[Q] Simple questions, simple answers - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone....
Sorry for some dumb questions but I am new at this... and this is the greatest forum for andriod users....
What is a Kernel? and what it looks like on the phone? :angel:
How many types of roots there is (no ways to root)? Is there only one, two or hundreds? and sorry about this one, but how does a root phone looks like? is there an app (like Cydia on iOS) or how do I know a phone is rooted? :silly:
Is CWM a way to root the phone? or a Kernel?
What is a ROM? Any ROM could run with any kind of root i.e. CWM? or each ROM just run with its own root/kernel?
What is Brick? what happens when my phone Bricks? is now my phone trash?
Is there a "restore default setting" bottom like in iTunes?
THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT, is there a file with, lets say, all the factory settings for the Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 to restore as default?
Thanks for your responses, aprreciate it.

melvinelelefante2000 said:
Hi everyone....
Sorry for some dumb questions but I am new at this... and this is the greatest forum for andriod users....
What is a Kernel? and what it looks like on the phone? :angel:
How many types of roots there is (no ways to root)? Is there only one, two or hundreds? and sorry about this one, but how does a root phone looks like? is there an app (like Cydia on iOS) or how do I know a phone is rooted? :silly:
Is CWM a way to root the phone? or a Kernel?
What is a ROM? Any ROM could run with any kind of root i.e. CWM? or each ROM just run with its own root/kernel?
What is Brick? what happens when my phone Bricks? is now my phone trash?
Is there a "restore default setting" bottom like in iTunes?
THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT, is there a file with, lets say, all the factory settings for the Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 to restore as default?
Thanks for your responses, aprreciate it.
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U don't u go and use that search button there?
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228

melvinelelefante2000 said:
Hi everyone....
Sorry for some dumb questions but I am new at this... and this is the greatest forum for andriod users....
What is a Kernel? and what it looks like on the phone? :angel:
How many types of roots there is (no ways to root)? Is there only one, two or hundreds? and sorry about this one, but how does a root phone looks like? is there an app (like Cydia on iOS) or how do I know a phone is rooted? :silly:
Is CWM a way to root the phone? or a Kernel?
What is a ROM? Any ROM could run with any kind of root i.e. CWM? or each ROM just run with its own root/kernel?
What is Brick? what happens when my phone Bricks? is now my phone trash?
Is there a "restore default setting" bottom like in iTunes?
THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT, is there a file with, lets say, all the factory settings for the Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 to restore as default?
Thanks for your responses, aprreciate it.
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Do you want to root your phone? I will give instructions on how (at the end of the reply), but if you dont then just dont do it, you have a chance of messing up your phone. there's your warning...
To your first question "what is a kernel"
When software needs the hardware to do anything, it sends a request to the kernel. You can flash a kernel via Odin (search it up Google) IF you don't already have CWM then just flash the kernel in CWM. Make sure if you flash in Odin the file is a .tar or .tar.md5 type. And in CWM it is a zip file.
To your second question "how many ways are there to root ( if i understand your question correctly) and how to know if you are rooted"
There are hundreds of ways to root. Maybe not hundreds but still a lot. Different phones have different ways to root. Some times i unroot my phone just for the fun of rooting it again a different way. Rooting the phone doesn't automatically change the appearance of the phone. There are however a few apps that can help you do that but launchers are for unrooted phones and they are pretty good. There actually is an app called either "SuperUser" or "SuperSU". If you have this in your app drawer then you have root. DO NOT INSTALL EITHER OF THEM FROM THE MARKET. only if you know what you are doing do it.
To your third question "is CWM a way to root your phone?"
I will explain this in the guide on how to root your phone. But yes, you can root in CWM. i will show u how to root in CWM as a matter of fact.
To you 4th question "what is a ROM and what type of phone does it run on"
first of all, your question to this was said incorrectly. let me just clear something for you, there is one type of root access you can have. rooting your phone will just give you special permissions that the phone does not come with. so basically root helps you get EVERYTHING out of your phone that you want. also CWM is not a type of root, it is a recovery that will help you flash roms, kernels, themes, mods, etc. right now you are running on stock rom, which means you have the official android version for your phone. you can flash different ROMs and kernels but usually your rom comes with the recommended kernel.
for your 5th question "what is bricking your phone"
there are two ways of bricking your phone, soft brick and hard brick. Soft brick=not total trash, hard brick=your screwed. you can recover from soft brick but not form hard brick. bricking is just basically messing up your system files that lead to the road of scrwing up your phone. you dont really need to know about it if you do things correctly.
to your 6th question "how to restore to default or factory reset"
it is factory reset in android. factory reset will delte all info from your phones storage. so your internal sd card ( where all your files are) will be safe. also if you have an external sd card that also wont be touched. but you can format them by connecting your phone to your pc and right click and format if you want to. INSTRUCTIONS: go to settings<backup and reset<Factory Reset data. also if your phone is off you can boot into recovery and select factory reset from there. WARNING CWM is not touch enabled for most phones, so use your volume keys to move and power button to select.
HOW TO ROOT, THIS MIGHT MESSUP YOUR PHONE< YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
1. Download odin (googel it) (attached)
2. download attached file ( corn kernel) DO NOT EXTRACT LEAVE AS IS
3. boot into download ( you have a galaxy note if i am correct) i think it goes like: power off, then wait 2 mins for everything to close. HOLD the HOME BUTTON, VOLUME DOWN BUTTON, AND POWER BUTTON UNTIL A SCREEN POPS UP. if this is you first time, there will be a warning warning you, press the VLOUME UP button to get rid of it. you will know be in download mode.it should say downloading
4. Open odin ( run as admin if on windows, idk why but the ppl i got this info said to)
5. connect your phone to your pc via usb cord. odin should say "added"
6. click pda tab DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE, THAT WILL SOFT BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!!!
7. chose the corn kernel you downloaded in step two.
8. press start.
9. wait, odin should say "1 succeeded/0 failed"
10. wait a little longer until your phone FULLY REBOOTS, to do this i would recommend waiting 5 mins
11. shut off your phone again.
12. PRESS volume UP, HOME BUTTON, POWER BUTTON TO GET INTO RECOVERY
13. it should be in clock work mod recovery now.
14. go to advanced<and it should say "install super user and busy box (root)" go down there using your volume keys, select it with power button.
15. after it says done go back and hit reboot system now.
16. YOU WILL HAVE ROOT!

Related

How to Root/Recover/Flash Soft Bricked Phone. All-In-One Guide.

I remember when I was looking for all this info I had to jump from board to board to board and
experience tons of trial and error when I was successful with my own device then wounded up
bricking my phone or someone elses based on other factors, or OCLF/CWM not working in recovery,
all that fun stuff.
So I decided to design this guide as a way for a person to make one stop at this guide, and
find everything you need with some tips I had to learn the hardway.
First while YES you can root/flash your phone from 2.2 Froyo official Samsung it is more complicated
and you risk a LOT more. I HIGHLY recommend doing a flash BACK to 2.1 update 1 to make your phone
bone stock to the way it was when you first bought it (Or if you bought it with 2.2 the way it was at launch.
Its a MUCH easier process and almost impossible for something to go wrong in the process. These
steps will help if you have also bricked your phone (Kinda bricked anyways)or its stuck in a bootloop.
Also while rooting is great to apply some Lag Fixes and such there really is no point unless
your going to flash a new ROM (or OS if you're new to this) because you probably don't use your
phone to utilize any of this stuff anyways.
Before you start please be sure to have the drivers working for your phone on your PC.
If you are running Windows 7/Vista and User Account Control (UAC) is enabled, be sure
to right click the Odin icon and select Run as Administrator.
DISCLAIMER:This is my contribution to the wonderful android community here that has given me
a wealth of information on this subject, and had it not been for these boards and others like
it I would not be able to enjoy my phone and the contributions made here by so many hardworking
people. With that said. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU DAMAGING YOUR PHONE.
1.Back up everything in either Titanium backup or to PC (PC backup can only save Pictures etc.
not your message logs/call logs/account settings/etc.) A Nandroid backup should work equally as
well.
2.Shut Down phone into Download Mode so Odin can recognize phone.
-If phone is in boot loop or bricked:
-Plug USB cable into PC
-Take out battery
-Put battery back in
-Hold Vol Up + Vol Down buttons at same time
-While holding inster USB cable into phone
-Odin should now recognize device in download mode
3.Load Files into proper fields. (.TAR into TAR,.PIT into PIT)
4.Do not check any other boxes then defaults. You only want the PIT file and .TAR files for this.
5.Click Start.
6.Phone should begin flash process
NOTE: EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE AT THIS POINT WILL BE ERASED! KERNEL, BASEBAND, ROOT, ETC.
YOUR PHONE WILL BECOME COMPLETELY STOCK AS THOUGH IT WAS JUST PULLED FROM THE SHELF
IN THE UNITED STATES.
7.If process completes the phone will reboot on its own. If it gets stuck in any one process
without moving, just close the program, and repeat steps. Might take a few tries.
Once stock OS of 2.1 Update 1 is applied you can install the update.zip on the SD.
NOTE:YOU DO NOT EXTRACT THE .zip! JUST SIMPLY PLACE IT ONTO THE INTERNAL SD IN NO FOLDER.
If you're running 2.2 froyo and you were just flashed back to 2.1, then you should already have
an update.zip. Thats fine, delete the old one and replace the new one.
1.Now that the update.zip is on your phone the rest is really is. You can root your phone using
this file from your phone. Go into recovery by holding the Vol Up+Vol Down+Power button at the
same time while the phone is off. Let go once the Vibrant logo appears.
2.Select reinstall packages. Phone should reboot and you are now rooted!
If from here you want to flash a ROM over your current OS its simple.
1.When the phone reboots and you see you have SuperUse permissions you are rooted.
2.Go to the market and download ROM manager.
3.Select Install ClockWork Recovery Mod for your specific phone within the ROM manager app.
Find your ROM, Drop it into your SD the same way as the update.zip
4.Shut down your phone and boot back into Recovery Console.
5.Select Reinstall Packages again. This should Install ClockWork (CWM) OVER your recovery console.
If it doesnt take the first time just do it again, it will take you to a different color
console.
6.Once in CWM select the item using the Vol Up or Down buttons and power to select on Install
Zip from SD card.
7.Then pick Choose/Select .zip to Install.
8.Find your ROM, Select it. Select Yes to install.
9.WHAMMY your device is now installing the ROM and you have a flashed and rooted super android phone
on steroids.
Hope this helped.
---Giddy Ninja
FILES
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=androidspin/samsung/vibrant/&file=T959UVJFD.tar<---SGH-T959 JFD Image
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=androidspin/samsung/vibrant/&file=s1_odin_20100512.rar<---512 PIT File
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=androidspin/samsung/vibrant/&file=Odin3.rar<---Odin Application
**References used to build this tutorial when I F**ked up my own device**
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-810442.html
http://board.teamwhiskey.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=636
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/04/all-about-root-for-the-samsung-vibrant/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991267
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
Good guide for noobs
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
Good post I have and will be linking it to some ppl with problems thought you deserved your first thanks lol
Thanks for the responses and any feedback or critique on where/how I can make this guide more accessible is appreciated (PM please)
I wanted this to help people who are new and scared. lol
The guide that s15274n has is like the bible to this. but I know sometimes that much information can be either overwhelming or confusing to some.
So hopefully this helps out some people!
Thanks for the post man. The more ways to help the better. Mine has a ton more detail, but some may not want / need that much.
s15274n said:
Thanks for the post man. The more ways to help the better. Mine has a ton more detail, but some may not want / need that much.
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And that is EXACTLY what I was hoping to accomplish. Sadly though I didn't stumble across your thread last night when I had soft bricked my brothers phone and was doing a million google searches to find the work around on his boot loop frenzied phone (Recovery console was even corrupt).
So after what seemed like 1000 snipits from different articles I was able to mostly compile this. And then throw in some warnings for future rooters/flashers.
Had I known Samsung's own 2.2 release was going to be so AWFUL compared to 2.1 I never would have upgraded. But then again if I probably never would have flashed/rooted. haha. Oh well what can you do.
update.zip signature verification failed
the update.zip doesnt work in my DEfy
e: signature verification failed
installation aborted.
searching in xda developers i found this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995131&page=4
i dont really understand what is this update.zip for... yours is 600Kb and this one is 140Mb! this file is just to root the mobile right? I am a bit worry about to use this file... maybe i will get a Defy brick... hehe
any suggestion?
thanks a lot
jose
jacortijo said:
the update.zip doesnt work in my DEfy
e: signature verification failed
installation aborted.
searching in xda developers i found this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995131&page=4
i dont really understand what is this update.zip for... yours is 600Kb and this one is 140Mb! this file is just to root the mobile right? I am a bit worry about to use this file... maybe i will get a Defy brick... hehe
any suggestion?
thanks a lot
jose
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You are in the vibrant forms you need to go to the xda defy fourm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=852
Yea sorry I can't help you out. As stated above this is a Vibrant forum. So don't use that update.zip. Only two things I can tell you are go to the link above, and im sorry you bought a Motorola. Lol.
Sent from my roided out Vibrant.
Sir... i have faced a problem inmy swipe konnect plus smartphone. When i try to power on my phone it automatically goes to recovery mode. Service center says that phone cannot be flash.. so i decide to flash manualy
. Plz help me.. my phone unable to open... how to root my phone .. please help me...

please help and advice regarding steps to rooting my samsung

hey everyone, i am new here.. i have recently bought a samsung galaxy s3 GT-i9300
and i've used and installed several apps on it and after some time i've come through several apps that needs root in order to run.. so i think its time to learn how to root it incase i wanna try it soon.. after doing some searching i found out this, i will summarize ,
1st, shutdown and reboot using download mode
2nd, after ur in download mode, conect usb and open odin
3rd, in Odin , choose PDA and put the .tar file which by searching i downloaded a "CF-Root-SGS3-v6.3.tar" (Please recomend if this is normal and for any s3 will work), also only mark f.reset time and auto reboot
4th, click start on Odin , and some serious things starts to be typed on ur phone, u can remove the usb now
5th, ur done wait for ur samsung to start and ur done
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1 -is that it??? are there any mod or rom or steps or watever things to be done anymore?
2- is that i've heard people saying that after rooting there camera crashes and that it gives error or black screen everytime they open it, is this true? if yes how to solve it?
3- is it possible to unroot device and get the settings and software like it was before, as if it wasnt rooted , in other words , wipe out and reinstall everything like it came from factory??
4- what are the consequences of rooting? will i really like throw my phone away in the trash incase something went wrong during rooting or after?
5- can i follow this steps to any samsung galaxy s3? how about samsung galaxy s2? and how about on samsung captivate glide?
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i will appreciate some experts and profesionals to answer my questions and dont forget to tell me if CF-Root-sgS3-v6.3 is the right .tar file for me
and incase you need any info about my device , tell me and i'll post them out cuz i dont know what you need
thank you
Here is a guide on How to root
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s3/
Here is a guide to unroot
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-unroot/how-to-unroot-galaxy-s3-i9300/
Also to answer your questions
1- Yes that is done aslong as in your apps menu you see CWM and SU app now on your phone.
2- Ive rooted my Galaxy S3 and never had a problem with the Camera at all. I think it just sometimes happens. If this happens to you then search the forum for possible fixes.
3- Yes it is possible to unroot your phone. Check the second link i gave you above for this.
4- Nothing is completely safe but if you follow the instruction fully then you should have no problems.
5- All i can advise is to follow each phones rooting tutorial to the letter and you should be safe.
Hope this helps.
ok thanks for the quick reply.. it surely helps
1 more thing i need help with.. titanium backup pro is for root users i guess, how do u suggest i backup my files and everything?
also can i backup data of games etc? whats the solution to not waste everything i've downloaded lately, like need for speed and other games/apps that i've downloaded each over 500 mb , will connecting my phone to my computer and copying all files on SD data folder, then after root i Paste them back to the SD data, will that work?
thanks again for the reply
Ive never used Titanium Backup at all so cant too much on that side of things. But rooting wont lose your apps and data so your safe in that front.
But if you find the titanium backup thread then they will be more than willing to help you out.
Hope this has helped
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Something not covered in Donsimmi posts above... Another way to unroot and return your phone to Stock is to flash a stock ROM. You can browse onsite for stock roms such as [ROM][CWM][XXDLI3 Jellybean 4.1.1] Odexed & Fully Deodexed Stock Roms - I'm a bit noob as well but I think all that means is they've done some tweaking on a stock ROM release - or you can find the latest Stock ROM for your region and search/download it from SamMobile
Some of the custom ROM's will leave you rooted and some don't, but you just run the Odin process again. Or you can get Mobile Odin Pro which can flash from on the phone and includes the function to add root and other things into the flash process.
I cannot emphasise enough, FOLLOW THE STEPS EXACTLY in the ROM descriptions. Things may still go funny at times but if you have precisely followed the steps you know where and perhaps why and you can help those who will help you fix things by saying, I did THIS, then THAT, then this happened. If you've gone off and done something not in the instructions, it makes it harder for anyone to understand what went wrong.
I've had 3 'Oh ****!' moments so far and each one I have been able to retrieve by having followed the instructions exactly.
Don't forget to enjoy it all... :fingers-crossed:
Oh, and Titanium? It does both apps and data, and you can choose to restore everything or just particular parts of the backup. But don't forget to find a program to back up your system as well.

lg l9 p769 - droid 4.0.4 - i'm lost, could use help, linux user

i have been seeing a lot of threads about rooting this phone, but, they all have windows scripts, even the thread that is said to have a runme.sh does not have it in any of the links that i unzipped - only a runme.bat, but yet, people keep mentioning a runme.sh in it... also, i really don't see any one lying out the steps for doing this with linux.
i'm a noob, and dont really know much about this stuff, but i've done this ONCE before with a galxy exhibit, but it was very easy, i just copied a file to the phone (stock rom?), rebooted into recovery, told it to recover from that file, and i was done.
i have no idea how to do it with my new phone, and so i'm wondering:
1: where can i find the files i need to do this with linux - i just want root, nothing special
2: where can i find the steps necessary to do it - in the easiest manner possible?
3: it says i have droid 4.0.4, ICS, but every one who talks about lg l9 p769 says its JB, so, thats a bit odd...
any help is appreciated.
sentientsystem said:
3: it says i have droid 4.0.4, ICS, but every one who talks about lg l9 p769 says its JB, so, thats a bit odd...
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Your phone is running ICS 4.0, that is the version which it shipped with. Pretty much everyone on here has upgraded to JB either with software update on the phone or they have manually updated with the offline KDZ flash method.
I dont have any experience in linux so I cant help. I hope you can get your phone rooted!
Sent from my LG-P768 using xda app-developers app
i just started to restart my phone into recovery mode to see if i could put cyenogenmod on it without having to root it first, and it's saying "software upgrade ... please wait while upgrading...", so, i guess it's upgrading to JB right now... i'll see shortly.
but even if it does upgrade to JB, i still wouldn't know how to do it on linux. i figured there would just be some files to download, and a sequence of adb commands that i could type into bash, but, i'm kinda lost. i guess i'll wait and see if it upgrades to JB before asking more questions.
thanks.
sentientsystem said:
i just started to restart my phone into recovery mode to see if i could put cyenogenmod on it without having to root it first, and it's saying "software upgrade ... please wait while upgrading...", so, i guess it's upgrading to JB right now... i'll see shortly.
but even if it does upgrade to JB, i still wouldn't know how to do it on linux. i figured there would just be some files to download, and a sequence of adb commands that i could type into bash, but, i'm kinda lost. i guess i'll wait and see if it upgrades to JB before asking more questions.
thanks.
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You would need wine and then set it up...
Sent From My Xperia Themed P769
well, i tried that "LGpwn" and it didn't work, as well as a fake lg-recovery app. i figured out that i've got a "10g" phone (P769 V10G ICS). i'm not sure what the next step is. some one mentioned downgrading to JB... is there some where you can point me to for that???
i've GOT to get this t-mobile junk off my damned phone... i've even TRIED to install cyenogenmod, but i can't figure out how to get my phone to go into recovery mode (NOT factory rest) - i've tried volup+power+home and volup+power, and neither seem to be working.
Setup a sandbox, windows xp. LG uses windows, no other way to root as of right now for the t-mobile version.
Sent from my LGMS769 using xda app-developers app
yeah, it's starting to look like i'm gonna have to try this with a virtual machine, or, pay some one else to do it, or, go get my money back and downgrade to a samsung galaxy exihibit (not sure if the new model of that phone is just as easy as the exhibit 4g, but, it's screen is about an inch smaller than the lg, and they're all 3 the same price, so i'd rather keep the lg).
just out of curiosity, how do you get this phone to boot into recovery mode? you don't have to root it for that, or have windows, right? you just hit the right keys on the phone, right? i couldn't get it to work, but, maybe i was doing it wrong. and, if you can go into recovery, does it have to be rooted to use a cyenogenmod image, or will it not really know the difference?
thanks again. i'm sure this thread may help other noobs as well.
sentientsystem said:
yeah, it's starting to look like i'm gonna have to try this with a virtual machine, or, pay some one else to do it, or, go get my money back and downgrad to an samsung galaxy exihibit (not sure if the new model of that phone is just as easy as the exhibit 4g, but, it's screen is about an inch smaller than the lg, and they're all 3 the same price, so i'd rather keep the lg).
just out of curiosity, how do you get this phone to boot into recovery mode? you don't have to root it for that, or have windows, right? you just hit the right keys on the phone, right? i couldn't get it to work, but, maybe i was doing it wrong. and, if you can go into recovery, does it have to be rooted to use a cyenogenmod image, or will it not really know the difference?
thanks again. i'm sure this thread may help other noobs as well.
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Option #1
If you are rooted on stock T-Mobile 10e or 10g ROM and have the CWM installed from this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095825 follow my instructions.
Place one of these CWM ROM images on your SD-Card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136204
Place this JB radio firmware from T-Mobile 20d ROM on your SD-Card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256350
Power off the device.
After power on the back/menu capacitive buttons will flash repetedly. Press Volume down while the lights are flashing and the phone should go into recovery.
Flash the ROM first.
Flash the radio second.
Reboot.
***Notes***
1.) 20d is the latest T-Mobile, 21b is the latest Wind Mobile. Both work.
2.) 21b is lighter/faster but has no wifi-calling.
3.) 21b will require you to manually enter your APN settings for cellular data and MMS. Be sure to write down your APN settings before flashing this ROM.
4.) Some users say battery life sucks on JB. I notice that 21b is better on battery life than 20d.
Option #2.
In Linux install a Windows VM and follow the standard instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465
Use KVM with a GUI or even easier use VirtualBox.
I'm a die hard linux geek too. I even run linux at work while all of our msp software was written for windows. You are better off just running an old copy of xp inside virtualbox trust me its just easier that way. You can use adb if you like (its the same thing the windows users use in their batch files and just rewrite the bash script, but you will save yourself lots of headaches just using virtualbox. -- my .02
Sent from my LG-P769 using xda premium
i'm not exactly sure what the end result of your instructions are, as i assumed it was to BE rooted, but the first line of your post says "if you are rooted ...", so, i'm guessing you're telling us how to ... unlock the boot loader?
by the way, that reminds me, i still haven't come across any posts on this site that tell noobs:
# what's the unlocked boot loader FOR - why do you need this - what does it do?
# what's the difference between unlocked boot loaders and being rooted?
# do you have to unlock the bootloader to get root access?
all some one like ME needs, is root access, so that i can edit the /etc/hosts file and test mobile compatibility of web apps on the development server before making them live - and to remove t-mobile damned bloat-ware. i hope this helps others who are trying to understand the basic concepts of getting control over the phone they paid money for.
thanks again. now to find a winxp image to load into a virtual machine...
My bad. I should have read through your original question all the way before posting. I see that you are not rooted.
If you are on 10e ROM you can root in Linux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990705
It will require rewriting the batch script as a Linux shell script. It is possible but nobody has done it yet.
If you are on 10g you will need Windows. I have also answered your questions below.
sentientsystem said:
i'm not exactly sure what the end result of your instructions are, as i assumed it was to BE rooted, but the first line of your post says "if you are rooted ...", so, i'm guessing you're telling us how to ... unlock the boot loader?
by the way, that reminds me, i still haven't come across any posts on this site that tell noobs:
# what's the unlocked boot loader FOR - why do you need this - what does it do?
It allows you to boot an un-signed kernel. You can boot custom ROMs basically.
# what's the difference between unlocked boot loaders and being rooted?
Root allows you to `su -` to the root user and own the whole system.
# do you have to unlock the bootloader to get root access?
No.
all some one like ME needs, is root access, so that i can edit the /etc/hosts file and test mobile compatibility of web apps on the development server before making them live - and to remove t-mobile damned bloat-ware. i hope this helps others who are trying to understand the basic concepts of getting control over the phone they paid money for.
thanks again. now to find a winxp image to load into a virtual machine...
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yeah, the one t-mobile is selling now is a v10g - so, it's time to play with virtual machine, and hope that usb-access is passed through from ubuntu to the VM.
thanks for answering the other questions. i think this essentially sets things straight.
peace! \m/ (>_<) \m/
sentientsystem said:
yeah, the one t-mobile is selling now is a v10g - so, it's time to play with virtual machine, and hope that usb-access is passed through from ubuntu to the VM.
thanks for answering the other questions. i think this essentially sets things straight.
peace! \m/ (>_<) \m/
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Welcome!
I know that a long time ago when I ran VirtualBox in Ubuntu there was something I had to do to allow USB access to the VM.
Here are the current instructions directly from Ubuntu:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
Good luck.
hey, i've got 1 more quick question: is there a way to simply load a pre-rooted ROM onto it, like i did with my samsung? where you put it onto the device, the go into recovery mode and choose the pre-rooted ROM? i haven't seen any mention of that, so i'm not sure if that's an option...
also, how the hell do you make this boot into recovery mode? i still haven't been able to get it to do that?
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/
sentientsystem said:
hey, i've got 1 more quick question: is there a way to simply load a pre-rooted ROM onto it, like i did with my samsung? where you put it onto the device, the go into recovery mode and choose the pre-rooted ROM? i haven't seen any mention of that, so i'm not sure if that's an option...
also, how the hell do you make this boot into recovery mode? i still haven't been able to get it to do that?
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/
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Yes you can flash a pre-rooted image. They are available. Use the search?
I posted instructions on the first page showing how to boot recovery.
that's great news - that's all i really needed - i didn't see them before, at least, not conspicuously, but i'll search around again.
and, i must have some how missed your instructions, i'll look again.
thanks!
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I posted instructions on the first page showing how to boot recovery.
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those steps assume i have CWM installed, and i don't. i looked at installing CWM, and it doesn't have an official recovery app for the p769, and when i went to look at that thread you linked to, it says you must be rooted already. this is the aggravating part of us ignorant people dealing with people who know many things: it appears to us that you have to do some thing that requires that it is already done before you can do it. it doesn't make any sense - just a bunch of circualar requirements, with no beginning.
so, let me ask this a different way: how do i reboot into recovery mode, on a STOCK LG P769 v10g? the lights do not flash, and i'm assuming that is a CWM feature - but CWM is not installed - this is COMPLETELY STOCK - fresh out of the box. so, what do you press, when turning it on, to make it go into recovery mode, so that you can recover from a pre-rooted rom (which i am still looking for)?
i just want to "recover" to a pre-rooted rom, that's it, so that i can delete bloatware and edit the /etc/hosts file (for web app testing). this thread says you cant do this for LG phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174767 - i got the same result the last guy got . trying to borrow a windows computer now...
also, does any one know if it is safe to put a jelly bean rom onto a device that was using ice cream sandwich? is there a difference between the versions that would brick the device? is it not recommended, or is it highly recommended?
thanks again. sorry for all the confusion.
you know, as a side note: it may help more noobs understand this stuff if there was a sort of simplified glossary, perhaps as an official site thread, for the orientation of noobs, that would give an outline of the basic concepts, AND their order of operation. exmaple: "rooting is when you... bootloader unlocking is when you... CWM is for people who want to... you MUST do A before you can do B and then you can optionally do C if so desired...". that would help them understand where to START, then, where to GO next.
well, borrowed a windows computer and i got it rooted, but, i found out a few things about this exact model: it has no "boot to recovery" option, by default - it's locked down pretty good. you can not use any of the other root methods on this model, and you can not do it from linux (f*ck me).
so, that long-winded fake-software-update-while-switched-out-a-hex-edited-binary-file is the ONLY way for this exact model, it seems...
but, at least i can confirm that this exact model CAN be rooted at all
now to remove alllllllll the bloatware... and look into this CWM more and learn more about what is actually IS and WHY so many people install/use/flash it...
hey, does any one know if cyenogenmod ever got themselve's an "app/marketplace"??? that was one of the draw-backs to installing it, last i checked.
thanks @everyone for your help.
sentientsystem said:
those steps assume i have CWM installed, and i don't. i looked at installing CWM, and it doesn't have an official recovery app for the p769, and when i went to look at that thread you linked to, it says you must be rooted already. this is the aggravating part of us ignorant people dealing with people who know many things: it appears to us that you have to do some thing that requires that it is already done before you can do it. it doesn't make any sense - just a bunch of circualar requirements, with no beginning.
so, let me ask this a different way: how do i reboot into recovery mode, on a STOCK LG P769 v10g? the lights do not flash, and i'm assuming that is a CWM feature - but CWM is not installed - this is COMPLETELY STOCK - fresh out of the box. so, what do you press, when turning it on, to make it go into recovery mode, so that you can recover from a pre-rooted rom (which i am still looking for)?
i just want to "recover" to a pre-rooted rom, that's it, so that i can delete bloatware and edit the /etc/hosts file (for web app testing). this thread says you cant do this for LG phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174767 - i got the same result the last guy got . trying to borrow a windows computer now...
also, does any one know if it is safe to put a jelly bean rom onto a device that was using ice cream sandwich? is there a difference between the versions that would brick the device? is it not recommended, or is it highly recommended?
thanks again. sorry for all the confusion.
you know, as a side note: it may help more noobs understand this stuff if there was a sort of simplified glossary, perhaps as an official site thread, for the orientation of noobs, that would give an outline of the basic concepts, AND their order of operation. exmaple: "rooting is when you... bootloader unlocking is when you... CWM is for people who want to... you MUST do A before you can do B and then you can optionally do C if so desired...". that would help them understand where to START, then, where to GO next.
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I've decided to help you out This page will give you some more info on the P769 and several kdz (roms) for the P769
The fastest way to root is to flash the V21B kdz (this is the Jelly Bean version for Canada) using this guide, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36351786
The reason why you want this rom is because it has a vulnerability that is easy to exploit with Jcase apk
Once your followed everything (and rooted), install Super Su and Busybox
Next install artas182x second init CWM (in case you can't find it on his page, the link is here )
Note: you will see blinking led lights when you see the LG logo (booting up) appear after a couple of seconds. To enter the CWM press the vol (-) when the lights start flashing.
After you installed Artas182x CWM you can recover from someones clockworkmod backup.
following info from Cmahendra's thread
Note: only restore CWM backups from P769 versions or MS769!!!!
Or check out the V10B (MetroPCS "JellyBean") CWM backup
Now the only 2 reasons to unlock the bootloader are:
1. Install a safer and better CWM
The reason why is because Artas182x CWM is a second init (bootstrap), so if you mess around with a busybox apk and something goes wrong or you remove a file that is required (for CWM), it will stop operating. You will have to reflash the kdz or fix what you changed to get it working again.) I've had this problem several times while messing around with different busybox apps and etc.
2. Custom roms
(which you stated you are not looking for) not worth talking about right now.
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The only pre rooted roms are clockworkmod backups, lol
The default recovery is useless to us (unless you feel like solving the problem)
Flashing back and forth (ice to jelly) comes with risk, the program used on Windows to flash is buggy at times. The best way (in my opinion) is to flash only when really required and mostly restore from clockwormod backups. The device is actually hard to hard brick, but it will require at lot more knowledge to get your device running again.
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sentientsystem said:
well, borrowed a windows computer and i got it rooted, but, i found out a few things about this exact model: it has no "boot to recovery" option, by default - it's locked down pretty good. you can not use any of the other root methods on this model, and you can not do it from linux (f*ck me).
so, that long-winded fake-software-update-while-switched-out-a-hex-edited-binary-file is the ONLY way for this exact model, it seems...
but, at least i can confirm that this exact model CAN be rooted at all
now to remove alllllllll the bloatware... and look into this CWM more and learn more about what is actually IS and WHY so many people install/use/flash it...
hey, does any one know if cyenogenmod ever got themselve's an "app/marketplace"??? that was one of the draw-backs to installing it, last i checked.
thanks @all for your help.
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So what version are you on right now
Ice? Jelly?
i'm still on ICS for the moment. still trying to understand what i need to do next. re-reading your post for the 2nd time, and all the threads it references. making sure i don't screw any thing up. thinking about upgrading to JB, and trying this CWM. and looking into this "cyanogenmod" some more, to understand why i never see any one on this site mention it, and what all these "other roms" are about. lmao, like i said, i'm way new to this . it's a lot to take in, even for a web developer .
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/

[Q] please help...

Hi,
I need help guys.
I have S4 and I was trying to mess with it and now I don't have it at all. (pic 1)
the Samsung logo and unlock lock icon are as far as my phone goes now, and after that u cant even power it off u have get battery out. (pic 2)
I am able to go to download mode (pic 3)
and I was able to get to there (up+menu+power key), but now I cant even go there. I get black screen when I am trying to do it. (pic 4)
Thanks for your time,
Ps. Help me
Did you flash a ROM? In you pictures it appears that you can still get to recovery, is that true? What steps did you take for root? We need more information.
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Eeiden said:
Did you flash a ROM? In you pictures it appears that you can still get to recovery, is that true? What steps did you take for root? We need more information.
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I was trying to flash rom, I was trying to make in international phone so it could work in Europe with out any Verizon build in stuff, just pure Samsung.
I can go do download mode, I was able to go for recovery before. That why there is the 4th picture, in stead of regular recovery a had that "teamwin" screen. Now when I press up menu and power is saying its going to recovery boot but then it resets it self and going back to Samsung unlock icon screen and just stays there...
You hold volume down + power to get to download mode. Then connect to a pc and download the all in one tool found in the development thread. Ignore the messages about having your phone in USB debugging and tell it to flash twrp 2.6.0.0. If it doesn't take In download mode, try rebooting your phone while it tries to flash twrp.
If that doesn't work flash stock with Odin and re-root and unlock the phone.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
I'm having the exact same problems right now. I tried flashing a 4.3 i9505 rom and now I can't get back into recovery and I can't boot into the OS. I can get into download mode and use ODIN, but I don't know what to do from there. I tried using the All-In-One tool to install TWRP, but it just says Device Not Found. I also tried flashing the stock sch-i545 kernel in ODIN, and it completed successfully, rebooted, and its still doing the same thing. Is there some other way that I've missed to return to stock? I'm kinda bummin here.. but thats what comes with the territory I suppose. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Found the factory image thread. Going to follow instructions. Will report back.
it works but not completly
So guys going back to my problem I was trying to do everything like lahma69 was trying too...
in odin was error that device not found, all off that...
but what I did, I look more online and I found this one guy...
and what I did in download mode I use odin, and in PDA selection I use this file stockroms(dot)net/file/GalaxyS4/SCH-i545/VRUAMDK_NoWipe.tar.zip
now boom... its kinda works... I am back with my os, I got the android root.
but some things are not right... my phone is very hot, maybe because its charging its self for the first time in weeks.
more important is Whats is happening right now, in boot menu I get errors, no commands, it was not able to do factory reset until I went into os and did it over there... and I cant do software update from Verizon... it goes to root and its trying but then gets error and going back to os...
and I am worry about that file that I download...
so we got little progress and lahma69 I can at least operate os and I have back stock root...
but until we will not going to make it 100% hold on with what I did...
U cant flash a rom thats not made specifically for the verizon variant (i545). The i9505 is the international version of the phone. Hence your phone not booting. Youre going to have to flash the stock mdk firmware through odin and start over (reroot, etc).
SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
sannek, I actually got it back up and running doing the same thing you did. I flashed the factory image in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259
I haven't noticed any problems yet. I'm fixing to reroot and flash my nandroid. I will let you know if I run into any problems.
I know you can't typically flash a i9505 rom on a verizon gs4, but the author of a i9505 4.3 rom gave me some instructions to try in order to get it working. I'm inserting a 4.3 ramdisk into a 4.2 AOSP ktoonsez verizon gs4 kernel, and replacing the boot.img in the 4.3 i9505 rom. I now know that I had accidentally inserted the wrong version kernel, and thats what caused my problems.
lahma69 said:
sannek, I actually got it back up and running doing the same thing you did. I flashed the factory image in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259
I haven't noticed any problems yet. I'm fixing to reroot and flash my nandroid. I will let you know if I run into any problems.
I know you can't typically flash a i9505 rom on a verizon gs4, but the author of a i9505 4.3 rom gave me some instructions to try in order to get it working. I'm inserting a 4.3 ramdisk into a 4.2 AOSP ktoonsez verizon gs4 kernel, and replacing the boot.img in the 4.3 i9505 rom. I now know that I had accidentally inserted the wrong version kernel, and thats what caused my problems.
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lahma69 were u able to do software upgrade on your phone?
and I am happy for you, mine still have same problems like I mentions up there, I still get error and no command in root and I cant get software update... as soon I will be able to figure this out that will mean that my phone is 100% able to go back to Verizon that's one thing but then I will now for future because really want to make this phone a Europe compatible phone...
SaNNeK said:
lahma69 were u able to do software upgrade on your phone?
and I am happy for you, mine still have same problems like I mentions up there, I still get error and no command in root and I cant get software update... as soon I will be able to figure this out that will mean that my phone is 100% able to go back to Verizon that's one thing but then I will now for future because really want to make this phone a Europe compatible phone...
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My phone seems to be at 100%. I never do software updates through Verizon so I would not know if thats working or not. After I flashed the stock image in ODIN and rerooted my device, I immediately flashed TWRP through Goomanager and reflashed my nandroid (Eclipse TW rom.) Everything is running well and my phone isn't warm. Why are you trying to do a software update? I think there is an update now that can't be rooted, so you definitely don't want to do that...
I tried several things to get the i9505 4.3 rom running on my device. You can get an idea of what I did by reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253528&page=779 Scroll down to post #7785 and that is mine. I never did get it to boot... Let me know if you need anything else.
root problem and upgrate
So I did exactly how xda web site was saying about going back to stock and all of that.
It worked, I can run to os and I have original root.
Still have couple of problems,
1.when u in recovery I see error and no command right below android guy. also I see new info in yellow color, below regular blue recovery screen option. (pic1)
2. information in yellow color is follow: (pic 2)
# MANUAL MODE #
-- Appling Multi-CSC...
Applied the csc-code:VZN
successfully applied multi-CSC.
never see in before, don't know what to do..
3. I cant do regular Verizon software update. S4 resets it self and goes to recovery where is trying to do update but ends um saying error and then is going back to os and its saying that update was not that and that there were no changes applied...(pic 3)
I still need your help guys...
SaNNeK said:
So I did exactly how xda web site was saying about going back to stock and all of that.
It worked, I can run to os and I have original root.
Still have couple of problems,
1.when u in recovery I see error and no command right below android guy. also I see new info in yellow color, below regular blue recovery screen option. (pic1)
2. information in yellow color is follow: (pic 2)
# MANUAL MODE #
-- Appling Multi-CSC...
Applied the csc-code:VZN
successfully applied multi-CSC.
never see in before, don't know what to do..
3. I cant do regular Verizon software update. S4 resets it self and goes to recovery where is trying to do update but ends um saying error and then is going back to os and its saying that update was not that and that there were no changes applied...(pic 3)
I still need your help guys...
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Did you see what I said about doing Samsung software updates? The rooting threads for the Verizon GS4 say that the new VRUAME7 OTA update can't be rooted. After flashing the stock image from oden, why don't you reroot your device according to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798 and then install Goomanager, click the menu key, click "Install open recovery script" and that will install TWRP recovery. From there, flash a verizon rom of your choice and all should be well, no? I only use TWRP so I can't give you any input on other recoveries. Make sure you didn't somehow get updated to VRUAME7.
township japinove
lahma69 said:
My phone seems to be at 100%. I never do software updates through Verizon so I would not know if thats working or not. After I flashed the stock image in ODIN and rerooted my device, I immediately flashed TWRP through Goomanager and reflashed my nandroid (Eclipse TW rom.) Everything is running well and my phone isn't warm. Why are you trying to do a software update? I think there is an update now that can't be rooted, so you definitely don't want to do that...
I tried several things to get the i9505 4.3 rom running on my device. You can get an idea of what I did by reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253528&page=779 Scroll down to post #7785 and that is mine. I never did get it to boot... Let me know if you need anything else.
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Well I am not that good with all of it... I don't know a lot of meanings of all this like TWRP, Eclipse TW rom, or what you said u did on post #7785
so I am just trying to be able to make it run like new, and then if I do that I will try to work on my s3 and practice on that...
I am beginner in it... plus my English abilities are not that great, so I really don't know which root is the best or how to do it with out messing up entire phone. I love to dig into it, and my s4 was just laying broken for past month and I worked on in today with you guys and its almost working... I almost made claim from insurance for new phone but this one starts working today..
and looks like everything is fine with it
except root errors and no commands ,I cant wipe cash because its crashing and restarting and I cant do that software update, and I have that manual multi csc note in recovery system like I mention just on top with pictures...
SaNNeK said:
Well I am not that good with all of it... I don't know a lot of meanings of all this like TWRP, Eclipse TW rom, or what you said u did on post #7785
so I am just trying to be able to make it run like new, and then if I do that I will try to work on my s3 and practice on that...
I am beginner in it... plus my English abilities are not that great, so I really don't know which root is the best or how to do it with out messing up entire phone. I love to dig into it, and my s4 was just laying broken for past month and I worked on in today with you guys and its almost working... I almost made claim from insurance for new phone but this one starts working today..
and looks like everything is fine with it
except root errors and no commands ,I cant wipe cash because its crashing and restarting and I cant do that software update, and I have that manual multi csc note in recovery system like I mention just on top with pictures...
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Whats your build number in Settings -> About Phone ?
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whats your build number in settings -> about phone ?
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jdq39.i545vruamdk
Working progress
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jdq39.i545vruamdk
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so when I will learn how to fix my phone to 100%.
Then I will experiment with it and try to learn and install more roots if I will learn how to fix first... so I will not panic like I did this time... I was just completely lost, and I need to take is step by step... don't get me wrong... I love doing that kinda stuff I build my first pc when I was 10 years old... back on old good windows 95
SaNNeK said:
so when I will learn how to fix my phone to 100%.
Then I will experiment with it and try to learn and install more roots if I will learn how to fix first... so I will not panic like I did this time... I was just completely lost, and I need to take is step by step... don't get me wrong... I love doing that kinda stuff I build my first pc when I was 10 years old... back on old good windows 95
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Do you currently have root? To check, you can run the "SuperUser" app. If you don't have it, download it from the Play store. After installing it, run it, and a box should pop up asking you for superuser permissions. Click "Grant." If a message pops up that says something like "Superuser has been granted superuser permissions," then you have root. If you don't have root, you need to get it. Follow the instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798 . After performing those instructions, and verifying you have root, you need to download an application called "Goomanager" from the play store. After installing and opening it, click your "Menu" key (bottom left hand corner of your phone.) A menu will pop up. Click "Install open recovery script." Click Yes or Ok to all the pop up messages. After that completes, you will have TWRP recovery installed. Your recovery is what you boot your phone to in order to flash new roms, kernels, etc. In order to boot into recovery, turn off your phone completely, click and hold your volume up button, and power on your phone (while still holding volume up.) You should see some tiny blue text pop up in the top left hand corner of your screen that saying "Opening recovery" (or something to that effect.) Once you see that text, you can let go of volume up, and you will boot into TWRP. Let me know if you get this far...
And by the way, for the love of God, do not do any Samsung system updates.
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And by the way,for the love of God, do not do any Samsung system updates.
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And thats the most important part, because if you do you will lose root and your ability to customize your phone. In layman's terms? You will be re-VZ-navigated.
I am having a similar issue. Got the "Samsung Custom" boot screen with no boot to the OS after clean wipe and install of Hyperdrive 7. Since then I have been troubleshooting the issue and have tried many things including the "No-Wipe Factory Image". Once complete I am still getting the Samsung Custom boot screen and no loading of the OS.
Any ideas as to what I can try.
Thanks in advance,
Tony
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Do you currently have root? To check, you can run the "SuperUser" app. If you don't have it, download it from the Play store. After installing it, run it, and a box should pop up asking you for superuser permissions. Click "Grant." If a message pops up that says something like "Superuser has been granted superuser permissions," then you have root. If you don't have root, you need to get it. Follow the instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798 . After performing those instructions, and verifying you have root, you need to download an application called "Goomanager" from the play store. After installing and opening it, click your "Menu" key (bottom left hand corner of your phone.) A menu will pop up. Click "Install open recovery script." Click Yes or Ok to all the pop up messages. After that completes, you will have TWRP recovery installed. Your recovery is what you boot your phone to in order to flash new roms, kernels, etc. In order to boot into recovery, turn off your phone completely, click and hold your volume up button, and power on your phone (while still holding volume up.) You should see some tiny blue text pop up in the top left hand corner of your screen that saying "Opening recovery" (or something to that effect.) Once you see that text, you can let go of volume up, and you will boot into TWRP. Let me know if you get this far...
And by the way, for the love of God, do not do any Samsung system updates.
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as my understanding its not.. I just did that no wipe recovery...
sorry I was out of town today... so I assume I will have to do root but which one is the best? there is so many different ones...

[Q] How to root without loosing data?

This is the first time for me with an HTC device. So I need a little help.
I am trying to find a way for rooting the phone without loosing any data or configuration. Can somebody help me?
My phone is HTC One X+ running Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5.
In case I need to take claim the warranty of the phone what I would have to do? Is there something I should do before rooting the device, so that I will be able to unroot it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
obscurant1st said:
This is the first time for me with an HTC device. So I need a little help.
I am trying to find a way for rooting the phone without loosing any data or configuration. Can somebody help me?
My phone is HTC One X+ running Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5.
In case I need to take claim the warranty of the phone what I would have to do? Is there something I should do before rooting the device, so that I will be able to unroot it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I don't know all the answers to your questions but let me help you make something clear.
Unlocking the bootloader is different from "rooting"
Your warranty is voided when you unlock the bootloader, which is an important step to actually "root". Your bootloader is what you see when you reboot and hold volume down. The step of unlocking the bootloader is the step that cause you to lose your data. So I recommend you to connect your phone and copy all the valuable information and files on it to your PC, then once this step is done you can copy it back.
Rooting: Becoming the administrator of your phone (like sudo in linux) , Becoming a SUPERUSER , meaning you can change system files and so forth and so on (Thats the general explanation however since we all have S-ON so its called temporary root but lets not get ourselves to that yet)
How can you gain root access?
1-Unlock the bootloader
2-Install a custom recovery
3-flash "superuser.zip"(which will be included in almost all the guides that you will follow to root your phone)
Once you have root access you will be able to play with your phone settings , but be careful not to break the settings.
Now concerning your final question , how to "unroot"?
Before you flash "superuser.zip (which will be the real "rooting" of your phone) , you will go to your "custom recovery" (most popular onces are TWRP and CWM) and go to an option called "Backup" and you do a backup called "nandroid backup" , which copies your phone AS IT IS , which then you can copy it to your PC. You will be able to restore it using the recovery you had installed as it is. Which technically will "unroot" your phone.
Question you might ask: That is so cool, but can't I do it before unlocking the bootloader and losing all my data? from my EXPERIENCE and what I searched , No.
Then how will I benefit? Since having root access to your phone might put your phone in danger of breaking something , or installing a bad ROM (read about this topic before rooting. Here is a summary: "HTC Sense" is a ROM. "Samsung TouchWIZ" is a ROM, "Stock Android" is a ROM) you will have a full safe backup that you will be able to restore so you can have your phone running again.
Also note the following: Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to install custom roms , when you install custom roms your APPs are deleted BUT the data IN your SDcard directory will not be harmed (Music, pics..etc)
So how can I recover my applications? By installing "titanium backup" you will be able to backup all your applications apk and data, saved to your internal storage, so when you switch roms , you need to redownload the app and then restore your data, and you will have all your data back.
So why can't I use that before I unlock the bootloader? Because Titanium backup ITSELF requires root access to access your apps apks and do full backups.
Also a note, when flashing your FIRST ROM, you will sweat like a pig when you get stuck on "Boot screen" , its called a "BOOT LOOP" , do not fear. Since HTC has all the bootloaders S-ON (till now) you will need when you switch ROMS to flash the boot.img to your phone. HOW?
Google "Fastboot flash boot boot.img HTC" and you will see tons of guides. It should also be noted in every single custom ROM guide that you will need to follow that STEP.
ALSO!!! Do NOT FORGET TO MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE ROOTING AND BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FLASH A CUSTOM ROM!! AND DONT INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM FOR "AT&T" AND YOUR PHONE IS INTERNATIONAL AND VICE VERSA.
I rooted my phone and I wish I had someone to tell me that in a single post , so I spent around 10 minutes writing this guide , which I hope people will find useful.
Best of luck mate
Also note that this is the wrong section, since its a question it should go to "Q&A section".
Ghand0ur said:
I don't know all the answers to your questions but let me help you make something clear.
Unlocking the bootloader is different from "rooting"
Your warranty is voided when you unlock the bootloader, which is an important step to actually "root". Your bootloader is what you see when you reboot and hold volume down. The step of unlocking the bootloader is the step that cause you to lose your data. So I recommend you to connect your phone and copy all the valuable information and files on it to your PC, then once this step is done you can copy it back.
Rooting: Becoming the administrator of your phone (like sudo in linux) , Becoming a SUPERUSER , meaning you can change system files and so forth and so on (Thats the general explanation however since we all have S-ON so its called temporary root but lets not get ourselves to that yet)
How can you gain root access?
1-Unlock the bootloader
2-Install a custom recovery
3-flash "superuser.zip"(which will be included in almost all the guides that you will follow to root your phone)
Once you have root access you will be able to play with your phone settings , but be careful not to break the settings.
Now concerning your final question , how to "unroot"?
Before you flash "superuser.zip (which will be the real "rooting" of your phone) , you will go to your "custom recovery" (most popular onces are TWRP and CWM) and go to an option called "Backup" and you do a backup called "nandroid backup" , which copies your phone AS IT IS , which then you can copy it to your PC. You will be able to restore it using the recovery you had installed as it is. Which technically will "unroot" your phone.
Question you might ask: That is so cool, but can't I do it before unlocking the bootloader and losing all my data? from my EXPERIENCE and what I searched , No.
Then how will I benefit? Since having root access to your phone might put your phone in danger of breaking something , or installing a bad ROM (read about this topic before rooting. Here is a summary: "HTC Sense" is a ROM. "Samsung TouchWIZ" is a ROM, "Stock Android" is a ROM) you will have a full safe backup that you will be able to restore so you can have your phone running again.
Also note the following: Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to install custom roms , when you install custom roms your APPs are deleted BUT the data IN your SDcard directory will not be harmed (Music, pics..etc)
So how can I recover my applications? By installing "titanium backup" you will be able to backup all your applications apk and data, saved to your internal storage, so when you switch roms , you need to redownload the app and then restore your data, and you will have all your data back.
So why can't I use that before I unlock the bootloader? Because Titanium backup ITSELF requires root access to access your apps apks and do full backups.
Also a note, when flashing your FIRST ROM, you will sweat like a pig when you get stuck on "Boot screen" , its called a "BOOT LOOP" , do not fear. Since HTC has all the bootloaders S-ON (till now) you will need when you switch ROMS to flash the boot.img to your phone. HOW?
Google "Fastboot flash boot boot.img HTC" and you will see tons of guides. It should also be noted in every single custom ROM guide that you will need to follow that STEP.
ALSO!!! Do NOT FORGET TO MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP BEFORE ROOTING AND BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FLASH A CUSTOM ROM!! AND DONT INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM FOR "AT&T" AND YOUR PHONE IS INTERNATIONAL AND VICE VERSA.
I rooted my phone and I wish I had someone to tell me that in a single post , so I spent around 10 minutes writing this guide , which I hope people will find useful.
Best of luck mate
Also note that this is the wrong section, since its a question it should go to "Q&A section".
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Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
obscurant1st said:
Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
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I know its sort of tiring but honestly the payoff is massive, atleast to me. I explored things I didn't know about my phone. I learned information about how the phone is made. These information help you.
Inaddition to having custom ROMs, rooting offers you the benefit of backing up your games which is not available on stock.
Anyway, Best of luck, android is a great world to explore.
I however must give credit to every single one that helped me on that topic, and that's my way of paying them back. To Help others like me who need help
obscurant1st said:
Thanks a lot for explaining all these stuffs to me. Really appreciate it. I knew a few of the things already from what you wrote, but I must say a lot of these are completely new info for me!
So tl;dr I can't root without unlocking the bootloader!
Thats so sad. I wanted to save all the games and stuffs' data so that I won't have to redownload all the games. (
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If you root now, you'll be able to use titanium backup and backup all the data you want! Then you can transfer these game and app datas across any android device in the future!
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JustinBieber said:
If you root now, you'll be able to use titanium backup and backup all the data you want! Then you can transfer these game and app datas across any android device in the future!
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DON'T STEEL MY INFORMATION DSAHGASHNJKGJSKBGJKS GJKBA I ALREADY SAID THAT IN THE LONG LONG LONG LONG POST DJGKBASKGJSAGAS
Just kidding, If you missed what I said about titanium backup, its true, once you are root you won't lose your game data and stuff any longer.
Have been lots way but there is no
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