will we have an idea when the update will be rolled out so we can delete it and not have it pushed to our phones? not sure how that works since my bolt had a custom rom from day 1. someone care to give me the skinny on OTA updates and how they affect us without custom roms and having root? thanks in advance.
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will we have an idea when the update will be rolled out so we can delete it and not have it pushed to our phones? not sure how that works since my bolt had a custom rom from day 1. someone care to give me the skinny on OTA updates and how they affect us without custom roms and having root? thanks in advance.
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If you take an OTA update you will lose root. However, you should be able to achieve it again once the devs cook up their magic. So far no one has a made an ota blocker mod, but it will come. As soon as this bad boy gets unlocked we will be golden, custom romming etc.:highfive:
Spectredroid said:
If you take an OTA update you will lose root. However, you should be able to achieve it again once the devs cook up their magic. So far no one has a made an ota blocker mod, but it will come. As soon as this bad boy gets unlocked we will be golden, custom romming etc.:highfive:
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can they auto push it though? or will i have the choice?
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can they auto push it though? or will i have the choice?
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You will have a choice so you can choose to ignore. The bad thing it will remind you a lot.
My Note 2 killed your phone.
Spectredroid said:
You will have a choice so you can choose to ignore. The bad thing it will remind you a lot.
My Note 2 killed your phone.
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well hopefully that will be solved before it actually happens.
Lol oh snap ota already I should of backed up all that bloat I erased. .. oh well something will get done by then
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No no no. This was hypothetical. I have no idea when it is. Lol
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Freeze SDM 1.0 with a app like Titanium and you wont have to worry about ota updates installing.
Learn something everyday Thanks for that tip
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and i'm on a custom rom based on ji6...i know it can't be 2.2 update. what can it be? >?? i didn't click on postpone, i'm just leaving it at the notification bar right now..i read here on the forums that it could be an ota update back to JFD/some kind of glitch in t-mobile's roll out OTA from ji6.
It's probably JFD trying to claw it's way back from the grave.. ignore it because it's obviously a downgrade in most ways possible..
it mite be gingerbread.. do it!!!
adrianr514 said:
it mite be gingerbread.. do it!!!
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don't you mean honeycomb? We already have gingerbread.
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don't you mean honeycomb? We already have gingerbread.
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Honeycomb???
i thought the H installment was gonna be Hostess,, now thats the stuff.. lol
Dont do the update. It will break your swype if you do it. No actual gains in this minor update from tmo.
Yeah I got an update even though I'm on Fusion 1.2 with Team Whiskey Core Kernal. I though I couldn't get updates. I postponed it and it said my battery was to low for me to get the update. Can anyone actually check what this update truely is?
*edit* I uninstalled the APK that does the OTA updates. In Titanium uninstall it reboot then delete APK in apparently manager. Then you don't have to worry about getting OTAs. Until Froyo comes out then I would install stock ROM and update if you want to.
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Thanks for the help. Do u happen to have the exact name of.the.apk file? Ill use Titanium to freeze the apk.
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Yeah I got an update even though I'm on Fusion 1.2 with Team Whiskey Core Kernal. I though I couldn't get updates. I postponed it and it said my battery was to low for me to get the update. Can anyone actually check what this update truely is?
*edit* I uninstalled the APK that does the OTA updates. In Titanium uninstall it reboot then delete APK in apparently manager. Then you don't have to worry about getting OTAs. Until Froyo comes out then I would install stock ROM and update if you want to.
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It is 2.2 Froyo update.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/36629/android-froyo-samsung-galaxy-s
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don't you mean honeycomb? We already have gingerbread.
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no, I think it's ios 4.2
It was an accidental update and it messes stuff up. This is at least the third thread about it
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Thanks for the help. Do u happen to have the exact name of.the.apk file? Ill use Titanium to freeze the apk.
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That's a good idea! I'd love to know what apk handles OTA updates. I saw on tmo forums that this update reverts back to JFD and screws with swype.
Almost positive it's device management.
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Thanks for the help guys! I froze the "device management" apk. Via titanium backup and it worked like a charm! (u have to have the phone in debugging mode to make it work)
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Almost positive it's device management.
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Does anyone know what the OTA does/changes? I would hate to apply it for no significant reason and cost myself a chance at root in the future.
Not until Leo, tmartin, toast, or haus says so. They are working on root
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So in other wordss, don't apply it??
HTC EVO = my best friend
Do not apply it unless you want to wait for root.
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Do not apply it unless you want to wait for root.
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You and anybody else saying that is just as useful as me saying if you take the OTA, you wont have to wait.
At this point everything looks like its just pure speculation, nobody knows for sure.
When would you ever apply an OTA~ I don't recall a situation where it was a good idea LOL
Can't watch the Green Hornet until I update the software. No thanks.
I didn't update mine yet and it played green hornet just fine. It's a shame they didn't put a better movie on here it actually looks pretty darn good. It's the most impressive 3d content I've seen so far on the 3vo
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Where did you get your phone, Best Buy?
I applied the update and now my phone shortcut is missing from the lockscreen and the app drawer. I searched online and apparently it's a common issue and HTC is working on yet another update to fix it. Apparently the first OTA update allowed you to connect to the phone via ADB.... so it looks as if they MAY be in the process of unlocking the bootloader for us.
Either way, there are a few small bugs to work out.
I wouldnt apply the OTA.. i know that its not confirmed it will do anything to affect root. However my understanding is the devs working on root didnt do it and im not going to either. Id like my phone to be as similar to the ones they are working on as possible just in case it matters.
On top of that i dont see any problems from not installing the OTA.
Too funny. You guys say you don't trust the OTA but you trust the software that came on the phone to begin with? Anyhow, HTC put out an update for a reason- it fixes things that are broken. If you want a partially functioning and buggy device, do not apply the update. If we had root I could see why people would be so concerned about losing it. However, we do not have root and who knows when we will. So, if until then you want a phone that works properly, apply the update which probably isn't going to change a whole lot in regards to your ability to root.
So if I did apply the update I'm f'ed??
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OTA - KIA my 3VO
The OTA has screwed up my phone. It is stuck in a boot loop; I was able to go to the bootloader but the factory reset did not fix it. I am headed to the store to swap out my brand new phone.
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So if I did apply the update I'm f'ed??
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Nope. Its all speculation at this point.
mine worked fine did you give it some time?
I'd hold off on updating for the simple reason HTC is trying to fix their last OTA lol
My phone arrives Monday but I'll wait unless theres a bug that is really bothering me, otherwise I can hold off. If you want to update for the sake of updating then don't whine if it prevents you from rooting later.
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Nope. Its all speculation at this point.
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I sure hope that i didn't just ruin my chances of getting root!
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S_rob7488 said:
I sure hope that i didn't just ruin my chances of getting root!
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not likely, they said they are giving us root .. i kinda believe them since i doubt they want another backlash like they had
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Too funny. You guys say you don't trust the OTA but you trust the software that came on the phone to begin with? Anyhow, HTC put out an update for a reason- it fixes things that are broken. If you want a partially functioning and buggy device, do not apply the update. If we had root I could see why people would be so concerned about losing it. However, we do not have root and who knows when we will. So, if until then you want a phone that works properly, apply the update which probably isn't going to change a whole lot in regards to your ability to root.
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But it could and often does patch up holes that COULD be used to rout root...
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Should I take the OTA??
What are some differences if any you noticed after taking it if you did?
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Should I take the OTA??
What are some differences if any you noticed after taking it if you did?
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I haven't really noticed anything, however the app update was supposed to fix the constant syncing issue with the "Watch" application. Could help you on battery a bit. I don't think its anything real big.
But, the dev's have recommended not taking the OTA.
I haven't taken it yet everything is smooth for me so far. Heard bad things about taking the OTA that has come out waiting on a newer one.
OTA = Not good and i have had no problems thus far. Hold off because root is so worth it!
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i took it so i could watch 3d videos and green hornet..i have not notice any problems.
The OTA had its own bit of issues look it up on the google. It did something funky to the icons and few other issues.
Taking it wont screw up the chance to get root tho just have to wait on HTC to unlocck the phone.
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Is there a way to get this update off my 3vo I'm afraid its gonna eventually dl on its own and take the update
There is going to be another OTA update before root is found. Seriously who really wants to run an old busted OEM RUU that's rooted?
Me personally, I want the latest and greatest OTA, Rooted, and customized. I'll wait for that. In the meantime. Give me all the OTA you have. Updates are good! Omnomnomom!
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There is going to be another OTA update before root is found. Seriously who really wants to run an old busted OEM RUU that's rooted?
Me personally, I want the latest and greatest OTA, Rooted, and customized. I'll wait for that. In the meantime. Give me all the OTA you have. Updates are good! Omnomnomom!
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Umm... What?
I did the OTA and I still can't watch the green hornet. It says that there are no videos found. Help?
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I don't think it is an issue do to the fact that we are still getting the root, therefore in my opinion they were aware of it and the fix was needed to allow 3D Watch to work which means there's still was a bug or two possibly we will get the the root still over this, shouldn't have any effect against the rooted OTA coming
You guys sure are putting a lot of faith in HTC.....No updates for me until I see one that includes the S-Off bootloader. If your phone's truly not performing to your expectations have at it, but if you really want root at the earliest possible time and your phone's working ok without the OTA's......DON'T TAKE THEM. Remember, you can update at anytime, but you can't always revert back to what you had.
ahess0815 said:
I did the OTA and I still can't watch the green hornet. It says that there are no videos found. Help?
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You need to format your SD and go reload the stock SD content from the devs section
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I had the update installed on both mine and my wife's 3VO and, aside from the phone icon on the lock screen, which was remedied with a hard reset, I haven't had one single problem.
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Well my 3vo is on the nightstand I ain't doin anything til I know root is here. Even thought htcs emails say its comin I'm just gonna bide my time
Not takin the OTA till we get root. Don't wanna be left behind. Patients ppl.
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ahess0815 said:
I did the OTA and I still can't watch the green hornet. It says that there are no videos found. Help?
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Did you switch out the sdcards, its on the one that came with it or register for watch.
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I don't think it is an issue do to the fact that we are still getting the root, therefore in my opinion they were aware of it and the fix was needed to allow 3D Watch to work which means there's still was a bug or two possibly we will get the the root still over this, shouldn't have any effect against the rooted OTA coming
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The ota worked fine for me
The OTAs are fine. "When" HTC puts out the update for the s-off it will be done via the OTA so you'll have to do it then anyways. The whole "I don't want to update because I won't be able to root it" bull**** is just ignorance. In order to get the root you'll have to update, so might as well do it now and get the bug fixes done.
BTW, running all OTAs and my phone runs like a champs with 0 issues.
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The OTAs are fine. "When" HTC puts out the update for the s-off it will be done via the OTA so you'll have to do it then anyways. The whole "I don't want to update because I won't be able to root it" bull**** is just ignorance. In order to get the root you'll have to update, so might as well do it now and get the bug fixes done.
BTW, running all OTAs and my phone runs like a champs with 0 issues.
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You're probably right but at the same time, you could be wrong. If someone wants s-off ASAP then it's safest to not do the OTA just to make sure they're running the same version the Devs are trying to crack. Straying from their targeted version is a risk because we don't know what bug they're exploiting. If you're willing to wait for HTC's s-off then sure, OTA away.
I still have not accepted any ota's. Should I update? And will I still be able to temp root? Reason I'm wondering to update is because when i talk to other people they have trouble hearing me and they say I sound muffled, and was wondering if i update it will fix that issue. Thanks in advance.
mrjaydee82 said:
I still have not accepted any ota's. Should I update? And will I still be able to temp root? Reason I'm wondering to update is because when i talk to other people they have trouble hearing me and they say I sound muffled, and was wondering if i update it will fix that issue. Thanks in advance.
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I'm not sure about that specific issue, but the OTA has done nothing but help I believe. It significantly boosted my battery life and doesn't close any root holes so nothing negative to worry about.
Same here. I still have root and various fixes were made with the update. But most devs still say not to update. But since HTC will be unlocking the boot loader I said what the hell and just did the updates.
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All of the developers reccomend not accepting the OTA's. However it's your phone, so do as you need too. Just keep in mind that once you update you cannot revert back.
Well, it could complicate attaining root so I simply will not accept an OTA...but with an unlocked bootloader once custom roms come out I won't give a crap about a stock rooted rom...so...given the great things I've heard about these updates I would like to accept them...but I have years of conditioning telling me not to. So I won't. I recommend nobody else does either, but, as previously mentioned--It is your phone.
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Well, it could complicate attaining root so I simply will not accept an OTA...but with an unlocked bootloader once custom roms come out I won't give a crap about a stock rooted rom...so...given the great things I've heard about these updates I would like to accept them...but I have years of conditioning telling me not to. So I won't. I recommend nobody else does either, but, as previously mentioned--It is your phone.
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Same boat.......Must....fight.....urge.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Same boat.......Must....fight.....urge.
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Tell me about it!!!!
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I just took them. and I'm hoping it doesn't kill my ability to unlock if TeamWIN finds a way.
but I was trying to fit a wakelock issue that was killing my battery.
long story short. update didn't work either, it was something to do with battery indicator widgets and my wifi policy set to Never.
*Shrug*
I took them but I'm not taking anymore.
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I took them but I'm not taking anymore.
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yeah, sure, "I can quit whenever I want"...
daneurysm said:
yeah, sure, "I can quit whenever I want"...
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Haha
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So this morning I start looking at my S4 and each time I wake the device up the OTA update pops up EVERY time.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Quite annoying.
Looks like I'll be rooting my phone today.
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Not me. I took the OTS and used VooDoo to retain root. you'll need to root and freeze SDM.
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Yeah I have a mac for my main computer. I'm gonna have to dig out the old Dell to root this thing.
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My S4 is also rooted and I'm getting reminders to update via the OTA update like every 30 seconds. Do I need to unroot before I install the update? If so how do I do this? I'm running the stock ROM. I just rooted to do backups and to have more Tasker options. Thanks!
jmed999 said:
My S4 is also rooted and I'm getting reminders to update via the OTA update like every 30 seconds. Do I need to unroot before I install the update? If so how do I do this? I'm running the stock ROM. I just rooted to do backups and to have more Tasker options. Thanks!
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If you want to retain root do not update to the new OTA. Find the OTA blocker hack or install a rom with it built in.
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jkbane said:
If you want to retain root do not update to the new OTA. Find the OTA blocker hack or install a rom with it built in.
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Thanks for the reply! I would like to unroot and do the OTA update. Do you have a link on how to do this?
jmed999 said:
Thanks for the reply! I would like to unroot and do the OTA update. Do you have a link on how to do this?
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I'll look it up and get back to you in a min. But something else to think about us give the rom developers some time and they should the roms updated to the new OTA
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Are you sure? You will not be able to root anymore.
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jmed999 said:
Thanks for the reply! I would like to unroot and do the OTA update. Do you have a link on how to do this?
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Here is a good source to follow for unrooting, unbricking and returning to stock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxNPHKKpvtQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If you want to root it again you will have to wait for the new OTA to be rooted.
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Addiso said:
Are you sure? You will not be able to root anymore.
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At this time, if you take the new OTA, you will not be able to root again or unlock the bootloader. A few have reported that they were able to maintain root with voodoo but the custom revovery is lost forever at this time. There is a nice bounty growing for an unlock so hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock this thing.
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At this time, if you take the new OTA, you will not be able to root again or unlock the bootloader. A few have reported that they were able to maintain root with voodoo but the custom revovery is lost forever at this time. There is a nice bounty growing for an unlock so hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock this thing.
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What he said. If you made those backups with a custom recovery you won't be able to use them until the devs figure out another work around. This might take some time... That is if ever. If you're talking about titanium backup than just root should do. But right now if you ever loose root or need to Odin back because of something you might loose root for good.... Something to think about
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Hope this works
For those of us who have root and want to keep it, it looks like VZN is making it a pain in the sitting spot.....
The notification is persistent and only allows me to defer it until later today, so I am scrambling to find a way. I installed OTA Rootkeeper (aka Voodoo) and it includes the notification that that it is "Useless with Samsung phones updated via KIES or ODIN...." or "....any device flashing the entire system partition.."
I have made a "protected su copy" using Voodoo, and taken all backups with Titanium. I am not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point.
I would like to stop the update from happening, but have not seen a definite way to do that.
There is a Samsung Galaxy S 3 OTA blocker, but I doubt it will work for the S 4.
If anyone knows how to stop this pain in #$$ update, I would love to try it.
Unicorn512 said:
For those of us who have root and want to keep it, it looks like VZN is making it a pain in the sitting spot.....
The notification is persistent and only allows me to defer it until later today, so I am scrambling to find a way. I installed OTA Rootkeeper (aka Voodoo) and it includes the notification that that it is "Useless with Samsung phones updated via KIES or ODIN...." or "....any device flashing the entire system partition.."
I have made a "protected su copy" using Voodoo, and taken all backups with Titanium. I am not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point.
I would like to stop the update from happening, but have not seen a definite way to do that.
There is a Samsung Galaxy S 3 OTA blocker, but I doubt it will work for the S 4.
If anyone knows how to stop this pain in #$$ update, I would love to try it.
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Using titanium just freeze sdm 1.0 and your update notifications should stop.
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Using titanium just freeze sdm 1.0 and your update notifications should stop.
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This removed the notification instantly. Thanks!
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Ryno77 said:
Using titanium just freeze sdm 1.0 and your update notifications should stop.
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This is what I did as well. Works perfectly. No more update alert.
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This is what I did as well. Works perfectly. No more update alert.
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I have titanium but I don't know how to do this. Can anyone help? Thanks!
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I have titanium but I don't know how to do this. Can anyone help? Thanks!
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1)open tibu
2)press the backup/restore tab(middle one)
3)Scroll down and press sdm 1.0
4) when the popup ui apears select "freeze"
5)Done!
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1)open tibu
2)press the backup/restore tab(middle one)
3)Scroll down and press sdm 1.0
4) when the popup ui apears select "freeze"
5)Done!
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Thanks! It worked! Now what?
How do we get the updated stuff? My phone is rooted but no custom ROM. I had a custom rom on a previous phone and it seemed like it always needed maintenance and I'm not willing to spend that kind of time with this phone. Seemed like something was always going wrong. Can I keep root but also get the updates as they roll out for my S4? Sounds like my only option is to unroot and update.
Thoughts?
Thanks again!