So long, farewell..... - HTC Amaze 4G

I use to love my HTC amaze so much but suddenly I got tired that HTC doesn't care about updates especially for security flaws and such. Yes many people have written this before. I was a loyalist of HTC up until the HTC amaze came out and then suddenly they stopped listening to us and made phones without expandable memory and a removable battery.... They started to not update their phones as often as before and well I remember my first HTC device the s640, it was a great phone and I maintained my loyalty through the days of the touch diamond and all those other windows phones. Anyways this is Me saying good bye and I've found a greener pasture to graze on now.... I love my galaxy note 2 a lot and like the fact that samsung still listens to their customers needs and wants. Sorry HTC our love was great till you stopped supporting your devices.
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So every time someone upgrades from the amaze are we going to see another sob story on how HTC blows? Just get your new phone and be happy with it.

I already made a thread for all these sob story guys
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well you I can understand, you contribute alot to the amaze forums, but every n00b saying goodbye....:silly: nobody cares

nelly_85 said:
I use to love my HTC amaze so much but suddenly I got tired that HTC doesn't care about updates especially for security flaws and such. Yes many people have written this before. I was a loyalist of HTC up until the HTC amaze came out and then suddenly they stopped listening to us and made phones without expandable memory and a removable battery.... They started to not update their phones as often as before and well I remember my first HTC device the s640, it was a great phone and I maintained my loyalty through the days of the touch diamond and all those other windows phones. Anyways this is Me saying good bye and I've found a greener pasture to graze on now.... I love my galaxy note 2 a lot and like the fact that samsung still listens to their customers needs and wants. Sorry HTC our love was great till you stopped supporting your devices.
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dood, you need a tissue?

Sounds like he's breaking up a long relationship with a woman rather than a phone.
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Got my Nexus 4 today and I don't need to cry about leaving HTC like OP. It's just a phone after all.

Funny, I just seen the perfect place for this post. Hmm, where was it? O that's right! It's herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1571211
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I upgraded a couple months ago to the SGSNote and love it but I still have my Amaze for the simple point that I still think it rocks. I love the camera and all the custom ROMs here.

yo2boy said:
Got my Nexus 4 today and I don't need to cry about leaving HTC like OP. It's just a phone after all.
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This...been on a Gs3 for months now and never said goodbye.
Ist time been back on the Amaze forums since then as I wanted to see what's up as my wife uses this phone now.
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Maybe the op somehow feels HTC. Will see all these goodbye threads, and listen to what people want. They must want phones with removable batteries, micro as slots, and updates, which Is why Samsung is in top right now. I love HTC phones but they haven't made a phone I'd buy since the amaze!
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This thread is still open???
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This thread is still open???
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HTC Amaze mods are always kinda slow to the party
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Finally a place where I can vent!
I got a hold of a Atnt S3, i747, had a cracked screen, fixed it, sim unlocked it, put aside my amaze... and omg I was blown away!
How can I ever go back to my amaze?
All I want on my Amaze is a good ROM with little to no glitches. Instead I am stuck with Energy, bluetooth works when it wants to, won't always come back out of the black screen, slow, etc
If I could use my S3 i747 effectively on my Tmobil lane I would throw away the amaze. Tired of just "dealing with it" and it's hard to defend the amaze nowadays.
So sad..

F9zSlavik said:
Finally a place where I can vent!
I got a hold of a Atnt S3, i747, had a cracked screen, fixed it, sim unlocked it, put aside my amaze... and omg I was blown away!
How can I ever go back to my amaze?
All I want on my Amaze is a good ROM with little to no glitches. Instead I am stuck with Energy, bluetooth works when it wants to, won't always come back out of the black screen, slow, etc
If I could use my S3 i747 effectively on my Tmobil lane I would throw away the amaze. Tired of just "dealing with it" and it's hard to defend the amaze nowadays.
So sad..
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Wow. Glad u got to vent. Just fyi roms for s3 are full of glitches too (esp the aosp roms). And there are a decent amount of roms for the amaze. U sound pretty unappreciative. Mayne u should start devwloping and doing it yourself if you are so fed up that u need to vent about it.
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F9zSlavik said:
Finally a place where I can vent!
I got a hold of a Atnt S3, i747, had a cracked screen, fixed it, sim unlocked it, put aside my amaze... and omg I was blown away!
How can I ever go back to my amaze?
All I want on my Amaze is a good ROM with little to no glitches. Instead I am stuck with Energy, bluetooth works when it wants to, won't always come back out of the black screen, slow, etc
If I could use my S3 i747 effectively on my Tmobil lane I would throw away the amaze. Tired of just "dealing with it" and it's hard to defend the amaze nowadays.
So sad..
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Actually, there's always been a place for u to vent. Been there since Mar 29th when I created it. It's almost been there as long as you've been a member. right here!
Quoted from the op of that thread
"...if you have any articles to post about some other phone getting ics, or you want to cry about something, or..."

This phone has lots of ROMs, Sense 4, Sense 4.1, CM10 jellybean, AOKP,Sense 3.6 themed, AOSP/Sense 3.6 Fusions MIUI Stock Sense 3.6, we have a couple of good custom kernels and various recoveries.
What else would you want?
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Worried about my htc amaze 4g

I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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jsalazarcervantes said:
I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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Even if HTC were to discontinue the phone today it's still a 1.5ghz dual core 4G phone. The SGS2 is pretty much identical in specs. If the phones are so similar and the Amaze is no longer in production but the SGS2 is, then is the Amze "obsolete?" Your definition of obsolete must be different than mine.
+1. ^^^
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im sorry, i used a poor choice of words. i was in a hurry when i wrote this. By obsolete i meant that htc will not be supporting us and will stop sellin the phone.
With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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squish099 said:
With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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I agree. You have a two year contract when you purchase a phone with a discount. Who here thinks that T-Mobile shouldn't start offering new phones before your two year contract expires? Seriously! The phone has been out for what... three, four months now? I would say that's pretty good actually. Don't worry about the phone itself though. You still have a 1 year warranty which will still be honored should you require service. It's still a powerhouse of a phone and we're expecting an update here very soon. So... what's the problem? You guys are acting like it's the damn G1.
You know to be honest I was expecting a better phone to come out about a month after ours did. I'm surprised that it didn't. But I'm saying this to people that are suprised that in this day and technological age your phone is old and outdated before you can manage to buy accessories for it. Just look at it this way... iphone fans are constantly being screwed by Apple and their yearly releases! You wait in line overnight to buy the new iphone 4GS or whatever and nine months later Apple teases you with the new iphone 4GS2 for a super low price of $600 because you're still on contract. Else they can wait for another year for the release of the iphone 5 or whatever. It's a sales gimmick and that's all there is to it. Yet you guys are surpised to see this with HTC? Naive I think.
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
xManMythLegend said:
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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Samsung devices don't have to be worried about a locked bootloader either.
xManMythLegend said:
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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i dont see any progress on the sgs2 tmo version im further then them
Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Felinos11 said:
Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Just a phone?? Watcha you mouth!
And.....you managed to get that damn song stuck in my head.
Yes its not the end of the world its just HTC Saying ok we aren't making the phone anymore tmobile n HTC aren't going to blow u off if u have a issue with it.
They are not going to make the phone anymore because of what's on the horizon. I say in about a month or two we will see a new HTC tmobile phone.
with ICS "wink"
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jsalazarcervantes said:
I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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samsung has horrible support for their phones, except for ones running vanilla android, they are incredibly slow when it comes to pushing out os updates, im almost certain htc will give us a stable ics before samsung does with the sgs2
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Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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It might be "just a phone" but I paid a large chunk of cash for my phone and I don't like getting screwed over by Google.......not to mention Apple's bait & switch marketing.
Smartphones "smart" once you find out your phone will be semi-obsolete as is the case here with Google trying to tell software & hardware developers what to do.
stefnuts
All of this is true but don't you all feel that the htc amaze is a bad phone? You can't have a case because you lose WiFi signal, you have to put electrical tape on the back of the phone to prevent the flash from messing up your pictures at night, the haptic key light bleeds in the screen, the faceplate on the back creaks really loud when putting pressure. I did not pay over 600 for a phone to have so many problems.
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T-mo news did post an article stating that the amaze 4g is reaching "end-of-life" and will he discontinued soon. This may lower our chance of getting more dev support, but let's be thankful for who we do have which is some great developers like xboarder, faux, and now nrg... Just have patience, soom good stuff is going to be coming to us in the near future, we just need to wait. No one has a perfectly running ICS with no bugs we arent far behind guys we will have what we want soon
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I do not see why it is such a big deal they won't be producing htc amaze anymore(if that is true). anyway even the htc ville we are expecting to come out in march or the samsung bliss, they have nothing special, same dual core cpu, same speed + the camera that the amaze has is one of the best in the market. So I find all this "worried about my amaze" a little too exaggerated. and yes it is just a phone, if you are concerned just go sell it back and buy a new one when it comes out. hope your worries about the htc amaze do not keep you from living a normal life...extra stress is never good
I love my Amaze. I knew about the "flaws" before I bought it. To my amazement, it's better than I thought and read about. I fortunately do not have the creaking back cover(there's a fix), Wi-Fi range is awesome even with a case, GPS locks in seconds even inside the house, battery life last all day, awesome ROMs available (thank you devs, you know who you are, lol) the list goes on. My 0.02
In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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fuego77 said:
In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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what case do you have?

HTC Amaze Not DEAD! Check out this new AD

http://explore.t-mobile.com/verizon-att-sprint/vs-sprint/
Click the app download video on the bottom
What's ur point?
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dubt17 said:
http://explore.t-mobile.com/verizon-att-sprint/vs-sprint/
Click the app download video on the bottom
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dood, phone has been discontinued by tmo, it's not got much life in it. I just happens to be one of the 2 soon to be 3 available hspa+ 42mbps devices! once the s drops you can expect more price drops on the Amaze.
The phone may be going EOL but it's probably their best phone and is still comparable to the new One S. Also those ads are completely one sided, note that they are using an iPhone for Sprint which is only a 3G phone. I used to be on Sprint before switching to T-Mobile and their 4G service was decently quick... if you could get it.
blacksapphire08 said:
The phone may be going EOL but it's probably their best phone and is still comparable to the new One S. Also those ads are completely one sided, note that they are using an iPhone for Sprint which is only a 3G phone. I used to be on Sprint before switching to T-Mobile and their 4G service was decently quick... if you could get it.
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My friend up here has an EVO3D and never switches 4G ON. I asked him why and he said "by the time it even connects or finds 4G signal, the web pages could already have been loaded on 3G"
Don't know how accurate that is but Idk why it would take so long to connect.
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fuego77 said:
My friend up here has an EVO3D and never switches 4G ON. I asked him why and he said "by the time it even connects or finds 4G signal, the web pages could already have been loaded on 3G"
Don't know how accurate that is but Idk why it would take so long to connect.
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That would only be the case if you switch it on to check one page then shut it back off again. It does take about 30 seconds or so to connect to 4g, much like it does to connect to WiFi. Personally that sounds like a dumb excuse to not use 4g. We don't have 4g here but if we did, I'd likely leave it on all the time since my phone is near a charger all day anyways.
Shame the amaze is end of the line I actually want to go back to it. The galaxy s 2 with ICS is nice, but for me I really enjoyed messing with the amazes camera and thought sense was really cool.
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ebatr8 said:
Shame the amaze is end of the line I actually want to go back to it. The galaxy s 2 with ICS is nice, but for me I really enjoyed messing with the amazes camera and thought sense was really cool.
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i think once the price drops more development will pick up. personally i would never pay $400 for this phone, especially not now lol. gsii with ics sounds nice
The Black Amaze is not EOL. Only the white version is. I personally would choose this device over the ONE S anyday.
stratax said:
i think once the price drops more development will pick up. personally i would never pay $400 for this phone, especially not now lol. gsii with ics sounds nice
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It is nice even tho its a leak for the at&t skyrocket the awesome devs have got it working pretty perfectly for the T-Mobile s2. Ics just has subtle changes that really polish the way android works and steps performance up real well. I really like sense tho I use to have the sensation then the amaze, ended up selling the amaze but wish I would have kept it n just sold the s2 instead.
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ebatr8 said:
It is nice even tho its a leak for the at&t skyrocket the awesome devs have got it working pretty perfectly for the T-Mobile s2. Ics just has subtle changes that really polish the way android works and steps performance up real well. I really like sense tho I use to have the sensation then the amaze, ended up selling the amaze but wish I would have kept it n just sold the s2 instead.
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Wonder who you sold that amaze to tbh i dislike samsung but i would rather have the gsgii than the amaze for some reason. maybe cause its something new/different
stratax said:
Wonder who you sold that amaze to tbh i dislike samsung but i would rather have the gsgii than the amaze for some reason. maybe cause its something new/different
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So we meet again..... lol its always nice to have something different maybe I am just bored of the sgs2, but if s-off comes through on the amaze here soon then development might pick up and there will be lots of new stuff to play with on the amaze.
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ebatr8 said:
So we meet again..... lol its always nice to have something different maybe I am just bored of the sgs2, but if s-off comes through on the amaze here soon then development might pick up and there will be lots of new stuff to play with on the amaze.
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Yeah true, i dont really care for the lack of development considering im running NRGs rom and its perfect. I just havent had anything besides HTC and one moto device since the samsung behold 2 was out and that was a long time ago lol. Been wanting to try Nokia and maybe a Samsung
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Yeah true, i dont really care for the lack of development considering im running NRGs rom and its perfect. I just havent had anything besides HTC and one moto device since the samsung behold 2 was out and that was a long time ago lol. Been wanting to try Nokia and maybe a Samsung
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You not down with padphone no more?
I really want to check that thing out.
A, I like that its not made by samsung or htc and ....well the obvious its made by Asus.... Hopefully it doesn't become the phailphone....
Unless I sell this I'm going to wait for s-off and ics.
Once ics comes to the amaze, its gonna make or break this phone, sorry to say.
Im really hoping ics will relly unleash the beast I know this phone is capable of.
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freakboy13 said:
You not down with padphone no more?
I really want to check that thing out.
A, I like that its not made by samsung or htc and ....well the obvious its made by Asus.... Hopefully it doesn't become the phailphone....
Unless I sell this I'm going to wait for s-off and ics.
Once ics comes to the amaze, its gonna make or break this phone, sorry to say.
Im really hoping ics will relly unleash the beast I know this phone is capable of.
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I am very interested in it, Asus is one of my favorite companys specially for gaming, i love their ROG series. i have the Asus G74 laptop right now and plan on getting the Asus Tytan.
Note that its never good to get any phone when its just released. i wait a few months for all the problems (if it has any) to be fixed and development to start and prices to drop. while the samsung galaxy ii already been out for quite a while.
according to this site it wont be too much more than the one s: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Asus...mer-Pad-300-Get-Priced-in-Europe-264743.shtml
only $15 more for just the phone. i will wait till the price is around $400 on ebay then ill buy it in a heartbeat
edit: look at their website now. they updated the information about it. http://www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone/ you can get 102 hours of battery from padfone (the phone), the station (tablet), and the station dock (keyboard). they all use the hardware of the padfone (cpu/gpu/ram/camera), but they all have their own battery. also its all one data package (from the phone). this is going to get huge IMO.
the camera should be better than the amaze as well, has the same aperture, but a better lense made my asus.

[Q] Question about Sprint's new line up...

Hello all thanks for stopping by. I have recently moved and settled to a new area and I bought my wife's and my phone straight out so we can switch at any time (or kill the contract if we moved outta the country). My android phones thus far have been the htc hero, lg optimus s, and the evo 3D. I got the evo 3d last june because I thought that it'd be like the original (tons of support, the next big thing, a crap ton of of mods). Little did I know that they would keep a lot of the drivers closed sourced and we as a community would have a few fantastic deves but would also run devs away (not just talking about the kernel devs over the past year quite a few have dropped by then been bashed and left). So my big question to everyone and indeed what I am pondering is.... Jump to a SIII as HTC and Sprint abandoned us or give HTC another shot? Both phones will have the same processor but im worried about samsung's build quality ...however I dont want htc to get my money blindly .... or i can just wait...? I dunno ...lol what is everyone else's thoughts?
Anonamoose said:
Hello all thanks for stopping by. I have recently moved and settled to a new area and I bought my wife's and my phone straight out so we can switch at any time (or kill the contract if we moved outta the country). My android phones thus far have been the htc hero, lg optimus s, and the evo 3D. I got the evo 3d last june because I thought that it'd be like the original (tons of support, the next big thing, a crap ton of of mods). Little did I know that they would keep a lot of the drivers closed sourced and we as a community would have a few fantastic deves but would also run devs away (not just talking about the kernel devs over the past year quite a few have dropped by then been bashed and left). So my big question to everyone and indeed what I am pondering is.... Jump to a SIII as HTC and Sprint abandoned us or give HTC another shot? Both phones will have the same processor but im worried about samsung's build quality ...however I dont want htc to get my money blindly .... or i can just wait...? I dunno ...lol what is everyone else's thoughts?
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Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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t4d73 said:
Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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t4d73 said:
Ya know what? Screw HTC!!! I only got the 3d cuz I knew, or at least thought, it would be getting ics. Turns out, now I'm in the us on Sprint mind u, that I really don't think that's going to happen anymore and I'm not going to sit around and wait. Yeah I could've downgraded hboot and rooted but I just thought intentionally bricking my device was absolutely foolish and didn't trust it. So I got the gsII and within min was running a fully rooted Sprint ics leak so easily my 3 yr.old could've done it! And with the size of this screen, the super amoled display, and speed, and boy do I mean speed of.this device, I will never, ever, buy another HTC device again! Just my two cents lol!
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Sprint is the issue. They are the final step before ICS is released. Follow the order: Google releases Android to the manufacturer > HTC tweaks it an adds Sense > HTC sends to carrier. HTC is not necessarily the blame here. There is a few threads dedicated to the speculation of the ICS release. IMO, it's still coming, but, just from the timing of things, they most likely delayed it so as not to conflict with the release of their new flagship, EVO 4G LTE (pushing more people to upgrade to that).
With the amount of reading and diving in to other forums because people ask me about their phones or I have actually rooted their phones, I prefer HTC phones regardless of the Evo 3D's lack of official ICS ROM (even though there is a VM leak and three ports available for it, one of those ports is a fully functional HTC Sense 3.5, which is what I am running) and the HBOOT 1.5 [email protected] (even though it's also mentioned that having HBOOT 1.5, rooted, S-ON and recovery 4EXT is the way to go).
I prefer the Sense interface. It's my preference. I love the ease of rooting (in most circumstances). I've had my experience of rooting a Samsung Captivate. It was eh. It was easy to root, but, when it came to custom stuff, just eh.
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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GPS works fine. My wife prefers Samsungs and has the GSII. We've used her GPS several times around Savannah, GA and locally where we live and around Atlanta with no issue. Actually performed better than my Evo 3D at times.
It's more about what you like. I've had the hero, og evo, and now 3d. I still have a epic 4g I got for Christmas and my experience wasn't all that great with it until cm came along. I despise touchwiz although its getting better. Sense does make HTC phones run a little slower cause its a resource hog, but I just love sense. I suggest looking at both and deciding on what you are more comfortable with. Both the s3 and evo lte are great
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HTC or Samsung GIII
I'd have to, IMO, that the HTC is worth staying with HTC. I too thought about switching over to the SGIII but in the end, I'm going to stick it out with HTC, as the EVO 3D was my first HTC device and I will say I'm a little disappointed with their support of the device. I'll give them another chance with the EVO 4G LTE and see what happens. After all, I plan on being a smart phone user for way more than the standard 2 yr contract and will switch devices in the future if need be.
HTC has great devices and I can't stand hearing "3d will not get ics"
It's been confirmed. There are processes that have to be done before it will be out. I have seen new phones coming out with ics yes, but how many older devices have gotten officially updated yet. My buddy with T-Mobile who still hasn't seen his update. People just don't have any patience. If your on xda u have the ability to run ics. Either do it or wait.
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HTC has great devices and I can't stand hearing "3d will not get ics"
It's been confirmed. There are processes that have to be done before it will be out. I have seen new phones coming out with ics yes, but how many older devices have gotten officially updated yet. My buddy with T-Mobile who still hasn't seen his update. People just don't have any patience. If your on xda u have the ability to run ics. Either do it or wait.
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Um t-mobile gsII just got ics last night and where and when did Sprint Ever say the 3d was getting ics? I've been scouring the Web for months waiting for word and have never seen or heard Sprint officially say this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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How's the GPS on the gsII? I've never seen any Samsung with decent GPS or signal.
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Actually great! I mean I'm not in the dessert our nothing but it works fine lol.
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Um t-mobile gsII just got ics last night and where and when did Sprint Ever say the 3d was getting ics? I've been scouring the Web for months waiting for word and have never seen or heard Sprint officially say this. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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It's been confirmed for june-july release, we just need to be patient. The leak is pretty damn good so far though
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It's been confirmed for june-july release, we just need to be patient. The leak is pretty damn good so far though
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Yeah buy HTC ur right. But that's probably gsm. Can anyone produce solid evidence by Sprint though? Other than the video of a guy saying June timeframe which honestly just could have been that dudes long lost cousin lol.
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Yeah buy HTC ur right. But that's probably gsm. Can anyone produce solid evidence by Sprint though? Other than the video of a guy saying June timeframe which honestly just could have been that dudes long lost cousin lol.
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HTC why are you crippling the development of your recent devices? ive been a fan of htc. got the original G1, motorola cliq (FACCKKK WHAT A MISTAKE! hopefully moto made their devices better), nexus one, G2 and now.... the amaze
i got the amaze since day 1 of its release. hoping its development would blossom like the nexus one and G2. blehh guess it didnt! ive been looking through the threads here and it looks like HTC has issues releasing kernel sources and that severely cripples development. all we get are broken roms. its kinda irritating that HTC's dev community are practically bothering HTC about it yet they just give us generic answers lol im surprised dev's here got as far as they did without any support from htc
Im thinking about moving on to a new device... i was hoping to get another HTC phone (HTC ONE X+ anyone?) but who says that HTC might do what they did with the amaze again. Im thinking about transitioning to a new company all together? samsung? or maybe Motorola (their new QWERTY key boards are to die for). From reading reviews they look amazing but there is one issue its build quality... HTC makes the best phones when it comes to hardware. I wanted to get the galaxy nex but the specs isnt all that tantalizing. thats why im reluctant to move out. but im prlly borderline
The company thats prlly as good as HTC when it comes to build quality is SONY. Xperia S looks nice.. esp the transparent strip. But i want it to glow different colors like the xperia u. I just wish it would work on tmobile 4g. Other than that this is prlly on par to htc's build quality.
Hopefully HTC will make a new nexus device with killer specs this fall.
HTC Y U DO THIS?
I agree with u 110% I "moved on" to the galaxy nexus. And the older specs don't mean much, it obliterates the amaze in performance. But the build quality is real bad. Every time my phone vibrates it feels like its going to dismantle itself. I still have the amaze, and when I go back to play with it, its So slow and stuttery, but the phone feels so amazing in my hand I love the build quality. And the camera is MAGNIFICENT! Both phones have pros and cons! I give so much props to the Devs here they keep working at it even though htc is working against them :'(
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fuego77 said:
I agree with u 110% I "moved on" to the galaxy nexus. And the older specs don't mean much, it obliterates the amaze in performance. But the build quality is real bad. Every time my phone vibrates it feels like its going to dismantle itself. I still have the amaze, and when I go back to play with it, its So slow and stuttery, but the phone feels so amazing in my hand I love the build quality. And the camera is MAGNIFICENT! Both phones have pros and cons! I give so much props to the Devs here they keep working at it even though htc is working against them :'(
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yea! i was afraid of that... too light and too clunky. I mean the htc one S is light but it's build quality blows all of samsung's phones out when it came to that. but the development is amazing for gnex.... i want the paranoid rom ported to the amaze but thats aosp based lol and the amaze doesnt even have that yet!
htc must make the next nexus! ughhh no more samsung. i dont want to jump the band wagon yet.
considering google owns motorola now, by the time I'm ready to upgrade I wouldn't be surprised if I'll have a moto in my pocket. Aside from the build quality I can't stand for what HTC has done to its customers. I expect HTC to get worse too, so now that you know they're capable of doing what they've done, they won't get my business again
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yea! i was afraid of that... too light and too clunky. I mean the htc one S is light but it's build quality blows all of samsung's phones out when it came to that. but the development is amazing for gnex.... i want the paranoid rom ported to the amaze but thats aosp based lol and the amaze doesnt even have that yet!
htc must make the next nexus! ughhh no more samsung. i dont want to jump the band wagon yet.
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I have a case on my nexus. Still feels light and cheap. I didn't leave HTC for Samsung, I left ICS for jellybean lol
Jellybean is light years ahead of ICS and iOS lol
If htc makes the next nexus with one s/x build quality. I'm all over that like a virgin at the strip club!
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Unfortunately it's pretty unlikely that we'll be seeing any ground-breaking development for the Amaze... We've been itching for a fully working AOSP ROM for at least half a year and even though we've got S-Off, it obviously hasn't made as much of an impact on the progress of AOSP ROMs as we had hoped.
I'm still using an Amaze, stock rooted and debloated, but I've pretty much given up hope on a viable AOSP ROM for this device. I've seen so many people post about saying how this beast of a device will finally be unleashed when blah blah blah blah but honestly, a GNexus with its inferior specs will hands down beat the Amaze into the ground in performance and smoothness.
This device was a total let down. The specs on paper looked awesome at the time and the build quality looked to be much better than other phones, and yet here we are with the capacitive button light bleed, camera flash leak, squeaking backplate, and god knows what else there may be.
All I can say is that I will probably never buy another HTC device in the future because of this experience.
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I have a case on my nexus. Still feels light and cheap. I didn't leave HTC for Samsung, I left ICS for jellybean lol
Jellybean is light years ahead of ICS and iOS lol
If htc makes the next nexus with one s/x build quality. I'm all over that like a virgin at the strip club!
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One x/s build quality? S maybe but not x, x has so many hardware issues >.<
Samsung's quality is not really in question. It's just how it feels... A lighter phone is smarter and the plastic is a lot less likely to crack. My vibrant never creaked or had any weird physical issues. And chances are with a lighter phone the screen is less likely to break or crack from a fall. A lot of people like it. I personally love the feeling of the amaze in my hand. The weight gives the impression of it being more durable I like my phone having a little weight to it.
And I know there's a lot of talk about the amaze being poor but honestly I'm just happy we even got ics. Seriously, I had a sensation and this at the same time and this stock gb, compared to my sensation on ics aosp, the amaze was much smoother. May not be everyone's experience but was the case for me. Also I had multiple sensations that got dust under the screen very easily. And know several others with the same issue. I know the sensation is also HTC but to say the amaze was a failure or similar things, I have to disagree. As far as htc, yeah its a little disappointing what they've done. And Samsung is seeming to change for the better but back with my vibrant, the HTC devices I saw were getting froyo updates months before we had any signs of getting an update. Was quite frustrating. Ha back then all the talk was #neveragainsamung now it's htc. Interesting
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lorddart said:
Samsung's quality is not really in question. It's just how it feels... A lighter phone is smarter and the plastic is a lot less likely to crack. My vibrant never creaked or had any weird physical issues. And chances are with a lighter phone the screen is less likely to break or crack from a fall. A lot of people like it. I personally love the feeling of the amaze in my hand. The weight gives the impression of it being more durable I like my phone having a little weight to it.
And I know there's a lot of talk about the amaze being poor but honestly I'm just happy we even got ics. Seriously, I had a sensation and this at the same time and this stock gb, compared to my sensation on ics aosp, the amaze was much smoother. May not be everyone's experience but was the case for me. Also I had multiple sensations that got dust under the screen very easily. And know several others with the same issue. I know the sensation is also HTC but to say the amaze was a failure or similar things, I have to disagree. As far as htc, yeah its a little disappointing what they've done. And Samsung is seeming to change for the better but back with my vibrant, the HTC devices I saw were getting froyo updates months before we had any signs of getting an update. Was quite frustrating. Ha back then all the talk was #neveragainsamung now it's htc. Interesting
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Dang, you're like the 7th person I've read has gotten that dust issue, and to think I was going to buy the sensation, but decided to go with the amaze lol. I'm giving HTC one last chance, with the one x+ apparently, I'll see how it turns out, if it sucks I'll go with sammy and... Goodbye HTC
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Dang, you're like the 7th person I've read has gotten that dust issue, and to think I was going to buy the sensation, but decided to go with the amaze lol. I'm giving HTC one last chance, with the one x+ apparently, I'll see how it turns out, if it sucks I'll go with sammy and... Goodbye HTC
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Ha yeah that dust was an epidemic! And it could happen at any time /shudders freaking nightmare I tell ya! And yeah I mean every phone company has their peak and their fall. Sammy hasn't been the best with updating their devices and while we had everything else working when we finally got custom roms not based on touchwiz it took an eternity to get gps working without them releasing the drivers. And gps blew anyway. I think it took the sgs ii the same time as us to get ics. It's not that Sammy is doing great customer relation business its just that htc is plummeting, making them look good and htc isn't thinking of the customer... No memory expansion, no battery removal. That's irritating to me. The grass is always greener though! I thought I saw Sony devices are pretty decent and updated pretty quickly that's hearsay though.
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Yep no more HTC devices for me unless it is followed by Nexus. I feel like HTC really dropped the ball on this device.
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Unfortunately it's pretty unlikely that we'll be seeing any ground-breaking development for the Amaze... We've been itching for a fully working AOSP ROM for at least half a year and even though we've got S-Off, it obviously hasn't made as much of an impact on the progress of AOSP ROMs as we had hoped.
I'm still using an Amaze, stock rooted and debloated, but I've pretty much given up hope on a viable AOSP ROM for this device. I've seen so many people post about saying how this beast of a device will finally be unleashed when blah blah blah blah but honestly, a GNexus with its inferior specs will hands down beat the Amaze into the ground in performance and smoothness.
This device was a total let down. The specs on paper looked awesome at the time and the build quality looked to be much better than other phones, and yet here we are with the capacitive button light bleed, camera flash leak, squeaking backplate, and god knows what else there may be.
All I can say is that I will probably never buy another HTC device in the future because of this experience.
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i never had issues with my flash or creaking backplate... but the capacitive lights bleed is just lol come on HTC... what the **** were you thinking? you build numbers smartphones with capacitive buttons and they never bleed. WHY START NOW HTC?
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HTC why are you crippling the development of your recent devices? ive been a fan of htc. got the original G1, motorola cliq (FACCKKK WHAT A MISTAKE! hopefully moto made their devices better), nexus one, G2 and now.... the amaze
i got the amaze since day 1 of its release. hoping its development would blossom like the nexus one and G2. blehh guess it didnt! ive been looking through the threads here and it looks like HTC has issues releasing kernel sources and that severely cripples development. all we get are broken roms. its kinda irritating that HTC's dev community are practically bothering HTC about it yet they just give us generic answers lol im surprised dev's here got as far as they did without any support from htc
Im thinking about moving on to a new device... i was hoping to get another HTC phone (HTC ONE X+ anyone?) but who says that HTC might do what they did with the amaze again. Im thinking about transitioning to a new company all together? samsung? or maybe Motorola (their new QWERTY key boards are to die for). From reading reviews they look amazing but there is one issue its build quality... HTC makes the best phones when it comes to hardware. I wanted to get the galaxy nex but the specs isnt all that tantalizing. thats why im reluctant to move out. but im prlly borderline
The company thats prlly as good as HTC when it comes to build quality is SONY. Xperia S looks nice.. esp the transparent strip. But i want it to glow different colors like the xperia u. I just wish it would work on tmobile 4g. Other than that this is prlly on par to htc's build quality.
Hopefully HTC will make a new nexus device with killer specs this fall.
HTC Y U DO THIS?
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plus the one series.... their flagship phones should have like tons of development... but damn the one S and X doesnt have development as i thought they would be
what if jellybean is released for the one S and X... then we have another problem with the kernal and that would prlly stop their development pretty much like the amaze if HTC refuses to release kernels... AGAIN.
HTC start listening to your costumers... people who do dev work is what makes up the android community :/ and you are letting us down big time
HTC sucks might buy a S3 soon
Someone here called the amaze " slow and stuttery" are you freakin serious this phone is so speedy and doesnt freeze at all . Amaze is still a awesome phone and it is going to be for awhile
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HTC sucks might buy a S3 soon
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oh man really? you are like the amaze's last home for development so you're not gonna update your asop rom?
might just settle for a galaxy nexus
zanywood said:
Someone here called the amaze " slow and stuttery" are you freakin serious this phone is so speedy and doesnt freeze at all . Amaze is still a awesome phone and it is going to be for awhile
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I thought the same thing. Then I got the galaxy nexus, and its wp7/iOS smooth, stock not rooted or anything. And puts the amaze with a custom ROM and kernel to shame. Unfortunately. I'm not bashing, just stating facts. I still own the amaze just incase
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And htc wonders why they are closing up shop and loosing business?
Like i said i give htc a couple more years and thatll be the end.
Its a shame great products, ruined by stupid politics and horrible customer service, including a fu disposition towards customers.
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itsmarkxd said:
oh man really? you are like the amaze's last home for development so you're not gonna update your asop rom?
might just settle for a galaxy nexus
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Well of course imma update it
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fuego77 said:
I thought the same thing. Then I got the galaxy nexus, and its wp7/iOS smooth, stock not rooted or anything. And puts the amaze with a custom ROM and kernel to shame. Unfortunately. I'm not bashing, just stating facts. I still own the amaze just incase
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You also forget that the GNex is running AOSP if you tested out my cm9 rom you would know that it's speed it's simply amazing much faster then the GNex that my buddy owns

Maybe Coming back to the Amaze from an Galaxy S3

After selling my Amaze and having the S3 for about a month. I am starting to miss my amaze. Here are the reasons why:
I miss the fact that it was more sturdy. I dropped my Amaze many times, and never cracked the screen, but I dropped the S3 once, and the screen cracked.
Also even if I did crack the amaze screen, It would only have to spend $70-100 to fix it (compared to $250-300 on the S3).
Comparing the speed, the S3 is faster, but it's not major fast over the amaze. I think the Amaze was just enough for me as speed.
The amaze is a rare phone, but I like that. I like to be different from everyone else. But it's hard to be different when everyone and their mother (literally) has an S3. I'm just getting tired of looking at them. I like having a iPhone if you have an S3.
Last and not least...The Camera. Believe it or not, the Amaze camera is still a tad better than the S3s , and I miss my dedicated camera buttons.
I also saw yesterday that CM10 is coming along great, and the drivers have just been released. So I am going to give my S3 to my girlfriend for her Amaze (as an early birthday gift). I actually cannot wait to come back into the Amaze development. I kinda miss HTC sense, and HBoot lol
I clicked the thanks button by mistake but i got to say i was gonna switch to an s3 and ill still get it or wait for the next galaxy s or a better htc phone... I also think that the s3 camera is still a little lower than the amazes since i compared it to my brothers s3 but i got to say the screen looked great and size felt good on my hand....
Over all the amaze was the first big thing then they killed it with the crappy htc one s for us T-Mobile users they shouldve made it more similar to the one x
"HTC Amaze - Nightmare Sense 1.6"
"HTC Sensation - MIUI"
"LG G2x - Stock and overclocked"
"LG Thrill - Slim Stock Rom"
I was gonna switch to the nexus 4 , but the default launcher/out of the box is too boring for me... I prefer Sense, TouchWiz, stuff like that.
but glad you're coming back!
And did you know that they took the HTC Amaze off of the T-mobile web-site o:
kevinrubio1 said:
I was gonna switch to the nexus 4 , but the default launcher/out of the box is too boring for me... I prefer Sense, TouchWiz, stuff like that.
but glad you're coming back!
And did you know that they took the HTC Amaze off of the T-mobile web-site o:
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You are aware that there are launchers and CM themes that recreate the experience, right? Also, look into how to sort of recreate the experience yourself or make the screen look like what you want.
I'M OFFICALLY BACK!! I just score a Perfect Condition Amaze for $100 (it was a insurance replacement). I bought it with no battery or cover. I took my girlfriend's extra battery she had, and I just ordered a white battery cover for $7 off ebay (surprised they are so cheap, due to all those antennas arrays in there). So I should hopefully be fully up and running by Thrusday. Now I am going to sell my S3 with a cracked screen, and the other parts I have, and keep some cash in my pocket
Welcome back. With all the talent we have here its only a matter of time before we get cm9, cm10.1 and wificalling up and running in no time. The guys from cm10 have been doing a great job troubleshooting bug tracking and fixing cm10 for our device.
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I still have my Amaze after getting the GNote and will have to agree with a lot of what you said. I like that it is different enough and haven't seen one in the part of Va I'm in, of course I can say the same about the Note. I see S3 like it's a common thing to have, like calculators in the 80s and pagers in the 90s. I love the camera and the dedicated camera button, I have to say it is better than the S3 and the GNote. As far as speed it considered I think it's a close tie between the three, put CM9/10 and they seem to run the same, throw Sense or Touchwiz on them and they have their strengths and weaknesses.
Lol
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Thanks for your opinions guys. I almost bought a note 2 twice. Glade I changed my mind the last minute!
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JonathanBarca10 said:
You are aware that there are launchers and CM themes that recreate the experience, right? Also, look into how to sort of recreate the experience yourself or make the screen look like what you want.
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Yeah i know lol, it's just to plain for me
i can see where you're coming from but in all honesty the S3 is a better phone. the amaze did feel better in the hand but the s3 feels fine too
If only there was a Fully working sense 4 for the S3................
EclipzeRemix said:
i can see where you're coming from but in all honesty the S3 is a better phone. the amaze did feel better in the hand but the s3 feels fine too
If only there was a Fully working sense 4 for the S3................
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Sense on a Samsung device!? Wouldn't that hose up the space/time continuum or something?
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kevinrubio1 said:
Yeah i know lol, it's just to plain for me
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Oh...shame, it really is the best Android device. I would get it, but money prohibits me, especially since i have a Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus already...its worth it if you can, especially since you can customize to your heart's content.
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wolf_7669 said:
Sense on a Samsung device!? Wouldn't that hose up the space/time continuum or something?
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yes but devs got it booting on the international S3 and the S2
Since the the One S/X have the same S4 chip its possible i guess
JonathanBarca10 said:
Oh...shame, it really is the best Android device. I would get it, but money prohibits me, especially since i have a Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus already...its worth it if you can, especially since you can customize to your heart's content.
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you got me thinking, if i should get it or not again lol . It is true that you can customize it, so i'll look at more reviews to see if there's isn't anything I don't like, so far there's nothing
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i can see where you're coming from but in all honesty the S3 is a better phone. the amaze did feel better in the hand but the s3 feels fine too
If only there was a Fully working sense 4 for the S3................
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Ohh no doubt the S3 is a better phone (faster, very nice screen), but I'm basically saying that the Amaze is just enough for me. It does everything I want. And plus the money I save from selling the S3 will go toward a nexus 7 tablet .
DroidDonX said:
Ohh no doubt the S3 is a better phone (faster, very nice screen), but I'm basically saying that the Amaze is just enough for me. It does everything I want. And plus the money I save from selling the S3 will go toward a nexus 7 tablet .
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That is a good strategy haha
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JonathanBarca10 said:
That is a good strategy haha
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You helped me make the decision lol
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You helped me make the decision lol
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I LOVE my Nexus 7. Running PA 2.54 because 4.2 burns battery still a bit too much, so for now im sticking with 4.1. Seriously its so amazing. Its screen may not have the same punch as a AMOLED screen but its still damn good.
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+1 for the Nexus7
THE best device for the money. Hands down. Anyone whose wondering, stop and go get it. It's GREAT
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