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I need a bit of advice on what to buy. I'm currently on AT&T contract with my old iPhone 5, but want to buy the One. I have a few options:
1. Craigslist seller #1 ($500)- It's a 32GB Global Unlocked version. However, they said that it will work with AT&T but it will only be HSPA + not LTE. Is this true?? He ahd it on AT&T but couldnt get LTE. I checked the HTC website and the 32GB Global Unlocked version did have one compatible band (700MHz) with AT&T's LTE, so I can't see why it wouldnt work. What do you guys think?
2. Craigslist seller #2 ($500)- She has a 32GB T-Mobile version that she got as a gift at a HTC event. It has never been activated. We tried calling TMO last night to get it unlocked, but they were clueless. I did find that I could get it unlocked for around $25 from a site online. If we do this, will it work on AT&T LTE? Any way to remove the TMO bloatware and crap from it?
3. Buy the phone direct from AT&T outright ($600). It's guaranteed to work with their LTE, but would come with the bloatware. It's more than the craigslist sellers, but at least I'd have the support of AT&T if anything ever went wrong with it (since I bought it from them). However, it's only like $30 less than the 64GB Developer edition
4. Buy direct from HTC (32GB global unlocked or Dev edition). This way guarantees me that I get the fastest updates (is that true for both or only the Dev edition) and no carrier bloatware, but I'd have to wait 2-4 weeks for the phone to arrive, and I'm impatient as hell. I know it's the smartest and best option, but I dont really feel like waiting.
If I can get #1 working on AT&T LTE, I think it's my best option, but I'm not sure if that will work. According to this XDA post, the Global Unlocked version should work with AT&T LTE, but the seller is telling me that it doesnt.
So what do you guys think? What's my best move & option here?
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Sorry. Where should I have posted this?
Buy it from AT&T. As you said, the support is worth the extra $$.
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Buy it from AT&T. As you said, the support is worth the extra $$.
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Grr, yeah that's what I was thinking. I guess it's the smarter option. Would probably be better to get the Dev edition for $50 more and a few weeks of waiting. I want to make sure I get software updates as fast as possible. I'm still stumped.
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Buy it from AT&T. As you said, the support is worth the extra $$.
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Any thoughts on option #1? Seems strange that it would have one of the correct AT&T LTE bands, but not work on AT&T. Maybe a different APN setting? I dunno. That seems like the best option, provided I can get it to work on AT&T.
You're on a development forum.. remember that.
It all comes down to this: are you happy with HSPA+ Speeds? If so, save $100 and get the unlocked version. If you want LTE, get the phone direct from AT&T. You will not get LTE speeds from any One except the AT&T model, this is proven by numerous accounts of people doing reviews on YouTube using the unlocked on AT&T.
Now, if you decide to get the AT&T, first thing to understand is you're on a developement forum.. how many people here (all of which are on AT&T still have their bloatware installed? Almost no one. I have One, and the first thing I did was unlock bootloader, root, flash a stock ROM (TrickDroid) which comes with many benificial features, including NO bloat, and fixes for bugs in HTC stock firmware.
Trust me, you're going to want to unlock, root and flash a custom ROM.
As for updates, the people that will get the updates first, before anyone else, is us. Because we are on a developement forum. People will start cooking up updates before HTC even released anything. And once AT&T or HTC starts rolling out the updates, we, XDAers will definitely know about it. And the ROMS will start getting updates.
So go for the LTE version, and know, you'll be bloat free, speeedy and the first to hear about any updates.
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You're on a development forum.. remember that.
It all comes down to this: are you happy with HSPA+ Speeds? If so, save $100 and get the unlocked version. If you want LTE, get the phone direct from AT&T. You will not get LTE speeds from any One except the AT&T model, this is proven by numerous accounts of people doing reviews on YouTube using the unlocked on AT&T.
Now, if you decide to get the AT&T, first thing to understand is you're on a developement forum.. how many people here (all of which are on AT&T still have their bloatware installed? Almost no one. I have One, and the first thing I did was unlock bootloader, root, flash a stock ROM (TrickDroid) which comes with many benificial features, including NO bloat, and fixes for bugs in HTC stock firmware.
Trust me, you're going to want to unlock, root and flash a custom ROM.
As for updates, the people that will get the updates first, before anyone else, is us. Because we are on a developement forum. People will start cooking up updates before HTC even released anything. And once AT&T or HTC starts rolling out the updates, we, XDAers will definitely know about it. And the ROMS will start getting updates.
So go for the LTE version, and know, you'll be bloat free, speeedy and the first to hear about any updates.
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Haha yeah, I purposefully came to a dev forum. You guys know more about this **** than anyone. Since I'm brand new to Android, I dont really know much about rooting, Roms etc. I hope it's easy. I'm reasonably technical, but not a dev or engineer. Can you point me to the beginner's guide to rooting and flashing roms?
Also, I heard conflicting reports about the Dev Unlocked phone direct from HTC working on AT&T LTE, so I dont know what to believe anymore. I guess the AT&T version is the best bet.
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Haha yeah, I purposefully came to a dev forum. You guys know more about this **** than anyone. Since I'm brand new to Android, I dont really know much about rooting, Roms etc. I hope it's easy. I'm reasonably technical, but not a dev or engineer. Can you point me to the beginner's guide to rooting and flashing roms?
Also, I heard conflicting reports about the Dev Unlocked phone direct from HTC working on AT&T LTE, so I dont know what to believe anymore. I guess the AT&T version is the best bet.
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Alright here's how it works. Once you get to the AT&T HTC One section, that's the start. From there you see catigories. General is mostly for stories and such, that's why this thread should be in Q and A. Then there's stuff like themes and apps section, and accessories (self explanitory) then the good stuff. Origional Development is developement that has been done SPECIFICALLY for the AT&T variant of the One. The Developement section can be ports of other phones or other variants. So, in the Developement section, we find this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245776
[XMOD] MoDaCo Toolkit (with HTC One specific mods)
That is a guide to unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing.
Do you have a PC? If so things are a little simpler if you ask me.
Hope that helps, and I'm glad someone made a noob friendly guide because I had to do it all manually before they made it. Haha
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Alright here's how it works. Once you get to the AT&T HTC One section, that's the start. From there you see catigories. General is mostly for stories and such, that's why this thread should be in Q and A. Then there's stuff like themes and apps section, and accessories (self explanitory) then the good stuff. Origional Development is developement that has been done SPECIFICALLY for the AT&T variant of the One. The Developement section can be ports of other phones or other variants. So, in the Developement section, we find this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245776
[XMOD] MoDaCo Toolkit (with HTC One specific mods)
That is a guide to unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing.
Do you have a PC? If so things are a little simpler if you ask me.
Hope that helps, and I'm glad someone made a noob friendly guide because I had to do it all manually before they made it. Haha
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Awesome thanks! I have a Mac, but have Win8 installed via Parallels, so I think I should be good. Thank you so much for your help!
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Awesome thanks! I have a Mac, but have Win8 installed via Parallels, so I think I should be good. Thank you so much for your help!
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Actually, bad idea a bit. You're going to want hardware specific drivers installed and if I remember, parallel and drivers can be weird. I would try to figure out the OS X way about things. It can be hard for even a windows computer to get the drivers installed correctly so good luck with a virtual OS.
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Actually, bad idea a bit. You're going to want hardware specific drivers installed and if I remember, parallel and drivers can be weird. I would try to figure out the OS X way about things. It can be hard for even a windows computer to get the drivers installed correctly so good luck with a virtual OS.
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Well crap. Thanks for poopin on my idea. I'll find an old ThinkPad at the office and borrow it for a bit. But even then, how hard is it for a windows comp to get the drivers installed??
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Well crap. Thanks for poopin on my idea. I'll find an old ThinkPad at the office and borrow it for a bit. But even then, how hard is it for a windows comp to get the drivers installed??
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Not hard, just don't download the HTC Sync from the HTC website, instead install this:
http://androiddrivers.net/android-drivers/htc-one-drivers/
Then the root tool thing should do the rest, I don't really know because I didn't use it.
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Not hard, just don't download the HTC Sync from the HTC website, instead install this:
http://androiddrivers.net/android-drivers/htc-one-drivers/
Then the root tool thing should do the rest, I don't really know because I didn't use it.
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Awesome, many thanks!!
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Awesome, many thanks!!
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No problem man, I remember getting into it, hard when people get annoyed when you're new. Haha I remember it well. People in the root tool thread were joking about having to pull their old laptops out of the closet too. Haha
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Awesome thanks! I have a Mac, but have Win8 installed via Parallels, so I think I should be good. Thank you so much for your help!
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I wrote a complete tutorial for unlocking the bootloader and rooting on a mac.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245782
Just to consign, if you want it to work on att lte it has to be an att branded One. Also, avoid 2nd hand att devices unless you know the individual personally. If you purchase a device then they call it in lost/ stolen, it will be added to our blocklist and it cannot be used on our network.
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Just to consign, if you want it to work on att lte it has to be an att branded One. Also, avoid 2nd hand att devices unless you know the individual personally. If you purchase a device then they call it in lost/ stolen, it will be added to our blocklist and it cannot be used on our network.
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Nope
The Unlocked regular and Dev editions sold directly by HTC work on AT&T LTE.
I agree about buying second hand though, it can be risky
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I wrote a complete tutorial for unlocking the bootloader and rooting on a mac.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245782
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Good stuff gunny, didn't realise it was essentially the same steps for Mac.
But for a begginer, understanding some of that can be confusing. It's a good learning experience though. Who knows, I'd say barrow the windows. Lol
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Good stuff gunny, didn't realise it was essentially the same steps for Mac.
But for a begginer, understanding some of that can be confusing. It's a good learning experience though. Who knows, I'd say barrow the windows. Lol
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steps are the same. just no pesky windows drivers to mess with. fastboot and adb just work
Hey guys, just have a question regarding development here. Will we be able to flash roms / kernels from the international One? Or will development be tired to this forum?
Wonder if this device may get more development than the s4 which has a locked bootloader and seems hard to unlock.
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It seems that you can flash roms from the international forum but when I tried to flash a kernel from international on the tmobile Rom I ran into issues with call audio. It's not really surprising I guess, flashing random things and all haha
1. How can you make such comments/questions about a phone that's been out less than 2 weeks?
2. The s4 isn't even out for tmo yet.
3. lol
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blackangst said:
1. How can you make such comments/questions about a phone that's been out less than 2 weeks?
2. The s4 isn't even out for tmo yet.
3. lol
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I don't understand why you had to comment when it did not contribute at all to the question. Since both of these devices (international and T-Mo) ARE out, I just wanted to know if ROMs / kernels are cross-flashable.
As far as the Galaxy S 4 bootloader, not all are confirmed locked yet, but at least two carriers are almost confirmed by developers.
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I don't understand why you had to comment when it did not contribute at all to the question. Since both of these devices (international and T-Mo) ARE out, I just wanted to know if ROMs / kernels are cross-flashable.
As far as the Galaxy S 4 bootloader, not all are confirmed locked yet, but at least two carriers are almost confirmed by developers.
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Perhaps I misread your post.
The international versions of ROMs appear to flashable on the TMo One. You wont have TMo features though...like wifi calling.
I'm beginning to lose hope that the bootloader is going to be unlocked. Not because the devs here aren't fantastic - they are undoubtedly incredible. But based on my prior experiences with locked phones, this one seems to be unusually challenging. So what do folks think the odds are at this point?
PS: Forgive me if this belongs in another thread but I figured it's less about the process or the bounty and more about likelihood....
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I'm not holding my breath. But it's reasonable that something may be found along the way by accident or by leak..
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the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
I would prefer a One Max IF you can unlock the bootloader on HTC's site.
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
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I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
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How long you going to give it? I'm sure as soon as I trade back they will crack it!
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I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I came from the note 2, development for the note 2 is not as active as the s4 but there is development.
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I currently plan on getting the note 3. Not stopping using the gs4, just having the ability to go big when I feel like it. :good:
That and to try to start some projects for it. Always fun to have projects!
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andybones said:
the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
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Wasn't the HTC DNA blocked from being unlocked after a vzw update? If the one is unlockable then I'd gladly switch.
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The odds are the same as finding a way to install a rom on the me7 update
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
CC268 said:
pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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samsung develeoper phones, htc unlock.
theres future rooting..
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
I think it is going to be the only solution going forward. I don't see any of the manufacturers or providers easing back on locking down these devices. If anything they will get tighter.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
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I am not totally sure, but I felt the CM team was indicating something in the way Google was implementing security and the code that really allows things to be done without the intrusion of root. I am not a developer and likely never would acquire the skills to be more than a guinea pig for them (don't mind) and I learned a lot from folks here especially with my HTC One DE which was a rockin device. I just wished AT&T service was better in my area and I could live with it. Some day I will likely try them again but I just can't do it right now. The big reason I did was to get unlocked phones, but given the sheer lack of LTE for US on the international phones its clear the OEM's are NOT making global phones on LTE today. It could be 10 years before we truly see global LTE phones.
Personalty, It's not about CM to me, I wasn't full access to my phone, if I have HTC I was S-OFF, if this phone I was the boot loader unlock.
Things take time and money, check the bounty, who knows for all I know they have a boot loader unlock and are waiting for it to hit $10G or some other number.
It's hard to say really. But I hope that Verizon still allows their HTC phone to at least get HTC -Dev unlock to allow custom recovery and ROM-Ming, and as for Samsung, if a Dev. edition is the only option, I will buy the phone for at Verizon (whatever one I can sell for the most on Swappa), sell it, make about enough money to buy the Dev. edition at only $200 after selling the device.
Just some ranting, sorry.
What's up guys I'm a noob to this whole android community but already I prefer it over the iPhone community. I have a Verizon s4 with the latest update. It has a bad esn, do I have to wait for an unlock to connect it to cricket wireless or is that possible now. Wasn't sure if that update affected the unlock process. Forgive my noob ish questions. But thanks
S4 unlock Bad ESN 2 CricKet?
thanyo said:
What's up guys I'm a noob to this whole android community but already I prefer it over the iPhone community. I have a Verizon s4 with the latest update. It has a bad esn, do I have to wait for an unlock to connect it to cricket wireless or is that possible now. Wasn't sure if that update affected the unlock process. Forgive my noob ish questions. But thanks
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Lol, thanks for nothing.
So the phone is stolen or something? I know you can use it on gsm network?
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Umm, I'm pretty sure why no one answered is because it's not possible. Just a thought. Typically if someone has a way to do it, it will be in the development section. I think you can only use the device with an operator that has sim cards. (except for sprint, I haven't seen any confirmation there.) since, Iirc, cricket is all cdma based there is no way to get the S4 on their network. Someone can correct me if my understanding that is off.
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Umm, I'm pretty sure why no one answered is because it's not possible. Just a thought. Typically if someone has a way to do it, it will be in the development section. I think you can only use the device with an operator that has sim cards. (except for sprint, I haven't seen any confirmation there.) since, Iirc, cricket is all cdma based there is no way to get the S4 on their network. Someone can correct me if my understanding that is off.
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Yup. The S4 is GSM unlocked, but carrier locked to VZW on CDMA. Of course, there's a chance a custom rom could overcome that, but since I'm on MDK I can't run any custom roms.
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Yup. The S4 is GSM unlocked, but carrier locked to VZW on CDMA. Of course, there's a chance a custom rom could overcome that, but since I'm on MDK I can't run any custom roms.
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You mean ME7. MDK can use custom roms without issue.
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You mean ME7. MDK can use custom roms without issue.
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Ok cool. I came across a really good deal, so i was wondering if it was worth it. Thanks guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270191
Try this thread, I'm not sure about cricket but pageplus uses Verizon's network and the s4 can be flashed to work. PM viper who posts in that thread and he can help you. Guy is completely legit.
First day with my edge plus and I'm wondering if there is a root method and any roms worth flashing. Thanks.
Nope. Won't be for a very long time
Doubt there will be one but I am a rootaholic and since I got this phone I haven't felt the need to want to root. Does everything I need well.
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Why is that? why are you guys saying there wont be root nor roms for a long time? not a popular phone? or is it too new in the market? did I choose the wrong phone if I wanted mods?
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Why is that? why are you guys saying there wont be root nor roms for a long time? not a popular phone? or is it too new in the market? did I choose the wrong phone if I wanted mods?
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You're completely off. You chose the wrong carrier to buy phones from in general
LaosPerson said:
You're completely off. You chose the wrong carrier to buy phones from in general
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I've been with Verizon for ten years, 5 different phones and never had any issues getting plenty of roms and kernels for any of my phones, ever.
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I've been with Verizon for ten years, 5 different phones and never had any issues getting plenty of roms and kernels for any of my phones, ever.
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No issues I bet. But probably a difficult process to get there. T-Mobile seems the best for modification, but anyhow, the s6 edge plus just has a hard lockdown because of Verizon making modification difficult, I looked at the T-Mobile variant forumns and they have a custom kernel and a few stock based modified roms
Hopefully is just a matter of time then. Thanks for the info. In the meantime I downloaded Package Disabler Pro and disabled a bunch of bloatware.
Well if you don't care about texting and talking, the tmobile variants do work with Verizon 4g. I've tested and it connects just fine.
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Nothing yet, but it looks like they're getting closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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Nothing yet, but it looks like they're getting closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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how does a rooted g920f aosp rom have to do with a s6e+ on verizon?
those devices have unlocked BLs so they have way more options
I didn't know that. Sorry.
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I didn't know that. Sorry.
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no biggie..
to my knowledge i thought even if it did get rooted that it would no longer boot up on vzw/att? pretty sure youd need an unlocked BL regardless which most likely will not happen.. hasnt happened on vzwsammy since early s4 days lol
I don't think these phones have a good chance of getting root unless a universal method like towel root is discovered. Development is pretty much stagnant in the Verizon variants of these phones.
I blame all the a holes abusing unlimited data! With unlocked bootloader you can root, unlock WiFi Hotspot And feed the neighborhood
You don't need root for that... All you need is foxfi... Available on the Google play store
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I guess I don't understand what unlimited means.
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I blame all the a holes abusing unlimited data! With unlocked bootloader you can root, unlock WiFi Hotspot And feed the neighborhood
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Dumb statement. It goes deeper than that. With advertisement being one of the big reasons why it's locked down.
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Dumb statement. It goes deeper than that. With advertisement being one of the big reasons why it's locked down.
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That is true, but it's not a dumb statement , because that is part of it too.
So, you order all you can eat fish and get charged more and draw haters because you ate all you could eat. Wouldn't you be pissed if you bought a car with free oil change for life and 2 years later they wanted to start charging you because they never foreseen you actually using it and taking them for their word.
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