[Q] Root or boot from flash for games? - Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet

Hi, all!
I've bought Nook 8Gb tablets for my sons for Christmas.
The BIG requirement is the Nook runs Temple Run and Minecraft. That's why I need Android.
I bought the downloadable 8GB N2A card which boots into JB. Unfortunately, neither of the two apps I need will run!!
I've asked the vendor for the Gingerbread Version, hoping the apps will run there.
If my primary requirement is these games, would I be better off:
1. Rooting from SD card
2. Booting CMx from SD card
Or
3. Another method
I would love to hear your opinions!!!!

Your problem was that you bought something from someone that took the developers hard work and threw it on a card instead of learning how to do it yourself and donating to the developers that actually spent their precious time to figure everything out.
Also, both those games run on JB.
Now that you threw away money, read through the forums and put CM10 which is JB on EMMC. No need to run it from an SD card.
Sent from my NT running CM10

BoostedB18C said:
Your problem was that you bought something from someone that took the developers hard work and threw it on a card instead of learning how to do it yourself and donating to the developers that actually spent their precious time to figure everything out.
Also, both those games run on JB.
Now that you threw away money, read through the forums and put CM10 which is JB on EMMC. No need to run it from an SD card.
Sent from my NT running CM10
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Thanks for your reply. I think I will do just that. I assume EMMC means embedded memory card. Is that right? Could you direct me to a good starting thread?
Also, is there a downside to running on a bootable card? If performance is about the same, I may want to do that. I've read some B&N updates trash the rooted Android environment. Is that true?

BoostedB18C said:
Your problem was that you bought something from someone that took the developers hard work and threw it on a card instead of learning how to do it yourself and donating to the developers that actually spent their precious time to figure everything out.
Also, both those games run on JB.
Now that you threw away money, read through the forums and put CM10 which is JB on EMMC. No need to run it from an SD card.
Sent from my NT running CM10
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I appreciate all who contributed to getting pure Android on the NT. Thank you all. I wasn't aware of this forum until a day or so ago.

Honestly, search these forums. You need to read until you understand what is going on. Then when you try something and run into a problem it will be easier to figure out what to do. Not to mention, because you will have a better understanding, if something goes wrong it will be easier for you to explain what happened as well as for people to help.
Start with the stickies from the general forums. Like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20774737
Sent from my NT running CM10

Fbunn said:
I've read some B&N updates trash the rooted Android environment. Is that true?
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If you install a new rom, you will wipe out the B&N OS completely. No need to worry about their updates after that.
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liquidzoo said:
If you install a new rom, you will wipe out the B&N OS completely. No need to worry about their updates after that.
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Thanks, liquidzoo!

I've also started a thread similar to this. And it's picking up traction now.
See it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046376&page=3
First thing you need to do is root your Nook tablet, if haven't done so. Just follow liquidzoo's instructions (which is in his signature).

Just a note, I have cm10 (job) on internal storage and have no proble,ms with Temple Run. I don't know about the ND2 cards but I should think those games should run on them. I'd check on getting a refund if they're not working.
Good luck on rooting. I've had a blast since I started with my Nook!
Nikkiel
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Boot / run from SD, no install?

I have read that for the Nook devs have built systems that boot and run from the SD card without an install. I am curious if any of the devs has looked at this for the gtablet. Seems to me that this would be a solution to the entire 1.1/1.2 issue.
The only difference is a locked bootloader. 1.2 has no new functionality. You are locking your bootloader by choice when running 1.2. You can have everything that is in 1.2 by running 1.1 and you arent restricted to the stock kernel.
BTW....I think you should invest in an iPad
thebadfrog said:
BTW....I think you should invest in an iPad
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Not sure that was called for. "Get the f*** off my forum" doesn't help anyone.
I'm not familiar with nook modding but I'm not sure they are actually "running an OS off the SD card." I've never read anything that would be the equivalent of a bootable CD for android tablet/phone devices. It's probably a technical impossibility, which would be the reason badfrog here has dismissed you from the throne room.
brettdwagner said:
Not sure that was called for. "Get the f*** off my forum" doesn't help anyone.
I'm not familiar with nook modding but I'm not sure they are actually "running an OS off the SD card." I've never read anything that would be the equivalent of a bootable CD for android tablet/phone devices. It's probably a technical impossibility, which would be the reason badfrog here has dismissed you from the throne room.
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I am familiar with the nook and they ARE running an os off the external card. The GTab however doesnt have this ability.
I haven't told anyone to get out of the forums. I'm just recommending the iPad to everyone.
Now you may kiss my hand
Let's stay on topic and assist the OP in his questions and not descend into the dungeon, ok? Or else I may need to cut that hand off thebadfrog
Ah I see, "Get an iPad" isn't a slam. It's much more devious than I expected... Steve is that you?
Surprised to hear they are booting off an SD card with the nook, very interesting. Could have mentioned to the OP that this is an impossibility with the G-Tab.
Well I for one would love to see that functionality happen as it would open the door for other things. Imagine booting into Linux like a Live CD or Live USB, I'm dying to try one of Hexxeh's builds.
EL TEJANO said:
Well I for one would love to see that functionality happen as it would open the door for other things. Imagine booting into Linux like a Live CD or Live USB, I'm dying to try one of Hexxeh's builds.
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It isn't possible on the gTablet. The Nook has built-in the process to check the sdcard as a bootable device.... The simplest way to explain it is how some computer BIOS doesn't allow booting from the USB but others do.

[Q] Permanent Root for NT with CM7

I have a Nook Tablet 8gig that I rooted about 10 months ago with no problems. I have had no complaints so I have not mucked around with it, but now I am wondering about updating a bit. The issue is that I want to be able to use an external keryboard dock with my NT, and I read that it was only possible with CM7 (not sure if that means CM7 and above). I rooted the NT using the great instructions and files recommended in the developers thread, but to be honest I have no idea what my nook is rooted with- it works well so I have not messed with it.
I am essentially looking for instructions on how to re-root my NT after I re-set it to factory, or how to alter my current root to run CM7. My screen is half wonked, and I may take it back since I got the extended warrenty, especially if I have to re-root it for this anyway.
Also...what is CM7? Is that an Android version?
As a side note: Can anyone confirm that you can use an external keyboard with CM7 or above?
What do you want to do first?...do you want to return to stock so that you can return your nt...or do you want to flash cm7? (cm7 is a ROM by the way a version of Android os)
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systems6 said:
What do you want to do first?...do you want to return to stock so that you can return your nt...or do you want to flash cm7? (cm7 is a ROM by the way a version of Android os)
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Ultimately what I want to do is run an external keyboard, and the information I have is that they will run on CM7. I will probably (assuming my warranty will cover this) be getting this one fixed to replaced soon, so I will need to re-root when I get it back, but for now I don't see the need to re-root if I don't have to.
What does it mean to "flash" cm7?
drworm73 said:
What does it mean to "flash" cm7?
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If your nook is broken already, why bother doing anything to it? Just get it fixed then address the things you want to address. And while you are waiting for the replacement see the next line.
After reading above quote along with your original post you honestly need to read...A LOT. You need to learn at least the basic lingo before you even make an attempt to do anything. Failure to have even an iota of understanding will only lead to failure, complaints, and frustration. Spend a few hours going through the posts on here. There are several new user guides. Read them. Re-Read them. Read them again. Learn to understand what people are talking about when someone says something like "Flash x, y, or z".
As for the keyboard question, I am fairly certain that it doesn't work on ANY rom. They are working on getting the OTG portion of the kernel ironed out. While it is called a tablet it is a glorified E-Reader. The devs have done an awesome job making the Nooks into what they are today (for those of us that have modified them),
SlowCobra96 said:
After reading above quote along with your original post you honestly need to read...A LOT. You need to learn at least the basic lingo before you even make an attempt to do anything. Failure to have even an iota of understanding will only lead to failure, complaints, and frustration. Spend a few hours going through the posts on here. There are several new user guides. Read them. Re-Read them. Read them again. Learn to understand what people are talking about when someone says something like "Flash x, y, or z"
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Any good links to layman information sites or tutorials? I was able to Root it easily (it is pretty simple), but I will admit that some of the android specific terminology does go over my head.
As for the keyboard question, I am fairly certain that it doesn't work on ANY rom. They are working on getting the OTG portion of the kernel ironed out. While it is called a tablet it is a glorified E-Reader. The devs have done an awesome job making the Nooks into what they are today (for those of us that have modified them),
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I have read several places where cm7 has allowed keyboard use for users. They are not expensive, and I would really like to try.
As for getting it fixed...well I love my nook and use it every day, so I have been loathe to take it in. I suppose that is silly.
drworm73 said:
Any good links to layman information sites or tutorials? I was able to Root it easily (it is pretty simple), but I will admit that some of the android specific terminology does go over my head.
I have read several places where cm7 has allowed keyboard use for users. They are not expensive, and I would really like to try.
As for getting it fixed...well I love my nook and use it every day, so I have been loathe to take it in. I suppose that is silly.
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You will love it more when it works completely and isn't "wonky". You will survive without it for a little bit. Trust me you won't die. Also because CM7 allows for a keyboard doesn't mean every device running CM7 will. Search the forums for more information. I know that some of the developers have been working on it for CM10 but I don't recall seeing any posts saying that they have it working definitively.
As for specific sites or tutorials. Just visit the various android boards and look for the Noob guides. Search google for more details on subjects you want to know about.
SlowCobra96 said:
You will love it more when it works completely and isn't "wonky". You will survive without it for a little bit. Trust me you won't die. Also because CM7 allows for a keyboard doesn't mean every device running CM7 will. Search the forums for more information. I know that some of the developers have been working on it for CM10 but I don't recall seeing any posts saying that they have it working definitively.
As for specific sites or tutorials. Just visit the various android boards and look for the Noob guides. Search google for more details on subjects you want to know about.
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Thank, I just took it back to Best Buy and they replaced it with an HD. I thought about an HD+, but I use my nook for reading more than anything (lots of comics, some novels), and the 9" is much less comfortable for that. Now I need to root this bad boy, and I don't have to monkey around with roms other than rooting because the HD already has support for an external keyboard.
This can be closed, as far as I am concerned. Thanks.

[Q] Nexus 7 Clone?

Good day,
I bought my wife a Nook Tablet shortly after they were launched – she likes the word Nook.
As soon as root was available, I did. I also put another launcher on it. But there is still quite a bit of Nook like behavior / performance on it. I’ve not focused on the device since then. She sees others doing stuff on their machines she’d like to do, but cannot. (it’s possible, just not “easy”).
I’d like to give her my Nexus 7 but then she’d have it and I wouldn’t. So the question – what is the safest, best, easiest way to get the Nook Tablet to be like mine? NO BN content, no nothing. Just android.
Then I can set it up the way I want to.
I’m comfortable doing anything, I just have no recent Nook data so your perspective is greatly appreciated.
newskate9 said:
Good day,
I bought my wife a Nook Tablet shortly after they were launched – she likes the word Nook.
As soon as root was available, I did. I also put another launcher on it. But there is still quite a bit of Nook like behavior / performance on it. I’ve not focused on the device since then. She sees others doing stuff on their machines she’d like to do, but cannot. (it’s possible, just not “easy”).
I’d like to give her my Nexus 7 but then she’d have it and I wouldn’t. So the question – what is the safest, best, easiest way to get the Nook Tablet to be like mine? NO BN content, no nothing. Just android.
Then I can set it up the way I want to.
I’m comfortable doing anything, I just have no recent Nook data so your perspective is greatly appreciated.
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Flash any of the ROMs in the Dev section. They will wipe out all B&N content, but most are very good with very few issues. I use the AOKP JB Rom (link in my sig).
You will need a 6.x version of CWM (also included in the AOKP thread) to install any version of JB (and possibly ICS), but it's fairly easy to do if you follow instructions.
Making a CM10 sd card is really easy if you want to try things out before putting them in internal memory. I', so happy with my CM10 card that I'm in no hurry at all to put it internally!
There is so incredibly much info here on XDA, but I did mine from this guide http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/ because I happened to stumble upon it
Thanks, guys. That what I needed to know!
newskate9 said:
Thanks, guys. That what I needed to know!
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Yeah I highly recommend cm10. You'll think you have a different tablet. It's smooth, fast, & stable. I know it breathed new life into mine!
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[Q] What is the most stable CM?

I am looking into getting a tablet for a 5 year old and wanted to put android on specifically for just games.
What is the best and most stable rom for this? Thanks
As of 12-13-2012 CM7 is considered (tested) to be the most stable and complete CM that has been made for the nook tablet
Unfortunately this is an opinion thread and the mods hate it. With that said CM7 is (was) the most stable however CM10 has come a LONG way. I'm using the 11-26 and 11-28 SD card CM10 versions provided by Succulent at iamafanof.WordPress. com. Other than battery life not as good as stock I have no issues.
Prior to that I was using his CM7 SD card builds with no problems.
The EMMC versions are preferred by many I happen to like SD for ease of reverting to stock if needed.
Sent from my CM 10 SD nook tablet. Thanks devs.
SlowCobra96 said:
Unfortunately this is an opinion thread and the mods hate it. With that said CM7 is (was) the most stable however CM10 has come a LONG way. I'm using the 11-26 and 11-28 SD card CM10 versions provided by Succulent at iamafanof.WordPress. com. Other than battery life not as good as stock I have no issues.
Prior to that I was using his CM7 SD card builds with no problems.
The EMMC versions are preferred by many I happen to like SD for ease of reverting to stock if needed.
Sent from my CM 10 SD nook tablet. Thanks devs.
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How bad is the battery life on cm10?
shags72 said:
How bad is the battery life on cm10?
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I've had fantastic battery life (on standby) on the AOKP release I'm using. When my kids are playing games on it, even, it still lasts all day (8+ hours of Where's My Perry?). I think that's pretty good.
liquidzoo said:
I've had fantastic battery life (on standby) on the AOKP release I'm using. When my kids are playing games on it, even, it still lasts all day (8+ hours of Where's My Perry?). I think that's pretty good.
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I would say. I am not trying to hijack as I think this might be pertinent to the op's question if he is as much of a noob at this as I am. For a noob is it really advisable to go with these or should a newer Rooter stay with just like the 4.7 root? Because if he is like me I won't know how to maintain if something goes wrong. Thanks
If you run a couple of diffrent ROMS from sd you can get a feel for them. How they work, stability, battery life...
I'm having great battery life from the CM10 version I'm running from sd at the moment. Tomorrow I might change to another one just for fun. Maybe it's better, maybe it's worse. But because it's on sd I can experiment to my heart's content without taking any risks at all!
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I would say. I am not trying to hijack as I think this might be pertinent to the op's question if he is as much of a noob at this as I am. For a noob is it really advisable to go with these or should a newer Rooter stay with just like the 4.7 root? Because if he is like me I won't know how to maintain if something goes wrong. Thanks
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4.7 root?
I advise anyone to do a LOT of reading before trying to root any Android device for the first time. There is a lot to understand and even more that could go wrong if you're not careful.
liquidzoo said:
4.7 root?
I advise anyone to do a LOT of reading before trying to root any Android device for the first time. There is a lot to understand and even more that could go wrong if you're not careful.
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I would agree but with the imense size of this forum where do I start? I figured I would start with the moding threads and alot of them sound simple at the beginning and then the replies speak of problems and fixes that when you get done you wonder if the problems got fixed or not. Also is there like an acronym list? Myself and probably alot of other noobs don't know them and what they mean. Let me know OP if you want me to start a different thread on this.
Pm me if you run into acronyms you don't get. Easiest place to start would be the How To Root threads, and those about returning to stock. If there's something you don't understand right away, open another browser window and search for the term(s).
It is definitely recommended to read any beginners guides out there. Preferably those relating to the device you have, as they'll be the most relevant to you, but there are some general guides in the overall Android forum and subforums that will still be useful.
From there, ask yourself what you want to accomplish with your device. Are you content with the appearance as is, or do you want to change that? Are you just looking to install additional programs or do you want to write them? Any questions you can think of, make a list and prioritize that. Then start from the top and search for your answers or direction, asking questions where needed (especially if the info you find seems out of date, though lots of questions you'll find have already been asked and answered). Don't be afraid to say you don't understand something or to ask for additional info. Those who are willing to help will gladly do so if you seem like you've done some research beforehand.
Feel free to PM me any time, or hit me up on gchat. I'm always willing to help out if I can.
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As already stated, 4.7 root? Huh? If I am not mistaken I believe that is something for a Nook COLOR not a Nook TABLET Many people have been on here lately misstating what they have. Verify the actual device you have before doing ANYTHING! Then go to the correct forum. Color and Tablet look the same but are 2 different animals with different methods to get things done.
I have a Google Nexus Galaxy NOOK Color Tablet HD + running the Windows 3.11 version of the Linux iOS. I'm trying to put the CyanogenmodKindleAppleWindowsPlay Store on the Skydrive in my device. My problem is that my laser disc won't fit into the 5 1/4 inch floppy disk drive on my device. This is the right forum for this, right?
EDIT: Sorry, just felt is was necessary for a laugh.
Sent from my NT running CM10
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4.7 root?
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I suspect the poster refers to the 4_7 version of the root zip in the "Albert Wertz method". That is indeed for the Tablet. I have used it myself a couple of times. Whether it is the latest/best/whatever I do not know. But I'm sure a couple of days of reading up can help any new Tablet owners (and I suspect there are MANY after the recent great deals from BN!) make informed decisions on what route to choose.
(And I did laugh at the post above mine! )
Honestly, the SG7 rom is nice, I haven't tried either 4.2 ROMS yet, but they should be reasonably stable for games
Although battery life would be better from SG7
Also, use a file browser to remove the OTA Updater because the updates wipe GApps...

[Q] Nook Tablet noob..Best custom rom for 1st timer?

Hi All,
I picked up a used, stock, fully functioning Nook 16Gb tablet (BNTV250) at a yardsale this past weekend. I have 0 experience
with anything mobile. I just know that there's bound to be something better than the stock NT experience.
My question is what should a newbie like me choose for his first custom rom? I'd like to favor stability over cutting edge and
battery life over absolute best performance.
I hope to use this tablet for web browsing, ebook reading, streaming video, podcasts, and Google Music. Is this asking too much
from an older tablet?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Joe
well pretty much your only option is cm11. aokp bricked my tab, havent tried LiquidSmooth but.. yeah probably cm11. try some out, see what you like
I've been really happy with CM10.2.1 internal, starting as a NT noob but with prior experience rooting/modifying NST.
2Rivers said:
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My question is what should a newbie like me choose for his first custom rom? I'd like to favor stability over cutting edge and
battery life over absolute best performance.
I hope to use this tablet for web browsing, ebook reading, streaming video, podcasts, and Google Music. Is this asking too much
from an older tablet?
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You should consider Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, it's still the best in terms of reliability/stability and battery performance -- see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572987. CM10.1, 10.2, and 11 all have various flaws that could be show-stoppers for some users.
FWIW, Succulent has many version of SD-based CM ROMs available in pre-made SD-card images (see http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/category/nook-tablet-2/) which you can burn onto and run off SD to see how well you'd like them before you decide to install a version onto the NT EMMC.
Thank you all for your advice.
After trying 3 different SD cards and finally finding my NT only likes Sandisk Class 4 I've installed Sucullent's 10.2 sd card img and am
running it now. I find that I don't really care for the 10.2 as battery life seems to be to short. I admit that I have not had a chance to
explore any optimizations in that area though. I think I'll take Digixmax's advice and revert to Succlent's 10.0 SD card image and try that.
There's a post in the General Nook tablet forum praising that particular one. So far this has turned out to be one of the best purchases
I have ever made. I really love this little tablet. $15 well spent.
Thanks again everyone. XDA is a great community.
Regards
Joe
OK, I've been running Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12 from SD card for a few days now and am happy with it.
Could someone point me to the correct guide to installing this internally?
Thanks All
2Rivers said:
OK, I've been running Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12 from SD card for a few days now and am happy with it.
Could someone point me to the correct guide to installing this internally?
Thanks All
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See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056626 for some pointers, you can use any CWM recovery version that is older than 6.0.4.5.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
digixmax said:
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056626 for some pointers, you can use any CWM recovery version that is older than 6.0.4.5.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
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Thanks Digixmax,
I was hoping you would see this and respond.
I'm setting aside all day tomorrow for getting this done. Wish me luck!
Thanks to all and know that your work and help are MUCH appreciated.
Regards,
Joe

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