Hi ,I was wondering if its possible to still somehow modify the soft to make it run on ics or jb,cause im pretty sure its hardware would allow it. Btw i remember that there was an amaze camera gingerbread thread with some alpha mod.
Our phone is not designed, nor fully capable for 1080p goodness. Sorry. Previous programs, and some old ROMs had the option, but was found to be unstable and pointless.
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Our phone is not designed, nor fully capable for 1080p goodness. Sorry. Previous programs, and some old ROMs had the option, but was found to be unstable and pointless.
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What about this? http://darkroms.com/darksense-3d/
BTW, I dont know whether it works or not.
What about it?
Everything I've read says that the maximum video resolution on the Evo 3D is 720P even though the Sensation and One S C2 with similar processor and memory specs record at 1080P. There must have been some trade-off required for deploying 3D cameras.
OTOH, this is a very interesting comparison. Although the videos on the other phones are higher resolution, the colors in the Evo 3D sample are much closer to the original, especially the blue on the ferris wheel gondola.
Edit: Judging by the red gondola at the bottom of both 1080p stills versus the green gondola at the bottom of the 720p still it looks like they weren't too careful about positioning things the same way for all phones, but the blue background color still looks more true on the Evo 3D.
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What about this? http://darkroms.com/darksense-3d/
BTW, I dont know whether it works or not.
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probably not
waaaaay back when this phone was announced they made a mistake and said it had 1080p recording, but then change it to 720p. and yeah i agree that the 3D probably has something to do with it, so I don't think there's any way to get 1080p recording on it
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The way I understand how those screens work, I don't see how it would be possible for the screen to have a 3D effect in portrait AND landscape. And if it doesn't, that could be a deal breaker. Like you'd want the interface 3D effects, but you'd also want to be able to watch 3D videos in landscape.
Anyone know? I can't find any info on it or any video or anything.
While I don't think anyone can provide official answers at this point in time, I would assume they would not make it so that you had to watch YouTube 3D in portrait mode, as everyone knows how ridiculous that is.
Also, see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSuD45mRl_o&feature=channel_video_title
It shows a video by HTC of the HTC EVO 3D, and it shows a movie being played in landscape, while the whole premise of the video is to showcase 3D abilities of the device, saying, specifically, before the portion of a movie clip in landscape, "3D movies in a stunning qHD display."
Thank god a new thread was started for this extremely specific question. I doubt it could have been asked in the 47 other EVO 3D threads.
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Thank god a new thread was started for this extremely specific question. I doubt it could have been asked in the 47 other EVO 3D threads.
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Maybe anything that has the 3D effect will be forced to landscape (hypothesis)
If it's like any of the other glass-less 3D screens (LG Optimus 2X, Nintendo 3DS, 3D photo frames, etc...) it'll only work in 1 orientation. In order to work in 2 orientations, it'll need 2 parallax layers (instead of 1), or some other technology, and I don't think it's cost effective yet to do so.
If it will work horizontally what is stopping them from making it work vertically?
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Thank god a new thread was started for this extremely specific question. I doubt it could have been asked in the 47 other EVO 3D threads.
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Someone should make an EVO 3D section and move all the posts there or combined all these threads into 1.
from the demos on youtube at ctia..
it works in both landscape and portait mode!
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Someone should make an EVO 3D section and move all the posts there or combined all these threads into 1.
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I posted this idea in the suggestion sub-forum and no one has replied to it yet.
What I was wondering about is. Well, ok, the phone takes 3D still pictures and video. I take it that you can view these 3D stills on your phone and maybe a 3D TV?? What about the video? Again viewable on a 3DTV?? What about on your pc monitor? I guess printing hard copies is out huh? So, its kinda like a novelty and maybe gamer thing??? The only thing I would probably like is if the GUI itself is 3D. Thats what I'm looking at the most anyway.
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What I was wondering about is. Well, ok, the phone takes 3D still pictures and video. I take it that you can view these 3D stills on your phone and maybe a 3D TV?? What about the video? Again viewable on a 3DTV?? What about on your pc monitor? I guess printing hard copies is out huh? So, its kinda like a novelty and maybe gamer thing??? The only thing I would probably like is if the GUI itself is 3D. Thats what I'm looking at the most anyway.
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yes, yes, yes, yes, you can, how do you figure, ok
Considering the cameras are positioned in landscape, i'm guessing it only works in landscape.
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I hope it works in every direction.
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the cam is in landscape.. so we know it will work that way.
CTIA has demos that are in portrait.. so we know it works that way too.
what else???
great point dan.
Landscape optimal, but I'm sure portrait won't be left out.
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If it will work horizontally what is stopping them from making it work vertically?
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As far as I understand it, these screens work like printed holograms. Your left and right eye are actually seeing different sets of pixels. So the screen is divided into two vertically-interlaced screens (which explains the poor viewing angle). If you turned such a screen on its side, the pixel rows would no longer be vertically interlaced but horizontally interlaced and your eyes would not be seeing the different screens and you would have no 3D effect.
From videos of the device it seems clear that it DOES work in both portrait and landscape, so I'm pretty interested in learning how they're pulling it off.
Will the 3d screen only be used for movies and pictures or can it also be used in the launcher? A real 3d HTC sense launcher I mean. Or will the launcher just look like normal phones?
currently launcher is set to be 2D. only 3D right now are movies, Pictures, and upcoming games, and apps I believe. outside of that in 2D you have one kick arse phone.
That's a pity then.
I was hoping once developers start making ROM's they can develop 3D launchers or 3D keyboards, but now thanks to HTC that will never be possible.
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I was hoping once developers start making ROM's they can develop 3D launchers or 3D keyboards, but now thanks to HTC that will never be possible.
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what? your dead wrong on that front. Since when does the bootloader have anything to do with installing apps such as launchers and keyboards? Moreover HTC is responsible for releasing the sdk that makes such apps possible
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what? your dead wrong on that front. Since when does the bootloader have anything to do with installing apps such as launchers and keyboards? Moreover HTC is responsible for releasing the sdk that makes such apps possible
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If they can't rip the api's and all the proprietary 3d stuff it would be a helluva lot more difficult to do. Specially if the app needs something locked down by the bootloader.
At least that's what I believe / understand
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3D screen hardware
Anyone know if the EVO 3D screen hardware is different from a regular, (non-3D) qHD S-LCD?
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Anyone know if the EVO 3D screen hardware is different from a regular, (non-3D) qHD S-LCD?
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Lol yes it has a parralex barrier. Basically the screen is a bunch of vertical lines where one half is seen by each eye creating the illusion of depth.
How could the screen not be different and be 3d.
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I will be interested to see what happens with the 3D. Right now I am sure it is more gimmicky and will lose it's luster but I do think it can bring some creative things down the road. Like a 3D launcher or 3D gmail experience or who knows what else. I don't think 3D is going to go away anytime real soon and would think HTC will try and get a good amount of dev support for it.
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I will be interested to see what happens with the 3D. Right now I am sure it is more gimmicky and will lose it's luster but I do think it can bring some creative things down the road. Like a 3D launcher or 3D gmail experience or who knows what else. I don't think 3D is going to go away anytime real soon and would think HTC will try and get a good amount of dev support for it.
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I think if other companies start to release 3d phone's it might stick around for a little bit but if we do not see other 3d phones come out in the near future, I am thinking it will just die a quick death.
Although, if the iPhone 5 goes 3d then you can be assured it will be sticking around regardless of what other Android devices do. lol
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I think if other companies start to release 3d phone's it might stick around for a little bit but if we do not see other 3d phones come out in the near future, I am thinking it will just die a quick death.
Although, if the iPhone 5 goes 3d then you can be assured it will be sticking around regardless of what other Android devices do. lol
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LG has also a 3d phone released soon.
Think about it. If the phone was completely 3D, the battery would blow more than you think. I think having select apps that have dedicated 3D capability it better.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
Nsandhu23 said:
Think about it. If the phone was completely 3D, the battery would blow more than you think. I think having select apps that have dedicated 3D capability it better.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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That is true, but if you can only use 3d for movies and pictures it's worthless on a phone. That is why there are 3d tv's.
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That is true, but if you can only use 3d for movies and pictures it's worthless on a phone. That is why there are 3d tv's.
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Okay I see what your saying. But gaming, picture, videos, movie and future dedicated apps will most likely suit the buyers.
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The new google maps version would be pretty sweet in 3D. Imagine if the tilting of the plane had an actual 3D effect. Or the pop-up buildings being in 3D.
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Okay I see what your saying. But gaming, picture, videos, movie and future dedicated apps will most likely suit the buyers.
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The apps is the most intriguing but I will say that if you had told me that live wallpapers wouldn't wear a battery out a year ago, I wouldn't have believed you. So i think there is a possibility that you could make a 3D launcher with minimal effect on the battery.
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The apps is the most intriguing but I will say that if you had told me that live wallpapers wouldn't wear a battery out a year ago, I wouldn't have believed you. So i think there is a possibility that you could make a 3D launcher with minimal effect on the battery.
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Good point. I guess time will tell when we actually get our hands on one along with app developers.
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If they can't rip the api's and all the proprietary 3d stuff it would be a helluva lot more difficult to do. Specially if the app needs something locked down by the bootloader.
At least that's what I believe / understand
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what part of sdk do you not understand? lol
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Think about it. If the phone was completely 3D, the battery would blow more than you think. I think having select apps that have dedicated 3D capability it better.
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I don't see why 3D output would be that much more costly battery wise than 2D output. The content is still static. LCD pixels are either on or off. The parallax barrier pixels will be on, which is where all of the excess drain would come from. But it's hard to theorize how much extra drain that would cause. But it's not like you're playing a video or something the whole time.
And someone earlier asked if the 3D qHD screen would be the same as a 2D qHD screen. My understanding is that the qHD LCD layer of the screen would be identical; it just has the parallax barrier layer as well. But when that's off, it should be just a typical qHD LCD screen for all intents and purposes.
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I don't see why 3D output would be that much more costly battery wise than 2D output. The content is still static. LCD pixels are either on or off. The parallax barrier pixels will be on, which is where all of the excess drain would come from. But it's hard to theorize how much extra drain that would cause. But it's not like you're playing a video or something the whole time.
And someone earlier asked if the 3D qHD screen would be the same as a 2D qHD screen. My understanding is that the qHD LCD layer of the screen would be identical; it just has the parallax barrier layer as well. But when that's off, it should be just a typical qHD LCD screen for all intents and purposes.
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Thanks for your response. I had the same question about the E3D screen being the same as the sensation because I was concerned that the addition of the p. barrier on the 3D would compromise the optimal quality or clarity of the QHD screen. This is paramount to me since I could care less about 3D but am really excited about the QHD and the prospect of near Iphone4-like sharpness and clarity. I tend to used my phone for videos, ebooks, and web surfing and have been wishing for higher/better resolutin for years.
Since when did that change?
Wasn't it always 720 3d 30 fps and 1080 24 fps normal?
first I heard of it, and it made my stomach wrench in agony... wtf?
What?
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i too was under the impression it did 1080p at 24FPS as well...hmmmmm,confused
I call bs..every chart/comparison showed 1080p video
That's why i am confused too... the sprint reps said it was 1080p. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynmqtopi9g
From sprint page: HD video capture at 720p and playback up to 1080p
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-evo-3d-review/
http://gizmodo.com/5812185/htc-evo-3d-oh-my-god-make-it-stop-hurting
....I brought that up in another post.... I just watched the engadget review and you can only film 2d in 720p......
I wonder if a million people have already asked this on HTC's Facebook page?
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....I brought that up in another post.... I just watched the engadget review and you can only film 2d in 720p......
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Yup... hate to break it to you guys, but go on the Sprint website for the Evo 3D (under specs) and it says "up to 720p capture and 1080p playback.
GAAHHHHHHHH hTC and sprint had to **** it up LOL .
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Yup... hate to break it to you guys, but go on the Sprint website for the Evo 3D (under specs) and it says "up to 720p capture and 1080p playback.
GAAHHHHHHHH hTC and sprint had to **** it up LOL .
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yeah, but it USED to say 1080p recording... all the other press-release stuff, anyways..
Their reps said it was 1080 p...
This is why Engadget is biased as all ****. The phone does support 1080p in 2D mode. The reviewer has his head in his ass.
The 2D camera is pretty good (if not a little grainy) and shoots video in 1080p. HTC has made a worthy successor to the EVO 4G.
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LOLOLOL
I was about to have a heart attack thanks for finding that
Btw it's a she
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This is why Engadget is biased as all ****. The phone does support 1080p in 2D mode. The reviewer has his head in his ass.
The 2D camera is pretty good (if not a little grainy) and shoots video in 1080p. HTC has made a worthy successor to the EVO 4G.
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I get that Engadget is biased..But he physically went into the camera app settings and the option just wasn't there.
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LOLOLOL
I was about to have a heart attack thanks for finding that
Btw it's a she
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myriam is a chick???
Yup look her up on youtube..
I'm not that worried about it. Even if it's confirmed at 720 only, it could possibly be fixed in a software update.
If not, that's what custom roms and kernels are for.......
Cnet has a kinder review than some of the other sites... They state 1080p is there.
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I'm not that worried about it. Even if it's confirmed at 720 only, it could possibly be fixed in a software update.
If not, that's what custom roms and kernels are for.......
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If you're familiar with the custom ROMs--fundamental things like the camera are very difficult to work with... they STILL don't have stable 720p video recording on non-Sense ROMs on the Evo. At least, not in the latest CM7 ROM I've installed.
I'd imagine that the software layer of the camera is even more complicated than before, so don't get your hopes up.
so is it 1080p or 720p cause i've been seeing both?
So I am not sure what exactly happened to this discussion but I was wondering if there was any one trying to figure out how to get 1080p video recording possible on our phones? I believe our hardware is capable of shooting in 1080p but for some reason was left out last minute. Would this be able to happen via a custom kernel? I apologize if this was resolved a while ago but I just haven't seen any recent threads about this.
this phone can barely pull off 720p video capture very smooth..If 1080p recording is to come to our Evo3D's it will be something from HTC..
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this phone can barely pull off 720p video capture very smooth..If 1080p recording is to come to our Evo3D's it will be something from HTC..
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Why do you say that? HTC was not able to get the original EVO past 30fps, the developers figured it out before them. HTC was also not able to get full HDMI mirroring on the original EVO before the developers figured it out. For a long time the EVO 3D was listed as being able to capture in 1080p, then suddenly days before released it was changed. Our processors ARE capable of shooting in 1080p.
Since the camera is controlled by software, you would need a 3rd party app that was written to do 1080, and that app would have to integrate with other phone systems, such as video and processor... So..i guess we wait untill someone gets the motivation to write it...
I hope 1080p can be made possible on this phone. I feel the hardware should be able to handle it, especially the CPU. Though the quality of the camera sensor and optics seems to be a bit lacking at least at first glance. I bet with some improved software, it should be possible to squeeze out more from our rear cameras.
Htc did this for a reason...therefore im 99% sure it is not possible.
Hopefully the reason was simply that they didn't have time to finalize any loose ends...
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Hopefully the reason was simply that they didn't have time to finalize any loose ends...
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Thats like very unlikely...but well it would be great.
So now the evo 3d has been succesfully rooted, could it be possible to get 1080p recording on the EVO 3D??
I would like to know as well.
Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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i think you might speak the truth there is a reason HTC didnt include this, after all.
Yes we have all the hardware capable of doing so, I'm sure it will get implemented in many upcoming roms. 720p recording is just bad programming on HTC's fault. We will get it ironed out .
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Yes we have all the hardware capable of doing so, I'm sure it will get implemented in many upcoming roms. 720p recording is just bad programming on HTC's fault. We will get it ironed out .
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I tend to agree..unless it is a sensor limitation..obviously the soc is capable of it since the sensation does it very well..I believe most issues that ppl have with photos/videos is software related..I actually like the video quality that I achieve with my e3d..and sound recording is much improved over It's predecessor
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I tend to agree..unless it is a sensor limitation..obviously the soc is capable of it since the sensation does it very well..I believe most issues that ppl have with photos/videos is software related..I actually like the video quality that I achieve with my e3d..and sound recording is much improved over It's predecessor
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I have a $99 point-n-shoot that does 720p video that mops the floor with what I can get from my E3D.
Considering it's a cellphone, yes it takes fantastic video. However if we are going to rationalize the video quality with the qualifier "for a cellphone" then wouldn't we do the same and just agree that 720p is enough "for a cellphone"?
I do a lot of video work at my job and one thing I have seen personally and from everyone that has to review and approve my work....most people won't notice a lower resolution but people will most certainly notice lower frame rate, especially below 24fps. Lower resolution with perfectly smooth video wins over a lot more people than a super sharp super high resolution video with less than ideal frame rate. I'd prefer someone gets a rock-solid 30fps fix in place before or instead of a 1080p recording resolution...
...but that's just me.
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I have a $99 point-n-shoot that does 720p video that mops the floor with what I can get from my E3D.
Considering it's a cellphone, yes it takes fantastic video. However if we are going to rationalize the video quality with the qualifier "for a cellphone" then wouldn't we do the same and just agree that 720p is enough "for a cellphone"?
I do a lot of video work at my job and one thing I have seen personally and from everyone that has to review and approve my work....most people won't notice a lower resolution but people will most certainly notice lower frame rate, especially below 24fps. Lower resolution with perfectly smooth video wins over a lot more people than a super sharp super high resolution video with less than ideal frame rate. I'd prefer someone gets a rock-solid 30fps fix in place before or instead of a 1080p recording resolution...
...but that's just me.
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Oh I'm not.disagreeing with that..id much rather have a smooth 720 p video than a choppy 1080p. I dont think any phone does 1080p justice..I'm totally fine with 720 I was just commenting on the possibility of it being able to be done on our phones..imo 720p still needs Alot of work . Btw didn't u send u e3d back? Are u gonna get it back since root or are u hold out for the gs2
I agree id rather have smooth recording becore a higher choppy Resolution.
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The o3d does 1080p in 30fps since the firmware update
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Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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I think the sensor may be capable of 1080p @30fps, not completely sure though.
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Oh I'm not.disagreeing with that..id much rather have a smooth 720 p video than a choppy 1080p. I dont think any phone does 1080p justice..I'm totally fine with 720 I was just commenting on the possibility of it being able to be done on our phones..imo 720p still needs Alot of work . Btw didn't u send u e3d back? Are u gonna get it back since root or are u hold out for the gs2
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Yeah, I could only take 2 weeks of the EVEN WEAKER NS4G radio...I'm back...though SGS2 is still a possibility and the nPrime is for certain.
The 720P has really impressed me so far. I even tried it out at night a few times, including moving it with quick movements in my car, and I didn't see any blurring or chop. I did find out that every so often I might get some chop on playback, but it was due to a hanging app, and restarting the device solved that problem.
Wasn't 1080p advertised when not using 3d?
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The Evo 4G+ Is practically the Evo3d and its got 1080p recording in its release specs..But so did our 3D before release.
I personally don't see the need for 1080p recording,the software sucks and doesn't even do 720p very good.I leave it on qHD resolution.
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Wasn't 1080p advertised when not using 3d?
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I thoughts so
sent from my DAMN 3D!!