r2 kernel. Standby (mobile data on) drop was around 4-5% per hour before, now its around 2.5% per hour
Stock LF2 no problem .
jje
Cell standby drain cannot be confirmed by all people and is related to the 3G setup, antennas and location of your provider.
Here the network show a very bad case of hopping when switching to/from IDLE (fast dormancy) which drains the battery in no time.
I'm currently running Juicedefender Ultimate beta with AOSP helper which switches to 2G when the screen is off and no data is transferred. Only issue is that you'll loose connectivity twice (3G->2G and 2G->3G) for a very short time but other than that it seems to work fine and has solved my battery drain problem.
I've been used to switch back to 2G as soon as I don't need 3G/HSPA with my S1 as it's drain is even worse, so it's no big change for me
JJEgan said:
Stock LF2 no problem .
jje
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i conquer on this.
i do use now 2x battery saver, which does the same thing as the juicedefender, but even before that, my battery is very well managed. I would assume that the fact of cell standby being on the top of the list when you havent been using the phone for anything else is logical to be there. That IS what will be draining the battery. I would only see the problem on those handsets that this drain is not within acceptable limits, ie, whatever people have measured as normal drain for these circomstances.
I use juicedefender and with the latest update the battery drain is less than 2% an hour, im happy with that
Ive always found by the the biggest drain in standby being data always being on
That's not totally correct. Data is not what is actually draining your battery (at least it never was for me).
It's 3G not being in IDLE due to sending/receiving data, fast dormancy not being (properly) supported by the network or the network provider having a badly configured/balanced network.
If you switch to 2G, you'll find that your phone can run 2 days with data enabled if not heavily used.
Big exception seems to be Exchange's ActiveSync which is, when an account is configured (whether enabled or not) always top-of-the-list in BetterBatteryStats. But well... Exchange sucks anyway =)
I should have typed 3g data, this single act of letting the 3g connection be managed by juicedefender doubled my battery life
Yeh i have no idea for the technical reason but managing the 3g connection makes a big difference to me
hmm i am not aware of the actual network causing problems with the drain issue during 3g/2g signal. I only knew that when the signal is bad in general or you get no signal at all, then the phone is wasting too much energy trying to log on to a network itself.
i have the 3g swap on my 2x battery saver to rotate every 5min when the screen is off. Its the smallest amount of time you can apply. However i dont know if im the average phone user, as i see here lots of people doing a lot more things with their handsets during a day.
Not so sure about the 3G data thing but I'm only using the phone on wifi with data disabled and I still got the battery drain.
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Wifi is another issue, especially when you have the 5Ghz band enabled and your phone hops between both. Try checking if your Wifi's channel is crowded and configuring the router to another less crowded one.
Then force your phone to use either the 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz band depending on your setup; drain should've gone away.
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Wifi is another issue, especially when you have the 5Ghz band enabled and your phone hops between both. Try checking if your Wifi's channel is crowded and configuring the router to another less crowded one.
Then force your phone to use either the 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz band depending on your setup; drain should've gone away.
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Gonna try that out and will see how it goes
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Been noticing that my gs3 uses a lot of standby power. Some times up to 30-40% how can I prevent this? I am rooted and I run advance task manager
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kingofall00 said:
Been noticing that my gs3 uses a lot of standby power. Some times up to 30-40% how can I prevent this? I am rooted and I run advance task manager
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is your phone on standby a lot? the meter is the % of your used-up battery that has been used by that process. i.e. if your phone sits on standby for "30%" and the battery goes down by 10%, 30% of that battery decrease (3%) is from standby.
gentlyr from
based on how you use and how often you use the phone, it may be normal.
for example, i'm at 30% on standby but my phone has been on for 5.5 hours and i have 80% charge. most of my usage today was checking emails and reddit but very sparingly.
Are you in a plce where you have weak signal? When this happens, your radio/baseband struggles to find a stable connection or signal, thus sucking more juice out of your bettery and causing your phone to be on standby mode a lot more.
Flash my ROM - here, prob fixed!
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Are you in a plce where you have weak signal? When this happens, your radio/baseband struggles to find a stable connection or signal, thus sucking more juice out of your bettery and causing your phone to be on standby mode a lot more.
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This. With weak connection your phone will be using more battery to find a signal. Check your status to see what % of the time you are without signal.
I was down to 18% after 16 hours with 34% use on standby. I use advance task manager. I belive its custom rom time. I want jellybean. So I must wait.
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Recently i am observing that my phones most of the battery is used by process called Android system.
Normally this should be screen beacause most of the battery is consumed for backlighting etc.
Is this normal?
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I have sometimes the same.
I only used the screen for like 3h but phone is awake like 5 or 6 hours...
And when i loook at stats i see its its waking up. But i cant find any program.
Or what it is....
Odp: Keep awake process battery consumption. ...
Download some app like Ram booster and check out what is it that eats so many energy. It can be an app which is not mentioned separately in the battery usage info, so it is automatically "glued" to the Android OS process.
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Use an app that show's battery usage, and try to see what's hogging the battery.
'Smart RAM Booster' is a pretty good app as suggested by fussek. However, I find it useful in killing unnecessary tasks/processes. As far as using it to monitor your battery; I am not sure whether Smart RAM Booster is the best option. You could try 'Battery Monitor Widget' or another app like it.
I would also suggest you get the 'Deep Sleep Battery Saver' app. Usually apps try to periodically update/push data even when you aren't using the phone (which also drain battery). What 'Deep Sleep Battery Saver' does is put your phone into 'deep sleep' so apps can't drain battery while the phone is on standby. You can also set the phone to 'wake up' for a specific interval (i.e every 5 hours) and then go back to 'deep sleep.'
Hope this helps!
-Protomartyr
No success. ...
I installed battery stats plus and battert monitor widget...
Both shows maximum battery used by android os.
Normally overnight battery use is maximum 1 or 2% but last 3-4 days it is around 20%.Also my phone becomes hot for normal usage also.
In last 3-4 days i installed apps like flipboard, any do, bookmyshow only.
Do youthink any of these causing this problem? But in battery use section they hardly drain 2-3 % of the battery.
I haven't tried "deep sleep battery saver"
I will try it now.
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Hmm I don't really see anything out of the ordinary (then again I am no expert at these kinda things). Maybe someone else could give you some input based on your stats?
However, I noticed from your screenshots that you are connected to the Edge (2g) network. Edge is known to drain the battery a lot compared to 3g/4g networks. Do you have any 3g/4g networks in your area?
-Protomartyr
Yes i have 3g network in my area. ... but i was thinking that 3g takes more battery than 2g...
Because whenever i connect to 3g network the phone becomes hot.
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Yeah sorry I confused myself. Usually you get better battery life with 2g (but at the cost of speed). What I meant to say is that when your phone switches between 3g and 2g, this switching back and forth can cause quite a bit of battery drain.
Welcome,
I've just bought i9205. Great device, but I'm a bit worried of battery consumption. When I'm using 3g ( LTE/WCDM/GSM ( auto ) mode ), and have energy saver switched to on, device "eats" 1% battery per every 5 minutes !!! I'm not using LTE ( have no this mode in my mobile tarrif plan ).
I've rooted the toy, froze Samsung Push Serivce, get cassie's xtraliterom, switch energy saver off, and on Wifi at home the device "eats" 1% per 7-8 minutes. Haven't tested it on mobile data mode, yet.
Is that normal ?
Bear1974 said:
Welcome,
I've just bought i9205. Great device, but I'm a bit worried of battery consumption. When I'm using 3g ( LTE/WCDM/GSM ( auto ) mode ), and have energy saver switched to on, device "eats" 1% battery per every 5 minutes !!! I'm not using LTE ( have no this mode in my mobile tarrif plan ).
I've rooted the toy, froze Samsung Push Serivce, get cassie's xtraliterom, switch energy saver off, and on Wifi at home the device "eats" 1% per 7-8 minutes. Haven't tested it on mobile data mode, yet.
Is that normal ?
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No It's not normal. Try turning off 3g data to see if this improves. Something downloading in background is a one cause of battery drain. I can read on the browser and wifi with 6 hours screen time and have 35% battery left at the end of the day.
Browsing for the last twenty minutes on wifi and used 1% mobile data and gps are off. I'm no longer using stock rom but it wasn't much different when I was. On standby overnight with everything off mine loses about 1% an hour.
With everything off, in my case, cell standby constantly consumes 12% over and an 8-hour period.
I posted this in another thread too.
What worked for me:
1. WCDMA only - using this depends on whether 3G coverage is good where you're at
2. WiFi ON always - using this depends on whether you need background syncs and are often near WiFi
I use My Battery Drain Analyser to track my drain rate. Link Here
With those two options, my drain rate during sleep is 0.5%/h.
I realize that solution 1 is not for everyone, but try it anyway, but keep tabs on when you lose cell reception entirely to see if this solution is viable for you.
You can also have a look to this thread
I have had the Pixel 6 for a week now and I'm very disappointed. My biggest disappointment is by far the battery life. I can barely get through an 8 hour work day before it dies (Note: this is with zero WiFi use). After 8hrs I'm typically at 10-20% battery or dead. The mobile network standby is slaughtering my battery life. It uses a consistent 25-35% of it everyday. I also seem to have a lot of weird bugs.
-I get occasional system UI crashes
-randomly I'll lose signal where I always have signal and have to turn it off and back on or reboot
-auto rotate I have to frequently shake my phone for it to work
-camera quality seems terrible. My photos are almost always blurry. My OnePlus 7 Pro takes much better pics.
Update: The 8hrs is total battery life not SOT. My SOT is like 3-4hrs average sometimes worse. My phone use also stays in a 6ft area all day. So I'm not like in and out of service. I also make no calls during the day.
Update 2: I've had 5G disabled all day and I've had 3.5hrs SOT and have 45% battery left and it's the end of my work day. I'm happy with that number. Still having weird OS issues like system UI crashes, Spotify pausing randomly and it not working with the Google assistant. So I think I still need to do a factory reset unfortunately.
I am returning it also tomorrow.
I already did factory reset without any result.
Mobile network standby is killing the battery.
30% day and 60% overnight.
I tried everything without success.
Fingerprint Scanner also is terrible.
Bump.
I had big hopes for this phone.
Try clearing system cache.
Try a network reset.
Try safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps.
Try turning off any power management.
Use factory reset for; you did a major firmware update, for malware, damage to hidden users settings by a 3rd party app.
Otherwise the issues are likely to reoccur.
Try to find the root cause(s). Cloud apps can use a lot of power day and night. Trash apps like WhatsApp, FB, etc waste power and abuse privacy.
Crazygrouzin said:
I am returning it also tomorrow.
I already did factory reset without any result.
Mobile network standby is killing the battery.
30% day and 60% overnight.
I tried everything without success.
Fingerprint Scanner also is terrible.
Bump.
I had big hopes for this phone.
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Damn, what carrier did you buy it from? I'm also disappointed in the performance of the finger print scanner. I was expecting that though and it works if you hold it. So that's not like a deal breaker but all the reviews I watched before purchasing were saying great things about the battery life. Google even advertises it as a 24hr battery life. Which I don't expect but I need to at least get to when I go to bed without charging.
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Damn, what carrier did you buy it from? I'm also disappointed in the performance of the finger print scanner. I was expecting that though and it works if you hold it. So that's not like a deal breaker but all the reviews I watched before purchasing were saying great things about the battery life. Google even advertises it as a 24hr battery life. Which I don't expect but I need to at least get to when I go to bed without charging.
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From Media Markt.
I am using o2 Deutschland.
Tried different carrier also.
Tried esim and physical card also.
Tried every combo on network preferences.
Mobile standby mode is not dropping below 25%.
Crazygrouzin said:
From Media Markt.
I am using o2 Deutschland.
Tried different carrier also.
Tried esim and physical card also.
Tried every combo on network preferences.
Mobile standby mode is not dropping below 25%.
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Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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I installed the update.
I am using 4g.
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Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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I'm using 5G and will try doing that next. I don't really need the 5G speeds but I like seeing the icon lol.
Just got another system UI crash
Disabling 5G seems to have actually made my battery life worse. My phone is at 12% after only 8hrs of use..... Usually it's at like 20% after 8hrs.
So on WiFi my battery is amazing. In the past 3hrs with high brightness and over and hour of video and the rest on apps it's only gone down 6% So if the network standby issue can be fixed my battery life would be great.
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So on WiFi my battery is amazing. In the past 3hrs with high brightness and over and hour of video and the rest on apps it's only gone down 6% So if the network standby issue can be fixed my battery life would be great.
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On safe boot.
Well this is not causing other app.
Hi guys! Having great battery life, Yesterday did 5.15hrs with still 33% normal usage wifi and 4g.
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Disabling 5G seems to have actually made my battery life worse. My phone is at 12% after only 8hrs of use..... Usually it's at like 20% after 8hrs.
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Is it a joke ? Have 8hr SOT and crying ?!
Don't read too much into the two-hour "battery usage" percentages. They don't have any relationship to how much total energy was used - they only show the relationship to other tasks running during that two hour period.
For example, we can assume that the "Mobile Network Standby" power usage is pretty consistent if you remain in the same physical location and make the same amount of cell phone calls/texts. However the bi-hourly use % will be wildly different depending on how the phone was being used. For example, you are showing 66% Mobile Network Standby when the phone is sitting idle and not being used. That is to be expected because the phone was literally not used at all so there are very few tasks using energy during that period of time. If you compare another time when the phone was being used, the Mobile Network Standby might only account for 22% of battery use during a 2 hour period. The actual energy used for Mobile Network Standby was the same in both cases, but the % changes depending on what other tasks were using energy. It doesn't mean that it used three times the energy when it shows 66% vs when it shows 22%.
You can see this same type of battery usage detail for the last 24 hours by clicking the drop down menu "System usage for past 24 hours" on the initial battery usage screen. This will show a more accurate accounting of how much actual power each app and system process used in the last 24 hours. Unfortunately it is only for 24 hours and not since the last full charge, so it can still be a skewed number because it still doesn't show how much battery power was used, but only what % of total battery use each item accounted for. In other words, you could charge and totally drain the phone 3 times in a day, and the percentages would still look relatively the same vs someone that didn't charge at all during the day.
I suspect you will see your Mobile Network Standby number run about 20-30% when you look at this number.
Plus, your first set of battery use images show the phone using about 55% during an 8 hour period. The second set of images show the phone using about 75% over a 12 hour period. Of course we don't really know what type of use you really had during those times, but that isn't terrible. That shows the phone should last about 16 hours based on your usage.
You are also showing about a 10% decrease in battery life when the phone is setting idle for 8 hours. Honestly this is about normal battery life and you shouldn't complain about it. These phone are going to use a little more than 1% total battery power per hour when they are sitting idle and on cellular (not wifi only). If you are seeing 2-3% battery use per hour while idle, then you should be more concerned.
I have 11h40 SOT with the Pixel 6 and it is more than enough for me.
I loose 8.2%/h with the screen on and 2.7% with the screen off
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Plus, your first set of battery use images show the phone using about 55% during an 8 hour period. The second set of images show the phone using about 75% over a 12 hour period. Of course we don't really know what type of use you really had during those times, but that isn't terrible. That shows the phone should last about 16 hours based on your usage.
You are also showing about a 10% decrease in battery life when the phone is setting idle for 8 hours. Honestly this is about normal battery life and you shouldn't complain about it. These phone are going to use a little more than 1% total battery power per hour when they are sitting idle and on cellular (not wifi only). If you are seeing 2-3% battery use per hour while idle, then you should be more concerned.
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This is from 93%.
I am taking in best case 4 hours sot.
All the other battery is drained by mobile standby.
I am loosing sometimes 4% with screen of and wifi turned on, when my old redmi note 10 pro loses 0%
I guess i get faulty phone.
But i am done with with pixels.