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Is it possible to overclock the HTC Hero's processor to past 528 mhZ? I've heard that it is slightly sluggish and i thought if it is possible, then this might solve the issue
First of all, its sluggish, when many applications an widgets run at the same time, thats ok for a MOBILE PHONE, Mobile phones do not have to be multitasking pros.
But yeah, i asked this myself too yesterday and googled about that, but found no real answer.
So, if theres a way to overclock the Magic's or Dream's CPU it should also be possible for the HERO! MY Hero in a few days in germany
the processor maxes out a 528
if u get it past that ur just damaging it...
just like overclocking a computer
the higher u go the more cooler power u need
mobile phones are not cooling geniuses lol
That doesnt exclude the possibility to overclock a mobile cpu, many people overclocked their HTC Herald CPU, like me from 198MHZ to 250MHZ, and it was perfekt.
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That doesnt exclude the possibility to overclock a mobile cpu, many people overclocked their HTC Herald CPU, like me from 198MHZ to 250MHZ, and it was perfekt.
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But if I remember correctly, just like the Dream/Magic, the Hero CPU runs the same MSM7200a proc. as the Dream/Magic which maxes out at 528Mhz. However, HTC has, for whatever the reason, underclocked them. It runs at 328Mhz max typically on the Dream (& i'm assuming this is the same on Magic).
We Dream/Magic users aren't really overclocking the CPU as much as just clocking it. I forget the exact parameter but in the beginning we just used a terminal command to set the cpu_scaling_freq (or something like that) to the max 528Mhz. Once root is gained on the Hero this should be easily accomplished there from the terminal or an app as well.
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That doesnt exclude the possibility to overclock a mobile cpu, many people overclocked their HTC Herald CPU, like me from 198MHZ to 250MHZ, and it was perfekt.
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The Herald just as my old Hermes ran OMAP processors, pretty easily tweaked.
No one has as of yet discovered a way to overclock a Qualcomm , and they have been round a good year or 2 now.
p.s.. Processors dont max out as such, they just overheat and burn!!!
Fact is, that before trying to do stuff like this you first need to gain root on the Hero.
And indeed like said before: The G1/Magic _underclock_ their CPU to save battery. Only in a few situations will it do it's job at 528mhz, otherwise it's 320-something mhz.
So when a G1/Magic user is telling they 'overclocked' their CPU, they just removed the underclock and it's running at the normal 528mhz for the MS7200.
Really _over_clocking it, by running it at like 650mhz or higher, I didn't see before.
PS: The slugginess is more a RAM and disk i/o thing than directly cpu-related.
thanks for all the info guys. so should i be worried about getting the phone, or do u think it won't be that bad?
No you shouldnt, i am waiting too for my hero to arrive. So can anyone tell, what it means to "root" android? why should i root my hero when i have it and what does it affect? thanks in advice.
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So can anyone tell, what it means to "root" android? why should i root my hero when i have it and what does it affect? thanks in advice.
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you become a superuser with more privileges and total control.
Thank you, now i understand. So how can we set the clockspeed to 528mhz permanentely?
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Thank you, now i understand. So how can we set the clockspeed to 528mhz permanentely?
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First off, we don't know if it's even needed. Maybe it's running on 528mhz already.
Second: You can't. Until the Hero is rooted nothing like this is possible, so getting 'root' access if first step in ANY kind of tweaking.
Ok, thanks. so lets wait till we hold our heroes in our hands to see at what speed it runs and hopefully be able to root the phone.
Have been using my Hero for a few days now - and don't really notice any speed issues that concern me.
Seconded.
I have a Hero and have for a couple of days on Orange, and have no qualms about the speed whatsoever.
HTC say the processor dynamically clocks up to the maximum 528MHz when needed, so unless you want to push it out of spec (if its even possible) - there's no need to set the clock. Leave it be
thats sounds reasuring, thank u for letting me know
to be honest i just bought mine yesterday
and its not terribly slow
ive read bout it and be careful we are talking bout reviewers and most review websites dont know a lot bout half of what the say
slow no
unresponsive no
a bit laggy yes
this phone is brilliant
and is quite speedy considering how much things you got on desktop
for anyone worried about the slow speed of the Hero, the firmware update fixes this. its soooooooooo much faster.
Bump, what spped is hero running on? I have mcr 3.1 installed and since we have root now............
AFAIK, the Hero runs at 528MHz when in use, but underclocks to ~300 when not in use (ie. screen off etc.) Really, in MCR3.1, you shouldn't be needing to overclock- it really flies. If not, did you do a wipe before install?
If not, I strongly recommend you do (back up data first!), as it made mine a lot faster and was worth the hassle!
Hey peeps,
Currently I'm in the possession of an HTC Sensation XE, but thinking about making the switch to the SGSII. However, some questions are still there and I was hoping that the helpful community here could help me answer some of these.
How is the Earphone quality? Anyone tried it with some decent pair of headphones yet and is able to tell me their experience?
Could someone with a "stock" SGSII (International model preferably) tell me about the gaming performance on the SGSII? I'm talking about games such as Dungeon Defenders, Wind-Up Knight and PSX/N64 Emulation. If entirely possible with a recorded video.
Same request above for a person who flashed a ROM
How does the SGSII perform with Tegra 2 games through Chain-something?
How is the battery life for both the "stock" SGSII and the Lite-ning ROM?
Could a person with a "stock" SGSII show me their benchmark scores after a reboot of the phone?
Same for a person running the Lite-ning ROM
The standard hardware acceleration which is present on the SGSII. Is the hardware acceleration only being applies to browsing and the UI? or also to applications and games?
In addition to the above questions, how will ICS affect the hardware acceleration on the SGSII? Will it be disabled in favor of the ICS style hardware acceleration or will they live together happily ever after?
My apologies for the kind of weird requests. But I do sincerely hope you guys can help me decide whether to get this device or stick with the Sensation XE.
Regards,
Vex
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Hey peeps,
Currently I'm in the possession of an HTC Sensation XE, but thinking about making the switch to the SGSII. However, some questions are still there and I was hoping that the helpful community here could help me answer some of these.
How is the Earphone quality? Anyone tried it with some decent pair of headphones yet and is able to tell me their experience?
Could someone with a "stock" SGSII (International model preferably) tell me about the gaming performance on the SGSII? I'm talking about games such as Dungeon Defenders, Wind-Up Knight and PSX/N64 Emulation. If entirely possible with a recorded video.
Same request above for a person who flashed a ROM
How does the SGSII perform with Tegra 2 games through Chain-something?
How is the battery life for both the "stock" SGSII and the Lite-ning ROM?
Could a person with a "stock" SGSII show me their benchmark scores after a reboot of the phone?
Same for a person running the Lite-ning ROM
The standard hardware acceleration which is present on the SGSII. Is the hardware acceleration only being applies to browsing and the UI? or also to applications and games?
In addition to the above questions, how will ICS affect the hardware acceleration on the SGSII? Will it be disabled in favor of the ICS style hardware acceleration or will they live together happily ever after?
My apologies for the kind of weird requests. But I do sincerely hope you guys can help me decide whether to get this device or stick with the Sensation XE.
Regards,
Vex
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Oh man, many questions and I can only give a few answers:
1. Earphone quality is IMO good. As I do not have a Sensation XE, I can not compare it directly. There are some tests (Google search is your friend ;-) which might give a more experience-based opinion.
2. + 3. + 4. Can't say much about gaming performance, as I am not a gambler.
5. I am running a stock ROM (XWKJ1, Android 2.3.5) and battery life is OK for me. With permanent wifi on, no bluetooth, no GPS, permanent Skype and Google Talk, some email, often internet news and looking into xda-developers forum, a nightly charged battery has about 50% in the evening. So, with less usage my phone could work for about two days.
There are many custom ROMs, which are specialized for optimizing battery life.
You have to set your priority between battery life and performance.
6. Benchmark scores ... which benchmark?
On Quadrant Standard, I usually have 3000-4000 with the stock ROMs.
My actual score is about 3400 as I am running CF-Root kernel XWKI8, which is not based on the real stock kernel of my ROM (XWKJ1).
But to have more than 4000 points in Quadrant, I think you have to use a custom ROM specialized for performance or at least overclock the CPU.
7. No custom ROM.
8. Good question. I think that hardware acceleration is in general available for any app too ... but ... if any app will use it, I really don't know. Each manufacturer ans even each phone has a different hardware and therefore need a different hardware acceleration, so that would be a very hard job for a developer to get familiar with all available hardware-specific APIs. At least the app of the manufacturer itself (=> Samsung) should use hardware acceleration.
But I am not sure about even this.
9. Hmm ... complicated question. I heard that the SGS2 or better the hardware of the SGS2 is 100% compatible with IceCreamSandwich. And that's it. I have got no more infos about this topic.
I will think about such issues just before getting ready for flashing ICS onto my SGS2. Hoping that there will be more and official statements up to this moment.
Regardless of the fact that you aren't able to answer all the questions, I really do appreciate your reply to these matters.
2 Days on battery, that's quite amazing seeing as my XE only lasted for about 8-10 hours on normal use with Wifi on.
Quadrant scores are also quite impressive, even at stock.
I really do hope that someone can clarify more on the amtter of ICS' hardware acceleration. I'm eager to find out how it differs from the acceleration currently present on the SGSII
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I'm on Androidmeda 2.5 with Siyahkernel 2.0. I can typically get about 4.5 to 5 hours of screen time.
It's my theory that the basic ROM itself shouldn't affect the battery life. It's the different init.d scripts of optimization and the kernel that will have *some* effect given that you don't OC/UC or OV/UV. Mostly it should be what apps you run in the background like facebook, skype, etc.
Also I find that having wifi and data always on doesn't affect my battery life too much if I disable background sync.
Thanks for that reply.
4-5 hours does seem a little meager though. Then again my Sensation lasted for about as long as that, if not less.
Eager to hear more opinions!
hey all, long time reader, first time poster. i have some questions in regards to overclocking your phone. whats the point? Im not trying to find the forum trolls, nor am I knocking the practice, im genuinely curious about the end result.
im a hardcore PC junkie, so im very familiar with the process, hell my desktop is currently overclocked by a 1ghz (AMD 965 BE @ 4.2ghz).
i have the HTC Evo 3d, best phone ive ever owned, and at first the idea of overclocking it was very interesting, but as i thought about it, the more it didnt make any sence. the phone already get warm when you start pushing it, especially when gaming, i can only imagine how hot it must get when you start upping the voltage to squeeze a extra couple hundred mhz out of it. also how much of a performance increase would you notice? the phone already, runs like butter in my opinion, i cant imagine a extra 100-200mhz would be noticable at all. it just seems like alot of work and risk for a almost a not noticable end result.
if im incorrect in any of my assumption, please correct me, lol even just saying that ive overclocked myr phone is awesome, im just looking for some valid reasons in favor of OCing
no one? lol i guess its not as widely done as i thought it was lol
I don't ever OC my phones for the simple reason that they are battery powered. But I understand why most people do it. Usually it is a good thing to have all the tools at your disposal for whenever you might need it. Most kernels that support OC are usually driven by apps such as SetCPU, which have options to have the CPU constantly OC'd or on-demand basis. If the user was to run a high demand app such as the video camera with a 1080p res, there be more processing power available for the app to accomplish whatever it needs in a less intensive manner.
that makes sense i suppose. having a quick launch app that allow on demand overclocking would be pretty cool. ill have to look into this a little bit further.. thx
The reason is simple - my phone is too slow.
I am using HTC Hero which is 2+ years old. The speed is so slow (528MHz), the machine lags even running the Dolphin browser. I recently root it and install a custom rom, overclock it to 6xx MHz. I feel my Hero has revived and I think it still can be used for a couple of months more.
Hi,
Hope this is posted in the correct place :fingers-crossed:
I own a Sammy Galaxy Nexus and have had a play with various kernels. The two that I have had the most success are Franco and Trinity. I have always been able to run the higher GPU speed with Franco's kernels(512) but don't have the same results with Trinity's 537MHz speeds. I can over clock with Trinity's 384 kernels, but when I try with the higher GPU speed, I can't go over 1190MHz.
Could it simply be the 25MHz on the GPU is enough for my phone to get cranky and freeze when it feels like it? I just find it hard to believe that with that extra 25 my phone completely changes and can't run on even a little over clocking....
Thoughts?
Is it coz I have posted this in the wrong section that there are no replies?
Swiped on my Gnex
Yeah, you should post in the Gnex forums, where other people have the same device and have more knowledge on it.
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OK thanks!
Swiped on my Gnex
Hello everyone!
Right, I bought my htc two days ago from o2 on PAYG off course, I did my own research about the phone and I was happy with the results soo, I bought it.
When I play a game like GTA 3 with a stock settings I get some sort of lag for some reasons, although I thought, because it had the Tegra 3 chip it should run any game without any problem.
The phone is 100% stock!
here is some info in my phone that might help;
Baseband: 3.1204.168.32
Build number: 1.17.206.1
Does anyone have similar problem with the HOX+?
Also, my signal drops sometimes and it does not regain for some reason unless I go to flight mode, ON then off, back to normal. I am with o2/giffgaff, any ideas?
Thanks for your help!:laugh:
AW: [Q] My htc one x+ is laggy while playing a game and signal drops?
There are some major discussions going on around the web regarding gaming performance of this device. Furthermore there are some gaming reviews foot it on you've and so on. They are easy to find if you really look. Just do another search.
But for now here s why:
Tegra 3 is a quite performant soc for a mobile device. But it does have some issues.
First is the bad optimization by game developers. Mostly it's Gameloft. They then to ignore the fact that they should optize their games for different platforms to get a enjoyable gaming experiance. Had been worse. ATM most games are playable.
Next problem is that the graphics processors clock speed is firmly linked to the clock the CPU is running. This means when games do demands little CPU performance GPU will also clock down leading to lags. This has been improved with custom kernel, game updates due to tegra optimizations and custom kernels and ROMs.
Last but not least is that the CPU tends to be running in single core. All in all this service does have a lot of power... Mostly a lot of still unused power but I'm confident devs will go on and improve the situation even more than they already have.
For GTA just lower the graphic settings a bit or try rennovate gaming fix.
For now the only games that are not running for me as they should are GTA iii with some minor lagging, nova 3 playable since latest updates but not enjoyable. And last but not least real racing 3 with most of the time 35+ fps but many drops below 20.
For signal drops: maybe it's bad reception in your area?
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Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
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Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
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no - send it to me
but you would be surprised what's possible if you use a different rom.
of course non-sense
the phone is good just HTC tends to cripple every device they release
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maxwen said:
no - send it to me
but you would be surprised what's possible if you use a different rom.
of course non-sense
the phone is good just HTC tends to cripple every device they release
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yeah I know but I dont want to risk anything yet! :crying:
all the android phones I had were a HTC like the desire, desire z, sensation xe and for now the one x +, I have rooted all of them without a problem but, this phone is still under warranty I would rather wait for an update then root the phone:silly:
THE_ said:
Thanks for the answer, I did look around before asking this question but, all I was getting was answers that make no sense!
Soo, as far as I understood is the game developers plus the kernel but, that sounds like the device was not ready for the market yet htc released it!
One more question! do you think the phone is worth keeping?
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I don't think you understood what he said. The main point was, the GPU base clock runs at a set frequency directly related to the current clock speed of the CPU. So games like GTA that require little resources from the CPU, do not utilize the GPU to it's fullest. There are some custom kernels that allow the GPU to run at it's max speed regardless of CPU useage.
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AndroHero said:
I don't think you understood what he said. The main point was, the GPU base clock runs at a set frequency directly related to the current clock speed of the CPU. So games like GTA that require little resources from the CPU, do not utilize the GPU to it's fullest. There are some custom kernels that allow the GPU to run at it's max speed regardless of CPU useage.
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Well, I did and thats why I rooted my phone to Viperx+. I am uing the Viber elitekernel but I am having a problem in setting up the max cpu frequency to 1700, its always stuck on 1150 for some reasons and yeah I am using venom tweaks, any idea?
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Well, I did and thats why I rooted my phone to Viperx+. I am uing the Viber elitekernel but I am having a problem in setting up the max cpu frequency to 1700, its always stuck on 1150 for some reasons and yeah I am using venom tweaks, any idea?
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The max Clock Speed is 1600mhz when using all 4 cores, you can only get to 1700mhz when running on a single core. Do you have power saver enabled? That limits CPU frequency.
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The max Clock Speed is 1600mhz when using all 4 cores, you can only get to 1700mhz when running on a single core. Do you have power saver enabled? That limits CPU frequency.
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I found out that the game was not fully optimized for the tigra 3 chip, soo I rooted the phone and used Viperx+ 1.06 rom so I can have more control then the stock rom. Now i can do alot of things like set min/max cpu clocks speeds and soo much more, buttery life is much better now (thanks to SetCPU!!:victory but yeah I knew in the end (after going throw alot of reviews) that phone will use 1.7GHz with the 5th core only!
Is there a way I can run 4 cores at 1.6GHz then running 1 core at 1.7GHz or, if I just set max cpu to 1.6GHz, then I will run the 4 cores?
I am using elitekernel for venom team.
No, I dont use power saver anymore!:laugh: