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Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
To show you what I mean, I just restarted the phone and killed everything except:
WaveSecure Beta
com.google.android.apps.mapssomething that goes off the screen) - can't kill this
HTC Sense
Touch Input
com.htc.provider
Go back to it 10 minutes later and I also have the following open:
Settings
vizBattery
Wi-Fi Status
Google Mail
Thats without me touching it at all.... if I had also used the Twitter app, Facebook, messaging etc then they would all still be open, the browser and music player would probably be there too.
It's normal fo it to start some apps on its own, for example peep (htc's twitter program) the music player (only if you have a widget on one of the homescreens)
same goes for calander etc etc google mail is push so it has to be opened to recieve messaged realtime.
Things like batterystatus thingy's often drain your battery and sometimes slow down your device I suggest removing that.
Also I don't know about wifi status but can imagine that draining battery to since
I don't think that will be running without your wifi being on. When continuosly searching for networks your device also will slow down, and drain the battery
My english isn't perfect so I hope you understand what I'm saying.
edit: do you use the official t-mobile rom or a custom? Don't know if htc released the last update for t-mob devices. That update really improved almost everything
so if you don't have that it's ''normal'' for the device to lag.
Some apps register themselves to start automatically. Obviously Gmail needs to run if you're syncing a Gmail account.
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
However, for the most part, it doesn't really matter since many of the apps that appear to be "running" will not be consuming any CPU time (and by extension battery life) unless they are designed to run in the background.
In addition, as Stafflover has already said, I'd also suggest you try removing vizBattery - whilst I've no specific experience with this app, I've heard that many battery status widgets drain the battery significantly.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
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AutoStarts does the same job, also paid. using it for weeks, works great.
programs starting up
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
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Hey Pal! I had the same problem then I got into a bit of app development and understood. Some service need to be "broadcasting" and some other to be "listening". Best you can do is sometimes tell them how often to "wake up and check". But if you think about it, a program MUST be checking on a few things, at least sometimes, to give you the "android experience". Also, no matter how much you care about that number you see in the "free ram" widget (assunming you use taskiller with the widget), it is not very important until it REALLY does slow your phone down. Some apps are worse than others at clogging up or draining your battery: try them, weigh how useful they really are for you and then decide what to keep (running) Ciao!
Hey,
I've installed (several times actually) VillainROM 6.1 today with full wipes of everything before hands and all. Great job and thank you for putting so much effort in it! I do have few small issues however. And would appreaciate if somebody would knew and shared a workaround or fix. ^__^
1. The ROM is quite sluggish. It's not slow per se but it's not snappy either. I suppose it's due to the problem of it being a memory hog. I mean I use Task Control to kill all the unnecessary apps during regulas usage and use to use a widget for it as well. In stock 1.5 (don't get me wrong, I do not wanna go back by no means) when using many apps my memory went down to about 55-65MBs and on a regular usage it stayed around 80-90MBs of free memory. In VR6.1 when I use it heavily memory goes down to 10-30MB and on a regular usage it floats in the vicinity of 40-50MBs tops. When I kill all the apps however I get anything between 80 and 90MBs of free memory. For about two minutes, cause even if I don't do anything it the device restarts all the services and is back at 40-50 in no time. Is there a way to deal with that or shall I just learn to live with it?
2. There's many apps that I don't and won't use and would like to remove those but when I do so through adb shell I start getting Force quites on GoogleApps and can't use Market at all. I wanna get rid of Adobe Reader, Footprints, Friend Stream, Java, News and Weather, PDF Viewer, Quick Office, Stocks, Voice Dialer, Voice Search and Weather, so if anyone knows which ones are safe to remove without compromising systems stability, I'd appreciate all the help.
3. I've also followed your guide of partitioning SD card for apps2SD that was supposed to work out-of-the-box when partitions are done right. At the moment they don't work at all as my space have rapidyly gone dow in a moile when I wasa installing them. How can I make sure that they work. I don't mean checkSD here I'm after a list of adb sjell commands to have it working or any other way really?
4. And last but not least... I'm not even sure if it's a problem I'm experiencing or is it something that is not supported but I've downloaded Overclock widget and it's not working as if it was not supported by kernel. I've used it on other ROM and it was fine so I don't know if it requires any tweaks or is it just not usablle in VR6.1?
I did not write all that to point out problems with the ROM or to say that I hate it - I like it and that's why I'm not switching to another one but seeking help in improving my experience with VR6.1. ^__^ Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
jump over to villainrom.co.uk
they have these known issues reported and have fixes to most. Plus 6.2.0 is out so worth upgrading to that!
kad3t said:
Hey,
I've installed (several times actually) VillainROM 6.1 today with full wipes of everything before hands and all. Great job and thank you for putting so much effort in it! I do have few small issues however. And would appreaciate if somebody would knew and shared a workaround or fix. ^__^
1. The ROM is quite sluggish. It's not slow per se but it's not snappy either. I suppose it's due to the problem of it being a memory hog. I mean I use Task Control to kill all the unnecessary apps during regulas usage and use to use a widget for it as well. In stock 1.5 (don't get me wrong, I do not wanna go back by no means) when using many apps my memory went down to about 55-65MBs and on a regular usage it stayed around 80-90MBs of free memory. In VR6.1 when I use it heavily memory goes down to 10-30MB and on a regular usage it floats in the vicinity of 40-50MBs tops. When I kill all the apps however I get anything between 80 and 90MBs of free memory. For about two minutes, cause even if I don't do anything it the device restarts all the services and is back at 40-50 in no time. Is there a way to deal with that or shall I just learn to live with it?
2. There's many apps that I don't and won't use and would like to remove those but when I do so through adb shell I start getting Force quites on GoogleApps and can't use Market at all. I wanna get rid of Adobe Reader, Footprints, Friend Stream, Java, News and Weather, PDF Viewer, Quick Office, Stocks, Voice Dialer, Voice Search and Weather, so if anyone knows which ones are safe to remove without compromising systems stability, I'd appreciate all the help.
3. I've also followed your guide of partitioning SD card for apps2SD that was supposed to work out-of-the-box when partitions are done right. At the moment they don't work at all as my space have rapidyly gone dow in a moile when I wasa installing them. How can I make sure that they work. I don't mean checkSD here I'm after a list of adb sjell commands to have it working or any other way really?
4. And last but not least... I'm not even sure if it's a problem I'm experiencing or is it something that is not supported but I've downloaded Overclock widget and it's not working as if it was not supported by kernel. I've used it on other ROM and it was fine so I don't know if it requires any tweaks or is it just not usablle in VR6.1?
I did not write all that to point out problems with the ROM or to say that I hate it - I like it and that's why I'm not switching to another one but seeking help in improving my experience with VR6.1. ^__^ Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
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As said above, if you pop over to villainrom.co.uk, we can get you sorted out. 6.2 is out with fixes. As for 3, there is a great guide under "Guides" that will get A2SD checked and fixed.
Hi,
I have an issue with the way 2.1 roms handle background processes. Using Cronos 1.4.1 at the moment but the issue is the same in every 2.1 rom I've tried. The issue is not there in 1.5 roms.
In the car I like to run Spotify and CoPilot at the same with Spotify in the background over A2DP. When I do this the music from Spotify starts breaking up and becomes unlistenable. I can fix this by turning off the screen but it starts again when the screen is turned back on. CoPilot isn't a huge amount of good without a screen so this is a pretty bad workaround. I wouldn't complain and just chalk it up to underpowered hardware but I never had this problem with the 1.5 roms.
I've tried overclocking but that doesnt help at all. At a guess I would say that the scheduler is effectively choking Spotify when it's got a another app in the foreground (it isn't just CoPilot that deprives Spotify but most programs that have constantly running processes i.e. games). Web browsing only breaks up the music during page loads.
Is there a way of telling the scheduler to give Spotify a greater or equal priority to foreground apps? Is this something that BFS will solve (or make worse). Is it possible the official kernel will make a difference?
Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Phil
PS: Apologies if this belongs in the general forum but I thought this is more of a development issue.
You can always try setting a `nice`/renice constant.
I have exactly the same issue with spotify, it seems to have very low priority, I don't know if this is a problem with the spotify app or the way in which android 2.1 deals with it but it does seem to be throttled to the point of stopping when you try and do anything else with your phone while running it.
It didn't appear to be an issue on any of the 1.5 roms and seems to be a lot worse on a Sense 2.1 rom (I don't know if that is because there are a lot more things running in the background)
I used a the "top" command within adb shell and could see that other process, some htc and some standard android were jumping up the cpu usage way higher than spotify and this seemed to cause the music to break up.
I really hope that if the official 2.1 version is released, whatever is causing the issue (sense, android or the spotify app) is fixed!
EDIT: for some reason, trying to load up web pages makes it stutter like crazy!
Hi,
adwinp: you clearly know more than I do. How would I go about setting that?
DarthOps: I'm glad that I'm not the only one that finds this frustrating. I'll check to see if the Music app behaves the same way or if it's just Spotify. If it's just Spotify then maybe it's worth raising a bug report with them. Have you tried it recently in a 1.5 rom? Wondering if the later versions of Spotify still behave fine in 1.5.
Cheers,
Phil
Hey.
I have the same issue with all 2.1 roms. I'm currently using cronos 1.4.1 and it's a bit better than with other roms.
I guess we'll have to wait for the official eclair release before raising a bug report
With 1.5 there's no problem.
I'm using app2sd, are you guys too ?
Yup, but I am pretty sure I've had the same issue using non app2sd roms. I'm trying that scheduler hack somebody put up on the forum, will post my results in a sec.
Update 1:
All the tests were done with Spotify over headphones and not A2DP. Going to test that on my way home in the car.
Spotify and Torque (OBD app that is constantly running and uses BT), saw a possible improvement in that it took a good half a minute before Spotify started breaking up but then it was as bad as before.
Spotify and CoPilot are playing nicely together in the office but the real issue is when the map updates (i.e. moving). Will test on my way home.
Spotify and web browsing: loaded bbc.co.uk and Spotify didn't stutter once.
Spotify and Frozen Bubble: No stutter at all during playing.
This could actually be a workable solution and is promising that maybe BFS based roms will work.
Could you give us some informations about how to do this hack ?
herman3101 said:
Hi,
adwinp: you clearly know more than I do. How would I go about setting that?
DarthOps: I'm glad that I'm not the only one that finds this frustrating. I'll check to see if the Music app behaves the same way or if it's just Spotify. If it's just Spotify then maybe it's worth raising a bug report with them. Have you tried it recently in a 1.5 rom? Wondering if the later versions of Spotify still behave fine in 1.5.
Cheers,
Phil
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You have to edit your initrd (init.rc) and rebuild your boot.img
You have to find out the resource # of the process choking the system and reduce its nice, and upp the one being slow, for example.
The arguments of setrlimit: resource current max
Sorry, should have said. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689829 has all the details.
Turn usb debugging on and open an adb shell to type in the commands from the post above or alternatively use the gscript method (didn't work for me on Cronos 1.4.1, the SU request FC on me).
adwinp: Wow, think that might well be beyond my capabilities. Is there any way to edit that in adb? Also it's not one program being "nasty" but rather Spotify being too "nice" .
Ok thanks a lot, I'm gonna give it a try
I find that I tend to get stutters when the phone changes between 2G and 3G connections too, I remember some Droid users reporting the same problem
DarthOps said:
I find that I tend to get stutters when the phone changes between 2G and 3G connections too, I remember some Droid users reporting the same problem
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Change your band to WCDMA only:
open dialer, and:
*#*#4636#*#*
Be sure you have good 3G coverage in your region first!
Unfortunately the scheduler hack doesn't fix this for me. Tried it in the car going home and still got lots of stutter when running CoPilot. Possibly a bit better than before. Tried with and without A2DP and it made no difference. Back to the drawing board I guess.
herman3101 said:
Unfortunately the scheduler hack doesn't fix this for me. Tried it in the car going home and still got lots of stutter when running CoPilot. Possibly a bit better than before. Tried with and without A2DP and it made no difference. Back to the drawing board I guess.
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Are you going to raise a bug with Spotify?
Moved as not ROM Dev.
Just tried with the official release, it's worse than with cronos droid.
Back to cronos...
I have gone through countless battery reconditions, following various methods, very tediously, various roms (nero, bionix, trigger, etc.) trying to get acceptable battery life. After a lot of detective work I finally pinned down the problem to the 'mediaserver' process within the system processes. It runs CONSTANTLY and drains the batter within half a day from a full charge. This problem has been documented on google code: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6765
The process cannot be killed via any task manager as it seems to be a sub-process. So I finally mustered the courage to move the file from its directory into the parent directory to see if that would do the trick and restarted.
Now I'm stuck on the boot screen.
Can someone please help find a solution for this issue? I think I can recover from the boot screen issue but I know I will just encounter the same issue again and again.
I am currently on trigger 2.6.1.
Help?
I should also ask if it is possible to even ODIN back to stock from a ROM that has the voodoo fix enabled?
Just odin back, root, flash a rom, freeze the app with titanium backup.
Edit, n/m, just realized you weren't talking about an app. I'll read the link you posted.
I'm on trigger 2.6.1, no issues here. You sure it's not a bad app man?
As far as I can tell, no. It certainly could be but the I've been having battery issues since bionix 3 I think.
However I did read on that google link that certain media centric apps can cause it to go nuts. I am using the winamp beta app and youtube pretty heavily (although thats obviously unlikely to be the culprit).
I thought about freezing it but ya, its a sub process under the 'system processes'...process so I can't freeze it without taking down the whole thing and probably causing way more issues.
Thanks for the response though, appreciated.
Dude, winamp and youtube are going to use a lot of power.. How long is a full charge for you?
About 8 hours. I pull it off the charger at 7:30am, use winamp for music for about 1 - 1.5 hours and other moderate use. Dead by the time I leave work at 5. Get home, charge it up until I hit the gym (usually get it to roughly 50%) and listen to music, watch a couple videos and its begging for the charger by the time I get home.
Furthermore, I use the system panel app to find out exactly what is eating CPU cycles. That 'mediaprocess' thing is exponentially above everything else. So either a bad app is causing it to run and keep it running or something else is triggering it. I formatted both SD Cards per some of the suggestions elsewhere, but no dice.
seems like your getting normal battery life.
heavy usage on your phone will eat up the battery. especially watching videos.
So what do I make of the mediaserver process that is using up 40-50% of the battery? Watching videos, listening to music or not, I get the same results. I really don't think its that.
Are you sure you're completely killing the apps when you're not using them? Use the task manager and be sure the app is not running. Otherwise, be sure to freeze media hub and the DRM storage with TB. It should help with drain while the phone is on standby.
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Ya I'm sure. I don't even have mediahub installed on the phone however I am going to try freezing / removing the DRM storage thing.
Mediaserver constantly running is the reasons the battery drains. I didn't know if anyone has any solution as to how to kill it, or how to keep it from running continuously. This is a known bug as shown in the link in OP.
I'm guessing everytime I open up winamp or something it starts, then never stops after that. Who knows.
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Ya I'm sure. I don't even have mediahub installed on the phone however I am going to try freezing / removing the DRM storage thing.
Mediaserver constantly running is the reasons the battery drains. I didn't know if anyone has any solution as to how to kill it, or how to keep it from running continuously. This is a known bug as shown in the link in OP.
I'm guessing everytime I open up winamp or something it starts, then never stops after that. Who knows.
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Do you have allshare installed?
running Trigger 2.6
W/ dragon kernel uv/oc to 1.28
and Adw launcher ex
No sir. I've deleted pretty much anything DRM, Mediahub or Allshare related. Most of it is already removed with Trigger (ROM I'm using right now) and I removed a couple more services / apps in the quest for better battery life.
OKay, so this is my first android phone, coming from an Iphone 4 and let me tell you im about 80% disappointed.
Here are some problems im having, im hoping that you can help me turn that 80 into a 20.
1. Apps just randomly run in the background: I'll close all but my live background, my task manager and my alarm clock and go to sleep. When I wake up almost EVERY SINGLE app I have is running in the background. Why? How do I stop this, the Iphone never did this, I feel this is a hard fail on androids part.
2. Many apps force close while im trying to use them: Ive tried stock rom, and serenity 8, same apps same issues. Its becoming a turn off to use the phone for any apps.
3. Multitasking: Is there any? MOST of the time when I switch apps and "multitask" its just like having the app open at the start page, I dont have to reload the app but its not where I last left it like the Iphone. Even on web pages I find if I switch out of the web and go to another app if I return to the web im back at my home page and I have to go to my history just to get back where I was. Is there a way for me to fix this?
4: Ram usage: when I turn my phone off, then on I see 150 in the used ram. This number raises even with out opening any apps. I kill all apps and close all running programs I see nothing running except services and it raises as high as 600 mb with 0 apps open and nothing running except a live background and the task manager. My iphone never had a memory leak, how do I fix this? 600 mb to do nothing is a bit excessive.
As a software developer im really confused as how Google tricked everyone that android was good. Perhaps Im just uninformed and that is why I am here. I am wondering why there would be all these problems right out of the box on an item that is what 4th 5th generation? These are problems that shouldnt be as frequent in 1st and 2nd generations. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
1. this question has been asked a million times. In short, the Android OS handles memory much different than you'd expect. An app will appear as running after you close it but it may not be. Android just keeps that memory allocated to that app in case you need to use it again. But if the OS needs that memory for something else, it will release it from that app and use it for something else.
2. what apps FC on you?
3. i'll leave this for someone else to explain because I dont use the browser much so I dont have much experience with that.
4. this goes along with my answer for #1. Android OS likes to have its memory allocated but it doesnt mean those apps are running.
I might be a little off on my explanation so I'll leave it to the experts to clarify but i'm pretty sure i'm fairly accurate.
1/4 - Not deficiencies, Android is designed that way. If an app is resident in memory, it is more readily accessible. Some badly written apps DO more than just sit there in the task list - but most are OK. Sitting in memory is not bad - holding a wakelock or showing up in your battery usage is.
2 - No clue - not having this problem here. I haven't seen an FC in a few weeks, and the last one was my own fault. What apps?
3) This depends on the app. However, usually the browser returns to wherever I last was when I use it. In fact I wish it were easier to "go home"...
3) Matter of using the right button. Close the app with the home button, and restart it where it left off. Back out of the app with the back button, and start over.
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
i really dont know what to tell you about the FC's because none of those FC on me ... whether I was stock or not. That just doesnt sound right. If you're stock, it shouldn't be FC'ing at all. I can understand if you're rooted and running S8 or some other ROM. Maybe something happened during the flash but stock should be fine.
I'm also trying out the browser on my phone and if I load a random website, go home, open another app and go back to the browser, its still on the last page I viewed.
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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If you're swithing from app to app, and want to do it more quickly, hold the home button for a few seconds (pretty much anywhere, no need to go 'home' first). It will open up a list of the last 6 apps you've used. Pretty sure from the point you left off.
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
Chase
email
Gmail
maps
market
netflix
web
I'm running Serendipity 8.1 and do not have any problems with these apps from your list. You may need to re-flash.
Edit: what Entropy said.
DKS1282 said:
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
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any of them are good but I personally use UnNamed. You really should wipe your phone first. Thats probably why you have so many FC's. When you flash a new rom, make sure you do NOT restore system apps via Titanium Backup (if thats what you use).
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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i think thats exactly what happened because having that many FC's is not normal .
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
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Lot of user error here. I'm on the stock ROM with root.
Switch apps quickly by holding home.
If you use the back button to exit an app then you truly are exiting the app. Use home if you want it to start running.
Don't worry about ram usage. This device has 1GB and Android manages it very well without you ever having to worry.
I never have force closes unless it's the developers issue. If you're running from backed up apps then you can expect to have FCs. Install from fresh if you try a new ROM.
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I think the main reason the op is having his browser reset most of the time is because the op is using some kind if task killer. This task killer is also probably the cause of a significant portion of the fc's being experienced.
There should be a forum rule against people who run task killers then complain about fc's, laggy apps, and problems with multitasking.
I mean it should be obvious running a "task killer" on a device designed specifically to multitask - it is so silly. Look at the two phrases side by side "task killer" "multitasking device" - can you see what I mean.
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dayv said:
To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
Just because you don't know how to use a device does not make the device a general fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the guy who has no understanding on what is going on with the processes in the device and drawing conclusions on based on an obviously ignorant perception those observations.
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I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Not that I know of. There are little tricks like that and a good majority of people would never know of them I'm afraid.
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jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Samsung has a tips and tricks page specifically for the AT&T GS2 that may show you some things you didn't know. One thing I didn't know was that you can take a screenshot with stock by pressing the power button and the home button at the same time. I also didn't know you can access the clipboard to show everything you "copied" from text fields.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-galaxy-s-ii-at-t-
As far as the OP's issues, I have all of those apps except for chase and hootsuite installed on stock and I don't FC at all. For the browser concerns, you may just be opening a new window each time you run the browser from the app icon. Try zooming all the way out of the page and then pinch to zoom out once more and it will show you the windows you have open, or you can press the menu key and select windows. The icon for "windows" in the menu will have a number on it if you have more than one open.
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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Number 1... I didnt do that. I didnt think I had to off of a stock rom, but your right, I should have.
Thread cleaned... Please do not make me have to do so again. This forum is for friendly discussion.. Lets keep it that way.
edit --- I see Devine madcat is pushing back to topic
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