http://htcsource.com/2013/01/new-pictures-of-the-htc-m7-and-sense-5-reveal-new-details/#That's right folks, it's been but a few months since the release of the DNA and we are already seeing HTC propose a new flagship device that will supposedly launch in 2013!
Everything below here is subject to change
The Specs (what we think we know)
-4.7 ' 1080p "Solux" Display
-32GB internal memory
-13mp camera
-2mp front facing camera (capable of 1080)
-2,300 mAh battery (no word on removability)
-aluminum uni-body chassis
-2GB of RAM
-468ppi
-1.7Ghz quad core Adreno processor
-4G LTE support (don't think I had to mention this one)
-Jellybean OS
-Possibly Sense 5
-Possible 4-carrier support
-Beats audio integration
Expandable memory options are not yet known but are most likely non existent
What I think right now is we will see this show cased at Mobile World Congress.
I will update this thread as news comes out about this beast and openly encourage whomever may read this to correct any errors I have made
Feel free to discuss any aspects about the phone in this thread, any speculation regarding anything about HTC and the M7's release, marketing, pricing, and "downfalls" is absolutely welcome so long as disrespect for other users is completely non-existent.
Update 1/21/2013:
Sorry for not updating way sooner however I have been busy!
Some new pictures surfaced recently of the M7, purportedly running Sense 5, which as some of you know has not been released yet. Pictures are here!
Furthermore, there have been some more rumors which indicate a possible announcement of this handset at MWC!
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Oooo, seems like it would be a nice device. However I have no idea why you would need a 1080p display on a 4.7" device, but if it doesnt absolutly drain the battery why not?
jon7701 said:
Oooo, seems like it would be a nice device. However I have no idea why you would need a 1080p display on a 4.7" device, but if it doesnt absolutly drain the battery why not?
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Absolutely agreed friend, however from what I have heard the DNA's battery already holds up well with a 5' display to power. Should be interesting to see some of the opinions regarding battery for this
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Its hard to believe they just came out with the DNA and were already talking about a new device that is slightly better on paper spec wise. I think it might make a few people mad since they just bought the DNA and now there is already something new.
Sounds like a neat phone
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Its hard to believe they just came out with the DNA and were already talking about a new device that is slightly better on paper spec wise. I think it might make a few people mad since they just bought the DNA and now there is already something new.
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I had believed from the start that they were going to release something a bit better shortly after that would have larger memory, just a marketing ploy I suppose
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Sounds like a neat phone
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I like the unibody aluminium chassis idea...definitely doesn't make a phone look or feel cheap
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I like the unibody aluminium chassis idea...definitely doesn't make a phone look or feel cheap
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Yea, i like the aluminium as well, it should also give the phone a bit more durability.
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Yea, i like the aluminium as well, it should also give the phone a bit more durability.
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Bingo my rez is beat!
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After the DNA flop, I'll be keeping a close eye on this one. I've gotta move up to something eventually LOL.
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After the DNA flop, I'll be keeping a close eye on this one. I've gotta move up to something eventually LOL.
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Flop? I love mine.
This phone sounds pretty sweet tho from all of the rumors. :good:
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Flop? I love mine.
This phone sounds pretty sweet tho from all of the rumors. :good:
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Technologically, it is a beast but it is hamstrung by a lack of storage and a questionable battery. Whether HTC or Verizon is to blame we'll never know. Either way, it missed the mark. I have to believe its not just the hard core crowd that noticed. Their announcement on Facebook was absolutely blasted by comments pointing out these omissions.
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Technologically, it is a beast but it is hamstrung by a lack of storage and a questionable battery. Whether HTC or Verizon is to blame we'll never know. Either way, it missed the mark. I have to believe its not just the hard core crowd that noticed. Their announcement on Facebook was absolutely blasted by comments pointing out these omissions.
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Was Verizon. HTC wouldn't release the butterfly with the storage and omit it in the US. Verizon wishing everyone was streaming it more likely the culprit. Tis true, lots of people were upset. The DNA isn't a bad device, just limited.
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Technologically, it is a beast but it is hamstrung by a lack of storage and a questionable battery. Whether HTC or Verizon is to blame we'll never know. Either way, it missed the mark. I have to believe its not just the hard core crowd that noticed. Their announcement on Facebook was absolutely blasted by comments pointing out these omissions.
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I agree with what you are saying for the most part. I agree it got blasted for its "small" battery before it was even used by anyone, which put a sour taste in a lot of mouths. After owning mine since the week after launch, I have nothing but amazing things to say about the numerically "small" battery. I was skeptical at first, but it turned out far from questionable for me, and the added rigidity of the non-removable back is great. I hate squeaks and creeks.
The storage gripe I completely understand. Personally it has had no effect on me, but I can sympathize for those who need/want more, especially in a day and age where file sizes are massive and people spend multiple hours on their phones.
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Apparently the chipset is substantially different; dedicated chip for camera and special LTE chipset which has lower power requirements (as on the DNA). I'm very nervous about a non-removable battery, but I've always been OCD about that with multiple chargers and always carrying a spare battery in my briefcase. I'd also really like to see removable storage (since I have a 64g card in my Rezound).
Most importantly, however, will be the ability to unlock the bootloader and an easy way to S-OFF. My upgrade period starts around May of 2013 and hopefully by then there will be alternatives to stock for the device. I bought my Rezound the second day it was available and the first few months of no-root were painful, even though the devs came up with a temp root within a couple of weeks. If HTC and Verizon Wireless lock things down, I'm going to look elsewhere.
The non-removable storage is a total troll move by Verizon. They push you to a tiered data plan, then minimize your storage capabilities and tell you to use cloud storage forcing you to buy more data. Up yours, Verizon.
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I agree with what you are saying for the most part. I agree it got blasted for its "small" battery before it was even used by anyone, which put a sour taste in a lot of mouths. After owning mine since the week after launch, I have nothing but amazing things to say about the numerically "small" battery. I was skeptical at first, but it turned out far from questionable for me, and the added rigidity of the non-removable back is great. I hate squeaks and creeks.
The storage gripe I completely understand. Personally it has had no effect on me, but I can sympathize for those who need/want more, especially in a day and age where file sizes are massive and people spend multiple hours on their phones.
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I could live with the "small" battery as I'm never far from a charger for long. The storage was the deal breaker for me. I work a lot of 12 hour shifts, no WiFi at work, and like to have plenty of music on hand. Also, having kids, it'd tick me off if in the middle of shooting a video I'd run outta space and lose recording a memory.
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If its multi carrier it might be worth looking at. I want the note 2 so bad but I don't want that low ppi. I'm hoping the note 3 will be 1080p. However, after this one, im never buying a carrier specific phone again. And I'd almost prefer not to buy HTC phones since other manufacturers are doing better with long tern updates now. But I do love the premium feel. Just depends. But those specs are sick.
So much for HTC sticking to their game plan of spamming less phones in the market. Company is going to be RIP at this rate.
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So much for HTC sticking to their game plan of spamming less phones in the market. Company is going to be RIP at this rate.
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Well I think this is a great opportunity for them. When has "spamming" the market really gone horribly for a manufacturer? I don't hear Samsung complaining about their Galaxy line up...or Moto complaining about their Droid Razr line up. I think HTC has been too conservative with releasing devices and I think it's time they change up their game. Anything for them right now would most likely be a saving grace
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So, apparently the One X absolutely destroys the Nexus AND the Transformer Prime. Now THAT'S impressive. Looks like the Snapdragon S4 is promising.
www.product-reviews.net/2012/03/27/htc-one-x-benchmarks-on-att-embarrass-galaxy-nexus/
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Why--oh why does it NOT have expandable memory? :'(
What, 32GB ain't enough for ya?
If it comes to sprint I'm definitely getting it. Crushed the asus transformer woe that's one mighty fine dual core
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What, 32GB ain't enough for ya?
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as the product focus mostly on that oversized camera, not having the ability to hot swap memory cards for what you are filming is just fsking stupid...
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flomexico said:
So, apparently the One X absolutely destroys the Nexus AND the Transformer Prime. Now THAT'S impressive. Looks like the Snapdragon S4 is promising.
www.product-reviews.net/2012/03/27/htc-one-x-benchmarks-on-att-embarrass-galaxy-nexus/
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looks like that the biggest increases comes from switching between a 266mhz single channel memory interface (s3) to the new 500mhz dual channel one more than from core optimization (which should be still pretty nice as it is cortex-a15-like)
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Why--oh why does it NOT have expandable memory? :'(
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That irks the hell out of me, especially when SDXC cards are going to be cropping up more commonly.
Still going to buy it though.
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freeza said:
Why--oh why does it NOT have expandable memory? :'(
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Yes, my sentiments exactly, but the number one reason that I refuse to buy the x one is the lack of removable battery..... hell no to that.
Thank god for this phone. I love the non removable battery, I hate seeing phones that look like they have car batteries attached to them, no wonder why iPhone users think android people are retarded
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It says that it scored a 4900 on quadrant, but yet blows away the Transformer Prime. I've tested mine and scored an 5088 with Quadrant. Here is my proof. I am not dissing the One X by any means, I am just stating my Prime can pull the same #'s on tests. To me its how well the OS is built for the phone and what kind of developers we have to make what HTC gives us and transform it into a beast.
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Thank god for this phone. I love the non removable battery, I hate seeing phones that look like they have car batteries attached to them, no wonder why iPhone users think android people are retarded
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For me it's more about choice. You don't have to attach those large batteries but you can if you want to. And all my friends who have iPhones say after a year or so they can't hold a charge any longer. But you can't do anything about that on the iPhone. At least you can replace the standard battery on most Android phones.
But yeah two reasons I won't be getting the One is the lack of expandable storage and no removable battery. I have maps and media installed on my phone and that takes up a good portion of the memory. Also, I need to switch out batteries when I cover E3 or CES as that thing gets used a lot for SMS in communicating with the team (talking is horrible with all the noise at these things) and reading emails and appointments.
The performance does look great and I do like the car dock mode for the One. Honestly, if the Sprint variant had LTE, removable battery, and SD Card slot, I'd swap out my EVO 3D for it
I think the phone looks nice but it's not for me. I have the galaxy note which has expandable memory and battery. That's really important for me. Batteries get worn down or are defective. I had an iPhone 4 which came with a defective battery and all I could do is send it back. If it were any other phone I'd just buy a new one and ask to have it reimbursed. Who knows how the battery life will be on a device with that many cores. Hmmm... I'm still not tempted.
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It says that it scored a 4900 on quadrant, but yet blows away the Transformer Prime. I've tested mine and scored an 5088 with Quadrant. Here is my proof. I am not dissing the One X by any means, I am just stating my Prime can pull the same #'s on tests. To me its how well the OS is built for the phone and what kind of developers we have to make what HTC gives us and transform it into a beast.
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Your not comparing apples to apples there...you OC'd nodded the Prime. I'm sure they were comparing it to bone stock on both devices.
The Prime should win out GPU wise from what I've read but rest is at the very least a toss up if not S4 in favor...
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I just enabled the 1.6 that Asus put in there after they gave us ICS. Before ICS, the 1.6 config was not in there, but afterwards it was. So we, Prime owners, just enabled it. I have rooted my Prime, but have not unlocked it or flashed a custom ROM/Kernel yet.
Are there screws somewhere on the phone (like the iPhone) that could be taken off to have access to removing the battery?
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Are there screws somewhere on the phone (like the iPhone) that could be taken off to have access to removing the battery?
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I would assume there has to be, because there has to be a way for them to replace a faulty battery in case it ever happens.
I to am hating the no memory card and no removable battery.
I'm not bothered by the battery at all. If it ends up being faulty, get a new one. I can see why the people who travel a lot might miss an extended battery, but there are car chargers and a lot of other accessories that can make that more bearable.
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What about if your phone bootloops and you need to pull battery?
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What about if your phone bootloops and you need to pull battery?
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There will most likely be a three finger reboot method
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I'm not bothered by the battery at all. If it ends up being faulty, get a new one. I can see why the people who travel a lot might miss an extended battery, but there are car chargers and a lot of other accessories that can make that more bearable.
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What part of "non user-replaceable battery" didn't you understand .
I've been trying to get myself to justify a decision of which phone to upgrade to. I've been with evo since the very first batch of OG's and i'v always been indifferent towards Samsung.
At first glance I thought i'd go with the gs3 because of its sleek design and removable battery, but after dissecting it a bit, something about it just isn't as appealing to me anymore.
If I buy the LTE on the other hand I feel that i'll regret it a lot. While it is a great phone in many aspects, it is severely flawed in just as many important ones.
It's the first android phone EVER to not have a removable battery and the bootloader is as locked as ever. While these two things may be easily overlooked by some of you, I feel that any true Android fan would be torn on going with any phone from HTC's new line of ONE/EVO's just based on principle alone. Not that I have anything against it, but I just can't be the guy who buys the "next HTC Android phone" just because it's the "next HTC Android phone". When a company is blatantly disregarding the consumer I find it hard to support them.
How many times have we ragged on Apple for not including a removable battery? How many times do we brag about having an "open" operating system? How many times do we glorify our expandable memory (referring to the ONE line of phones here)? How in the hell do you not question HTC's motives at this point guys?
you can check my stats, i'v been with HTC since day one...LITERALLY. Since the G1 came out i'v been an HTC user...but come on now.
End rant. lol
I just got my hopes up for the sgs3 announcement (strangely) and thought i'd have an alternative to the LTE but low and behold...
I don't know about you guys, but the evolutionary cycle of Android seems to be taking a turn for the worst. All of the phone manufacturers are completely disregarding consumer feedback and are focusing on more processing speed in order to fool the masses into thinking that more processors equates to "better performance"... I hate to say this, but I feel they are even fooling a lot of you "tech-savvy" folks here at XDA into think we need more than 2 cores on a 4 inch phone...Same thing goes for size. How in the world are 4.7/4.8 inches becoming the standard? I thought 4.3 was the biggest justifiable size as a standard, but I guess not...Say what you want about apple, but at least they realize that a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet. (p.s I hate them more than most of you sooooooo)
i don't know if i'm just severely sleep deprived or what, but this is the first time that i'v EVER been "Anti-Android".
End rant 2.
Anyways, back to studying for finals!
Motorola Photon Q. There's your answer. And my 2¢ on your problem..
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KPAllDay said:
Motorola Photon Q. There's your answer. And my 2¢ on your problem..
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It may very well be sir.
I never would have considered Motorola in the past, but things have changed. If HTC and Samsung are complete screw ups, I don't see were else to turn...
I like how you're first post on XDA is in my thread. I'm honored.
Why did you make it seem like the open source goodness of Android is going away?
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Also your wrong moto has no removable batt and locked bootloader for sure check some facts..... Also no sd card after playing with a nexus isn't a huge deal one less thing I have to pay for if it goes bad I have a 3tb HDD I put backups on so yeah
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Why did you make it seem like the open source goodness of Android is going away?
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I meant to imply that HTC's method of locking bootloaders completely goes against Android's open source goodness.
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Also your wrong moto has no removable batt and locked bootloader for sure check some facts.....
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I never said it did, lol...
I hadn't even heard of it until the guy mentioned it. I google'd it but found no specs..It hasn't even been officially announced yet from what I read so I don't know how you know otherwise.
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I never said it did, lol...
I hadn't even heard of it until the guy mentioned it. I google'd it but found no specs..It hasn't even been officially announced yet from what I read so I don't know how you know otherwise.
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You said its the first with locked bootloader and no removable battery:...... The raze was what I was talking about deff razr maxx....
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Also no sd card after playing with a nexus isn't a huge deal one less thing I have to pay for if it goes bad I have a 3tb HDD I put backups on so yeah
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That's pretty debatable. In fact i'm willing to bet my life that the majority of Android users would argue against you.
Phones are evolving into "mini computers". Computers are not meant to have limited memory.
Also removing features like expandable memory is completely pointless.
If you read my post, I was trying to show that HTC has been very questionable lately. You may not mind not having expandable memory, but how would you justify HTC's decision to do that?
134.36 mm (5.290 in) H 69.9 mm (2.75 in) W 8.9 mm (0.35 in) D size of one x
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.2 hight .15 width.... Difference
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You said its the first with locked bootloader and no removable battery:...... The raze was what I was talking about deff razr maxx....
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"It may very well be sir.
I never would have considered Motorola in the past, but things have changed. If HTC and Samsung are complete screw ups, I don't see were else to turn...
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That's all that was said by me regarding the photon.
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134.36 mm (5.290 in) H 69.9 mm (2.75 in) W 8.9 mm (0.35 in) D size of one x
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You are confusing me
starplaya93 said:
You are confusing me
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Everyone is making it seem like the new phones are monsters with the big screens when they are not much bigger then the current phones with smaller screens... Least with over all dimensions...
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And I agree to a point about the storage thing however anyone who is a tech person knows one should always have backups no matter what and if they don't give you the option to expand then needs bigger internal space... But like I said sd card is just one more piece that fails don't get me wrong it is a nice option but i think it isn't totally needed....besides that is something else the battery has to power n everyone wants a weeks worth of battery out of a phone lol
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One X m8, easy decision.
The galaxy s 3, is still going to be a samsung, probably going to be able to cook an egg on it for being as thin as a razor with a quad in it.
I'd allow a little while before i signed up to that m8, the advertising is going to be epic for it tho, but like i said i'd allow it for a little while, let it get in the public domain b4 picking one up.
Wouldn't know about the evo LTE.
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One X m8, easy decision.
The galaxy s 3, is still going to be a samsung, probably going to be able to cook an egg on it for being as thin as a razor with a quad in it.
I'd allow a little while before i signed up to that m8, the advertising is going to be epic for it tho, but like i said i'd allow it for a little while, let it get in the public domain b4 picking one up.
Wouldn't know about the evo LTE.
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If by epic you mean hippie **** sure haha
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Everyone is making it seem like the new phones are monsters with the big screens when they are not much bigger then the current phones with smaller screens... Least with over all dimensions...
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Ohhhhh lol. I was like wth are these dimensions for?
I personally don't mind having the bigger screens, it just doesn't make sense for that to become the standard on all Android phones.
When the OG Evo came out I thought it was on the larger size, but for me it was ideal because of my hands. I never envisioned 5inch phones would become an Android standard though. I see the purpose of the Galaxy Note, but other than that it just doesn't make sense to me.
We have 7-10 inch tablets. Why do we need such a ridiculous amount of screen space on a phone. I hate to refer back to Apple, but they have a much more flourishing app market than us and they've maintained a sub 4inch screen size. Like I said though, I think 4-4.3 inch would be a pretty ideal standard.
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And I agree to a point about the storage thing however anyone who is a tech person knows one should always have backups no matter what and if they don't give you the option to expand then needs bigger internal space... But like I said sd card is just one more piece that fails don't get me wrong it is a nice option but i think it isn't totally needed....besides that is something else the battery has to power n everyone wants a weeks worth of battery out of a phone lol
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Yeah I agree 100% about having back-ups and what not.
But the principle behind releasing a "new phone" with less features doesn't appeal to me. And I highly doubt that HTC opted with not included an SD card because they were concerned with battery life.
If we were to judge usefulness of cell-phone features i'd say expandable memory is just as important as a camera. While we can debate that forever, it's my opinion because I use my sd card a lot. Much more than my camera in fact....I can't be the only one.
I also use my phone as my main media driver, whether it be music or movies, I use a lot of storage.
I wouldn't mind streaming everything since I have unlimited data and can buy spare batteries for $10 on ebay....oh wait.
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One X m8, easy decision.
The galaxy s 3, is still going to be a samsung, probably going to be able to cook an egg on it for being as thin as a razor with a quad in it.
I'd allow a little while before i signed up to that m8, the advertising is going to be epic for it tho, but like i said i'd allow it for a little while, let it get in the public domain b4 picking one up.
Wouldn't know about the evo LTE.
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The One X is out of the question for me because I'm with sprint...Even if I wasn't, i'd prefer the LTE over it any day.
I just re-read my OP and dam do I sound like a b!*#! lol.
Don't be made at me, XDA is the only thing that can keep me entertained throughout the night while studying.
All of my opinions still hold though.
I think what i'm fishing for is somebody to convince me to get the LTE because I really need a new gadget to play with.
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Probably on Launch Day.
Nope. The screen will KILL battery life like butter.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running sweet sweet Jelly Bean
Depends on the off contract price... expecting it to be around 7-8 hundred so probably not.
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Is this thread really necessary?
GrayTheWolf said:
Is this thread really necessary?
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I agree we already have the same phone in 2 other threads. Although I sound a bit like a hippocrit since I made a thread on the Japanese version when they had the dlx thread out.
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Nope. The rezound is my last HTC device. They make decent quality stuff, but they refuse to support it. (see tablets) After buying two tabs and getting the shaft, I have made a vow to not buy another HTC product. Not to mention the hoops they make us jump through just to root and rom our phones. They might aswell be dead to me.
/rant off
Delete it then fine by me. I only saw the butterfly thread and was just trying to provide some information.
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1454 said:
Nope. The rezound is my last HTC device. They make decent quality stuff, but they refuse to support it. (see tablets) After buying two tabs and getting the shaft, I have made a vow to not buy another HTC product. Not to mention the hoops they make us jump through just to root and rom our phones. They might aswell be dead to me.
/rant off
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Ok go get a samsung or moto and have fun with all the locked bootloaders
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Ok go get a samsung or moto and have fun with all the locked bootloaders
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Samsungs is easily bypassable. Which is where I plan on going. And it's not like "htc's unlockable" BL does all that much good. If it did we wouldn't need to s-off.
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Samsungs is easily bypassable. Which is where I plan on going. And it's not like "htc's unlockable" BL does all that much good. If it did we wouldn't need to s-off.
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true about samsung. moto i think has garbage hardware... can i ask what trouble you had with the htc tablets? sounds like a pretty bad experience for you to leave the company
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true about samsung. moto i think has garbage hardware... can i ask what trouble you had with the htc tablets? sounds like a pretty bad experience for you to leave the company
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Well, it started with the many replacements of the tbolt, then HTC's hard stance against updating their tablets kinda pushed me over the edge, then they updated the flyer/view to broken software and they wont even fix it. Now the Rezound is having touchscreen issues. So I'm just tired of dealing with the problems and the lack of OEM support after purchase. I appreciate the Dev community for the zound, but sammy seems to be stronger in that dept. So I think I am going to give them a shot. I won't touch Moto with a ten foot pole. It may be a bad move, but I'm willing to take that risk after all the issues I have had recently with HTC. So for me, from here on out, it's going to be Nexus, or Samsung.
Samsung is worse.
I love my Rez and I still think of it as probably one of the, if not the most undervalued android phone released to date, but I don't see myself going for yet another carrier exclusive device after this. Of course, reviews might be so great for the DNA that I could change my mind but so far I am not that impressed.
Having said that however, the lack of a LTE capable Nexus 4 kinda limits the options for those looking to upgrade atm and I really cant see myself with a Galaxy S device. Wish Sony would be given a chance at penetrating the US market, they seem to strike a fair balance between corporate dev support, hardware and software quality.
I'll be getting this. The hardware and build quality will be top notch, it can be unlocked through HTCs dev website and be able to load cm. It was between this and the note but son, I am dissapoint at it having the older gen exynos and 720p screen on a 5.5 inch screen.
no, my next phone will be honor 2 or note 2
battery is important factor to me now
i dont think i will ever came back to htc
even im sense-boy
Nah, samsung isn't worse.
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Its looking like ill most likely be getting it. I'm thinking ill be getting the DNA and one other new gen phone probably a GSM phone since I have two contracts, one with ATT and one with Verizon.
But I will be more careful than usual with this purchase. I'm currently so broke I can't afford the down payment on a grilled cheese sandwich. But this phone is a priority, and I owe it to the BAMF community. So I've been saving my pennies and will be selling some stuff to raise some funds.
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I cam say that I'll be getting one as well, I'm always into the latest HTC has to offer..
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Nah, samsung isn't worse.
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samsungs radios and signal are 10x worse.
in my house, my gs3 gets about 6kbps download on 3g.
my rezound, when its not pulling 4g in my house (which the nexus and GS3 CAN'T), pulls atleast half a meg to a meg per second. doing anything on the gs3 on 3g is terrible, and ridiculously slow. fb app won't even load. rezound loads it no problem. hell, i even tethered 3 tablets to my rezound last night and while we were all browsing at the same time, ti was STILl faster than my gs3
i don't think i'd buy antoher samsung phone ever again, and i really want the DNA...dunno if i wanna fork out 600 bones for it tohugh
So I had my GS3 for about 3 months before it experienced a 2 foot drop shattering not just the digitizer but the LCD as well. The phone was a good phone, I originally had an Incredible, moved up to the Rezound (which I loved) and then the GS3. What I have learned about Samsung is that the build quality isn't as solid as HTC's (from my experiences). I was thinking about going back to HTC with the DNA.
I just wanted some input from people who own the phone and what their thoughts are about it. Practicality, Functionality, BATTERY LIFE (very important to me) and etc.
Any comments, concerns or suggestion would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you in advance
996
For all intensive purposes the battery life is the same, if not slightly better than the s3.
And functionality and practicality is determined by you, we can't answer it for you.
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Battery life, for me, is leaps and bounds above my s3. I NEVER got 5 hours of screen time on the s3.
Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you...
Hmm. I am surprised to hear that about the battery life. I haven't read too much about the development of the DNA, is there the whole S-On or S-Off thing that the Rez had? haha
Do you guys notice a difference with the Quad core setup? GS3's dual was very quick and responsive.
Our phone is s on for the time being unless you want to send it to someone and have it opened up. But it really doesn't matter. Only things it changes is that we can't change the splash screen and radios and we have to use an app to flash kernels, besides that it is fine.
And it isn't any smoother per say, but i have seen the s3 get laggy every once in a while, that doesn't happen on the DNA. And apps definitely open faster on the DNA. And very intensive games run better.
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Hmm. I am surprised to hear that about the battery life. I haven't read too much about the development of the DNA, is there the whole S-On or S-Off thing that the Rez had? haha
Do you guys notice a difference with the Quad core setup? GS3's dual was very quick and responsive.
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I have the S3 and DNA and the battery life is virtually identical for me. Get about 4 hours screen time on both and about 15 hours with a full charge. I have the quad core S3 (international version) and the difference in performance is noticeable. On my S3 (which has 1gb of Ram) I would get lots of redraws on the home screen. Sure custom Rom's/kernels helped but did not totally resolve them. On the DNA I see no redraws or lag. Overall I enjoy the experience of the DNA more than I do my S3 so unless I am going on a long trip, my S3 stays in my desk drawer.
thank you guys for the replies. My main concern is S-Off, I know on the rezzy it made a huge difference (way easier to flash kernels/roms and etc.) Hopefully it isn't as complicated here with S-On. And I'm glad to hear about the battery life. I will most probably be purchasing one soon.
Definitely going to invest in good case.
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only thing I am concerned about is not having an SD card slot. -__-
With s on you flash roms like any other phone, and kernels you use an app called flash image gui to flash the boot.img then you just flash the modules in recovery.
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thank you guys for the replies. My main concern is S-Off, I know on the rezzy it made a huge difference (way easier to flash kernels/roms and etc.) Hopefully it isn't as complicated here with S-On. And I'm glad to hear about the battery life. I will most probably be purchasing one soon.
Definitely going to invest in good case.
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only thing I am concerned about is not having an SD card slot. -__-
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I was concerned about not having an sd slot. But then I tried Google music and haven't looked back sense.
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So I had my GS3 for about 3 months before it experienced a 2 foot drop shattering not just the digitizer but the LCD as well. The phone was a good phone, I originally had an Incredible, moved up to the Rezound (which I loved) and then the GS3. What I have learned about Samsung is that the build quality isn't as solid as HTC's (from my experiences). I was thinking about going back to HTC with the DNA.
I just wanted some input from people who own the phone and what their thoughts are about it. Practicality, Functionality, BATTERY LIFE (very important to me) and etc.
Any comments, concerns or suggestion would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you in advance
996
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Lol if battery life is a concern you are definitely looking at the wrong phone. If anyone tells you different they are in denial. Htc, along with every reviewer on the net about the Dna have all acknowledged the poor performance of the battery.
If you are looking for the best phone out, the note 2 absolutely destroys the DNA. The only thing the dna has over the note 2 is screen resolution.... on paper lol. The note 2 screen is amazing. Honestly just grab one and take a look. Add in the amazing software ( split screen, pop up browser, pop up note and pop up movie player that can all be on the screen at the same time), spen, redonkulous battery life, sd card slot, ability to replace battery and amazing support and you have greatest phone on the market. Hope this helps!
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Lol if battery life is a concern you are definitely looking at the wrong phone. If anyone tells you different they are in denial. Htc, along with every reviewer on the net about the Dna have all acknowledged the poor performance of the battery.
If you are looking for the best phone out, the note 2 absolutely destroys the DNA. The only thing the dna has over the note 2 is screen resolution.... on paper lol. The note 2 screen is amazing. Honestly just grab one and take a look. Add in the amazing software ( split screen, pop up browser, pop up note and pop up movie player that can all be on the screen at the same time), spen, redonkulous battery life, sd card slot, ability to replace battery and amazing support and you have greatest phone on the market. Hope this helps!
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Oh god here we go again...
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The battery life on this phone is great. I had a Galaxy Nexus originally and then switched from the Note 2 to this.
If you want to carry that thing around in your pocket all day be my guest but I am much happier with the DNA compared to the Note.
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Our phone is s on for the time being unless you want to send it to someone and have it opened up. But it really doesn't matter. Only things it changes is that we can't change the splash screen and radios and we have to use an app to flash kernels, besides that it is fine.
And it isn't any smoother per say, but i have seen the s3 get laggy every once in a while, that doesn't happen on the DNA. And apps definitely open faster on the DNA. And very intensive games run better.
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ummm and the fact that we only have garbage sense roms, like all 5 of them in total, which are basically just the same thing.
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ummm and the fact that we only have garbage sense roms, like all 5 of them in total, which are basically just the same thing.
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And that is your opinion. Most people consider sense the nicest looking manufacture skin our there.
And show me something like viper tweaks on a touchwiz Rom, oh wait, you can't.
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And that is your opinion. Most people consider sense the nicest looking manufacture skin our there.
And show me something like viper tweaks on a touchwiz Rom, oh wait, you can't.
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This is why I will never buy another HTC phone, the people who buy HTC phones on here do so for the crap sense rom, and will argue with everyone that its the greatest piece of software out there. I buy my phone because of the hardware, and want AOSP as my rom, not this sense crap.
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The battery life on this phone is great. I had a Galaxy Nexus originally and then switched from the Note 2 to this.
If you want to carry that thing around in your pocket all day be my guest but I am much happier with the DNA compared to the Note.
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Lol its funny that your phone seems to be the anomaly. Everyone, including HTC THEMSELVES, have acknowledged the poor battery performance. Just look at the size of your battery vs. The amount of pixels the dna is pushing. Do the math man there is reason everyone ( except for a few in denial dna owners) has pointed to the battery peeformance. Living in denial my friend. If you like your dna, kudos to you. Enjoy carrying that phone charger around all day.
If the only bad thing you can say about the note 2 is the size thats a personal thing. Im 5 11 and this phone fits in my hand and pocket beautifully. My girlfriend is 5 5 and she has no problem what so ever with the note. That speaks dividends to how great the note is if the only bad thing you can say about it is the size. Note 2 ftw
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This is why I will never buy another HTC phone, the people who buy HTC phones on here do so for the crap sense rom, and will argue with everyone that its the greatest piece of software out there. I buy my phone because of the hardware, and want AOSP as my rom, not this sense crap.
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Than go buy a nexus.
You should never buy a phone that you don't like stock, because for all you know it may never have aosp. If you don't like sense than don't buy HTC phones, same goes for touchwiz, or any other phone with a skin. Its simple as that.
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Than go buy a nexus.
You should never buy a phone that you don't like stock, because for all you know it may never have aosp. If you don't like sense than don't buy HTC phones, same goes for touchwiz, or any other phone with a skin. Its simple as that.
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trust me, if Verizon had the nexus4 I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
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And that is your opinion. Most people consider sense the nicest looking manufacture skin our there.
And show me something like viper tweaks on a touchwiz Rom, oh wait, you can't.
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Umm....no. are you serious? Look at the polls around net of touchwiz vs. Sense vs. stock. Most people prefer stock, then touchwiz and lastly sense. One of the biggest drawbacks of sense is the recent app drawer. Its beyond puzzling. Why would take up entire screen to see recent apps, including cutting away the app drawer, pull down menu and home screen? Very inefficient.
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Umm....no. are you serious? Look at the polls around net of touchwiz vs. Sense vs. stock. Most people prefer stock, then touchwiz and lastly sense. One of the biggest drawbacks of sense is the recent app drawer. Its beyond puzzling. Why would take up entire screen to see recent apps, including cutting away the app drawer, pull down menu and home screen? Very inefficient.
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Oh really, this is the first link that came up when I searched for a poll, and most others echo its results.
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/07/25/which-android-skin-is-your-favorite-poll/
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How does everyone feel about this device? I'm a year away from an upgrade so I won't be getting it, that and its not on Verizon. I really love the look of the phone, and I like Sense, just not that new UI screen.
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After the Rezound I'm officially done with HTC for good, if it want for the developer community we (luckily) have I would have bought a GNEX off contract. It's not just the Rezz either, from the thunderbolt to the One X and S HTC is consistently lagging behind. Finally and most importantly they diffuse to keep yo with android as a whole, were the years into on screen nav keys and HTC still continues to use causative buttons ( so much more screen room, still on that ugly ass green color when the blue is much more inviting it also clashes with Google apps. It looks like Motorola and sammy have finally stepped it up so that's where I am going.
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I like the design and the SD800 processor, but that's about it. Once my contact is up, I'll be moving on to some Samsung device. They don't BS about their updates and product line.
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I like the design and the SD800 processor, but that's about it. Once my contact is up, I'll be moving on to some Samsung device. They don't BS about their updates and product line.
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Guess you never saw the droid charge incident with gingerbread update. One week the phone was getting it. Then next week it wasn't. It flipped flopped like that for a few months.
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Guess you never saw the droid charge incident with gingerbread update. One week the phone was getting it. Then next week it wasn't. It flipped flopped like that for a few months.
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Samsung has been on the ball the last few phones they have released yes the charge was an abysmal failure but as of late moto and Sammy are leaps and bounds over HTC which is a dam Shame because I love their cameras, radios, screens, and design.
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If it's true that a VZW version will drop as the DNA+ in a couple of months, that will be my next phone. Identical specs to the One and it's supposed to have microSd card support as well. Basically, what the DNA should have been in the first place.
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No way. Not doing the ril stuff anymore. Really delays Rom development.
Rezound, s-off, loving it.
Pretty tempted to go with Sammy for the next phone too..ive done the Moto/LG/HTC experiences..guessing its about time for me to join the sheep of the Android world and get a Galaxy (unless the rumored Moto X phone is really something beastly). Hope the SGS4 won't disappoint, not a fan of their design and build quality but hard to be disappointed with their hardware and software. I'll probably still be on the Rez for a bit longer anyway though..VZW will probably lag way behind again in releasing the SGS4, and I hate paying full upgrade pricing when I can wait 2 or 3 months and have the price halved or even better. Still love the Rez in its own right. I never had any real complaints about the Rez (and yes, especially because of the amazing devs we have here) but I hope my next phone is 1. Lighter (it's about the same weight as my old Droid 2 for god's sake) 2. is considerably better on battery life. Camera/reception/screen etc. I think have always been fantastic on this device.
I am VERY curious though to see a battery test on the HTC One..battery seems like it's fairly decent in capacity, but I wonder how much more (if even) that new cpu will get out of it.
Its nice to see community members react to a failing company ... What's a good phone with out good software and documentation... I mean look at the lg optimus age or the moto artix HD you'll understand
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Its nice to see community members react to a failing company ... What's a good phone with out good software and documentation... I mean look at the lg optimus age or the moto artix HD you'll understand
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I'm not understanding this. HTC is a failing company because they are failing the consumers that were once loyal. My first phone was the DINC and I love that thing, I still love my Rezound as well it's a great phone and I got so much more than with the GNEX and RZR. HTC even began unlocking boot loaders for those who wanted I was really high on my HTC horse but the more and more I hear about the update problems HTC is having while others are moving forward clearly shows that buying a new HTC device is a gamble. I mean the RAZR is getting OFFICIAL JB. Another thing to consider the incredible 4g came out after the Rezound with worse specs and that was it until the DNA came out? They move a step forward them two steps back it makes no sense. I will say however Motorola is also guilty of this in Some ways with the max line just like HTC + lines. Samsung is winning the battle because sadly they are just ding it properly. I hope I see HTC make strides over the year because I will be leaving Verizon sooner rather than later. Pretty sure I'm going to switch to T-MO everything unlimited plan no contacts or carrier chains sounds amazing and new nexus devices whenever I feel like it straight from Google. Sounds like heaven.
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While it sure does look pretty, the inability to upgrade external memory via sd card and untested battery life are so far keeping me from upgrading.
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I wish phone makers and carriers would stop pushing that cloud crap. Only reason phone makers likes it is because they can stop putting a SD slot in save money and then charge the same price. The carriers likes cloud because with no more unlimited plans on many of the carriers. That means more people will run the risk of going over and they can charge outrageous overage fees.
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Non removable battery or if the phone doesn't have more that 32 gigs no sale. I don't believe in the cloud for all my data or my music. I don't like to use the cloud for privacy reasons and it drains my battery faster. Only cloud I use is my own or ssh to my own computer and get files that way. I do like this phone but my rezound experience has been less than stellar. Thinking I'll give Samsung a try on there next phone.
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That horid sense 5 ui. Eeww I'd buy a Sammy just because of that. Plus the rumored exynos 5 octa sounds promising for battery life and performance in the sgs4
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I hate anyone here who says wah the battery wah wah.
GO ON THE DNA FORUM AND LOOK HOW WELL THAT BATTERY PERFORMS. god, do none of you people do research? it'll be the same, if not better, than the dna. good god
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People cries I want more power in the CPU. Gimme this and gimme that but then they cry about battery life. That's like saying I want to take my mustang gt and make it a 1,000 horsepower but I want the same gas mileage as it gets stock. Guess what not going to happen.
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People cries I want more power in the CPU. Gimme this and gimme that but then they cry about battery life. That's like saying I want to take my mustang gt and make it a 1,000 horsepower but I want the same gas mileage as it gets stock. Guess what not going to happen.
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#fact
we need a hybrid battery
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People cries I want more power in the CPU. Gimme this and gimme that but then they cry about battery life. That's like saying I want to take my mustang gt and make it a 1,000 horsepower but I want the same gas mileage as it gets stock. Guess what not going to happen.
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Its more about total range. Put in a bigger gas tank.
If moto could do 3300 battery why cant anyone else
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Its more about total range. Put in a bigger gas tank.
If moto could do 3300 battery why cant anyone else
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dude a bigger gas tank doesn't solve that at all hahaha you're still getting horrible mielage out of the engine with all that power. just bc you have a 25 gallon tank now doesn't mean you're going to get more than 10mpg lol
everybody cries about battery. i don't care; i carry my backpack with me where i go, which includes a charger, 2 spare batteries, and my 10,000mah external charger. and at home, i've got a 5500mah solar external charger by Joos. to me, battery life isn't a big deal. my DNA got the same/better battery life than my S3 does.
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dude a bigger gas tank doesn't solve that at all hahaha you're still getting horrible mielage out of the engine with all that power. just bc you have a 25 gallon tank now doesn't mean you're going to get more than 10mpg lol
everybody cries about battery. i don't care; i carry my backpack with me where i go, which includes a charger, 2 spare batteries, and my 10,000mah external charger. and at home, i've got a 5500mah solar external charger by Joos. to me, battery life isn't a big deal. my DNA got the same/better battery life than my S3 does.
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A bit of tact would flatter you, unless you're a teenie bopper, in which case I'll forgive you. You have a point and while the software and hardware has steadily improved in utilizing the batteries, I d still say it's still far from ideal.
I'm glad you don't mind carrying all that extra stuff around but I'd like to be able to rely on the device and the battery that comes with it, rather than having to resort to additional measures.