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- I've been experienced video files (mkv, avi) in sdcard2 get deleted using Vegan Rom version beta4 & beta5.1. Some others also have same issue while using Vegan rom.
- I've added ".nomedia" file to sdcard2 as suggested but to no avail (video still get deleted).
Anyone know of a way to fix this issue?
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Same issue..... Never had this problem until flashed VEGan Beta 5....
Happens everytime I reboot the Tablet...
Yup, same happened here. It didnt' happen on the first few boot ups but this morning when I booted all the video and picture files were gone from my /sdcard2.
In the few Android years, I have never heard of that happening on a device. Is the actual file missing from the card if you pull the card out and use a reader direct with the computer? Seems it would be more an indexing issue native to the Gtablet and not the card itself. If the files are being deleted, that takes some direct I/O effort. Random file corruption would not just be exclusive to media files.
99% likely the root cause is that the Advent Vega rom does not have two storage locations and only one. This may be causing some conflicts that the devs have not picked up on yet. Still, how would it delete files?
Questions on missing files (assuming they are gone, even when pulling the card and reading card with computer):
1. Is it files that were transferred via the Vegan interface?
2. Were the files directly transferred to the card via computer and ZERO interaction with Gtablet (besides trying to view them)?
If 1, this suggests index issues and conflicts due to storage issue mentioned above.
If 2, and the files were not moved at all by the interface of Vegan, that is uncharted territory (for me).
mmracing said:
Yup, same happened here. It didnt' happen on the first few boot ups but this morning when I booted all the video and picture files were gone from my /sdcard2.
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I GOT the same here too
rushless said:
In the few Android years, I have never heard of that happening on a device. Is the actual file missing from the card if you pull the card out and use a reader direct with the computer? Seems it would be more an indexing issue native to the Gtablet and not the card itself. If the files are being deleted, that takes some direct I/O effort. Random file corruption would not just be exclusive to media files.
99% likely the root cause is that the Advent Vega rom does not have two storage locations and only one. This may be causing some conflicts that the devs have not picked up on yet. Still, how would it delete files?
Questions on missing files (assuming they are gone, even when pulling the card and reading card with computer):
1. Is it files that were transferred via the Vegan interface?
2. Were the files directly transferred to the card via computer and ZERO interaction with Gtablet (besides trying to view them)?
If 1, this suggests index issues and conflicts due to storage issue mentioned above.
If 2, and the files were not moved at all by the interface of Vegan, that is uncharted territory (for me).
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Files transfered using pc to usb interface with zero interaction with G-tablet. They were all retained with TnT-Lite before flash to Vegan B5.1.
suggestion to windows users on .nomedia file solution
I've had thing file on the root of my microSD for week now, with no issues yet - I lost all my videos prior to that, and it was due to the TnT 3.x kernel I suspect. It manifested itself fairly quickly. Before that, I'm pretty sure I used to have this issue on /sdcard, but most of my videos were on /sdcard2 so I kind of ignored it.
If you are a Windows user.....
If you are creating this ".nomedia" file from scratch in notepad, it will add a .txt extension by default. I remember this from my days in XP and I just fired up a Windows 7 VM to test this and it added that stinkin' extension. You won't even see the extension in Explorer, but it's there.
Here's a test, for Windows users ..... go into the command prompt, go to the drive where that file exists and check the file. If there's a .txt extension, you'll see it there. And, if there's an extension, it's not going to work - you need to remove it.
In Explorer, I don't think you can rename it without making extensions viewable - the easiest way is to use the command line:
Code:
ren .nomedia.txt .nomedia
Reloading my SDcard2 Now .... also renamed .nomedia thru, dos box to get true file name ext.
Any word on this problem?
I was wondering where my movies went!
Use ifile manager to create folder '.nomedia' and put all media in that folder.
All media files still retained after reboots/shutdowns.
Hope this help.
having .nomedia there doesn't do anything for me. Videos were still deleted but I did noticed that it only targets .m4v files and my .avi files were still there. I just encode to .avi now and so far so good. Videos are still there
VeganTab 5.1.1 Media WipeOut
I had transferred two dozen .avi files onto a 16GB microSD card via PC and at some point over the last few weeks, they all disappeared. I am left with only a LOST.DIR folder that is empty. Bummer. Trying the .nomedia trick now but will need to re-transfer the files later tonight. So far no issues with my other microSD card, but I had experienced quite a few no power ups after sleep recently (pushing the power button on didn't wake up the tablet and even a slight push eventually displayed the birds of total reboot) and I also have had the battery drain all the way down twice in the last few weeks. Weird.
Lost video files
The .nomedia trick worked for me under Vegan 5.11
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I actually create a folder called .nomedia and stuffed all my videos there. The problem stopped then. The bad side effect is that they do not show under the Gallery app. I open them via the file explorer.
Is this an issue with certain ROMs? I've used G-Harmony v1.2 mostly and never noticed this issue. Now I'm using the new G-Harmony-Gingerbread and still don't see this issue.
I have the same going on. Please post any fixes that anyone finds (besides hiding the files in a .nomedia directory.)
Thanks.
I'm actually still having this problem with Vegan 5.1 and supplement along with Clemsyn's kernel.
Videos may last 1 reboot or 1 day with no reboots and then they'll just disappear.
I've tried with .nomedia file (following Roebeet's advice to manually rename to avoid .txt extension) as well as the .nomedia folder holding the videos. I even used Windows and made the MP4 files read only to see if that made a difference.
I'd really like to hear some expert input on this problem! Everything has been great and this is one of my last hurdles.
I thought I was doing something wrong until I decided to do a quick search about the problem. It seems as though it would be an easy fix, but I am not a programmer by any means. I love Vegan, but I dont like to keep removing my SD card all the time. I will try the .nomedia trick for now.
This happened to me too! Gonna try the nomedia trick, too.
As it was, some of my Avi files didn't play at all.
I think I have to do a mass conversion...
I recently flashed my Viewsonic UPC300-2-2 with VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition STABLE RC1 using ClockWorkMod 0.8 using this process.
I have been working with the gTablet for several days and most everything is working very well. Specifically, I can;
1. Play compressed MPEG-4 (FFmpeg) movies
2. Sync ITunes (with Market app) and play files with stock player
3. Use wireless WAN, wireless LAN (access files on home PC), and wired USB connections
4. Access Market and install several games, Adobe Flash 10.2, live wallpapers, widgets and more.
5. Open and Edit (but not create) Word, Excel, Powerpoint and PDF type files
6. Download and read Market books
7. Very fast application launch and execution
However, I have had problems with the SDcard2 slot and a few other areas, as these observations indicate;
1. CWM skips SD backup - When running CWM backup, near the end of the backup process, I see the message 'SD-EXT not found', 'skipping backup'. I don't know if this is referring to the USB slot or to the SDcard2 slot.
2. Formatting SD corrupts system partition - when inserting my 4GB SDcard2, the system didn't initially recognize it and recommended formatting. The same card was NTFS formatted and had just been viewed on an XP machine, so I know it was working. At any rate, nothing was on the card, so I let the gTablet format it. I continued to use the gTablet, but when I ultimately rebooted, I could not boot and saw only the new animated ROM logo screen (the first thing you see on boot) flash over and over endlessly. I tried clearing cache, clearing user settings, and even reinstalling RC1. Nothing worked. However, when I repartitioned (2048,0), then the system began working again and I went back to reinstalling all my applications and re-personalizing the system.
3. SDcard2 files are being erased. I can't be certain when this occurs, but I've seen three occasions; after using CWM to backup, after rebooting in general, and after performing disk operations (create/delete folders, copy files) using a file manager. Note the files only are erased and not the containing folder - answer; I found a post to add an empty file called ".nomedia" to the root of any folder containing media. I did this by creating a new file using ES File Manager on the tablet. This worked in that I no longer lose files, but it didn't work in that Gallery and my Video players no longer can find these files. I also read that copying media files from SDcard to SDcard2 would prevent lost files. This is not the case. Copying media files from anywhere to SDcard2 will result in loss upon boot (unless .nomedia file resides on SDcard2).
4. Files readable after SD Hot remove - SDcard2 cannot be removed without unmounting (via settings, storage). This doesn't cause system failures, but what I observed is that the SDcard2 contents, after card is removed, are still accessible. I can view/play files that are no longer there. I assume there is a cache for the SDcard2 that is responsible for this behavior.
5. SD insert on Standby crashes system - SDcard2 cannot be inserted when gTablet is in Standby. If I do, then I cannot resume with one short press to the power button. The system instead performs a full reboot.
6. Screen lock turns into a reboot - Standby cannot resume after long periods, even if plugged in to AC. I've seen as little as a couple hours later, the system will not resume and must be fully rebooted.
7. Sound levels are low. When playing music or video with the stock players, I need to turn the volume to max to be heard through the built in speakers.
8. Force stop message is displayed for certain applications when the gTablet is resumed from Standby. I have seen this for Google Maps and Words with Friends only so far, if these programs are left running when the gTablet is put into Standby. Thoughts are this might be related to the wireless connection? - answer; this not related to Market problem, as I originally thought. I did several changes; I loaded VTL.Launcher 1.6.2, set wireless to never off during screen saver (advanced wireless settings), and installed the latest PERSHOOT kernel. The launcher may have solved the forced stop, but since I cannot duplicate the problem, I cannot be sure. Since it works now, I'll let that sleeping dog lie.
9. Gallery displays duplicate icons for the same file, after I copy a file over the USB link to either SDcard or SDcard2. If I try to delete an icon within Gallery, the source file is deleted, but Gallery continues to display the 2nd icon. The icon continues to display the photo miniature, and when selected, will display the photo full size. I assume this photo is cached somewhere since the source was deleted? - answer; I found a post here to clear media cache & reboot; go to Menu> Applicaions> Manage Applications> All> Media Storage> Clear Data. Reboot.
10. Clock 'option bar' is not visible. When I select the clock icon from the 'app drawer' (all application icons) view off home page, then the Clock application displays date and time and weather full page on the screen with an option bar at the bottom. However, these options aren't accessible because the home page task bar is presented on top of this, covering half of the clock option bar horizontally. It looks like the clock options are alarm, tunes, and home.
11. Button Registration - Sometimes (frequently) finger-to-screen registration isn't working and buttons do not respond - answer; I've found that gojimi has a tool that is much, much easier than calibration.ini. Find his tool here.
12. Command response sluggish - Sometimes (rarely) the gTablet seems to stall when responding to button pushes before application launches.
I've read other posts enough to suspect the SDcard2 isn't working on RC1, but was working perfectly for prior ROM versions. In my opinion, the problem seems to be cache related for this SDcard2, and something the OS does to media files only upon boot.
1. Normal behavior
2. NTFS is not supported by android
3. The only fix is .nomedia and yes it tells android not to look in those directories for media so it won't erase them. It's a bug
4. What?
5. Don't do that
6. This is a well known bug maybe solved with a custom kernel
7. Depends on the rom and the video player
8. Standby on tablet is different that a phone. Standby is a deep sleep not just screen off
9. Reboot
10. don't know
11. search "calibration.ini"
12. see answer 11
In gingerbread the internal sdcard is "emmc" and the external is "sdcard". On Froyo internal in sdcard and external is sdcard2. Some gingerbread roms have made the cards act like froyo however
Thanks, I will follow your references and report back to original post what I find out as an answer for others.
Also,
2. the NTFS was reformatted by Android to (FAT32??) whatever Android requires. The real problem I saw was that when formatting SDcard2, the reformatting process corrupted the system partition. The gTab still operated until I rebooted, then I experienced boot loops, and had to repartition.
4. Exactly! But, I'll follow your advice for #5
6. I'll search too, but if you have time, can you explain the differences in function between Kernel, ROM, OS and Hardware? I'm thinking of a system architecture diagram/flow or description.
9. Yes, if I reboot, the ghost icons are removed. However, if I again copy a photo from my XP machine over USB link to gTab, to a 'pictures' folder at the root of SDcard, then Gallery again shows two Icons groups for each picture.
2. Don't format sdcard in tablet. I just don't trust it.
6. When you install a rom you are installing the OS and the kernel. You can install custom kernels on top of that to replace the stock kernel. Try Pershoots latest and make sure you use the correct version...froyo and gingerbread.
9. I call it an Android bug. It needs a reboot to flush the cache
Whenever I plug my phone in, set it to USB mass storage, it always sets back to Motorola phone portal with a little roll back icon in the menu bar.
I need the USB mass storage to grab some files off my atrix. How do I fix this?
I was having a similar problem until I uninstalled Motorola Media Link.
close everything related to your phone. I had the same problem once and it turned out I had a cmd window open with adb commands that had been previously run on it. I'd close EVERYTHING related to your phone, restart the phone then start again.
Like someone previously mentioned about Media Link, if you right click the icon in the system tray, there is a menu in the pop-up that gives you the option of selecting what the device does by default when you connect it. By default, the option is set to Phone Portal, but you have the option of setting it to that, Mass Storage or None.
I'm not 100% certain that the second option is Mass Storage, but I know that it can be changed so that your phone won't default to Phone Portal. It should just be a matter of exiting Media Link rather than uninstalling it that or merely changing your settings in it.
I think he means the glitch where no matter what you choose on the phone itself, it will always default back to the phone portal option before it mounts the SD card as a usable USB device in Windows Explorer.
I suppose that's possible, but without being more specific, the problem could be resolved by changing the MediaLink settings. Obviously, if the problem is the one you are referring to, my suggestion would be irrelevant. =p
Anyone get PAW server working in place of Moto Phone Portal? Gawd it sucks!
1. You have to use IE or FF, which is cool because I already use FF, but when I click on File Manager it warns, "File Manager access supported on Internet Explorer only." WTF over they can't make up their minds?
2. I finally get File Manger working through IE of course and then it takes me to some DavWWWRoot web folder???
3. So I copy a couple music files - then go to the phone using Astro - find the files in my /mnt/sdcard/ folder - copy the files (won't let me cut or move) - find my "Music" folder deeper on the SD card - copy the files there - go back to the /mnt/sdcard/ folder and delete the now duplicate files.
Holy smokes is this thing awful or am I just making it awful?
Please someone help me get the much better PAW working!
Since i cant post in the development section,so i decided to post my issue in here.
I have this problem which i cant access my SD card content through the music and gallery stock apps.I tried using third party apps and it still gave the same result.The apps show no content at all.Anyone have went through the same problem?Any idea how to solve this issue? :fingers-crossed:
maybe you should try it with another microSD-Card, I also had some problems with the installation, so I had to install it many times until it really worked fine...
Issue with [ROM][JB][UNOFFICIAL] CM10 BETA1, to enable USB Media device,phone storage
Neither I (noob) can post new thread with new issue discovered... So I post this here.
This is my first post on XDA forum. I have been using the ROM now for 1 week. Gracias Zeubea!!! Neither any problems with battery drain, it lasts for 2-3 days.
Here is my issue:
THe idea was to review and put some new ringtones in /system/media/audio/ folder on phone's storage.
I shut down the phone, took out the SD card and boot it.
Then I connected it via USB to WinXP PC. Windows explorer does see Removable Disk letter, but it doesn't show its contents (folders, files...).
While there is SD card on, notification in status bar appears and you can choose to turn-on USB memory storage. When there is no card in, there is no notification and you cannot choose to view folders in phone's memory, while I could do that when I had official Froyo from HTC.
I googled a bit and found some kind solution on another type of phone (i have link, but i cannot post it, since I am noob!)
via Settings/Wireless&Networks/Storage and then choose Menu button and under additional options you can find "Connect as Media Device (MTP), which is turned off by default , and when you try to turn it on, menu hangs and it forces to close. There is 3rd option in that menu which doesn't appear on that page is, Turn on USB Mas Storage which is on.
I did further some search on XDA forum and even tried code in Terminal Emulator under su rights
persist.sys.usb.config=mass_storage,adb
and nothing happened
Is this some bug that one can expect maybe will be adressed in the future?
povejmi said:
Neither I (noob) can post new thread with new issue discovered... So I post this here.
This is my first post on XDA forum. I have been using the ROM now for 1 week. Gracias Zeubea!!! Neither any problems with battery drain, it lasts for 2-3 days.
Here is my issue:
THe idea was to review and put some new ringtones in /system/media/audio/ folder on phone's storage.
I shut down the phone, took out the SD card and boot it.
Then I connected it via USB to WinXP PC. Windows explorer does see Removable Disk letter, but it doesn't show its contents (folders, files...).
While there is SD card on, notification in status bar appears and you can choose to turn-on USB memory storage. When there is no card in, there is no notification and you cannot choose to view folders in phone's memory, while I could do that when I had official Froyo from HTC.
I googled a bit and found some kind solution on another type of phone (i have link, but i cannot post it, since I am noob!)
via Settings/Wireless&Networks/Storage and then choose Menu button and under additional options you can find "Connect as Media Device (MTP), which is turned off by default , and when you try to turn it on, menu hangs and it forces to close. There is 3rd option in that menu which doesn't appear on that page is, Turn on USB Mas Storage which is on.
I did further some search on XDA forum and even tried code in Terminal Emulator under su rights
persist.sys.usb.config=mass_storage,adb
and nothing happened
Is this some bug that one can expect maybe will be adressed in the future?
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Your funny, if you take out sdcard then try to access sdcard via USB its not going to work :banghead: because sdcard is gone, there is nothing wrong with zeubeas rom in regards to USB storage.
Oh and btw, you can't access system folder using USB mass storage mode, you can use adb on your computer to access the phones storage bits n pieces like system, data and sdcard.
For the sake of safety for your phone I think that you need to get a better understanding of how android system works before messing with your system folders!
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Your funny, if you take out sdcard then try to access sdcard via USB its not going to work :banghead: because sdcard is gone, there is nothing wrong with zeubeas rom in regards to USB storage.
Oh and btw, you can't access system folder using USB mass storage mode, you can use adb on your computer to access the phones storage bits n pieces like system, data and sdcard.
For the sake of safety for your phone I think that you need to get a better understanding of how android system works before messing with your system folders!
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dear ranger; first of all, thank you for very prompt answer. Iam glad this is very live community, where you can post any question and you get answer. With all respect, in stock ROM, both HTC and some other LG model my wife owns, when you connect via USB the phone without SD card, there is notification and dialog what sort of connection to choose (you know: charge/USB storage/...). Even CM 7.2.0 final for HTC legend has it. You can access contents of phone storage (without SD card). Haven't you tried yourself before?
Maybe you are other type of person, but my goal is not to be every day clung infront of PC passing adb commands to comunicate the phone with PC. I thought there is some simplier way to do the same. I will be glad if you can inform me where I can read more about adb commands regarding accessing and passing files across system folders.
And I don't even intend to mess with sys folders, I know for this we have zeubea type people. Simply I wanted to add few ogg files, that's it. And I know I can put same named folders /media/audio/ringtones/ on SD card and it should funcion with some minimal lag but I was curious if it is very simply to that other way. I will not even intend to mess system folders.
Have a good day. =)
I'm not sure what you want - the Legend has limited onboard flash, so you really should use your SDcard as much as you possibly can. Use Link2SD to store non-system apps on an extra partition on your card, so apps won't die when SD card's primary partition is mounted via USB.
To transfer music, connect Legend to your computer using USB, enable USB storage on phone, and copy music files to SDcard's 'music' folder. Works for me using mp3, haven't tried ogg.
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I'm also considered a noob, so I can't post in the rom dev thread yet, so here we go
I've been running this ROM for about a week, and I've had some issues that I haven't seen reported elsewhere:
Contacts: When searching for a contact, it appears that some filtering is applied, and oftentimes the contact I'm looking for is not found, although it's there when I scroll through contacts. Depending on language settings (english vs danish) the search also seems to be case sensitive, so e.g. entering 'fra', 'Frank' doesn't show up.
Also, contacts are not consistently transferred to my Parrot Bluetooth car kit. Could be bluetooth glitches
WLAN: Using Wifi Analyzer and similar apps, channels are not identified properly, but instead marked as all 0, 1 or ?. I suppose it hangs on a slightly unsuitable WLAN driver, because I haven't seen it in other JellyBean or CM10 ROMs (HTC HD2)
More issues
I just found a few threads mentioning the WLAN channel issue on select HTC handsets since CM6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022379 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891563. Unfortunately, there's no clear solution in those threads.
Hi all!
An oldie but a goldie!
I've changed from S6 32g, to S6Eedge 64g since I was running out of space.
Now I need to transfer 4000 photos (sorted by date) to the new phone. A direct copy/move from PC converts all the created dates to the current date (ie when transfer was done) which as you can imagine screws everything up royally!
Ive tried and failed in many many many ways including:
FTP
Syncing programs from pc to phone
ADB push
WEBdav
Hail marys, and praying to every god out there
They all bugger up the dates...........
The ONLY ONLY way Ive found out that works is by zipping up the original files, transferring to new phone, and unzipping locally with Total Commander. ONLY Total Commander seems to be able to unzip and preserve the dates, all the other file managers and extracting programs (I tried 10-15) out there can NOT manage this. Total Commander probably works cuz im rooted, and it can use this.
HOWEVER this only worked with smaller directories, but my main pics folder is an 8 gig compressed zip, and when I try the same way Total Commander only manages to unzip some 700 files and stops (anyone else come across this limitation?). So the only way I can manage is to zip up the original files in 7-8 different zip files and unzip locally individually, which is a big hassle.
Ive googled many threads on this problem, most of them were unresolved and some solutions refer to previous android versions or software and dont work anymore.
I'm hoping that you all dont spend four days setting up a new phone everytime ( home screen and app settings is a whole different drama! Thank you Titanium backup! iOS really has the jump on Andoird when it comes to changing phones...)
The only thing I can think of which I havent tried yet is USB OTG, since I dont have the cable. Anyone can confirm whether this method keeps the dates unchnaged?
So in your experience, whats the best way of doing this? How do you guys do it?
Why you need to store such a large amount of photos in your phone.
Did you try to sync to flickr or google photos?
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I want to have immediate access, cant rely on patchy internet connection, areas without coverage (inside a lot of buildings, or basements) and can you imagine how much it would cost when roaming?
Everybody is talking about cloud cloud cloud, without taking account that its not a solution for all sitautions..
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I managed it!
I used Total Commander on the phone through the LAN plugin function, to access my backup folder on the pc, select all files and copy to local phone directory.
You need to initiate the copy from the PHONE on Total Commander, ie pull the files onto the phone, dont copy them by drag and drop from PC.
It took a while but it was done!
Dates and timestamps all preserved and correct!
k.aalai said:
Update and for future help for people who will come across this issue.
I managed it!
I used Total Commander on the phone through the LAN plugin function, to access my backup folder on the pc, select all files and copy to local phone directory.
You need to initiate the copy from the PHONE on Total Commander, ie pull the files onto the phone, dont copy them by drag and drop from PC.
It took a while but it was done!
Dates and timestamps all preserved and correct!
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I've been trying to tackle this same problem over the last few days with no luck. I just tried total commander and it was unsuccessful. Was there anything special you did? Like you mentioned the entire copy process was initiated on the phone via total commander. However, I'm not rooted so I'm wondering if that's the issue...
k.aalai said:
Update and for future help for people who will come across this issue.
I managed it!
I used Total Commander on the phone through the LAN plugin function, to access my backup folder on the pc, select all files and copy to local phone directory.
You need to initiate the copy from the PHONE on Total Commander, ie pull the files onto the phone, dont copy them by drag and drop from PC.
It took a while but it was done!
Dates and timestamps all preserved and correct!
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Hi!
I'm facing the same problem\task as yours and I want to know how did you transfer photos TO the PC with the file creation dates saved?
Has any of you tried compressing the images on your device to a zip file and then unzipping them on the PC?
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Hello its me, the OP.
Re your question about moving files from phone to PC, I used the usual way of plugging the phone into pc by USB, and simply copying from windows explorer. Things were ok for me like that.
Or as Ibuporfen said, try zipping the pics folder on the phone, transfer the zip file, and decompress on the pc.
I think the confusion here is the difference between CREATED and MODIFIED dates.
Try copying a file locally in windows ie from PC to PC, you see it always gets the current CREATED date and not the original date. I use the MODIFIED dates as my preferred sort method, which is the common sort option in many apps, so MODIFIED date is the one that matters to me.
Are you by any chance on the pc trying to sort by CREATED date instead of the MODIFIED? If proper sorting is what you are trying to achieve, is the created date critical for you? And if for some reason MODIFIED date column is not showing up, you can always add that column in the windows file explorer.
As a general update, my procedure now, for repeated use which I do about once a week, to have a current backup of the photos on the phone is as below:
1- Get "FTP server" (by olivetreesoftware, or any other ftp Server for android)
2- Get goodsync https://www.goodsync.com/ for pc
3- Setup a sync job from phone to pc over FTP (this was the only way I cold reliably get access to the phone and its files, cuz now the USB conncection is all about MTP, music files and that kinda of rubbish, which makes it really difficult to accesses it just as a disc.
4- This way I easily copy the files from my phone, to a backup folder on a pc so i have an uptodate backup, and every week or so when I run the program, the backup folder gets updated with all the deletions and additions that have happened on the phone! For copying BACK from pc TO phone, I still use the TotalCommander method, and I think to preserve dates, phone needs to rooted....
I had to this many times recently, since for some strange reason, there was a time that some system app (Samsung S6 Edge, never found which app or why) would suddenly change ALLLLLLLL the dates of ALLLLLL my pictures to the present moment, so you can imagine how that messed up all the sorting of the pics! I had to update my ROM and thankfully this bug has not appeared again. I still get some random changes when the seconds field is set to zero, but as long as the year/day/hours/minutes are not messed up, I can live with that.
Hope this helps!
PS Cant wait to upgrade my phone, to one with an SD card, so I don't have to go through all this rubbish!
k.aalai said:
Update and for future help for people who will come across this issue.
I managed it!
I used Total Commander on the phone through the LAN plugin function, to access my backup folder on the pc, select all files and copy to local phone directory.
You need to initiate the copy from the PHONE on Total Commander, ie pull the files onto the phone, dont copy them by drag and drop from PC.
It took a while but it was done!
Dates and timestamps all preserved and correct!
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Hey where do you stay mate? Because Im about to come over to your place and KISS YOUR BEAUTIFUL FACE! ITS FINALLY WORKING! AFTER 3 DAYS OF GRINDING TO FIND A SOLUTION. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I have around 9000 plus photos that I keep with me at all times (from older iPhones, just jumped into the android bandwagon, which is why I had to do this), and its my only photo journal, and I need to access them based on the date and organization of the gallery. Its still transferring as I type this, but I know its working since I checked the gallery and the pictures that usually pop up in "today"'s folder, shows up in the right date.
Once again man, THANK YOU.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE STUCK:
Get Total commander
Get the lan plugin for Total commander:
Click on LAN, add in the static IP address, user name and password of the PC that contains the pictures you want to transfer.
Copy paste FROM THE APP itself! (Make SURE the folder that contains the pictures have the SHARE feature on in Windows.
I cant post links here yet so search for these on youtube:
'How to access files on Windows PC from Android"- by Busy Ping (I know its not Total Commander in the video, but it's the exact same process)
"Total Commander able to work around most SD write limitations in KitKat (tested on Note 3)" - By Android Police
Hope this works for you guys! Good luck!
You are welcome Vangelis!
A question though, are you on OREO, and if not are you rooted?
Cause the method/drama above is needed on pre Oreo phones, and works only on rooted devices (as I found out after lots of trial and error). The problem is/was lack of write permissions on non rooted devices, ie apps were not allowed to update the dates on files if not rooted.
I just came back to this thread to update it and add whats below, and I saw your post!
On my new S8 which I got in January, I couldn't be bothered with rooting etc, so I didn't have my pics on the new phone for a couple of months and just waited for OREO.
As I posted on an Oreo update thread elsewhere, this is now fixed on Oreo:
YEY! Finally got the XEU update!
And miracle of miracles, Google finally fixed the file write permissions, which means even when non-rooted you can copy files to the phone, and the file dates don't change. Which means that you can copy your pics etc from a PC to the phone and the file dates stay intact, so the sort order isn't screwed up! Only been waiting 4 years for this, since most phones removed the external SD card option! Now we have the SD card back, but for other apps like whataspp etc that still use the internal memory, this is finally fixed!!!!
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However, some apps (filemanagers, filesync apps etc eg Airdroid) still dont do this properly, but totalcommander works perfectly. I still havent tried a direct copy from pc to phone (by usb cable) so no idea if this simplest method works now.
As a suggestions(same as in my previous post, Im still doing it since it works very well), this is my current setup for regular backup of all my phone pics to a pc :
Put an ftp server on your android, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.ftpserver&hl=en
Get this app for your pc, https://www.goodsync.com/
On the goodsync app, add the directories on the phone you need backed up, plus the backup storage directory, and any additional options
Whenever you want to backup your phone pics, just launch the ftp app on phone, and through goodsync, backup all the new and changed pics etc to a pc hard drive through the WIFI (don't need to plug in the phone). Works great!
PS I copied my pics to the now OREO phone, first with the totalcommander through wifi (to check that it works now!), and then using a USB stick with the OTG adapter (since it was 13gigs, and then using totalcomamnder to copy from usb to internal memory). And it worked fine, so this is another method. You could also try putting a zip file on the phone and unzipping them there, which hopefully due to the fixed permissions should work also!
Hi there,
I have similar problem on my Huawei Mate 10 PRO, which runs on Android 8.0.0, with the security updates from 01.01.2018., kernel 4.4.23+. This phone has only the internal storage, no sd card. And when I am trying to copy/move files from external storage (i.e. with usb drive on OTG), then the files have the current date, the original is gone. I tried to change the date of file in the internal storage with total commander, and I get the error with no priveleges. Do you think, that this
And miracle of miracles, Google finally fixed the file write permissions, which means even when non-rooted you can copy files to the phone, and the file dates don't change.
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have to be implemented in update for my phone and only this can solve my problem?
Hello there!
I have no experience with Huawei, so cant give you a perfect answer. As far as I found out the write privilege option was implemented in Oreo, so I assume that means from the first versions of Oreo.
I can suggest a couple of things though.
1- Zip your pics on the pc, and then put the zip file on the usb card, and try unzipping to the phone (using totalcommander) . If it doesn't work, try copying the zip file first on to the phone memory and unzip from there
2- Use totalcommander to copy the files on to the phone using the network method as mentioned previously.
PS on further thoughts, try copying a file ALREADY on the phone, to a different directory, and see what the date is on the copied file. If I remember correctly, before the Oreo update, when I copied a file (instead of move) it always got a new current date, but now when I copy it still retains the original date. By checking this, you can find out if your Huawei, will or will not let an app set the date when performing a copy/move operation.
worked like a charm thanks!
Setting up sync job is confusing
k.aalai said:
Hello its me, the OP.
Re your question about moving files from phone to PC, I used the usual way of plugging the phone into pc by USB, and simply copying from windows explorer. Things were ok for me like that.
Or as Ibuporfen said, try zipping the pics folder on the phone, transfer the zip file, and decompress on the pc.
I think the confusion here is the difference between CREATED and MODIFIED dates.
Try copying a file locally in windows ie from PC to PC, you see it always gets the current CREATED date and not the original date. I use the MODIFIED dates as my preferred sort method, which is the common sort option in many apps, so MODIFIED date is the one that matters to me.
Are you by any chance on the pc trying to sort by CREATED date instead of the MODIFIED? If proper sorting is what you are trying to achieve, is the created date critical for you? And if for some reason MODIFIED date column is not showing up, you can always add that column in the windows file explorer.
As a general update, my procedure now, for repeated use which I do about once a week, to have a current backup of the photos on the phone is as below:
1- Get "FTP server" (by olivetreesoftware, or any other ftp Server for android)
2- Get goodsync https://www.goodsync.com/ for pc
3- Setup a sync job from phone to pc over FTP (this was the only way I cold reliably get access to the phone and its files, cuz now the USB conncection is all about MTP, music files and that kinda of rubbish, which makes it really difficult to accesses it just as a disc.
4- This way I easily copy the files from my phone, to a backup folder on a pc so i have an uptodate backup, and every week or so when I run the program, the backup folder gets updated with all the deletions and additions that have happened on the phone! For copying BACK from pc TO phone, I still use the TotalCommander method, and I think to preserve dates, phone needs to rooted....
I had to this many times recently, since for some strange reason, there was a time that some system app (Samsung S6 Edge, never found which app or why) would suddenly change ALLLLLLLL the dates of ALLLLLL my pictures to the present moment, so you can imagine how that messed up all the sorting of the pics! I had to update my ROM and thankfully this bug has not appeared again. I still get some random changes when the seconds field is set to zero, but as long as the year/day/hours/minutes are not messed up, I can live with that.
Hope this helps!
PS Cant wait to upgrade my phone, to one with an SD card, so I don't have to go through all this rubbish!
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Even after setting up right and left folders i keep getting errors. Can u kindly give me a link or guide me how to set it up ?
will this lan method also work for normal files ? i.e. non pic files such as .m4a voice recorded files, pdf files, word, excel files etc...
thank you
Maybe a quick update from me: after switching phones I installed Whatsapp and it reloaded all media (animated gif, pics and video) from it's own backup store. And all the dates were 31 May 2018. I copied these Whatsapp folders to my linux pc over wifi using Ghost Commander and the SMB plugin. Works similar to TC, no root required.
Now the neat trick: because the date (and sometimes the time) is in the filename, I could reset dates to the original with a oneliner using touch.
After that, copied the folders back with Ghost Commander (replace always) and all was set
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will this lan method also work for normal files ? i.e. non pic files such as .m4a voice recorded files, pdf files, word, excel files etc...
thank you
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Definitely (with Ghost Commander, but TC will be the same I expect). I have copied MP3 and M4A files, .epub files, etc....
have been tryin to get my 4000+ photos to my iphone since last week. just figured out this easiest way to do this. Using the Documents app wont show the correct date and time the photos were taken. Using a .zip file wont work either. If u have the correct dates n time on the files u have on ur pc, download SHAREit to ur pc and iphone. Connect both to same wifi and probably i dont have to tell u guys how to do a file transfer.
If the dates are wrong on the files on the pc, download File Date Corrector n fix the dates.
Cheers!
We're all trying to do the same thing! It's amazing an easier solution doesn't exist off-the-shelf.
So I've just been through the same process coming here late in the game. Like you guys I've been trying to copy images from my OnePlus 3 to my new OnePlus 6 without changing date information. And here's what worked for me :
I installed RAR on both phones from the Play store. I connected an external USB memory stick using an OTG cable. As I am using Oreo I had to enable OTG from the top menu on both phones (I added the OTG option using the top menu editor) before the phones would see the external memory.
Then the process was really straightforward and extremely fast: I created RAR archives for groups of folders from the source phone directly on the memory stick - I had to give it permission to access the external drive - then I moved the memory stick to the new phone, copied the RAR archives to a temporary folder on the phone and finally expanded the contents directly back to their correct positions in the file system.
I can't believe how fast it has been compared, for example, with trying to use SuperBeam over WiFi which also changed file dates and seemed to remove exif data from images making it impossible to index them. Gbytes copied in seconds rather than minutes.
k.aalai said:
PS I copied my pics to the now OREO phone, first with the totalcommander through wifi (to check that it works now!), and then using a USB stick with the OTG adapter (since it was 13gigs, and then using totalcomamnder to copy from usb to internal memory). And it worked fine, so this is another method. You could also try putting a zip file on the phone and unzipping them there, which hopefully due to the fixed permissions should work also!
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Definitely works with a zip file unzipped using totalcommander on oreo.
I just copied a zip file from pc to phone via normal usb cable.
Then unzipped to the right folder. All dates modified correct.
Works like a charm and very easy.
Finally!! after a long time suffering with zips i accidentally found a program that saved all my pics/videos with modified dates correctly. Fast and you can use in portable mode.
Best find of the year so far! :victory: :laugh:
Download here: fosshub.com/MyPhoneExplorer.html
1 - Connect your device via USB with debug enabled
2 - Click on the Sync icon (or F1) to find the device
3 - Go to Files and choose the folder you want to save
4 - Click on the icon Download files... and choose the destination location
5 - Enjoy!!!
PS: By default it keeps a copy of everything saved in cache folder, to delete go to Settings> Advanced 2 and mark Delete filecache on exit.