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I wonder what program/codec pack I should use to be able to watch the films that I watch on my computer. On my PC I use Media Player Classic with K-lite codec pack and I can watch mostly all film formats, including .flv and stuff. On my HTC I can hardly watch anything. I currently have Core Media Player and Windows media Player on my phone. What do I miss?
Thanks!
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Try This...
I've used this for over a year now. It's not designed specifically for the Rose, but it works - that's all that matters!
Set the output resolution to VGA (640x480) and they will play fine. You can play the converted videos with HTC Album, no special codecs, or additional software required. I use it to converted .avi and .flv, but I'm sure it will convert a lot more than just those two formats
On my S710 (not tried on my S740) I use PocketTV Classic (free one) or TCPMP (Core Media Player) depending on the file type. Either is 100x better than Windows Media Player for any video I've tried but as grahamkdt pointed out you should use a utility to convert the source videos to a phone-friendly format: type (diff compression types require more or less CPU usage & may only work with certain players), resolution (pref match your screen res) and bit-rates that your media & phone can keep up so it's not choppy. Once you optimize video files & try a few players you should be able to get some pretty decent playback on a Rose considering I was able to on my old S710 which has a lot less power.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636423 this is the tcpmp build i use for some months, the best one i tried, i hate converting videos but this plays most my videos without needing any conversion
Elusivo said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636423 this is the tcpmp build i use for some months, the best one i tried, i hate converting videos but this plays most my videos without needing any conversion
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Cool thanks, hadn't seen that version.
As far as converting, why make your phone work harder than it has to & waste a ton of space on your storage card when you can just spend a few minutes converting videos to optimize for your phone? Especially with super fast computers these days it doesn't take a few seconds to a few minutes now. Of course you wouldn't convert in certain circumstances (like if the original wasn't very hi-res to start with) especially if you're only going to watch it once & delete to free up space but if you plan to keep it why not shrink it down and have it play even smoother? Besides they copy over usb or onto flash a lot faster when they're smaller. Plus not sure any phone can handle HD let alone blueray yet and who'd waste the space if it could.
haha yes i know bill, but in my case, unfortunately, i suffer from a serious case of laziness and procrastination so i just can't really be bothered with getting more programs and go through all the work to convert stuff, i dun even convert the ones that i want but can't watch on the mobile lol those that i want but can't i just watch them on the computer and curse my mobile with some nasty words
I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Sprdtyf350 said:
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Sprdtyf350 said:
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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japhule said:
It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
Video Playback
I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.
Well this is actually a topic with 2 quetions in it.
1) Did you guys already notice when playing a movie on the Prime, and you connected the prime to a tv through a microHDMI cable the subtitles shown on the Prime, do not show up on the television. It looks like the prime only sends the pure video signal to the tv and not the extra's such as subtitles. Is there some kind of workaroud for this? I've tried both DicePlayer as MX Video Player without any succes.
2) This is the main question. What program do you guys use, and which settings, to convert movies you've downloaded or ripped? I know the Prime plays a lot of formats, but the main reason for asking is that most downloaded movies are rather big files (over 10Gb). So I want to make them smaller in size. So which program do you recommand for that, and which which settings?
Personally I've tried two programs:
- XMedia Recode. Ideal program because it has already a lot of pre-settings in it, also one for the Asus Transformer. But the outcome file is quite grainy.
- MediaCoder. A lot can be adjusted, but no presets. And from a quick comparison, I think the outcome file is not really nice to look at. Lot's of distortion, blocks, etc.
So please advice.
Google DVD Catalyst
So far it's hasn't met a DVD or video file it didn't like.
Transformer Prime presets at different quality settings.
I've been using it for a while, it's great.
Ok I will try that. But does it also hard encode the subtitles, so the subtitles are show on the Tv when the prime is connected through microHDMI to the tv?
10GBs? Where you getting your movies from !? I use 720p BluRay Rips that are around 2Gbs or less
This is for personal watching on the prime not using TV.
I use various torrent sites to get my HD TV Shows to watch at work
I also MX player to play movies that the stock player wont play
I download movies for watching on the tv, but sometimes, eg, when I'm in the nighshift, I want to convert them to 720p movies.
I also watch older movies which are not always in 720p, or not even in X264 format, but only in DVD format.
And because I'm living in the Netherlands, not everybody encodes the movies in 720p with dutch subtitles but only in 1080p. So that's why.
But then is there still the problem that the Prime does not show the subtitles on the tv. The only way to see the subtitles I think, is when they are hard coded in the movie.
Not sure about DVD Catalyst and hard coding them but Tools4movies is great about answering email. They should be able to tell you if it's possible or not. My laptop is down for the count right now or I'd look at the many settings this program has to see if its a possibility.
From Tools4movies website:
Tools4Movies was founded in late 2003. While initially developed as a basic video conversion utility, in the middle of 2004, the
first version of DVD Catalyst was released under the name of mMedia.
mMedia consisted of 2 separate applications called mDVD and mVideo. mVideo was the continuation of an in-home build video
conversion utility, and mDVD was essentially a modified version to enable DVD support.
After a few months of continuous development, mMedia was replaced with PocketDVD 1.0, which initially hold onto the 2 separate
applications, but with later versions, both were merged into a single application to make better use of the powerful batching capabilities
that the applications offered. The first name change, from mMedia to PocketDVD was decided on due for marketing reasons.
After a few successful version-upgrades, and PocketDVD 2.0 winning the Smartphone and Pocket PC Magazine Best Software Awards, a
new name change was needed because we were receiving too many support requests for applications with a similar name. While initially
beneficial (we do answer all emails within a very reasonable response time, even if it was not for our own application) we found it better
to have a more distinctive look and name to avoid confusion. As we at DVD Catalyst are cat-persons (well, 1 cat and 2 yorkies at the
moment), we decided to use distinctive cat-eyes in the graphical design, and of course DVD CATalyst as a name.
DVD Catalyst was born out of our own personal needs. After looking around the web for an application to assist us with putting movies
on our portable devices, we found that there was nothing on the market that would easily enable us to start a conversion with more than
just one DVD track or video file. On top of that, all available software treated DVDs and video files as being different, basically forcing you
to purchase 2 products for essentially doing the same thing.
So rather than settling for a multi-app solution, we started development on something that would do what we want; Rip multiple DVDs,
convert numerous video files, and provide us with all the control over the conversion we could ever need.
Unlike most video-conversion-app developers out there, we actually use our own software on a daily basis. Whenever we run into
something we would like it to do, we build it into our software.
Coming from a history of support-jobs, we actually listen to our customers. Besides providing the best possible support, we are also
always open for suggestions. We do come up with ideas and new features ourselves, but customer suggestions and feature requests has
made DVD Catalyst what it is today.
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for video conversions I like using the program "super"
www.erightsoft.com/S6Kg1.html
Download link is at the bottom of the page.
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Ok I will try that. But does it also hard encode the subtitles, so the subtitles are show on the Tv when the prime is connected through microHDMI to the tv?
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Hi Bart,
DVD Catalyst will hard-code the subs into your video files.
If you have any questions, just send me an email or PM. If it makes it easier, I can reply in Dutch if needed.
^^^
See this is why these guys are the B-E-S-T!!!!
I've tried DVD Catalyst, and wow, it's amazingly fast!
I'm impressed bij the simplicity and the quality!
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Hi Bart,
DVD Catalyst will hard-code the subs into your video files.
If you have any questions, just send me an email or PM. If it makes it easier, I can reply in Dutch if needed.
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Gna gna, that makes it a lot easier ;-)
2. I use xilisoft video converter ultimate. The PS3 HD h.264 profile works perfectly.
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When trying to send a video through mms to an iPhone all they get is the audio and a blank scree. I have the camcorder set to limit for mms but I dont know what else to do.
yeah, same here. i want to know. anyone please answer his question would be appreciated.
I think the issue is with the iPhone. I have ZERO problems sending MMS to other Android phones across carriers but with the iPhone they fail.
The iPhone has so many limitations its laughable. there are many video and audio formats not supported by iOS--or, you need spend hours of your time searching the internet for 3rd party software that can convert them.
for example, the iPhone is supposed to be able to play .mp4 but most of the time I have to convert them--TO MP4 !!! to get iTunes to allow me to add it to my iPhone 4 (and all other versions of iPhone Ive had)
One of the reasons I switched to Android, I can use it as I want.
I use whatsapp, you could send anything you want.. Other app is chatOn from samsung its available for both plataforms..
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Smash the iPhone and tell them to get an Android. Haha. I kid, I kid.
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The issue is indeed with the iphone and it's supported files. First you must understand that MP4 is a container file, not just a video format. A container file holds several items, primarily Video and Audio. An MP4 may have 3GP, MKV, AVI and a plethora of other formats. Same for audio. What the user is experiencing is the iPhone doing the best it can with it's limited support. it is running the MP4 and finding only supported audio files, and not video. When you start using handbrake or format factory, you begin to understand how all this works. It really isn't too hard once you get your head wrapped around it, but until you do it's a little complicated. The links below, specifically the first one, should do the trick for this. This is very important if you every want successfully watch movies on mobile devices or run a home media server such as plex. I run a Win2008 Server with a Plex server running from that. I stream to alot of different devices both on local network and outside my home while traveling and to family. it took alot of reading and understanding to come up with just the right compressions and containers to do the job without offering duplicates for each device.
Some reading:
Basics to understand what we're discussing-
http://www.pcworld.com/article/213612/all_about_video_codecs_and_containers.html
A little more detailed-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_container_format
I found that if I use GoSMS and use the Go Message Capture video that you can capture and send a video to an iPhone. FYI
Hello, this problem has been bugging me for a loong time, since my first android phone.
When I first had my HTC Hero, I found about android's DLNA capabilities and it was pretty
amazing that I could stream music and pictures to my tv, even videos in some rare occasions but
actual on-the-fly transcoding was completely impossible. Now skip ahead to my third phone, ZTE Blade III.
1Ghz and 512mb ram is quite good for what I need and I was hoping that it could transcode some poor-quality
videos I film with my phone. Why? Well, my TV has pretty small range of supported video formats and of course
that my phone records video in the unsupported format. I tried a wide varety of DLNA apps and none of them
had anything to do with transcoding. I tried twonky, skifta, bubbleupnp... No result.
Why is this so taboo? I understand if the file is in full HD but Blade III records in VGA. It shouldn't be a problem
to transcode or am I mistaken?
tl;dr need app that can transcode files in real time and send them to my tv (something like wmp but on android)
If you have a solution or idea, please share it with me and everybody else here :good:
Upgraded from blade iii to optimus l7 ii and now bumping the thread.
I know what you mean, I've had no luck getting Twonky to do transcoding, I can't find any documentation anywhere! It's driving me nuts!
I've had the most luck with PS3 Media Server. Don't be fooled by the name, it doesn't just work with PS3. It can use FFMPEG, MEncoder and VLC as transcoders, and supports realtime muxing with tsmuxer. If one of the transcoders does not play ball (for example VLC is better with corrupt files than the others from experience), there is a good chance the others will. It also supports burning in subtitles which I find really useful as I like watching foreign films. You can select which transcoder you want to use from the client itself, which is really handy!
I will try it ASAP, thanks a lot!
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I can't find "PS3 Media Server" on Google Play, mind sharing the link?