The title says it all. Nothing good can come of flashing with Odin except returning to stock. Stick with CWM or TWRP flashable zip files. If you disregard this message you will end up with a locked device, or even worse, a hard bricked device. Please use Odin as a factory restore tool only. I'm concerned that after unlock using our methods that people will flash the wrong thing and cause problems in the future.
The unlock method we have provided is not a standard Bootloader Unlock. It is an IROM unlock. This means you can quite literally flash anything to your device without any sort of signature checks. It is important that you stay safe and try to stay away from Odin unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks for all the hard work
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Excellent words of advice from an ERD who KNOWS what's he's talking about... Please take his advice everyone... It will save you A LOT of pain...
Stickied
Thanks for your hours of work. People WILL screw this up, unfortunately.
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thejron said:
Thanks for your hours of work. People WILL screw this up, unfortunately.
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Yup! I can already see the threads starting.... It is good to know that we can still use Odin though cause I was under the impression that Odin was a no-go at this point... So flashing the factory image from imnuts would be the best resort to get back to stock if we needed to return a device?
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Yup! I can already see the threads starting.... It is good to know that we can still use Odin though cause I was under the impression that Odin was a no-go at this point... So flashing the factory image from imnuts would be the best resort to get back to stock if we needed to return a device?
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yes...check my guide out! I have step by step instructions that clearly state what and what not to do!!
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yes...check my guide out! I have step by step instructions that clearly state what and what not to do!!
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Thanks buddy! I just checked it out and I am very thankful for your guides as it has helped me and MANY others! I have thanked so many people that my limit is up (for the day) but I appreciate your time that you have put forth to helping people! :good:
I know I'm off topic. I'm not an owner of the note 2 but wanted to say awesome signature to the OP. From one vet to another thank you
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yes...check my guide out! I have step by step instructions that clearly state what and what not to do!!
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I still have plenty of "Thanks" so Thanks, and I am gonna study this weekend, hopefully by then the other issues folks have been having will at least be identified if not corrected.. then it's freedom for me!!
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The title says it all. Nothing good can come of flashing with Odin except returning to stock. Stick with CWM or TWRP flashable zip files. If you disregard this message you will end up with a locked device, or even worse, a hard bricked device. Please use Odin as a factory restore tool only. I'm concerned that after unlock using our methods that people will flash the wrong thing and cause problems in the future.
The unlock method we have provided is not a standard Bootloader Unlock. It is an IROM unlock. This means you can quite literally flash anything to your device without any sort of signature checks. It is important that you stay safe and try to stay away from Odin unless absolutely necessary.
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Adam- but we ARE ok flashing with Odin so we can retrun to complete stock correct? your not saying that doing that may completely brick are phones are you? just want to be clear. i only use ODIN to go complete stock..
thank you for your work
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Adam- but we ARE ok flashing with Odin so we can retrun to complete stock correct? your not saying that doing that may completely brick are phones are you? just want to be clear. i only use ODIN to go complete stock..
thank you for your work
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"Please use Odin as a factory restore tool only"
In Androidstyle's guide thread, Adam asked him to point the unlock guide to his unlock thread, but I don't see an unlock thread from Adam, only the Revision3 thread which has no steps to unlock. I see the video Adam made, but my understanding is that the process has changed and the links to download Adam's ROM are dead on the Youtube page. Anyone have the link to Adam's unlock step by step guide?
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In Androidstyle's guide thread, Adam asked him to point the unlock guide to his unlock thread, but I don't see an unlock thread from Adam, only the Revision3 thread which has no steps to unlock. I see the video Adam made, but my understanding is that the process has changed and the links to download Adam's ROM are dead on the Youtube page. Anyone have the link to Adam's unlock step by step guide?
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It's in "Verizon Galaxy Note II Android Original Development". Go up one level and you'll see it. There are only two threads there so it shouldn't be too hard to find.
I don't mean to sound mean but if you really can't figure out how to get to his unlock thread do you really think it's a good idea to be unlocking your bootloader? Maybe you should just stick to a rooted image and read up and learn for awhile before jumping in over your head
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I don't mean to sound mean but if you really can't figure out how to get to his unlock thread do you really think it's a good idea to be unlocking your bootloader? Maybe you should just stick to a rooted image and read up and learn for awhile before jumping in over your head
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To be fair, the distinction between "Android development" and "Original Android development" is new for many of us. I, too, was wondering how to get back to this thread since I tend to browse XDA through bookmarks instead of the site hierarchies. I didn't realize there was an "original Android development" section until after I double checked the name on the thread jumper. It's not that one is technologically illiterate (I got through all this in one fell swoop with no issues and have rooted and unlocked every phone I've owned since the G1), it's just that it's different. Last device I had didn't have a section for original development, so it wasn't immediately obvious to me (though I quickly understood what it was for). so cut him some slack and just kindly point him to the right direction. I know you said you weren't trying to sound mean, but if you really weren't trying to sound mean you could have just helped him out without all of the extra, unnecessary commentary. You know what they say about assumptions, after all.
Just got the Note 2 on verizon and loving it so much I'm going to hold off for a bit before unlocking & rooting. Normally on all my android phones that is done day 1... but this time w/ the dev community just now unlocking it, I think I'm going to wait a few weeks.
In context, imnuts has put out a Recovery flash-able version of CWM. If one tries his CWM but wants to go back to TWRP then currently it seems that one need to ODIN it. To Adam Outler's point it would be safer to have a Recovery flash-able version of TWRP. [?]
AdamOutler said:
The title says it all. Nothing good can come of flashing with Odin except returning to stock. Stick with CWM or TWRP flashable zip files. If you disregard this message you will end up with a locked device, or even worse, a hard bricked device. Please use Odin as a factory restore tool only. I'm concerned that after unlock using our methods that people will flash the wrong thing and cause problems in the future.
The unlock method we have provided is not a standard Bootloader Unlock. It is an IROM unlock. This means you can quite literally flash anything to your device without any sort of signature checks. It is important that you stay safe and try to stay away from Odin unless absolutely necessary.
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Does the same go for Heimdall aswell then?
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Does the same go for Heimdall aswell then?
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Yes because it does the same job as ODIN but on a different operating system.
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Yes because it does the same job as ODIN but on a different operating system.
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That's what I figured , I thought I'd ask the dumb question to explicitly clarify it.
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This is my very first smartphone as I have been to poor to get one before now. I have Att SGS2. From what i have read i have made a bad decision when doing the factory upgrade to uckk6.
The thing is I want to root the phone, put on custom mods....but I am having a hard time grasping it. I don't want to mess anything up and I dont want to lose my photos and such that are on the phone.
I dont know where to even start.....backup program? or? what all programs or apps i need?
before I upgraded, i downloaded a super1click program and it said it was rooted...then i tried to use the phone and there was soooo much lag in the response time..... i hit the unroot button and tried to use the phone and same thing...restarted phone and it was fine. While it was rooted tho, the damn superuser part asked for money before i could even do anything, that was second reason for unroot and of course thinking i may mess up my phone.
I have tried asking all my friends and to no avail have succeeded in finding anyone that has rooted a phone and/or flashed custom roms.
Like I said in the title, i have been to many different sites even trying to read up and I would rather be safe than sorry. If someone could plz help me out here I would be very grateful.
I am hoping I don't get spazzed at like i seen in a few other posts of other ppl.
And i have seen where someone sent ppl to:
[Heimdall][Odin][Stock][Root]UCKH7/KK6 Return/Unbrick to Stock (or Root
but that doesnt get my foothold on where to start at.
Please don't write me off as a lost cause because I would like to enjoy the benefits of having a rooted phone and custom roms as the rest of you that are intelligent enough to do so. At one point I'm sure you were where i am. I am very eager to learn and can't wait!
While I was writing this i downloaded the Uckk6_stock_rooted.tar.7z not sure if i need it or what though.
Thanks
Follow this guide TO A TEE, and you shouldn't have any problems. It also won't trigger the flash counter so you can take it back for repairs and Samsung won't know you've done anything to it. Use (2C) Entropy's version using windows to root as the others won't work with the OTA update. If you have a MAC, use 2D. Folow the directions EXACTLY how their written. This will get you rooted. Drop down to 3B and again, FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS EXACTLY HOW THEIR WRITTEN. After this is done, you have a Entropy's kernel with CWM. You can then download any COMPATIBLE rom to your internal SD card and flash the rom with CWM.
To save your pics and such, just hook your phone to your puter via the USB cord and copy/paste, or drag and drop to a file on your computer.
GUIDE
thx again axis01. i sent you a couple pm's with a few more detailed questions also
um.....got past the first part 2c......my wifi doesn't work now????
sorry for spazzing i guess. just trying to learn lol.
my phone wont connect to any wifi, turn it on, few seconds later it shuts itself off....... plz somone help asap! its 5 am now....gonna sleep, hopefully response tomorrow.
thx in advance
help came in later post to wipe. thanks
Did you root with kh7? I see you had kk6 stock. If you went back to kh7 (2.3.4) wifi breaks and have to wipe data. Look at entrophy's thread about it. The return to stock one
Head back over to sticky land... Rooting is the easy part.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
sent from my Galaxy SIII ...haha jk, I FOiLed ya!
I just don't understand why people who can't comprehend the process of rooting or flashing even try. It's not like this phone sucks stock that they just have to mod it to make it workable. None of this is rocket science, but if you don't understand it beforehand then JUST LEAVE YOUR PHONE ALONE! It will be 100 times harder to fix it if you don't know how you messed it up in the first place. It really isn't fair to expect people in here to bail you out when things go wrong because you didn't know what you were doing. The warnings aren't there to keep you from the good stuff. They're there so that you'll think before doing and only do once you understand.
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I just don't understand why people who can't comprehend the process of rooting or flashing even try. It's not like this phone sucks stock that they just have to mod it to make it workable. None of this is rocket science, but if you don't understand it beforehand then JUST LEAVE YOUR PHONE ALONE! It will be 100 times harder to fix it if you don't know how you messed it up in the first place. It really isn't fair to expect people in here to bail you out when things go wrong because you didn't know what you were doing. The warnings aren't there to keep you from the good stuff. They're there so that you'll think before doing and only do once you understand.
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my apologies
Dude stop spazzing out. And don't encourage Miami. Hes helpful but has no patience with this type of stuff. Frankly it was pretty obvious from your first post you were gonna come back with freak out apocalyptic questioning about stuff thats pretty basic.
You did everything in 2c?
Can you still enter download?
Do you have clockwork mod recovery? (Hold all three buttons until you see basic text on your screen... usually like 10 seconds.)
Did you back your contacts up?
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Error........
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Did you root with kh7? I see you had kk6 stock. If you went back to kh7 (2.3.4) wifi breaks and have to wipe data. Look at entrophy's thread about it. The return to stock one
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Thank you for that info. i did the wipe and it restored my wifi. should i update my superuser? for some reason in the market it's showing with an update
I was going to say wipe data but.wanted to be sure you backed your contacts up first.
Dude relax. If it says update, go ahead and update. What's the big deal?
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Dude stop spazzing out. And don't encourage Miami. Hes helpful but has no patience with this type of stuff. Frankly it was pretty obvious from your first post you were gonna come back with freak out apocalyptic questioning about stuff thats pretty basic.
You did everything in 2c?
Can you still enter download?
Do you have clockwork mod recovery? (Hold all three buttons until you see basic text on your screen... usually like 10 seconds.)
Did you back your contacts up?
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I did everything in 2c.
When entering download mode i still get
Odin Mode
Product name: SGH-I777
Custom Binary Download: NO
Current Binary: Samsung Official
I do have CWM and i backed up my contact on Kies.
As mentioned now, i have wiped the phone and wifi is working, but have read in forums where ppl have had it stop working again.
In creepyncrawlys guide I didn't read where it said it needed to be wiped?
Thanks
I've read everything in your thread so far and it sounds like everything is fixed. If wifi works and you have root, cwm, and superuser you should be good to go. Go install roms and enjoy. Really doubt your wifi is going anywhere. I'm far from a programmer or anything like that, and from my experience, if you follow the instructions it's hard to **** this phone up beyond repair firmware wise so freaking out is pointless.
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I bought the phone, rooted it and flashed a custom rom all yesterday. I was on KK6 2.3.6. Here is EXACTLY what I did:
Get Odin 1.7 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832827
Get Samsung Kies from here (only way my computer would pick up the phone):
http://mirror10.downloadandroidrom.com/download/Samsung/Kies_2.0.3.11082_152_4.exe?token=512181517
Follow 2c from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Then Step 3A in the same thread.
My phone restarted and I was rooted. My WiFi didn't work. Wiped all data in Clockwork Mod Recovery and I was all set. Then I unlocked my phone (this is optional). Then I flashed a ROM. Easy.
Seems like you're all set if I you did something close to that^
I used ICScrewD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375255)
Another popular option is UnNamed (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299474)
Kernels:
Entropy DD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289460)
Siyah (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367800)
croftmx said:
I did everything in 2c.
When entering download mode i still get
Odin Mode
Product name: SGH-I777
Custom Binary Download: NO
Current Binary: Samsung Official
I do have CWM and i backed up my contact on Kies.
As mentioned now, i have wiped the phone and wifi is working, but have read in forums where ppl have had it stop working again.
In creepyncrawlys guide I didn't read where it said it needed to be wiped?
Thanks
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Sounds like you're all set.
Don't use keis for anything. You only needed the drivers. Leave it closed. Figure out another way to get your contacts back.
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Croftmx, take the bullets but don't shoot them back while you are in learning curve, you have freedom of writing your comments about others, but i am afraid that may be end of help you seek from many who intend to help.just be kind and get your issues fixed, and move on, pal.
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I sure wish I'd read the post before you edited it. Hope you got the help you needed.
I was trying to return to stock using Heimdall. It failed for some reason. Whenever I have tried to use it it always says it failed but this time it went further then usual but the end result was a fail. I think it just repartitioned but I'm not sure. Anyways the only thing it would do is boot into cwm and download mode. So I restored a backup a previously made. Same thing it only booted into download mode and cwm. So I went and tried to flash through odin. Everything worked fine and still the same thing. So then I followed the unbrick thread on XDA and flashed the file and everything finished and said successful but my device would not boot up at all. Doing a little more research it seems that the unbrick method was for 5.0 devices only which I don't know why it isn't placed in plain sight for everyone to see but anyways now I have a dead device. Has anyone had any success with fixing this problem?
Can someone please help me
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Can someone please help me
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Ok so:
1. This isn't even talking about development so why are you putting it into dev section?
2. Have you tried a jig to get you back into download mode?
zaclimon said:
Ok so:
1. This isn't even talking about development so why are you putting it into dev section?
2. Have you tried a jig to get you back into download mode?
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I posted here because I have learned that only here is where people respond but anyways yes I have tried a jig and nothing happens.
fresh85 said:
I posted here because I have learned that only here is where people respond but anyways yes I have tried a jig and nothing happens.
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Wrong attitude, man. XDA is a free service and you are soliciting unpaid help. Follow the forum rules.
Most, if not all, of our Galaxy Player forum developers and contributors pay attention to all threads and you will get an answer from someone who knows.
If not, look in the development forum and find a developer and send a PM.
Don't clutter the wrong forum with your pleas for help, acting like you're the only one with that problem.
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I posted here because I have learned that only here is where people respond but anyways yes I have tried a jig and nothing happens.
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And you expect really having an answer here? You are serious right? Please tell me 1 recent thread on general that haven't been replied and then we can see if we never replies. Geez people are never grateful from what I see...
You guys are getting upset for the wrong reason. I have no attitudes and I'm just looking for help. I tried the other forum and didn't get any reply so I moved it to this forum and I am seeing some activity. I didn't know it was a crime. I was asked a question and an answer was given. Don't mistake a straight forward answer for an attitude. Thanks for your input. Now is there a solution for my problem? The SGP is my little nephews and I experimented with it and messed it up. All I want is a point in the right direction.
It might be a kernal issue. Try flashing a kernal for the 4 and see if that works.
Sent from my Chip 1.5 ROM + Entropy512's Kernal Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0 U.S.
fresh85 said:
You guys are getting upset for the wrong reason. I have no attitudes and I'm just looking for help. I tried the other forum and didn't get any reply so I moved it to this forum and I am seeing some activity. I didn't know it was a crime. I was asked a question and an answer was given. Don't mistake a straight forward answer for an attitude. Thanks for your input. Now is there a solution for my problem? The SGP is my little nephews and I experimented with it and messed it up. All I want is a point in the right direction.
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Alright, let's all take a deep breath and chill. We empathize with you, dude, we really do.
We need to address another XDA rule that you overlooked. (Understandably. No biggie. Not calling you out, just saying.)
When you post on XDA, you need to be as thorough about your problem as possible, so we don't clutter the thread with Q&A.
1. Symptoms of the problem: What works and doesn't?
2. Any reactions to button presses? Lights? Screen? Sound?
3. Any evidence that it's booting?
4. Does your computer register that it's being plugged in?
That'll help you get started. List anything else that might be noteworthy. Someone will help you.
Also, nightfire brings up a good point. Try flashing the stock kernel for your device via ODIN.
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What procedure did you go through when you were following the (wrong) un-brick instructions? Because, if your device is totally unresponsive, you've probably got yourself a Galaxy Paper Weight. If it's not something as dire as that, there may still be hope.
Did you attempt to flash a 5.0 bootloader on a 4.0? A wrong kernel flash wouldn't screw up your device as badly as that. You may need to re-partition some things (/efs and PIT, perhaps) and re-flash stock ROM.
But, please, work with us here and be specific about exactly what you did that led up to the current.
Screen doesn't turn on at all and odin doesn't recognize it.
I used this method....."[10/13]Brick Station! Here to solve your brickable needs! BOOTLOADERS AVAILABLE!!!". I'm not even sure anymore why I felt I needed to use that method but before I followed those steps my SGP would only go into download mode and CWM. I flashed roms and kernels using odin and it said pass...reset. I even restored an old backup but no matter what I did it always rebooted back into CWM. I followed the brick station steps but not the un-resurrectable part because my problem wasn't that extreme but after following through with those steps I now have a device that requires the un-resurrectable method but now I know that it's only for the 5.0. When I connect my device to my laptop it makes a sound like there is some life but nothing pops up...turns on or flashes. I even used a usb jig to try and get it to download mode but nothing at all.
Thank you guys for the help.
where are you now
check this thread out it might help---http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903252---Good luck
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I used this method....."[10/13]Brick Station! Here to solve your brickable needs! BOOTLOADERS AVAILABLE!!!". I'm not even sure anymore why I felt I needed to use that method but before I followed those steps my SGP would only go into download mode and CWM. I flashed roms and kernels using odin and it said pass...reset. I even restored an old backup but no matter what I did it always rebooted back into CWM. I followed the brick station steps but not the un-resurrectable part because my problem wasn't that extreme but after following through with those steps I now have a device that requires the un-resurrectable method but now I know that it's only for the 5.0. When I connect my device to my laptop it makes a sound like there is some life but nothing pops up...turns on or flashes. I even used a usb jig to try and get it to download mode but nothing at all.
Thank you guys for the help.
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I have done the samething. I food get it going. Is this a US model.
Samsung Epic 4G Touch on xda premium
tim1089 said:
I have done the samething. I food get it going. Is this a US model.
Samsung Epic 4G Touch on xda premium
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Yes it's the U.S model
Have you tried this ?http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531850. So what I gather is you can get to the download mode. If you can then you can fix it. The link I posted here is a good place to get everything you need. Use Hemidall method this was the only way to fix it. I had no luck with Odin. If your PC is not seeing your player go into device manager and remove everything under universal USB. after that click on the action menu and scan for new hardware. It will reinstall the usb stuff. reboot PC. Then get the samsung USB drivers install them. Next if you correctly installed hemidall it should work and see your deivice. Read the info ib this link carefully pick the right player. Down load the PIT file for your player. Then in hemidall install the partitions in the correct order as in the instruction. Let me know if this helps or if I can help you more
Made any progress, fresh85?
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Made any progress, fresh85?
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No progress with getting my SGP working. I don't think I'm explaining my problem correctly because people are telling me to follow the steps that got me to this point lol but all the help is appreciated.
If you press and hold POWER + VOLUME DOWN for about 10 ~ 15 seconds, do you see a screen with a yellow construction-like sign appear? If so, you are in download mode, and that is a good thing. Try it and let me know.
Nope nothing turns on at all. I dont think its a complete brick yet because i get a beep sound from the computer when i connect it but no signs of life on the device.
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I was wondering if there has been a way for the Verizon Note 2 users to replace their custom recovery with the Android Stock Recovery to receive OTA's? Similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VVyQRdsnaA
Thanks
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I was wondering if there has been a way for the Verizon Note 2 users to replace their custom recovery with the Android Stock Recovery to receive OTA's? Similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VVyQRdsnaA
Thanks
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Visit this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107738. Under the section boldly labeled Here's the bottom line up-front.....flash the stock pit file and the updated bootloader baseline file. Place the pit file in the PIT section of ODIN and the bootloader baseline file in the PDA section and flash them at the same time. This should restore the stock recovery.
Thanks. I'll give it a shot when I need it again. I ended up just restoring the phone entirely.
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andrewjt19 said:
Thanks. I'll give it a shot when I need it again. I ended up just restoring the phone entirely.
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How did you do the restore? Thanks.
universexda said:
How did you do the restore? Thanks.
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It's simple. check out the guide by imnuts here
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/37372-[ODIN][VRALJB]-Restore-to-Stock
[ODIN][VRALJB] Restore to Stock
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universexda said:
How did you do the restore? Thanks.
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i told you how to do the restore...damn i swear some folks around here are hard headed.
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i told you how to do the restore...damn i swear some folks around here are hard headed.
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If you think I'm not going to seek out other people's experience and rely only on your word or your guide as gospel you don't what real computer/phone engineering is about and you don't know me.
Elsewhere I asked you if you have an unlocked bootloader and you flashed the alternate restore file which leaves you bootloader unlocked if running the VRALL4 OTA would successfully relock the bootloader or cause a problem. Would you answer that question, give it your best shot, or simply say you don't know, which are all part of a scientific process.
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If you think I'm not going to seek out other people's experience and rely only on your word or your guide as gospel you don't what real computer/phone engineering is about and you don't know me.
Elsewhere I asked you a pertinent question that is not covered in your guide. If you're really about understanding and spreading the knowledge and not simply trying to avoid the question and make people think you know it all, then you'll answer the question, give it the best shot you can, or simply say you don't know, which are all part a scientific process.
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Let me help you out. You can keep asking and you're going to get the same answer or you're gonna get the wrong answer. His guide is not gospel as you put it, but it is the best, most accurate and easiest guide (that's why the mods decided to stickie it).
Also, I've directed countless people to his guide here and the s3 section to unbrick their phones and guess what it works every time. So you can keep your phone in the state it is and keep flooding the forum with the same question and get the answers I mentioned earlier.
Finally what is part of the scientific process? And what's this question you asked? I just read through your posts and I see questions that were answered in his guide which he then answered again for you. By the way you do realize his work is a guide to help new people with their phone. Not a comprehensive faqs thread.
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I edited my response to him and laid out a detailed question I have based upon reading his guide, and many posts here. It pertains to relocking the bootloader. If you, he or someone else can answer it I'd appreciate it.
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I edited my response to him and laid out a detailed question I have based upon reading his guide, and many posts here. It pertains to relocking the bootloader. If you, he or someone else can answer it I'd appreciate it.
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He answered that for you already, but I'll go into more details. The problem is not OTA with unlocked. It's a custom recovery and OTA. The OTA contains a boot loader theat overwrites your unlocked boot loader without a problem. It does not have a recovery so you keep your custom recovery and get a locked boot loader which equals unauthorized message.
The alternate restore gives you a stock recovery back. The only thing it doesn't restore to stock is the boot loader. So restore+OTA=full locked stock
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He answered that for you already, but I'll go into more details. The problem is not OTA with unlocked. It's a custom recovery and OTA. The OTA contains a boot loader theat overwrites your unlocked boot loader without a problem. It does not have a recovery so you keep your custom recovery and get a locked boot loader which equals unauthorized message.
The alternate restore gives you a stock recovery back. The only thing it doesn't restore to stock is the boot loader. So restore+OTA=full locked stock
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Thanks for the answer.
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He answered that for you already, but I'll go into more details. The problem is not OTA with unlocked. It's a custom recovery and OTA. The OTA contains a boot loader theat overwrites your unlocked boot loader without a problem. It does not have a recovery so you keep your custom recovery and get a locked boot loader which equals unauthorized message.
The alternate restore gives you a stock recovery back. The only thing it doesn't restore to stock is the boot loader. So restore+OTA=full locked stock
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THIS!!!!!!!
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If you think I'm not going to seek out other people's experience and rely only on your word or your guide as gospel you don't what real computer/phone engineering is about and you don't know me.
Elsewhere I asked you if you have an unlocked bootloader and you flashed the alternate restore file which leaves you bootloader unlocked if running the VRALL4 OTA would successfully relock the bootloader or cause a problem. If you're really about understanding and spreading the knowledge and not simply trying to avoid the question and make people think you know it all, then you'll answer the question, give it your best shot, or simply say you don't know, which are all part a scientific process. But avoiding a response and crude blustering are bs.
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i didnt avoid any question...i answered it plain and simple. yea i dont know anything, boy you got me there lmfao.
on a side note i didnt provide a full detailed explanation because kwintofan and myself have answered that question countless times. a bit of resesrch on your end should of easily answered your question. dont get butt hurt its just the internet
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THIS!!!!!!!
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i didnt avoid any question...i answered it plain and simple. yea i dont know anything, boy you got me there lmfao.
on a side note i didnt provide a full detailed explanation because kwintofan and myself have answered that question countless times. a bit of resesrch on your end should of easily answered your question. dont get butt hurt its just the internet
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It's silly to get wound up because people don't just accept your guide and advice right off the bat. If you were really about knowledge and not your ego you wouldn't have a problem with people attempting to verify what you have to say.
Notably, your response to me in your guide thread that "no people had problems with ota when using a custom recovery" conflicts with kintwofan's response that "The problem is not OTA with unlocked. It's a custom recovery and OTA." But above you just endorsed what kintwofan had to say. So despite your vein popping crudeness my question remains unresolved between what the 2 of you say.
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Don't get your panties in a bunch because people don't accept your guide and advice at face value. If you were really about knowledge and not your ego you wouldn't have a problem with people attempting to verify what you have to say.
Notably, your response to me in your guide thread that "no people had problems with ota when using a custom recovery" conflicts with kintwofan's response that "The problem is not OTA with unlocked. It's a custom recovery and OTA." But above you just endorsed what kintwofan had to say. So despite your vein popping crudeness my question remains unresolved between what the 2 of you say.
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Our answers are the same. He said no to having a problem taking the ota and being unlocked then continued to say the problem was a custom recovery. I guess he just forgot the period in there.
And this is getting old. If you were really all about knowledge you would take his answer and research why instead of wanting to be soon fed the information. You would have also just searched for the multiple people that have went to his guides and fixed their phone to verify if they were legit.
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Our answers are the same. He said no to having a problem taking the ota and being unlocked then continued to say the problem was a custom recovery. I guess he just forgot the period in there.
And this is getting old. If you were really all about knowledge you would take his answer and research why instead of wanting to be soon fed the information. You would have also just searched for the multiple people that have went to his guides and fixed their phone to verify if they were legit.
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I don't see where droidstyle says it's recovery that would cause a problem with the OTA and not the bootloader.
Verifying with others is precisely what I've been doing. The thing is that droidstyle has jumped in peevishly to assert that I should just accept what his guide says and not ask anyone else about it at all. Problem is that his guide doesn't explicitly address my question. And secondly it makes sense to verify procedures with others before relying on what could be a hundreds of dollars mistake.
Appreciate both you and him when you address the issue. It's not old to me when there are discrepancies in what's being said. I've researched the issue by reading all relevant threads here since the vrall4 jailbreak and still my question has not been consistently answered. I advise you both to ignore my questions/research on this matter in the future as it appears you've already contributed what you can.
no. People had problems with ota when using a custom recovery.
There I'll add the punctuation from his quote now you can see that we agree. My point was not to keep asking, but to actually research. You know look at what's in the ota and what causes the unauthorized message. Then take that info and formulate a hypothesis and test it. You know the scientific method you like.
Also don't worry I won't answer you're further questions.
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I don't see where droidstyle says it's recovery that would cause a problem with the OTA and not the bootloader.
Verifying with others is precisely what I've been doing. The thing is that droidstyle has jumped in peevishly to assert that I should just accept what his guide says and not ask anyone else about it at all. Problem is that his guide doesn't explicitly address my question. And secondly it makes sense to verify procedures with others before relying on what could be a hundreds of dollars mistake.
Appreciate both you and him when you address the issue. It's not old to me when there are discrepancies in what's being said. I've researched the issue by reading all relevant threads here since the vrall4 jailbreak and still my question has not been consistently answered. I advise you both to ignore my questions/research on this matter in the future as it appears you've already contributed what you can.
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i did say it was a recovery issue in my thread wher u initially asked...go back and read. then u might want to go back and read thru the guide again and you will see where i answered that question more than once. my guide is stickied for a reason...if you want other opinions thats fine, i could care less. i provided you with all the info necessary, your not going to get some magical answer....ill say it again.
odin stock vraljb(no bootloader version / alternate restore method). this will give you stock recovery back which will allow you to take the L4 OTA. then you will be on stock, locked, and bloated L4.... the bootlader being locked or unlocked will not effect anything OTA related. Having a custom recovery will cause the OTA to fail.
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It's silly to get wound up because people don't just accept your guide and advice right off the bat. If you were really about knowledge and not your ego you wouldn't have a problem with people attempting to verify what you have to say.
Notably, your response to me in your guide thread that "no people had problems with ota when using a custom recovery" conflicts with kintwofan's response that "The problem is not OTA with unlocked. It's a custom recovery and OTA." But above you just endorsed what kintwofan had to say. So despite your vein popping crudeness my question remains unresolved between what the 2 of you say.
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you obviously have a problem with comprehension...my panties are not in a bunch or wound up. i could give 2 ****s REALLY! you came into my thread asking my advice, then ignored me. then you proceed to take advice from new users that were not sure themselves. wow your scientific method is really panning out now.
note 2 bootloop
Ok next...i bought a note 2 verizon off someone and i know it was on 4.3.1 nd7 thats all i can remember i rooted kingroot then supersu me ok everything fine until i downloaded twrp app from playstore flashed twrp and what ever i did i went to boot into recovery thats it done deal no stock recovery only have download mode.Keeps saying firmare disrupted and verizon firmware wrong go to store and fix. Ive flashed some stock roms and tried flashing twrp through odin..whenever i do it does pass the flash and reboots right back to original stuck screen its says note 2 real fast then pops up to the bootloop screen any advice would be appretiated..lets help another android user out i need my phone back
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Ok next...i bought a note 2 verizon off someone and i know it was on 4.3.1 nd7 thats all i can remember i rooted kingroot then supersu me ok everything fine until i downloaded twrp app from playstore flashed twrp and what ever i did i went to boot into recovery thats it done deal no stock recovery only have download mode.Keeps saying firmare disrupted and verizon firmware wrong go to store and fix. Ive flashed some stock roms and tried flashing twrp through odin..whenever i do it does pass the flash and reboots right back to original stuck screen its says note 2 real fast then pops up to the bootloop screen any advice would be appretiated..lets help another android user out i need my phone back
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I did the same thing on my Note 2. I currently use the Note 4, but wanted to do some updates to my Note 2 and give it to my son. I just forgot about the locked bootloader, and I downloaded the TWRP app from the Play Store and flashed the 3.0 TWRP. Next boot gave me the "Unauthorized software" message. I've tried flashing stock firmware, and it succeeds, but since the bootloader is locked, I still get the "Unauthorized" message. I would also appreciate any help that can be offered to get the bootloader back to stock. I knew better, it had been a couple years since I messed with my Note 2. Thanks for any help.
Did you all try flashing the 4.4 stock firmware? Should work if you can find the file. I just can't seem to find it
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I felt the need to create a thread explaining things a bit better. Lets get started shall we!!
1) As most folks know the I605 Galaxy Note 2 shipped with a locked bootloader. This means you Can Not flash any custom roms/kernels/ or recoveries until you unlock the bootloader!! Failure to comply will result in a yellow triangle stating "unsupported software detected"!
2) If you flashed custom software on your device without unlocking, please refer to Section 1B of my GUIDE in development section. This will bring your device back up and running in stock condition!!
3) Now you can proceed to Adams latest "Jailbreak" thread for for rooting/unlocking/flashing a custom recovery. Make sure to only use the method that applies to the firmware/bootloader version that was previously on your device.
VRAMC3 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2272066
VRALL4 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118348
VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased this device within the first month of release, and never accepted a OTA, Do Not use this link).
4) And last of all, folks never accept any OTA's!! There is no reason to!! Now that your device has been rooted, unlocked, and running twrp recovery, you can now download any latest update.zip from the dev section and flash in recovery. The Devs here are always fast at packaging up the OTA into a zip format so we can update via cwm or twrp recovery. There are a couple reasons why I prefer this method,
1. Future OTA updates may relock the device permanently! There is no gurantee a unlock method will be achieved for the next OTA.
2. .Zip roms are normally smaller, so they take less time to download and imo are easier to install.
3. OTA's can sometimes fail and soft brick the device.
So please read through this thread thoroughly and remember research twice, flash once! Hopefully this helps...:good:
**Also Note the VRUEMJ9 4.3 OTA update locked the bootloader and there is no current unlock method**
This was way overdue good work droidstyle
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kintwofan said:
This was way overdue good work droidstyle
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now if we can just get it stickied!!
Nicely done. Maybe it will help
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Nicely done. Maybe it will help
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Thx...yea hope so! figured it couldnt hurt anyway.
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now if we can just get it stickied!!
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I see no reason why it can't be.
Good job, just be sure to keep up to date with it. :good::highfive:
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I see no reason why it can't be.
Good job, just be sure to keep up to date with it. :good::highfive:
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will do :good:
Nice! Now let's hope people read it.
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Error while using Casual R311b
Noob here. Just got my Note II, on VRALL4
I am trying to unlock using the Adam's instructions to the letter (and viewing the instructional video), but I keep getting
ERROR: Protocol initialisation failed!Your device should be rebooting into Android now.
The phone stays in download mode and never reboots back into Android. I've tried different USB ports, installed the drivers from Samsung Kies (I uninstalled the Kies software after getting the drivers). Tried searching through the instructional thread, but couldn't find any concrete answers. Not sure what to try next.
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Noob here. Just got my Note II, on VRALL4
I am trying to unlock using the Adam's instructions to the letter (and viewing the instructional video), but I keep getting
ERROR: Protocol initialisation failed!Your device should be rebooting into Android now.
The phone stays in download mode and never reboots back into Android. I've tried different USB ports, installed the drivers from Samsung Kies (I uninstalled the Kies software after getting the drivers). Tried searching through the instructional thread, but couldn't find any concrete answers. Not sure what to try next.
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I haven't followed the new instructions yet, but have you tried manually turning your phone back on to see if it will just pick back up in the process?
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kintwofan said:
I haven't followed the new instructions yet, but have you tried manually turning your phone back on to see if it will just pick back up in the process?
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The only way to get my phone to boot back into Android is to disconnect the USB cable, pull the battery, and boot it. After removing the USB cable, Casual still shows "DEVICE CONNECTED".
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The only way to get my phone to boot back into Android is to disconnect the USB cable, pull the battery, and boot it. After removing the USB cable, Casual still shows "DEVICE CONNECTED".
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Thought it might. Did it do Odin for you if not make sure auto reboot is checked before starting.
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kintwofan said:
Thought it might. Did it do Odin for you if not make sure auto reboot is checked before starting.
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No, I don't believe this newest Casual uses Odin. It's just a(n almost) one-click solution. No checkboxes (see initial post in this thread for a link to the thread containing the new Casual).
Is there another way to root/unlock VRALL4? I'd be happy to try out more complex methods, as this doesn't seem to be working.
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No, I don't believe this newest Casual uses Odin. It's just a(n almost) one-click solution. No checkboxes (see initial post in this thread for a link to the thread containing the new Casual).
Is there another way to root/unlock VRALL4? I'd be happy to try out more complex methods, as this doesn't seem to be working.
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I know where the post is but haven't used it yet. No this is the only way, except maybe an older version of casual. Maybe someone who's used it will be by soon to help.
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yea the one click method seems to be having issues for some...maybe adam can put the other method back up until the kinks are worked out. sorry wish i could be of more help.
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Hi all..i recently tried to unlock the bootloader however did not know the file i used was not compatible with the latest OTA. When using ODin the phone fails at the sboot.bin...now i can still get into the ODin menu but thats it. Ive been reading several threads and the only solution Ive seen was that the device would get its data wiped. However I have many sentimental things on the device, would there be a way for me to recover all that data. I thought I had backed all files onto my sd card but not all the files got transferred. Any help or tips would be appreciated thank you
try using root66 from section 1a of my guide it does not wipe data.
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try using root66 from section 1a of my guide it does not wipe data.
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Thanks!:good: Will try this method and will post the results....I downloaded the root66 file but ODin is not recognizing the file so I'm not able to load it...
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RoNStiZz said:
Thanks!:good: Will try this method and will post the results....I downloaded the root66 file but ODin is not recognizing the file so I'm not able to load it...
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Alright so I realized i needed to extract the file, I did so followed directions and YES my phone is working again. Now I just need to run a recovery and hopefully everything will go back to how it was before i soft bricked my phone
RoNStiZz said:
Alright so I realized i needed to extract the file, I did so followed directions and YES my phone is working again. Now I just need to run a recovery and hopefully everything will go back to how it was before i soft bricked my phone
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Make sure you unlock first
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I have a vzw max and i recently reverted everything back to stock and unrooted; or so i believed. The kernel still says 3.4.10 etc. and the phone has no signal nor can it find my location. It keeps rebooting every 30 secs or so and no matter what mode I put the device into, it isn't recognized by my PC. the bootloader is locked and I am S-Off. This all happened after I tried to flash CWM's HTC M7 recovery because the Max isn't listed and I couldn't figure out how to flash TWRP. Help please because this is getting crazy and I can't figure out what to do...
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nobody at all eh...
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nobody at all eh...
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So if you boot to bootloader keeps rebooting there too?
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dude i feel for you.
why did you put m7 cwm on there. clearly not for this device.
can you still get to bootloader? if you can flash the correct recovery! then find a backup someone has done and restore. or flash the correct boot.img
dude here's the correct recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498749
Well the only problem is my any pc won't even detect that it's connected when I plug it into it. So I can't use any fastboot or adb methods and even when I put the phone into fastboot mode it doesn't connect either. I'm able to put it into bootloader mode and it doesn't reset but still no connection; just charges. I've tried flashing through stock recovery manually and it aborts every attempt I'm assuming because my BL is locked..
No it doesn't
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So if you boot to bootloader keeps rebooting there too?
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no it doesnt'
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no it doesnt'
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Ok. I know how we can fix then. Let me pm you
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Thanks
Dottat has helped me and not a moment too soon, I was seconds from printing out the return label for HTC and sending it in for a refurb exchange. smbh. thanks man.:good:
dottat said:
Ok. I know how we can fix then. Let me pm you
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hey mate, whats the secret sauce
Flashing the zip from bootloader ?
pradeepvizz said:
hey mate, whats the secret sauce
Flashing the zip from bootloader ?
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I agree, it would be nice for that stuff to be posted on here so we can all see it. And maybe not have to ask for help ourselves.
JBS976 said:
I agree, it would be nice for that stuff to be posted on here so we can all see it. And maybe not have to ask for help ourselves.
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haha, okay chill mate. i was kidding there.
i am guessing it was full flash of rom / kernel using the zip in the bootloader.
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haha, okay chill mate. i was kidding there.
i am guessing it was full flash of rom / kernel using the zip in the bootloader.
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That is correct, full flash from bootloader. 0P3PIMG.zip on root of sd. and boom with some pow.
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I agree, it would be nice for that stuff to be posted on here so we can all see it. And maybe not have to ask for help ourselves.
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I wasn't trying to hide anything. I typically will walk a user through using the encrypted RUU (my person preference as i know it's intact) to restore their phone as long as it can boot to bootloader. I take it offline because the mods didn't take kindly to the encrypted RUU being posted in the past. I don't have an answer as to why that was case so I just keep that part off the main threads. If its someone in need (like the OP) i have no problem helping one on one.
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I wasn't trying to hide anything. I typically will walk a user through using the encrypted RUU (my person preference as i know it's intact) to restore their phone as long as it can boot to bootloader. I take it offline because the mods didn't take kindly to the encrypted RUU being posted in the past. I don't have an answer as to why that was case so I just keep that part off the main threads. If its someone in need (like the OP) i have no problem helping one on one.
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It's cool, I didn't mean it to sound like anything was being hidden, I just like to read all this stuff and take it in for future reference as I don't want to bother you guys unless I just cannot figure it out on my own. Believe me i really appreciate all you guys do on here as this is an invaluable resource if people take the time to read through things. I was unaware that they didn't want the RUU's on here which really sucks because they are nice to have like I had them for the rezound and it came in real handy at times. Not having them for this device yet has been one of the reasons I have been hesitant to do much else than to S-OFF and root. At this point I guess I am waiting for the OTA Kit Kat update then I will probably dive in.
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It's cool, I didn't mean it to sound like anything was being hidden, I just like to read all this stuff and take it in for future reference as I don't want to bother you guys unless I just cannot figure it out on my own. Believe me i really appreciate all you guys do on here as this is an invaluable resource if people take the time to read through things. I was unaware that they didn't want the RUU's on here which really sucks because they are nice to have like I had them for the rezound and it came in real handy at times. Not having them for this device yet has been one of the reasons I have been hesitant to do much else than to S-OFF and root. At this point I guess I am waiting for the OTA Kit Kat update then I will probably dive in.
Bryon
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Check your pm shortly. S-off later today ?
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