[Q] Android system updating - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

Hi guys. I'm having an issue. Every time I reboot my phone, instead of playing the Verizon 4G LTE logo and sound. I get a message saying Android system updating and goes into the lock screen. Everything works fine but that message is annoying me. Is there any way I can get everything to reboot like it suppose to. Mods: Rooted by Exynos exploit, Multi-window mode(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028535), System UI mod(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030539)(its the basic one found in attached files). I have titanium backup, busy box, and ES file explorer as my root friendly apps and bloatware removed. Please help.

Basically every time you reboot your phone its wiping /cache for some reason. Check to see if it's an app or boot into recovery and wipe cache there, then reboot your phone again.
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I went into the recovery and wipe the cache and its still doing it. I believe it did it when I did the SystemUI mod.

marcell6492002 said:
I went into the recovery and wipe the cache and its still doing it. I believe it did it when I did the SystemUI mod.
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when you wipe cache all the apps have to populate the cache(hince android is upgrading). you most likely have a app set to wipe cache on each boot which will cause this.

droidstyle said:
when you wipe cache all the apps have to populate the cache(hince android is upgrading). you most likely have a app set to wipe cache on each boot which will cause this.
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Sent from my rooted, and unlocked Vzw note 2 running beans Rom! U mad?

I found what the issue was was, thanks guys

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[Q] Anyone have any tips about this?

Now my head i about to explode
Anyhow, I have an annoying problem.
Before the upgrade to XXALF6 I noticed no problem other than the known drainage of the battery in idle mode.
I rooted and flashed a ROM and it was ok.
But I got sick of the ROM and I hard reset the phone.
No problems.
Then I upgraded to XXALF6 - still unrooted and all.
First thing I notice is that the phone is lagging a bit now and then. Then when I sent and recieved an SMS or two the phone hung and rebooted.
I seems that happend because when vibration was active.
Also there was a new message saying "com.google.process.gapps" stopped working. And that came up again and again.
As far as I could find online that had to do with syncing the calendar and it should help to clear calendar cache in the phone. It did not.
Then I rooted the phone, just "CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4", no other ROM.
Now the problem was even worse and also the sound stops working on and off all the time.
I tried to find the "com.google.process.gapps" with a file explorer with no luck.
I do find it in ROM Toolbox but its not possible to see the where on the phone the file is even there. Also its not possible to uninstall or even kill the process.
I did notice there seem to be doubles of some apps that I didnt notice previously to flashing CF-Root this time.
And I recall the new guide never mentions to wipe any phone data whatsoever during rooting the phone, and now I am thinking that maybe that should have been in the guide?
Anyhow.. appreciate ANY tips at all, Im so sick of this for the moment ^^
Go to cwm recovery, wipe cash, wipe dalvik cash, wipe data/factory reset, then go to mounts&storage, format system. Then put your phone into the download mode and flash ROM again with odin. This should give you a nice and clean install,without any force closes..
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pedja381 said:
Go to cwm recovery, wipe cash, wipe dalvik cash, wipe data/factory reset, then go to mounts&storage, format system. Then put your phone into the download mode and flash ROM again with odin. This should give you a nice and clean install,without any force closes..
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I did wipe all things, cache, Dalvik, battery and user data with CWM.
At the moment it seems the phone is quite okay actually! The only thing left is SU.
U think I have to format system as well? What else would really be "cleaned" out that wasn't allready with the wipes?
Trust me,some of the devs insisted on formating system before flashing their custom roms,and I did have a bunch of force closes,until I decided to go their way and fully format the phone. It then installs everything from the scratch,so there's no way anything to go wrong.. give it a try,and report back... btw. make sure that you DO NOT restore any of the system data,if you use TB
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Yeah I pretty much learnt same way as predja it is always better to do full system wipe, it is not always necessary with some roms but if you do it you won't come across the problems you have as often.
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Android is updating

I've seen a post about this one in the EVO area, but not here amongst us SGS3 owners:
When I reboot my phone, it always goes through an "Android is updating, application xxx of 3xx" counting up - and takes two or three minutes every reboot.
Is this normal under ICS?
Hmm, I'd say this is Not normal. One of the big "selling points" of the gs3 and ICS is the quick boot time. For me it is very quick. Maybe u should try doing a factory reset and see if it stops this behavior??
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ratledge said:
I've seen a post about this one in the EVO area, but not here amongst us SGS3 owners:
When I reboot my phone, it always goes through an "Android is updating, application xxx of 3xx" counting up - and takes two or three minutes every reboot.
Is this normal under ICS?
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If you're rebooting your phone after you wipe your dalvik cache, than that is normal. Reason being is that it stores applications for optimization so that the OS can run more smoothly. When you wipe your dalvik, it clears them out, and then when you reboot, it rebuilds the cache for all applications. Just do a normal reboot without wiping anything and see if it still does it.
That is not normal if it is happening on every boot, only if you wipe your dalvik cache then yes it will update.
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If you're rebooting your phone after you wipe your dalvik cache, than that is normal. Reason being is that it stores applications for optimization so that the OS can run more smoothly. When you wipe your dalvik, it clears them out, and then when you reboot, it rebuilds the cache for all applications. Just do a normal reboot without wiping anything and see if it still does it.
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Yep, just a simple reboot or even a fault / reboot does the same thing. I'm not wiping the Dalvik cache or anything. Happens every time I boot my phone, and I've noticed over the past few days that I never seem to go into 4G/LTE mode any more. Curious - I guess I've laid the hammer on it a bit too much.
Are you using a custom rom or rooted? Or are you completely stock?
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ratledge said:
Yep, just a simple reboot or even a fault / reboot does the same thing. I'm not wiping the Dalvik cache or anything. Happens every time I boot my phone, and I've noticed over the past few days that I never seem to go into 4G/LTE mode any more. Curious - I guess I've laid the hammer on it a bit too much.
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what rom r u using ????
with aokp there are setting to which the user can wipe cache and dalvik on every reboot
I read on another forum that a TitaniumBackup odex file may cause this on certain phones. Try uninstalling the apk and then re-install it.
krackerjac said:
what rom r u using ????
with aokp there are setting to which the user can wipe cache and dalvik on every reboot
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Sure sounds like it. I'm using the "Route66" rooted ROM with the Invisiblek overclocking kernel in place of the recovery.
Most likely the overclock. i ran the stock rooted 66 with no issue. I also have titanium backup installed without that issue.
id_twin said:
I read on another forum that a TitaniumBackup odex file may cause this on certain phones. Try uninstalling the apk and then re-install it.
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Worth a shot. I'll give it a rip and report back... Thanks!
hmmm... Uninstalled and replaced Titanium Backup, reflashed the stock recovery: no joy there. I'm still getting the rebuild every time I boot. I suppose when I have more time (read next weekend, I'm working 12 hours every day this weekend, then my niece is in town for a week), I'll blow it to hades and start over.
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hmmm... Uninstalled and replaced Titanium Backup, reflashed the stock recovery: no joy there. I'm still getting the rebuild every time I boot. I suppose when I have more time (read next weekend, I'm working 12 hours every day this weekend, then my niece is in town for a week), I'll blow it to hades and start over.
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Oh, well - factory reset, re-route66, invisiblek's v2 overclocked kernel. I'm good, no "Android is updating..." every time, and no mo unlocked icon on the main screen.
I dunno what I did, but the Sammy din't like it!
Thanks, guys!

[Q] Superuser No longer automatic.. help restoring Interactive Shell??

Okay, so I was on BlackBean 3 up until yesterday, when I decided to flash over the Paranoid Android ROM. After a few mix-ups and flashing BlackBean 4, only to flash back to Paranoid Android, I've encountered an issue that, if I recall correctly, began yesterday. Actually, it seems to coincide with the install of Paranoid Android, though I'm thinking it's an issue on my end since I can't find anyone else on here (or even Google) who's posted the same issue...
My SuperUSER permissions mean NOTHING now. Whenever I have my system does something that usually requires an "interactive shell", I'll get asked multiple times to "Allow" or "Deny" (between two and four times)... I've cleared the cache and data inside the app, I've installed Root Checker to make sure I didn't lose root somehow.. Tried updating Busybox (pointless).. I've done all that I've thought to do, and none of my automatic functions from root ever returned. It's kind of annoying having to watch your screen so you can press "Allow" five times before it makes a tweak to your UI or something. How do I restore my fully interactive shell???
If it helps, after my last flash of PA 2.14, I flashed the new Semaphore Kernel (albeit a few hours after I flashed the ROM).. This was my first time flashing a Kernel, but I Wiped Cache + Wiped Dalvik Cache before flashing.. Everything looked fine until my phone rebooted and after showing the Vibrant logo, it would just go blackscreen. Not even my booting animation. So I went back into Recovery, cleared Cache, Dalvik, Format/System, all that.. and then reflashed PA 2.14. I never reflashed the Kernel cause I don't know what happened the first time. Eh..
Thanks in advance!
Try flashing SuperSU zip. I don't have the zip but if you search it, you should find it. That should fix it, it did for others with this issue.
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samsgun357 said:
Try flashing SuperSU zip. I don't have the zip but if you search it, you should find it. That should fix it, it did for others with this issue.
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Thanks, I just located a zip for it. Should I do anything like Clear Cache/Dalvik first or just flash the zip??
Iam2Smooth said:
Thanks, I just located a zip for it. Should I do anything like Clear Cache/Dalvik first or just flash the zip??
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You can clear cache and dalvik but not required. FYI, clearing cache and dalvik cache regularly reduces lag.
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samsgun357 said:
You can clear cache and dalvik but not required. FYI, clearing cache and dalvik cache regularly reduces lag.
sent from the depths of helly bean
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Oh okay, I was wondering how I go about kind of "refreshing" a ROM without having to flash again. Thanks!

[Q] Laggy i717 JB - Fix or ROM?

I tried CM a while back (WAY back, actually - pre-ICS) for the i717. It wasn't bad but after a while I went back to stock because for me it just 'felt' better. Hard to explain it other than that. In any case, I've been on full stock ever since and was happy with it.
Then Official JB comes out from the carrier and my phone is laggy as all hell and it's gotten to the point of royally pissing me off to the point that I'm considering my options.
My question is this: Do we know the cause of the lag? If so, is it fixable via custom kernel or something similar, or do I need to go to a whole separate ROM to get away from the problem (and are there any in particular that are recommended if that is the case)?
tigerknight said:
I tried CM a while back (WAY back, actually - pre-ICS) for the i717. It wasn't bad but after a while I went back to stock because for me it just 'felt' better. Hard to explain it other than that. In any case, I've been on full stock ever since and was happy with it.
Then Official JB comes out from the carrier and my phone is laggy as all hell and it's gotten to the point of royally pissing me off to the point that I'm considering my options.
My question is this: Do we know the cause of the lag? If so, is it fixable via custom kernel or something similar, or do I need to go to a whole separate ROM to get away from the problem (and are there any in particular that are recommended if that is the case)?
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Check this thread out. It's titled slow 4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314464
440bro said:
Check this thread out. It's titled slow 4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314464
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I've disabled a lot of apps, but I will go back and compare to that list and see about disabling some more that I may have missed. Thanks
tigerknight said:
I've disabled a lot of apps, but I will go back and compare to that list and see about disabling some more that I may have missed. Thanks
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Have you done a factory data reset since the upgrade? That seems to clear up a lot of issues too.
440bro said:
Have you done a factory data reset since the upgrade? That seems to clear up a lot of issues too.
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I don't recall, but if I had to venture a guess I'd say probably not. I followed the above thread to the 'slow 4.1.2' and disabled everything I could on that list and did a restart, not sure which one did the trick but now it's nice and speedy.Hoping it stays this quick and isn't just a factor of not a lot built up in memory yet. I'll try a factory reset if it bogs down again.
there could also be some existing apps that continue to run in the background.
you might either go into app manager and force close them and clear their cache individually
OR
maybe reboot phone every day or two. clearing any cache build up. kind of a preventative maintinence thing.
if you ventured new ROM, may I suggest Padawawn.
every phone is a bit different, but I have had the best results ever
4.2.2 ROMs perform better IMO. Good luck
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i prefer stock as well and was also experiencing lag until i found the right setup for myphone. started out by debloating. then flashed phasekernel_jb.3 and use setcpu or whatever tuner app you prefer and set governor = fantasy/scheduler = sio/min = 384/max = 1728. all phones are different so you may need to try different settings to find what works for yours. i have not had any lag since.
Here is what worked for me. I had the same issue as you and posted it a while back. This also greatly increased my battery life. I suggest that if you are rooted go ahead and wipe the device - in fact do it twice! You will have to reinstall of you your apps but it got rid of all the lag and almost doubled my battery life.
geebee1932 said:
Here is what worked for me. I had the same issue as you and posted it a while back. This also greatly increased my battery life. I suggest that if you are rooted go ahead and wipe the device - in fact do it twice! You will have to reinstall of you your apps but it got rid of all the lag and almost doubled my battery life.
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When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
lanwarrior said:
When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
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You wipe the caches. If you wipe system, it will delete the OS and the data wipe will wipe your data of course.
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briand.mooreg said:
You wipe the caches. If you wipe system, it will delete the OS and the data wipe will wipe your data of course.
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OK.
I am ready to do the factory reset twice. My Note is rooted and have SuperSU. If I factory reset, wouldn't it remove SuperSU also but NOT TWRP?
If yes, can I just install the SuperSU zip from TWRP? No need to re-root?
lanwarrior said:
OK.
I am ready to do the factory reset twice. My Note is rooted and have SuperSU. If I factory reset, wouldn't it remove SuperSU also but NOT TWRP?
If yes, can I just install the SuperSU zip from TWRP? No need to re-root?
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You will have full root. I always wipe both caches, system and data when flashing a new ROM, its actually the preferred way.
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briand.mooreg said:
You will have full root. I always wipe both caches, system and data when flashing a new ROM, its actually the preferred way.
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Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..
lanwarrior said:
Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..
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It can be done by pressing at the same time Volume up and Power buttons until the display lights up, which is when you have to release Power button, while at the same time you should keep pressing the Volume Up button.
If you wish to keep your current ROM DON'T wipe system.
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lanwarrior said:
When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
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Just the normal wipe -the first one on the selection menu.
lanwarrior said:
Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..[/QUOTE
many people just disable the lock screen to fix lag
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[Q] bootloop help/ odin

so my phone ran out of battery overnight and i charged it not using the stock charger cuz i was at a friends house, it booted all the way to the lockscreen, then shut off and booted again. i let it charge some more and it just went it to a bootloop, every so often reaching the lockscreen and turning off again. i have safestrap installed and i am on the latest 4.2 build. im thinking that i need to odin reset, but i want to see if theres a differerent way so i dont lose any data. if i do have to odin, how does one go about doing that?
thanks
ClassySandwiches said:
so my phone ran out of battery overnight and i charged it not using the stock charger cuz i was at a friends house, it booted all the way to the lockscreen, then shut off and booted again. i let it charge some more and it just went it to a bootloop, every so often reaching the lockscreen and turning off again. i have safestrap installed and i am on the latest 4.2 build. im thinking that i need to odin reset, but i want to see if theres a differerent way so i dont lose any data. if i do have to odin, how does one go about doing that?
thanks
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Can you boot into safestrap? Do you still have your stock slot? Or did you put a rom over it?
gnubian said:
Can you boot into safestrap? Do you still have your stock slot? Or did you put a rom over it?
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no roms at all, i tried but none would boot. and yes safestrap does indeed work. stock slot is the one that is having troubles and no other slots have roms on them
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no roms at all, i tried but none would boot. and yes safestrap does indeed work. stock slot is the one that is having troubles and no other slots have roms on them
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Have you tried clearing cache and or data, to just start fresh on the stock?
ClassySandwiches said:
no roms at all, i tried but none would boot. and yes safestrap does indeed work. stock slot is the one that is having troubles and no other slots have roms on them
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Did u try to install roms into your stock slot?
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
decaturbob said:
Did u try to install roms into your stock slot?
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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His wording is a bit unclear, but it sounds to me like he tried to install roms on the other slots and couldnt get them to boot, with the stock slot intact. OP, correct me if im wrong.
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His wording is a bit unclear, but it sounds to me like he tried to install roms on the other slots and couldnt get them to boot, with the stock slot intact. OP, correct me if im wrong.
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yeah nothing with the stock slot, didnt mess with that. if i clear just the cache in stock what data will i lose if anything?
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His wording is a bit unclear, but it sounds to me like he tried to install roms on the other slots and couldnt get them to boot, with the stock slot intact. OP, correct me if im wrong.
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PS, my phone has just started doing this, its wierd i thought because i havent tried anything with any of the rom slots for at least a couple of months now
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yeah nothing with the stock slot, didnt mess with that. if i clear just the cache in stock what data will i lose if anything?
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If you clear cache and dalvik cache you won't lose any data or settings. If that doesn't work then do the factory reset in TWRP (safestrap) . That will make it as if you had a new phone. ( except the Safestrap and root access I believe). You will have to re download apps and change settings back to your liking, but it's better than having to odin back to stock.
gnubian said:
If you clear cache and dalvik cache you won't lose any data or settings. If that doesn't work then do the factory reset in TWRP (safestrap) . That will make it as if you had a new phone. ( except the Safestrap and root access I believe). You will have to re download apps and change settings back to your liking, but it's better than having to odin back to stock.
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safestrap failed wiping the regular cache, but dalvik worked. got to the lockcsreen again and it even gave me a vibrate for my pattern but then it shut off again. right after the verizon boot animation theres a popup window that says "Android is upgrading" with "optimizing app XXX of XXX". ive seen this before, but only very occasionally. what exactly does this mean?
By the way thank you guys for helping, especially on new years
ClassySandwiches said:
safestrap failed wiping the regular cache, but dalvik worked. got to the lockcsreen again and it even gave me a vibrate for my pattern but then it shut off again. right after the verizon boot animation theres a popup window that says "Android is upgrading" with "optimizing app XXX of XXX". ive seen this before, but only very occasionally. what exactly does this mean?
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I believe that is the normal process for dalvik to rebuild itself
"Android is upgrading" can come from wiping Dalvik cache, which is temporary info about your apps, that would need to be re mapped to the Android os. It can also come from doing a dirty flash or ota.
Your beginning post was about your data though, If you can get into safe strap then you should be able to mount your device to your pc, copy over what data you need, then wipe or Odin flash to bring it all back.
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jwoods82 said:
"Android is upgrading" can come from wiping Dalvik cache, which is temporary info about your apps, that would need to be re mapped to the Android os. It can also come from doing a dirty flash or ota.
Your beginning post was about your data though, If you can get into safe strap then you should be able to mount your device to your pc, copy over what data you need, then wipe or Odin flash to bring it all back.
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Smart, didnt know TWRP can do that. couldnt i just use the factory wipe feature in safestrap?
You could use factory wipe but your data at that point would be gone. If your not worried about the data then sure.
If data truly is not a concern though Just download the Odin tar for what build you want and start new.
To answer your other question think of Odin as a recovery disc you would use on your computer. Destructive restore. There are some good posts about here in xda or search Google for Samsung s4 Odin and I know your find some good reads.
Good luck
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jwoods82 said:
You could use factory wipe but your data at that point would be gone. If your not worried about the data then sure.
If data truly is not a concern though Just download the Odin tar for what build you want and start new.
To answer your other question think of Odin as a recovery disc you would use on your computer. Destructive restore. There are some good posts about here in xda or search Google for Samsung s4 Odin and I know your find some good reads.
Good luck
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would it just be easier to do the safestrap wipe instead of an Odin one? ive read up on Odin and it seems a lot more complicated than just using safestrap
ive decided that data isnt important because most everything is saved in google play and plus. so what is the most reliable way to get my phone working again? Safestrap reset?
ClassySandwiches said:
ive decided that data isnt important because most everything is saved in google play and plus. so what is the most reliable way to get my phone working again? Safestrap reset?
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Safestrap would be easier. I would give that a try, because if it doesn't work your only other option would be Odin.
jwoods82 said:
You could use factory wipe but your data at that point would be gone. If your not worried about the data then sure.
If data truly is not a concern though Just download the Odin tar for what build you want and start new.
To answer your other question think of Odin as a recovery disc you would use on your computer. Destructive restore. There are some good posts about here in xda or search Google for Samsung s4 Odin and I know your find some good reads.
Good luck
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did the safestrap reset, it worked
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did the safestrap reset, it worked
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Glad you got it sorted out! Now make a backup after you get it set back up to make it easier if it happens again

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