So I keep seeing people posting "flash with CWM" CWM is what I have always used on my devices and when we unlocked the N2 it had TWRP on it. So my question is, does it make a difference one or the other? I was thinking of flashing over to CWM but have been enjoying what has been there since I unlocked.
Thanks guys!
sent from my unlocked and overclocked Note 2
Imo cwm is way more reliable, I've never had issues in the 5 years I've been on android and used cwm. I've heard of problems with twrp from time to time, it's up to you though. Some roms can only be flashed through cwm though.
tappin from a paranoid Note II
In the past I had serious issues with CWM and/or Rom Manager. Rom Manager often would not really load CWM when it said it did and CWM would not install roms/kernels. However, that was a few years ago and I've not used it since. I've never had an issue with TWRP and I believe that since their update a few days ago it will flash the AOSP roms too.
They will both do the job.
CWM Now..
I always used TWRP on my Thunderbolt. But now I'm back to CWM on the Note 2 so I can flash ROM's that TWRP doesn't play well with.
Is TWRP, Titanium?
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Is TWRP, Titanium?
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Team Win Recovery Project.
And OP: its a matter of preference ASWELL AS some roms do not play well one. If you are a new user to the overall custom rom scene, I suggest sticking to TWRP. Otherwise if there is a rom that piques your interest use CWM.
I believe you also have the option of swapping between the 2 on the fly, because both are available in zips.
Cwm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35396518
Just flash from your current recovery and you will be able to use it upon next reboot into recovery. Be it known that CWM doesnt play with exFat SD cards so that is a known issue.
And if you decide you like TWRP better and wany to go back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35402954
That thread should link you to twrp website to get the zip to flash back to twrp.
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I think it's all personal preference, I used to use twrp religiously until cwm touch.... I could have the reliability of cwm but with the touch functions of twrp.. No Brainer.
Sent from my rooted, and unlocked Vzw note 2 running beans Rom! U mad?
nnnnr14 said:
I think it's all personal preference, I used to use twrp religiously until cwm touch.... I could have the reliability of cwm but with the touch functions of twrp.. No Brainer.
Sent from my rooted, and unlocked Vzw note 2 running beans Rom! U mad?
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So even when people say flash with CWM like on some of the AOSP ROMs TWRP will work the same?
brodypie said:
So even when people say flash with CWM like on some of the AOSP ROMs TWRP will work the same?
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Idk haven't tried but people have said either it will fail or soft brick your phone.
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So even when people say flash with CWM like on some of the AOSP ROMs TWRP will work the same?
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Some times it will. Sometimes it won't. Don't want to be too reductionist and say its 50/50 but its usually better to stick to what the instructions say unless someone in th3 thread can confirm it works for the other
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So even when people say flash with CWM like on some of the AOSP ROMs TWRP will work the same?
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twrp has assert issues with aosp roms. use cwm to flash anything cm10/aosp based...also might want to check the op of sbrissens cm10 thread!
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I just picked up a i717 and I'm trying to root via this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367. I first tried to flash CWM with odin and then I tried a root file with odin then TWRP with odin but after all of them I still cannot get into recovery (it's still stock recovery). Any help would be appreciated.
Read through THIS THREAD.
I had issues when trying to root my Bell i717 as well. All the links to everything you need should be in there...just read...and read again.
in case you miss it or read too fast..
there is a point where you pull the battery so you dont have your recovery overwritten during boot..
once i was in cwm recovery i flashed a custom rom that did not have that "feature"
nutpants said:
in case you miss it or read too fast..
there is a point where you pull the battery so you dont have your recovery overwritten during boot..
once i was in cwm recovery i flashed a custom rom that did not have that "feature"
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awesome worked great!! only problem is now the CWN odin file works but if I flash TWRP it doesn't boot into recovery any suggestions?
vince.26 said:
awesome worked great!! only problem is now the CWN odin file works but if I flash TWRP it doesn't boot into recovery any suggestions?
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no idea I'm still on cwm have not tried twrp yet
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no idea I'm still on cwm have not tried twrp yet
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ahh I c thanks. Any suggestions for which rom is best?
It all depends what you are looking for.
I want something I can record calls with, and something not bloated.. so I'm still searching for just the right Rom. I used to use wanam on the sgs2 and he spoiled me for all other developers.
written in your mud with my stick
Just got my note. Previously had the gnex. I have always used aokp. I plan to install it on this phone once i can get root lol.
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ahh I c thanks. Any suggestions for which rom is best?
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I have the Rogers note and running ICS BlackStar X as my daily driver without any issues. Been hearing good things about the Novena rom but haven't tried it out since I'm happy with my current setup.
I've been having trouble just finding a twrp recovery image for the i777. I see ones for the skyrocket but I wouldn't imagine them being compatible for this phone. Would I end up having to compile it myself, or is there some resource where I can get it from?
I've seen some kernels bundled with twrp but none with the recovery on its own.
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I've been having trouble just finding a twrp recovery image for the i777. I see ones for the skyrocket but I wouldn't imagine them being compatible for this phone. Would I end up having to compile it myself, or is there some resource where I can get it from?
I've seen some kernels bundled with twrp but none with the recovery on its own.
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Right here BUT I think it only works if your running SHOstock3 which rocks anyway!! He has a cwm & twrp version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34436037
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ThomasBags said:
I've been having trouble just finding a twrp recovery image for the i777. I see ones for the skyrocket but I wouldn't imagine them being compatible for this phone. Would I end up having to compile it myself, or is there some resource where I can get it from?
I've seen some kernels bundled with twrp but none with the recovery on its own.
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It's really simple.
Recovery on the i777 is NOT in its own separate partition. Recovery on this device is packed with the kernel.
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mcala said:
Right here BUT I think it only works if your running SHOstock3 which rocks anyway!! He has a cwm & twrp version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34436037
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I am not looking for a different kernel. I use CM 10.1, and was looking to use twrp so I could have my device encrypted and still be able to update.
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It's really simple.
Recovery on the i777 is NOT in its own separate partition. Recovery on this device is packed with the kernel.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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But I can install my own version of cwm recovery, why would that mean making a twrp image impossible?
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I am not looking for a different kernel. I use CM 10.1, and was looking to use twrp so I could have my device encrypted and still be able to update.
But I can install my own version of cwm recovery, why would that mean making a twrp image impossible?
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You must be using ROM Manager.
I will go no further
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You must be using ROM Manager.
I will go no further
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I am not using a rom manager of any kind, and do not know why you would assume that. The CWM Recovery images are available on their website, which are flashable from a custom recovery or through fastboot.
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I am not using a rom manager of any kind, and do not know why you would assume that. The CWM Recovery images are available on their website, which are flashable from a custom recovery or through fastboot.
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So you flash a recovery with recovery? For what purpose? At the end of the day if you have a borked OS and need in recovery mode you will have to use the recovery thats packed with your kernel because that is the one that responds to the three finger salute.
Oh. And fastboot? The i777 doesn't have fastboot
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So you flash a recovery with recovery? For what purpose? At the end of the day if you have a borked OS and need in recovery mode you will have to use the recovery thats packed with your kernel because that is the one that responds to the three finger salute.
Oh. And fastboot? The i777 doesn't have fastboot
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Or I flash the recovery from fastboot mode. Also usually do this to replace cwm touch, since I don't really like the interface, nor do I trust a kernels own skinned version of a recovery. The idea for getting twrp recovery is because it supports updating an encrypted rom, I believe. I wanted to encrypt my phone but still be able to apply ROM updates.
There is no fastboot mode on the i777
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There is no fastboot mode on the i777
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+1 to this! OP you're making this more complicated than it really is
@ThomasBags,
Either you are not understanding the advice you are receiving, or you are trolling. I really can't tell which. What is it about "you can not install a stand alone recovery on the SGH-I777" that you don't understand?
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@ThomasBags,
Either you are not understanding the advice you are receiving, or you are trolling. I really can't tell which. What is it about "you can not install a stand alone recovery on the SGH-I777" that you don't understand?
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I'm not sure. How am I able to install my own cwm recovery top of any kernel? You seem to be implying what I've been doing for the past 4 months is impossible.
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I'm not sure. How am I able to install my own cwm recovery top of any kernel? You seem to be implying what I've been doing for the past 4 months is impossible.
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Two possible cases:
1) you do not have a i777
2) you have been replacing the kernel along with the "recovery"
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I'm not sure. How am I able to install my own cwm recovery top of any kernel? You seem to be implying what I've been doing for the past 4 months is impossible.
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If creepy is questioning at you then you know you must be doing something wrong. You cannot just simply install another recovery. Dunno what else you're trying to accomplish but it's been very clear to you.
What he is doing is a temporary recovery. Not a good idea to try and mix temporary and full recovery. Risks abound lie in what the op is doing. I still want to know how he got fastboot on an i777
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What he is doing is a temporary recovery. Not a good idea to try and mix temporary and full recovery. Risks abound lie in what the op is doing. I still want to know how he got fastboot on an i777
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Or he is flashing a kernel that has the new recovery in it
I recently picked up a GP 4.2. I immediately got it rooted so now I'm running a 2.3.6 stock rom with root. What's the next step in terms of getting a recovery installed and maybe moving up to an ICS or JB rom? I've kind of poked around a bit but it's some what confusing with all the other types of GPs in the same area. Does anybody have a recovery and rom they'd recommend? Is using rom manager to push CWM feasible?
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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you should flash CWM via odin first and then flash the ROM via CWM
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
NapalmDawn said:
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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SerkTheTurk said:
Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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Ok thank you. However, will this work with YP-GS1?
But about kernels, on the webpage where I downloaded the stock rooted rom http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166 it says specifically that the Wifi module in system and kernel must MATCH. This is what I'm talking about in regards to kernel compatibility with roms. How do I know if a kernel I'm downloading will have changes applied to it that will work with another rom like with this stock rom/kernel?
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well I had to flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198234 to get CWM on mine. I haven't actually flashed anything with CWM because there doesn't seem to be any good roms for the 3.6 unless CM7 comes out sometime. I used Odin to flash a stock rom from here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166
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Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
MetaMav said:
I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
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ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
Xenphor said:
ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
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Xen-it seems GPlayer development is still fairly newish. the work you see from devs now are all ground work. For the 4.2 and 3.6, they seem a little less dev populated than the 4 and 5. People will build upon the work of early devs and eventually get kernels that can OC and maybe ICS and JB roms. At this stage, we likely won't see anything like ZOMG earth shattering until people spend time with the devices. Seems Serk is on his way to doing the best he can for 4.2 but I am not sure who is tackling 3.6
It's weird how roms for devices go. I learned this when I had a tbolt and shockingly saw a FUNCTIONAL JB rom for my old Eris while the tbolt was still hanging back in ginger land with not even a really good ICS rom let alone JB. I asked the Tbolt community-why? How is it the dinosaur Eris has JB and not us? It all depends on what the devs can do with the sources provided. Sometimes certain hardware points are sticky. you can have beautiful JB rom for a device that can't talk to the camera if the hardware source isn't made available (reference the HP TP for many years)
For now, flash what you're comfortable with and and learn what you do and don't like. Also learn if you want to play things safe and not experiment or take on potentially beta builds. For the tbolt, tackling an ICS rom was too dicey so I never did. On my new Rezound, I eat up JB roms as they are in much better shape
Stock touchwiz and all, didn't flash any roms but I am rooted with unlocked bootloader. Any mod I've ever wanted, I was able to do through xposed or just flash some small file. My questions is, are there any benefits to changing roms? If so, what TW rom would you guys suggest?
ThaCh0de's CockNRom v9.2.3.1 with XBrickMyPhoneX kernel seems to do the trick for me
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loudaccord said:
Stock touchwiz and all, didn't flash any roms but I am rooted with unlocked bootloader. Any mod I've ever wanted, I was able to do through xposed or just flash some small file. My questions is, are there any benefits to changing roms? If so, what TW rom would you guys suggest?
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Woohoo! Don't loose that MDK bootloader! You're one of the lucky/smart ones that didn't take an OTA update.
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loudaccord said:
Stock touchwiz and all, didn't flash any roms but I am rooted with unlocked bootloader. Any mod I've ever wanted, I was able to do through xposed or just flash some small file. My questions is, are there any benefits to changing roms? If so, what TW rom would you guys suggest?
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Install or update TWRP with Goomanager if you're on an old recovery. Just click install openrecoveryscript, that easy.
Stock TW KitKat: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721118
There are lots of improvements in JB and KK, as well as a couple fixable "issues" (e.g. sd card).
You can sell it to me and then I will give you my phone, that would be the best thing for the world.
Definitely gonna keep my MDK bootloader. The funny thing that's making me want to change is the App to SD card feature in the updates.
I'll make the switch from CWM to TWRP and give stock TW KK a shot. Are there any GS5 ROMs for us? I feel so out of it lol.
I've been flashing since the OG Droid and had close to 10 rooted phones but after getting my GS4 and having everything working perfect(including the mods, I.e. WiFi Ap), I just left it
loudaccord said:
Definitely gonna keep my MDK bootloader. The funny thing that's making me want to change is the App to SD card feature in the updates.
I'll make the switch from CWM to TWRP and give stock TW KK a shot. Are there any GS5 ROMs for us? I feel so out of it lol.
I've been flashing since the OG Droid and had close to 10 rooted phones but after getting my GS4 and having everything working perfect(including the mods, I.e. WiFi Ap), I just left it
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Some roms like echoe have some galaxy s5 ui
Give it a try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702592
Sweet, I'll give it a go. Thanks!
loudaccord said:
Sweet, I'll give it a go. Thanks!
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I'd use Flashify from the Play Store to update to a new recovery. Using Goo or ROM Manager can lead to possibly having to Odin back to stock and start fresh... Couldn't tell you exactly why but it's happened to a few of us including me.
Also... Go for a ROM like C ROM, Mahdi, or Liquid Smooth... Ditch TW
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I too have MDK so.... :highfive:! I am running Hyperdrive RLS 15 and it runs flawless. Loads of extra features if you like that sort of stuff. I used the Ktoonz Kernel with it so it comes with the KTweaker App for complete control over the kernel. Loads of battery life. Its 4.3 but if you want 4.4 then wait about a week or so and Sbreen94 will have it released (atleast that is his current time frame).
Hello guys,
Instead of flashing the near stock 4.4.2 ROM and then using Odin to flash CSc and ap, could I flash a 4.4.2 ROM like eclipse and then flash stuff in Odin?
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Hello guys,
Instead of flashing the near stock 4.4.2 ROM and then using Odin to flash CSc and ap, could I flash a 4.4.2 ROM like eclipse and then flash stuff in Odin?
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If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
Tulsadiver said:
If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
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nope, I'm talking about the mk2 to nc5 method from surge. I'm wondering if I have to flash the 4.4.2 ROM within the thread, or if I could flash another 4.4.2 ROM.
Tulsadiver said:
If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
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Anyone running a build beyond MDK has Kernel Lock and the ROMs that users can flash are using the stock kernel... There were a few instances where the kernel was lightly modified but nothing big.... I'm not 100% about the OPs question though myself since I'm in fact on MDK...
As far as what to know for MDK... The two biggest things to remember are to NEVER take an OTA while on Stock MDK Touchwiz and to NEVER use any other Odin file other than MDK... Other than those two things anything else is pretty much fair game.
You need to just root stock MDK with Motochopper then once it's rooted freeze SDM with TiBu then I suggest using Flashify to install your recovery of choice.
Once those 3 steps are done.... Make a backup of stock MDK and your into flashing !
You won't " lose" your Loki'd MDK if you do those steps before anything else whenever coming from stock via Odin.
Other than possibly flashing a bad download ROM zip or something... The only other issue I've ever ran into was flashing a kernel that didn't have the Loki patch. That will send you to the " Unauthorized Software Detected" screen at boot. Even then no worries since you can hop back into recovery and restore or try again. For situations like that someone made up the Loki Doki zip that you can flash say after flashing the Alucard Kernel. which is meant for the i9505 S4 and that will Lokify it for you.
Good practice would to be just flash either KToonsez Kernel or Alucard Kernel ( + Loki Doki with Alucard ) if you're flashing a ROM you're not to sure about.
All AOSP roms that are for " JFLTE" can detect they our bootloader requires the Loki Patch and it will take care of that during the flash automatically.
If you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a PM or ask here... Never a problem
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MisterTac, thanks for the super response. Lots of people would just say, "read up on it". I've got a couple of dumb questions. Can you flash virtually any Verizon rom? I have a hard time distinguishing between roms if it doesn't say specifically that it is for MDK. Another question is if you can't flash kernels, what exactly makes the MDK so much better than being on Safestrap (especially with all the roms Gigilie has ported)? One more thing, in your opinion what are the top five or so best roms that you can run with an MDK that you can't on Safestrap. I know you aren't really supposed to ask about best roms but I wanted to see what the difference was. Do you have to flash via odin or can you just install via recovery?
Miui
Tulsadiver said:
MisterTac, thanks for the super response. Lots of people would just say, "read up on it". I've got a couple of dumb questions. Can you flash virtually any Verizon rom? I have a hard time distinguishing between roms if it doesn't say specifically that it is for MDK. Another question is if you can't flash kernels, what exactly makes the MDK so much better than being on Safestrap (especially with all the roms Gigilie has ported)? One more thing, in your opinion what are the top five or so best roms that you can run with an MDK that you can't on Safestrap. I know you aren't really supposed to ask about best roms but I wanted to see what the difference was. Do you have to flash via odin or can you just install via recovery?
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You can most of the time flash any Verizon ROM whether it's for SafeStrap or MDK. Jrkruse also has a patch so that you can flash just about any i9505 Touchwiz ROM as well. And for AOSP ROMs like Cyanogen or Slim or the 100 other ROMs based off those you're good to flash any of them since most of them are Unified JFLTE builds that are for all LTE S4's on any carrier.
MDK is " better " or more flexible in that we can flash Custom Kernels. SafeStrap you cannot as of now. That gives you way more control over your phone. SafeStrap also only has a couple AOSP ROMs that somehow are working with it.... Where again... Our MDK ones can easily flash aosp ROMs without issue.
All these ROMs are going to be flashed through your custom recovery... Twrp or CWM. And I suggest using Flashify to install your custom recovery.
My top picks for stability and features that work best for me are currently SlimSaberKat, Mahdi, Liquid Smooth, C ROM and OSE. You're right there is no Best ROM... You'll have to just try them on your own but I'll edit this post with a couple links to these ROMs for you...
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SlimSaberKat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52865834
C ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51369881
Here's the JFLTE Unified Forum with some ROMs that will all work
http://img3.media.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/unified-development
I'm not much help with Touchwiz however... I'm an AOSP guy
Here's the KToonsez Kernel thread for our phone too. Awesome kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41798673
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Mistertac said:
Miui
You can most of the time flash any Verizon ROM whether it's for SafeStrap or MDK. Jrkruse also has a patch so that you can flash just about any i9505 Touchwiz ROM as well. And for AOSP ROMs like Cyanogen or Slim or the 100 other ROMs based off those you're good to flash any of them since most of them are Unified JFLTE builds that are for all LTE S4's on any carrier.
MDK is " better " or more flexible in that we can flash Custom Kernels. SafeStrap you cannot as of now. That gives you way more control over your phone. SafeStrap also only has a couple AOSP ROMs that somehow are working with it.... Where again... Our MDK ones can easily flash aosp ROMs without issue.
All these ROMs are going to be flashed through your custom recovery... Twrp or CWM. And I suggest using Flashify to install your custom recovery.
My top picks for stability and features that work best for me are currently SlimSaberKat, Mahdi, Liquid Smooth, C ROM and OSE. You're right there is no Best ROM... You'll have to just try them on your own but I'll edit this post with a couple links to these ROMs for you...
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SlimSaberKat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52865834
C ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51369881
Here's the JFLTE Unified Forum with some ROMs that will all work
http://img3.media.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/unified-development
I'm not much help with Touchwiz however... I'm an AOSP guy
Here's the KToonsez Kernel thread for our phone too. Awesome kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41798673
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My last dumb question for a while. You can use Safestrap with MDK? If so why (to get the slots) and what version?
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My last dumb question for a while. You can use Safestrap with MDK? If so why (to get the slots) and what version?
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Well I guess technically you could although I don't see why anyone would want to other than using it for ROM slots yes.
I haven't ran into anyone on here I don't think either with a Verizon or ATT S4 that could run a true Custom Recovery and opted for SafeStrap.
In CWM I can wipe my current ROM and restore a backup I've made in like 2 minutes tops... so the space you'd potentially lose on your internal memory having multiple ROMs loaded with SafeStrap really isn't worth it when in 2 minutes you can just wipe and restore ya know? Just my opinion
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Well I guess technically you could although I don't see why anyone would want to other than using it for ROM slots yes.
I haven't ran into anyone on here I don't think either with a Verizon or ATT S4 that could run a true Custom Recovery and opted for SafeStrap.
In CWM I can wipe my current ROM and restore a backup I've made in like 2 minutes tops... so the space you'd potentially lose on your internal memory having multiple ROMs loaded with SafeStrap really isn't worth it when in 2 minutes you can just wipe and restore ya know? Just my opinion
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How can I change from TWRP to CWM?
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How can I change from TWRP to CWM?
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Just flash in recovery like any other zip. Here is Philz Touch CWM .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/odxykfc1dch3d7a/philz_touch_6.48.4-jflte.zip
Flash that then reboot to recovery from within your current TWRP and you'll have your CWM.
If you want just regular CWM you could use Flashify from the play store. Philz is the same thing but has few more options and in my opinion why not have more right?
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Just flash in recovery like any other zip. Here is Philz Touch CWM .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/odxykfc1dch3d7a/philz_touch_6.48.4-jflte.zip
Flash that then reboot to recovery from within your current TWRP and you'll have your CWM.
If you want just regular CWM you could use Flashify from the play store. Philz is the same thing but has few more options and in my opinion why not have more right?
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Thank you. You've been a great help.
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Thank you. You've been a great help.
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Never a problem... Feel free to PM if too if you need something.
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