Hi guys,
Basically i've recently got a HTC one x plus and i was wondering if its possible to run otg (keyboard/usb drive) and hook up the phone to my tv at the same time?
thanks
As far as I understand, no, you can not run video out feature in parallel with USB host on any device with video through the microUSB port. You could probably do this on devices that have separate microHDMI and microUSB ports.
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As far as I understand, no, you can not run video out feature in parallel with USB host on any device with video through the microUSB port. You could probably do this on devices that have separate microHDMI and microUSB ports.
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MHL disables all other USB based things except charging
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Just use bluetooth keyboards/mice.
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Yes. It's called USB OTG (on the go).
Yep, see it demoed here. Unknown how wide the host support will be (will it include keyboard/mouse/gamepad etc).
Wow! That's really cool, thanks for the answer
Just curious... does Sensation also have this?
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dunno if this has been asked before but i thought that this is the place to ask it.
since the phone has USB-otg could we use a mini usb to usb adapter or to we have to buy the samsung one?
The big question is if it is feasible somehow to read/write NFTS or at least EXT2-3-4 partitions! It would be great to be able to manipulate files on a 2.5" external HDD.
No, it can't read'write NFTS, but it works fine with large drives that are Fat32 formatted. Read my thread in the accessories forum for lots of information on USB OTG.
Where can we get the USB adapter for cheapest ?
There is even USB host support for your HD2. Trouble is usually you need an externally powered hub, as the phone can't supply enough power (or not for long) to power the USB device.
A microUSB plug to USB A jack is easy on ebay for like 2 bucks?
I got this one, works like a charm: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004TJC1IM
USB OTG has a floating (grounded) 5th pin on the microUSB connector to tell the host it's an OTG cable. Does anybody know the pin out of the microUSB plug?
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I recently purchased a "ikross USB to HDMI" adapter on amazon, supposedly supported by the HTC Amaze. However, when i plug the adapter in connected to my TV(s), nothing happens on the phone or tv.
Im guessing I need some kind of 'drivers' on the phone to enable this feature.
Also, my problem might be stemming from the fact that i am running Beastmod v2.2.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for these adapters?
Thanks
I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
raiden9250 said:
I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
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Mhl uses micro USB, so you don't need a special port on the adapter.
My guess for op is that it might be the ROM. I use bullet proof, and my Mhl to hdmi adapter works fine.
Final, try making a backup of your current ROM, flash a ROM with sense, and try again.
Edit: Also, this should be in accessories
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Huh I figured cause if you look in the port beyond the USB there are other pins I figured it requires a special plug to reach those pins
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Huh I figured cause if you look in the port beyond the USB there are other pins I figured it requires a special plug to reach those pins
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The port on the Amaze is a proprietary HTC design, called EXTUSB. It allows the device to get more power while charging, but it is also backwards compatible with microusb cables.
raiden9250 said:
I don't believe you purchased the rite thing, I was reading and interested in running hdmi from my amaze, I have read most places you need to purchase an MHL converter, that's why the plug on the phone is the funny square shape
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I got one of those, and it works IF you also plug a USB charging cable separately into the adapter - thanks for the stupid design HTC.
In order to do the hdmi out can you use a miniusb or does the adapter have to have the extusb?
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Also if I am reading this right you need a TV with the MHL chip in it for this to work:
Sorry I'm not allowed to post links yet...
gigaom.com/video/htc-mhl-usb-hdmi/
Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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I'm confused, where are you plugging it into on the phone? Does microhdmi fit in the extusb port?
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The port on the Amaze is a proprietary HTC design, called EXTUSB. It allows the device to get more power while charging, but it is also backwards compatible with microusb cables.
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tppickles said:
Wouldnt a standard micro HDMI to HDMI cable work? I typically use a standard micro usb cable to plug into my work computer without issue
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chrisb2e9 said:
I'm confused, where are you plugging it into on the phone? Does microhdmi fit in the extusb port?
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All wrong. A simple Google will show you that EXTUSB was the port HTC used in the days of the T-Mo Wing, G1, and myTouch 3G.
The miniHDMI connector does NOT fit the Amaze. I wish I knew what our port was called... I'll report in if I can find it. But I know it's not EXTUSB
I recently bought Cable Matters Micro USB to HDMI MHL Adapter from Amazon. I have had success using it on stock phone, quicksense v3.0.0 and currently beastmod 2.3.0.
Just to set the record clear. The port on the Amaze 4G is called an MHL connector. It's not a proprietary HTC port, but a seemingly new industry standard. Just search wikipedia for MHL and you can read all about it.
Punchline is that you get a single port that can output HDMI and connect via USB in one go. Supposedly with the proper adapter your phone will charge while connected to an HDMI source. You can definitely use a standard micro USB cable on the MHL port if you just need to charge or connect to a computer via USB.
The one I bought, the power cable must be attached.
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The one I bought, the power cable must be attached.
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That's what Mr. Moo is getting at. MHL ports allows simultaneous output and charging; though I'm not sure they both need to be connected for either to work.
In my experience, the MHL with power connected doesn't really charge the phone. My battery still drains slowly while connected. Is that just me?
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jcparks said:
In my experience, the MHL with power connected doesn't really charge the phone. My battery still drains slowly while connected. Is that just me?
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Happens to me too
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HTC calls the port ExtMicro USB. It's backwards compatible with Micro-USB plugs (the five leads on the flange you see on the front), but the proprietary plug has 12 pins total.
I was getting intermittent performance with a Micro-USB MHL-HDMI adapter, and had to have a Micro-USB charger attached.
The HTC adapter for the Amaze (and Flyer, and Rezound) is AC-M500, a 12-pin adapter with HDMI-out, Audio-out (3.5mm) and an ExtMicro USB port. I have pics of these on WikiMedia, and in a thread in the Rezound section.
I wish I could tell you what the 7 additional leads do that a conventional MHL-HDMI adapter doesn't ... and HTC isn't talking. (US Tech Support couldn't even confirm the that the port is different, only the recommended adapter.) aLogCat recorded some HDCP messages when I connected the phone with this adapter to a Dell ST2410 24" monitor that's been reported for not supporting HDCP-controlled HDMI video. When I connected my Amaze to a Samsung T27A300 1080P HDTV, it worked fine.
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finaldark said:
I recently purchased a "ikross USB to HDMI" adapter on amazon, supposedly supported by the HTC Amaze. However, when i plug the adapter in connected to my TV(s), nothing happens on the phone or tv.
Im guessing I need some kind of 'drivers' on the phone to enable this feature.
Also, my problem might be stemming from the fact that i am running Beastmod v2.2.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for these adapters?
Thanks
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I have same trouble last week. I bought a "usb to hdmi adapter" from Amazon as a cheap price last month. But it can't work. So last week , i got a new hdmi adapter from Hdgenius .Finally it is OK and can work normally. So maybe you can learn from me and get another new hdmi adapter to have a test.
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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anyone?
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According to some of wikipedia entries it should be possible to use mhl and usb otg at the same time with a 11-pin mhl-hdmi adapter.
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11-pin MHL-USB Connector
The Samsung Galaxy S III uses a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-USB connector, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously (note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB-OTG port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III can power the MHL-HDMI adapter. Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
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Here you go.
So, it should work. But I couldnt make it work at the moment
I also got one of these 11-pin connectors and like it seems only the S3 has these adapters, so why the **** doesnt it work?? :/
I already asked sammy on facebook, just wondering what they will answer^^
Hopefully we will have some pos. results, dude.
cheers
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If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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How would that work since the micro USB connection on the mhl cable is for power / charger?
In those YouTube videos is it possible that they have the mhl cable connected to the TV and power source, and the keyboard and mouse connected wirelessly via Bluetooth?
Confused because you said USB Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. From what I know they aren't USB.
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Samsung should eventually release a dock to use both so unless someone figures it out first you'll just have to wait, because if it just took an 11 pin USB cable someone would have got it working already and we'd know about it, so I reckon it might have some extra circuitry to make it recognised by the phone.
Guys, as I already posted, the connector has 11 pins, so it should be possible to use OTG and MHL features at the same time. thats the only reason sammy brought out this connector and also cause of incompability with the 5-pin connector.
So they should bring the f*ck out somethin for the phone that activates this feature.
And a big problem I have with my mhl-connector is that I cant configure the output
on my 2 TVs at home I get 1080i, (both only 1080i capable), but the picture is kinda oversized so I cant see 100% percent of the picture, only 90% or smt like this.
But the funny part is, that I get on my 1680x1050p PC monitor only 576p screen, what actually sucks So it would be awesome if I could choose the resolution I want to have. But I guess its a thing of the connector (maybe it choose the resolutions iself).
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so the one in the videos using keyboard and mouse are bluetooth thru phone?
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I am SO HARD waiting for THAT "DOCK" hopefully will came out any day soon.
They should do iut fast. I'm waiting so hard for everything get connected with my Phone. It will be awsome if I don't need my Pc anymore.
To use the MHL cable you must have power connected to the adapter.
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bordikun said:
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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That's damn funny because I have wanted to know whether that would work as well, lol.
Did seriously consider trying but as I was on holiday if they broke, I wouldn't be able to get replacement so didn't try it.
In theory I would think it could work, but only if you could somehow wire in power to the hdmi adapter as it appears to need that to run the hdmi aswell as provide power to the phone, at least enough that once the usb adapter tries to demand power to run it isn't enough for the phone to output.
As to whether this is just a a stupid guess and assumption of how the devices and being a noob, I don't know.
If you can get a micro female to male adapter with a usb splitter for power then technically I can't see why it wouldn't work if the limitations are physical as oppose to software based (whole other issue I have no clue about).
EDIT: Wow, when I started that post no one had replied, err, seems a little redundant now, lol. My bad. Also, this 5 minute wait to point this out, have seemed really long...
guess we'll have to wait for that dock.
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Does anyone know if I can hook this phone up to a non HD TV? Does a microUSB to Composite cables work? Would like to watch YouTube vids on my TV.
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Does anyone know if I can hook this phone up to a non HD TV? Does a miniUSB to Composite cables work? Would like to watch YouTube vids on my TV.
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You would need an MHL/HDMI adapter (HTC OEM or third party) and an HDMI to composite converter similar to this one. The MHL/HDMI adapter needs power from the phone's A/C charger to work properly.
BTW, the Evo 3D has microUSB not miniUSB connector.
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ramjet73 said:
You would need an MHL/HDMI adapter (HTC OEM or third party) and an HDMI to composite converter similar to this one. The MHL/HDMI adapter needs power from the phone's A/C charger to work properly.
BTW, the Evo 3D has microUSB not miniUSB connector.
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Yeah I meant micro not mini. Will this work on a CM ROM?
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Kahroo said:
Yeah I meant micro not mini. Will this work on a CM ROM?
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I have an MHL/HDMI adapter but have never used it on AOSP based ROM. It would be best to ask in the ROM thread if TV-out is supported or not.
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I've looked around and haven't found anything that seems to do what I am looking for.
I have a Nexus 4 and the lack of USB OTG is quite depressing, I want a Bluetooth hub to which I can connect a USB keyboard and mouse, I need the Slimport for HDMI out so I can use my phone like a computer with an HDMI cable.
Are there any products out there that connect to a phone via Bluetooth and have multiple USB port host functionality?
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kristoff125 said:
I've looked around and haven't found anything that seems to do what I am looking for.
I have a Nexus 4 and the lack of USB OTG is quite depressing, I want a Bluetooth hub to which I can connect a USB keyboard and mouse, I need the Slimport for HDMI out so I can use my phone like a computer with an HDMI cable.
Are there any products out there that connect to a phone via Bluetooth and have multiple USB port host functionality?
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Did you find any Bluetooth USB hub? Can a WiFi USB hub solve your problem?
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Did you find any Bluetooth USB hub? Can a WiFi USB hub solve your problem?
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Is there any news about this topic? I want to use a bluetooth usb hub, too.