Jellybean is terrible IMO. USB debugging is always automatically enabled even though I repeatedly turn it off, even if I turn off developer mode it still turns on. My wifi keeps turning on even though I turn it off and disable the sprint connections optimizer. My 3g keeps dropping (never did before the update).....Not to mention a handful of other bugs that I just dont want to deal with. It was clearly rushed and full of bugs. Newer is not always better.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for going back to ICS?
Flash an ics rom
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My 3G is continuously dropping as well and it's beginning to really upset me.
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make sure your AUTOMATIC CONNECTIONS are disabled. this is a ****ty thing (imo) that sprint is putting on phones. it will always search for the best 3g, lte, and wifi signal. in doing such it sometimes will drop and then not reconnect always. i work at a service and repair center and you would be suprised how often we just turn that "feature" off and peoples phones work a lot better.
Jellybean does not suck. Please understand the difference between Sense plus carrier bloat and a pure OS experience. That's like saying Windows is horrible because HP put a virus before shipping the PC. Just wanted to make this clear for anyone stumbling here in the future to know why you said what you said.
Now, I had the same problem (just flashed the update to test it out, went back to CM10 right away) but try what schnergun said, it worked for me.
well IMO jellybean sucks for me.
Is there a stock 2.13.651.1 .ruu somewhere I can run to downgrade?
Firehawk_1066 said:
well IMO jellybean sucks for me.
Is there a stock 2.13.651.1 .ruu somewhere I can run to downgrade?
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Go buy a new phone and switch to Verizon
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This update is the best thing that has ever happened to my phone. It's running smoothly, battery life is amazing and I don't find any annoyances within the ROM (after I removed all the bloat).
Theres a Q and A section where this should be... because its a question.
I'm not having any of those problems. How did you update? Less crying and more information on how you got the update and maybe someone can help you.
I'm assuming you were stock, unrooted and took the ota?
Thread moved to Q&A.
It sounds like you may have flashed over top of a custom ROM, did you try wiping to see if that fixes it for you?
I like jelly bean,,,,thats all i gotta say bout thaaat
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Hard Reset, Fixed
funcrusher said:
I'm not having any of those problems. How did you update? Less crying and more information on how you got the update and maybe someone can help you.
I'm assuming you were stock, unrooted and took the ota?
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Yup...stock, unrooted and took OTA. Honestly I just want to go back to ICS. Can someone tell me if there is a way for me to go back to stock ICS and how to go about doing that?
I found a ruu but I keep getting the error 140 bootloader version error> Does that mean I need to unlock my bootloader in order for me to be able to downgrade?
Just do an HTC dev unlock don't worry about rooting the stock rom, once you are dev unlocked flash a recovery and flash a rom. Who cares about rooting the new rom if you are just going to flash an ics build anyway. I would still try hard resetting first.
Firehawk_1066 said:
well IMO jellybean sucks for me.
Is there a stock 2.13.651.1 .ruu somewhere I can run to downgrade?
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You mean Sense sucks? This isn't "Android". This is "based on Android". Just saying... try CM10 and then say you don't like Jellybean. This is why Android gets a black eye sometimes - these companies think they know better than Google. Ha.
If the icon for USB Debugging is bugging you that much, just add this to your build.prop file:
persist.adb.notify=0
It will leave USB Debugging enabled but not tell you about it when your USB cable is plugged in.
Firehawk_1066 said:
Yup...stock, unrooted and took OTA. Honestly I just want to go back to ICS. Can someone tell me if there is a way for me to go back to stock ICS and how to go about doing that?
I found a ruu but I keep getting the error 140 bootloader version error> Does that mean I need to unlock my bootloader in order for me to be able to downgrade?
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You cant go back... You are stuck with jellybean unless you unlock the bootloader and flash an ics rom... Thats one of the good things about having an S-OFF device
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You cant go back... You are stuck with jellybean unless you unlock the bootloader and flash an ics rom... Thats one of the good things about having an S-OFF device
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This right here ^^
Exactly the reason that I never update my phones anymore until a rooting and S-OFF method is found.
Is this thread a joke? JB sucks??.. lmao..obviously someone didn't know what they are doing :-X
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hello, with last night gingerbread leak many of us unrooted users or myself a rooted user who was to lazy to download the rooted verison because the download link was broken. are now stuck with know way of going back. now not everyone cares about beeing stuck but my self and others miss out of the option to root i personaly miss my bamf asop rom that i was falling in love with. from what i gather we are in a holding pattern at the moment i was wondering if any of the great devs over here had attempted or mad any progess in rooting this last leak or if we have found a method to role back to mr2 so we could root that. any insight would be appricated
Didn't alpharev and unrevoked just release a new method that works with the tbolt? I know they released its a beta, but it works on the inc2 with gb
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i dont think that will work for the tbolt
Before saying it won't work on TBolt try it out. Also I believe it does work. I'm not sure if it will work with this new leak but it works on the TBolt from what I've seen.
i do apolgize the post went out before it was finished and because im new to this fourm i have to wait 5mins before making any changes. i would love to try it its worth a shot can someone post me a link and ill report back if it works
this is exactly why i do not install leaked radios or leaked shipped ruu's.
I know it works on the Inc 2 and I'm almost positive that it included the tbolt in the list of devices when your downloading the beta code. It allows you to root the shipped gb on the Inc 2, may work on this version of gb as well.
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just trade your TBolt for an LG Revolution. everyone says that one's the best.
Just go over to the Inc 2 forum here on xda and in general section there should be a thread about rooting gb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219246
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ok i think i can see the light next issue when i download the program and run it the screen just shows for a second and then goes away is there any other way to get the serial number because it does look like this will work
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ok i think i can see the light next issue when i download the program and run it the screen just shows for a second and then goes away is there any other way to get the serial number because it does look like this will work
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The Revolution and AlphaRevX sites appear to be down for the time being, so even if it does work, it won't without being able to obtain a key for the beta release through the website.
Assuming you still have S-off and a recovery, i.e. you didn't flash the RUU, all hope isn't lost. However if you did, I'm glad I'm not you at the moment.
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The Revolution and AlphaRevX sites appear to be down for the time being, so even if it does work, it won't without being able to obtain a key for the beta release through the website.
Assuming you still have S-off and a recovery, i.e. you didn't flash the RUU, all hope isn't lost. However if you did, I'm glad I'm not you at the moment.
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no stupid me did not wait for the download to be fixed flashed the ruu. and am stuck with s on and sense
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ok i think i can see the light next issue when i download the program and run it the screen just shows for a second and then goes away is there any other way to get the serial number because it does look like this will work
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Isn't it under the battery or on the back cover? Or somewhere in settings, about?
Were you able to get a beta key?
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kallyjk said:
Isn't it under the battery or on the back cover? Or somewhere in settings, about?
Were you able to get a beta key?
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i found the serial number in the about section and it spit out a beta key were do i go from there
rooting on gingerbread is pretty much the same process as before, just subbing out psneuter for fr3vo.
I GOT ROOT WOHO thanks to all xda is a amazing place
This is why I would encourage everyone who is rooted to install that hard patched hboot in the dev forum and this problem wouldn't exist. Also not flashing RUUs carelessly Helps but I digress. The only problem with the patched hboot is getting back to s-on is a bit harder. You have to use fastboot with a special command to flash an s-on hboot. Personally I think everyone who is rooted should learn how to use fastboot and ADB anyway but once again digressing. (prob not a real word LOL)
As far as fixing the issue hopefully the Revolutionary tool will still work on that build just have to check the hboot version. If not, as stated previously replacing psnueter with frEVO in the original downgrade process should work.
Edit: sorry a little late I suppose.
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Glad this all worked out for you Yoda, you sounded pretty peeved over at AC Hope you learned a lesson!
Wow, glad you got it fixed. At least now you'll know to be more patient in the future ;-)
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If "No", please let us know why you chose to hold off, and if/when you plan to upgrade to the leak/ and or OTA.
I will start.
I chose not to upgrade yet.
Mainly because, if anyone reading this was around during the Eris, 2.1 leaked fiasco, you will understand my new and improved policy of waiting at least 3 full days on anything leaked.
Anyway, I also am holding out because
1) Joelz (I hope) will be making a patch for us folk who are waiting.
2) I have been getting better batt life on GB
3) hasn't been 3 days yet.. but now that the firmware is out, I may be editing this post in a couple days.
Reminds me of the 3 day rule for not calling a chick after you get her number. HAH!
I went ahead and updated....we'll see how this goes.
I just upgraded to CleanROM 3.7, so I'm going to wait for the official release of ICS before I flash a next ROM.
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I voted No... ICS is not that big of a deal for me. My phone is #1 a business tool and having it work is more important that how it looks. That being said, I am quite content right now with GB, how the device looks and works. Battery life is acceptable and I can use all of the tools I need to use. It is one very AWESOME phone as it is right now.
This might change if I see a lot of users using it without a lot of issues, but I might just wait until the Official OTA arrives.
There are more things to life than ICS....
Never ending... after the masses gets ICS they will want JB and then they will demand KLP.... it never ends.
I did almost bricked in the process as well
But all in all I say its worth it. We atleast have a method to downgrade the hboot if needed
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I am holding off until I see there are no issues AND there is a way to get back to stock GB via Ruu in the crazy case I need to return to Verizon.
They may not check much but I'd rather be safe since 4.0 is noticeably different.
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ericsignals said:
I am holding off until I see there are no issues AND there is a way to get back to stock GB via Ruu in the crazy case I need to return to Verizon.
They may not check much but I'd rather be safe since 4.0 is noticeably different.
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You can ruu back with the mainver fix
Unless you haven't unlocked it yet
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Nope still on GB. when the ota comes and custom kernels for ICS ill take the plunge. Still hoping for cm9 as well.
I have upgraded but I'm having trouble with the service.
Phone keeps telling me to insert a sim card when I already have one...
Just saw in Scotts ics thread you can't go back to Gingerbread after Ics ruu (he even updated his op).....so I will be holding off....at least until gets proven otherwise
Edit: now Scott is saying you can go back but there's a sd issue...however he said there is a fix....
so looks like I will keep on waiting for everyone else to be the guinea pigs lol
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I didn't vote because there's no option for "I'm on the second ICS leak and waiting for more ROMs to be based off of the third leak".
I just hope there will be a Rom that doesn't require the ics ruu as a prerequisite.
I am sure those of us with our tin foil hats would really appreciate it.
Also I can only imagine the forums whenever the official release comes and by chance it doesn't play nice with the leak.
Looks like gb for me, unless there's a Rom that doesn't require this leak. Guess time will tell...hopefully everything works out for everyone but I will just err on the cautious side.
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I voted "no", though it is tempting, but its still early development.
brando56894 said:
I didn't vote because there's no option for "I'm on the second ICS leak and waiting for more ROMs to be based off of the third leak".
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lol i was just messin around on the polls. please vote
andybones said:
I will start.
I chose not to upgrade yet.
Mainly because, if anyone reading this was around during the Eris, 2.1 leaked fiasco, you will understand my new and improved policy of waiting at least 3 full days on anything leaked.
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That was the worst.. What was it? something like a few days after the 2.1 leak had been out, root was attained (but only if you hadn't installed the leaked firmware)?
Anyways, I installed the newer firmware despite all this. I have confidence the Dev section here will carry us through any issues that arise
I did last night. Scary but easy. Clean Rom 4.0 seems absolutely flawless this far. Battery is great. Stopped using extended battery its so good lol.
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new firmware
I got the AndroidPolice all-stock zip of the new VZN ICS. Experimented all day with it including the TAMPERERED warning, and other stuff. Found out that when 100% bone stock, the new ICS will allow you to freeze/eliminate all the things I don't use, like VZN Navigator, Twitter, Trneds, NFLMobile, Lets Golf,Hot Pursuit, Freindstream, etc. So, I am ReLocked, and stock and happy because a bunch of bloaty things don't start and can't be seen in the app drawer. Bottom Line: the new ICS is gonna be so great, some folks won't have to unlock to get exactly what they want. Warning: if you check it out, getting back to GB isn't impossible, but it's a hassle.
fo0you said:
That was the worst.. What was it? something like a few days after the 2.1 leak had been out, root was attained (but only if you hadn't installed the leaked firmware)?
Anyways, I installed the newer firmware despite all this. I have confidence the Dev section here will carry us through any issues that arise
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Yessir, no root was for me. lol, after about a week, I ended up calling CS and getting a refurb, they said nothing about the phone being on a leak lol.
i would rather wait a get the official OTA firmware. rather than some leaked ****.
ive got a feeling the 605.5 update was the update we were supposed to get, but maybe vzw decided on holding on to it till they can patch the current s-off exploit.
call me cynical but coming from a droid x and i remember these type of things happening before with moto and vzw...to the point where devs waited for a new update before revealing how to get root or run cm9 using the 2nd init...
perhaps we should have waited for ics to drop first before unveiling s-off...
It was gonna be launched on other phones regardless.
I highly doubt it..we are a minority to the rest of verizon rezound users...so i doubt they would postpone it....but i can be wrong with some of big reds past behaviors
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My worst fear about it is that it is worse than the newest (5/7) leak and has S-OFF patched with hboot 2.26 or something. So people on the official track are screwed.
Hopefully that doesn't happen though.
just saying vzw is not above going all out against the dev community...even the gnex updates are subject to verizons approval even though the carriers were supposed to be cut out of the loop...vzw does not like anything they dont get money from that they could be charging for...extra functionality w/ no money=evil bad murder kill to them
it's more likely that verizon postponed it for a business reason, like waiting for the inc 4g to drop. it's a flagship device and they're going to want it to be the first HTC with ICS.
exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
Even if the OTA patches the S Off exploit, then we just don't take the OTA, and wait for our devs to use the OTA as the base for their ROMs.....that's how we used to do things on the OG EVO. Once you're rooted, you never, ever, took an OTA. I don't even think they could turn the security flag back on with an OTA update if they wanted to, but I'm not sure. I'm sure there's someone far more knowledgeable who can confirm or deny the truth of that.
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exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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putney1477 said:
What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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Yes...absolutely! You don't need to flash separate radios and kernels if you don't want. You should do it now just in case...
if youre not comfortable with s-off then dont do it...as im sure htc will not revoke our ability to unlock the bootloader, and you dont need s-off to gain root...im just wondering for those of us that have s-off if we just made it harder for ourselves by unveiling the s-off method before we had the official ics and source... but as tspderek said, it may have just been a decision to sell a few more of the newer phones
putney1477 said:
What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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I would get it done now. There's a chance, albeit small, that HTC patches the new HBOOT to block the exploit. Considering the steps we take to get S OFF, I'd doubt it though.
I understand people wanting to wait todo SOFF or being a little scared of the risks but i don't think anyone should be waiting or worried at this.
The SOFF method has been out for a while now, and alot of successful runs, with alot of troubleshoot threads, solutions - why be scared and wait? Id say just do it. Its running great for everyone whos done it and it gives you way more options with your device if you need to switch between firmware at this time. Why restrict yourself ?
Definitely s-off.
no reason not to.
Especially if you are still on the stock GB OTA release. It took me all of 3 minutes... start to finish. I'll even mail you my wire-trick wire if you need it
no. you need a blank sd card, that's all. when i did s-off i popped in my sd card, started the process, got it on the first go, installed the juopunutbear hboot, flashed recovery, and booted right back into my rom.
gamerdad09 said:
Doesn't S-OFF require you to unlock the bootloader, and by unlocking the bootloader format your phone?
I'm completely stock without root and having to re-setup my phone is one of the main reasons I have not done the S-OFF yet.
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yes, you must unlock your bootloader... and root your phone (via installing amonRA recovery is easiest)
then you are ready to s-off.
I was stock GB phone, I unlocked/rooted and s-off'd it didn't take long at all.
yes you'll have to re-set up some things on your phone, but that's ok, you'll be fresh! All my important stuff is sync'd with google so I'm pretty rapid at wiping and starting from scratch. The benefits after doing this will far outdo any inconvenience of setting your phone up again. You can run a nandroid backup after you flash amonRA before doing s-off as well if you want, but the unlock procedure does give you a wipe unfortunately :-\ use Titanium Backup for your apps if you want to keep specific data about them, otherwise just re-install after you get setup again.
s-offing with a stock GingerBread phone is easy and fast.
Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
It's both hardware and software dependent IIRC
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Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
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This. But I think the exploit is both hardware and software, so theoretically they could patch the software side, if they cared enough to.
For new users, just my advice, worrying about this is pointless, it's kinda like us making threads that say next summer gas will be $7 a gallon (or $6 liter) and you keep yourself awake at night worrying about the "what ifs".
I'm on the fence here guys and need some either reassurance or confirmation of my fears/concerns.
Let me start by saying i'm borderline pissed off that I pay for a Sprint contract and yet VM is getting ICS possibly far before Sprints EVO 3d...This is a large driving force behind wanting to root.
So anyways here are my concerns..
-It's a VM build...does this cause adverse affects?? Lower priority?? ETC??
-I Roam most of the time and use a custom PRL. Is this possible with the ICS ROMS??
-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS. I'm not including app incompatibility here...more or less saying everything working that would work if we had an official ICS release.
Additional questions..not really concerns..
-Is there any roms currently with Sense 4.0 that are fully functional as This would be nice considering we'll never see it officially.
-Can I get better performance??
Lastly, If I do decide to root where do I start...I see tutorials but they say from hboot such and such etc..however I have no idea what I have on my phone to know what tutorial to use...I just got it 2 months ago, and i've fully OTA updated it. I came from an optimus v to sprint evo 3d...I had my optimus rooted and had custom roms on it.
I say Root, but I always root my phones.
You need to find out what hboot you are on, take back cover off, remove battery, put battery back in, cover back on, then hold power and down volume rocker. You will get to a white screen and it will tell you which hboot you have. Since you say you have OTA updated, you are likely on 1.5.
You should go through the downgrade process to get you on 1.4 which will allow full s-off and be the simplest route for flashing firmware/ROM's.
I have been using the VM ICS leaks since they came out and the Dev's did their
thing on them and I haven't had anything not work. I am using MeanROM ICS and Mike keeps it updated pretty regularly.
Whatever you do, do not install the VM firmware file you may see posted. It is unnecessary and will likely cause issues.
There are no ROM's that have fully working Sense 4.0 + ICS + all other items(3D Wimax).
swilllx2p said:
-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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I do recommend you root. The custom roms beat the snot out of the stock.
As long as you use a Sense based ics Rom, everything works. I take 3d pics and video and just watched a 3d YouTube video just to check.
While they are not yet as refined as the Gb roms, everything works.
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Two biggest benefits of rooting regardless of the phone:
1) Full system backups in recovery.
2) The ability to remove all carrier crapware.
Now, there are several other benefits, such as upgrading to more updated ROMs that will eventually not be available for this phone (it will never officially receive Android 5.0 or Sense 4.0).
As for fully functional, I'm running the Booster Shot port with Sense 3.6. Silky smooth and fully functional, including 3D.
If you choose to root, fully read and understand the process so you don't brick your phone. Get your HBOOT versions (mentioned in a previous post in this thread) and root accordingly.
Definitely boost in performance even if you don't go with ICS. I compared my rooted 3d with my roomates 3d and my 3d runs so much faster it seems like it isn't even the same phone.
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I would recommend root, since you have a lot of options to choose different ROMs.
No Sense 4.0 ROM is working correctly. There are issues with 3d and with call drops, what is more important I think Anyway, most ROMs using Sense 3.6 run ok.
I also have the benefit of having daily contact with my rooted evo vs my girlfriends not rooted evo... Mine phone is way faster at everything.... Even before I went to meanrom ics....
The difference is night vs day...
If you really want to see the performance of your phone, the way it should be most definetly Root it.
I haven't done it myself but I'm 100% positive google will find you a list of benefits from obtaining root...
And btw even tho its a little weird and in beta my favorite thing about ics is google chrome... It's just an awesome phone browser, just what stands out in my mind atm.. ask me tomorrow and ill prolly say something different.
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If your on the fence, don't do it. If your going to commit to modding your phone, you have to know 100% what you're up against. For most, that's bricking your phone in a certain way so you can downgrade it. Than getting the hboot down through a tool in a LINUX distro. Than going through ruu than using revolutionary. And lastly flashing a recovery. It's not difficult
As long as you know what you are up against.
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My two cents:
Root it.
Backup your stock system, flash an ICS rom. If you don't like it, simply restore back to the original setting. You can still add tweaks and goodies not available to the non-rooted.
The beauty of being rooted is it's yours, totally yours, too make how you want it.
Root, root, root!
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another vote for root.
zcink said:
If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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exactly...every sense based rom is fully functional with 3d also...this is a one way street to root....root...backup your rom...flash...any chance you don't like you can always return to your previous state...unrooted...since there are no drawbacks except the fact that you have to setup all over again at a new rom, can't see a reason not to....with these guys here after all it's child play to root and to reverse it so no worries...
Jimlarck said:
What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
zcink said:
I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm only on sprint roms.
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm still debating this though mainly because i'm wondering if there would be benifit to waiting till the official spring ics comes and then letting devs release some roms based on that one instead of the virgin mobile one.
I'm thinking then we could flash the sprint firmware and possibly that updated firmware would be a plus, to performance.
Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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No performance hit as far as I can tell. With the custom roms, my performance has vastly improved.
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Ok, so I just checked and I'm on hboot 1.5. Fully stock, fully updated as stated. Can someone point me to the threads and steps I need to take to do this?
Edit: I'm only asking for verification on steps/threads to use as I do not want to mess up and use an outdated tutorial or something and f up my phone. I just want to take every precaution to ensure I do not end up with a brick, and I follow the exact steps Needed for my situation. Not trying to make anyone angry that I'm asking for something I could search for...I just trust you guys to point me to where i need to be more than i do myself searching the correct tutorial for my situation.
Also when on the optimus v i used clockwork mod recovery...I'm assuming this isn't the recovery to use for this phone? And also this five minute wait to edit my post is frustrationg >< lol.
All you need to do is go into the development threads and read. I'm 59 years old for Christ sake, and figured out how to root my phone by reading the first few "stickied" posts. Took all of 15 minutes to get hboot 1.5 removed and hboot 1.4 with s-off installed.
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Well yeah, Not to flame you but the amount of time you've been thinking about doing it and getting advise if you should or not, I would think you'd be doing some reading on how to do it.
If you get stuck, there's plenty of people to help you out.
Just make sure you know enough first so you are confident in doing it.
After upgrading to ICS I have been having some issues with my phone; Bluetooth needs to be cleared of data each time I want to pair a device, ringers and alerts don't sound, and the most recent and debilitating- the phone restarted twice by itself and now the sleep/wake button is unresponsive. Has anyone else experienced these issues? I've done factory resets once or twice since upgrading to ICS and it's really getting on my nerves.
-is it time to call it quits and just bring the phone to a service center?
-any insight into rolling back to gingerbread (on a Mac preferably)
Thanks guys!
Sorry to be "the jerk" post, but there are tons of threads out right now about problems on att's ics rom. And in the stickies is a good start to figuring out how to "roll back" to gingerbread. I've found that if you search and do the work yourself, how to do it will be 100x easier when u run into a future problem. Good luck man.
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Not to mention the fact that he factory reset the phone with stock kernel installed. Which has been known to completely hard brick our devices (its referred to as the emmc bug) make sure yo read folks! We don't want hard bricks on our hands
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Root phone and flash another kernel stock ics kernel bricks phone u should of been reading before posting factory/reset can brick your phone I'm just run a custom rom look for a stock one or something different that u might like
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Haha you're not being a jerk. I usually wold go searching through thread after thread but I didn't know if this was a unique problem. I know a TON of people are having issues with the IcS update though. I'd love to roll back the phone, but I'm nervous my phone will get bricked in the process....the official update did that and I was without a phone for a day or two until I magically got it to work. This it total BS.
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Haha you're not being a jerk. I usually wold go searching through thread after thread but I didn't know if this was a unique problem. I know a TON of people are having issues with the IcS update though. I'd love to roll back the phone, but I'm nervous my phone will get bricked in the process....the official update did that and I was without a phone for a day or two until I magically got it to work. This it total BS.
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Lol yeah, you should really look into other Roms if u wanna try out ICS. Stay away from Att stuff lol
Check this one out to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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Retry with another kernel ^^ good luck !
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Heimdall works on Macs , just noticed in the op u said u had one.
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