What's with the stock DPI? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

I was real surprised the first day I used my Note II when less stuff fit on the screen that my Galaxy Nexus. I guess I assumed it would be the same, as they're both 720p. I'm used to it on stock at least now, but was just thinking...what's the point in this, Samsung? Feels like the stock DPI is designed for my grandpa sometimes "These old eyes need big letters, son"

johnchad14 said:
I was real surprised the first day I used my Note II when less stuff fit on the screen that my Galaxy Nexus. I guess I assumed it would be the same, as they're both 720p. I'm used to it on stock at least now, but was just thinking...what's the point in this, Samsung? Feels like the stock DPI is designed for my grandpa sometimes "These old eyes need big letters, son"
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I believe the DPI is 320.

Not sure why you would be surprised...plenty of reviews out there showing the larger...well...everything.

First of all brother,
let me say that DPI is dots per inch and it is a measure of video.dot density..
When the DPI increases the object go bigger in Android...
You said that it is like maded for Grand papas reading glass and i liked that.. but manufacturers always go for the average of optimal values , thats how they can prouduce a littile less buggy products... If they had decresed the DPI to fit more things on the screen some peoples may be complining that they cant see writing because it went too small.. There might be some peoples who might be having littile less eyepower and they may start complaining...
Brother, i heard that stock DPI of GS2 is around 320 and to fit too.many items just decrease DPI using apps like "Pimp My Rom" which is available on play store when if you are in custom ROM
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I didnt like it either. So I got nova launcher and increased the grid size so more icons would fit on the screen.
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I use Holo launcher and have the grid set to 7x9, with no margins, and the DPI set to 240 (just change the ro.density lines in system >build.prop from 320 to 240 using a text editor and reboot). You do have to be rooted to do this though. There are some apps that go out of alignment, but there are 240 DPI compatible ones: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35583745
I also use the on screen nav bar which looks good at this DPI too.
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sleevasteve said:
I use Holo launcher and have the grid set to 7x9, with no margins, and the DPI set to 240 (just change the ro.density lines in system >build.prop from 320 to 240 using a text editor and reboot). You do have to be unlocked rooted to do this though. There are some apps that go out of alignment, but there are 240 DPI compatible ones: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35583745
I also use the on screen nav bar which looks good at this DPI too.
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FTFY.

Well yeah I knew things were visibly bigger, but thought it was just same dpi stretched another inch. Wasnt till I started noticing context sensitive stuff like less menu options displayed, or the winner of not being able to see text messages as I type them in landscape in google voice. And to be clear I'm not exactly complaining, I just don't see the logic in the design choice.
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Screen Density / DPI questions and opinions

So I've tried 184 dpi which seems like allot of people like and seems to work without issues on Resurrection Remix ROM but to me stuff is just too small. I get the idea of having more "screen real estate" so more items fit on the screen since like the app icons get smaller but then when I watched a video on youtube it looked like crap IMO and so did a movie on my phone - this is in comparison to 240 dpi. That's where the deal breaker was for me, like when I want to show off my phone and how nice the screen is I show someone a video or a pic so why would anyone want it smaller and not as clear I just can't understand. This I also find has to get when newer phone are coming out with higher dpi - the Galaxy Nexus for example is 320 wo why would we want lower instead of higher?
Maybe I'm blind or something but I'd like to hear people's opinion on this and also as to what DPIs they've tried or use and also if anyone has gone higher than the stock 240 and if so what's the result they get.
Look forward to hearing people's response. Thanks.
thanks and look forward to hearing people's answers/opinions.
Kman Gymrat said:
So I've tried 184 dpi which seems like allot of people like and seems to work without issues on Resurrection Remix ROM but to me stuff is just too small. I get the idea of having more "screen real estate" so more items fit on the screen since like the app icons get smaller but then when I watched a video on youtube it looked like crap IMO and so did a movie on my phone - this is in comparison to 240 dpi. That's where the deal breaker was for me, like when I want to show off my phone and how nice the screen is I show someone a video or a pic so why would anyone want it smaller and not as clear I just can't understand. This I also find has to get when newer phone are coming out with higher dpi - the Galaxy Nexus for example is 320 wo why would we want lower instead of higher?
Maybe I'm blind or something but I'd like to hear people's opinion on this and also as to what DPIs they've tried or use and also if anyone has gone higher than the stock 240 and if so what's the result they get.
Look forward to hearing people's response. Thanks.
thanks and look forward to hearing people's answers/opinions.
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it depends on people on what they like, personally i like 210.lower dpi gives u more space to fit icons,text. also changing dpi other than 240 will give incompatibility error in play store.
It all depends on your readability of your eyes, I'm using 160 dpi and it feels perfect for me
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160 dpi worked well for me and looked awesome i thought however the dialler on foxhound rom doesnt take too well to the change so ive gone back to 240
to me though 240 doesnt look as smart i like fitting more on the screen
what are th fixes for market compatibility? I heard there was this one fix in which you had to create data.prop or some file like that. Anyone knows about that?
I'm on 182 and suits me perfectly
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I've tried a little higher and though yes you lose screen realestate but boy does it make videos look good. All higher dpi I tried the market would open and load fine - i cleared market data after each change then rebooted, didn't try installing any apps tho so can't say if I'd have any issues. Too high and i got app labels in the drawer overlapping the pages in the app drawer which would be fine if i changed to vertical scrolling instead. All numbers i tried were multiples of 8 as i read somewhere that it must be so.
Just fyi for anyone who wants to try. Videos and pics looked sweet!
For anyone confused... the lower you set the dpi - the higher it actually displays (that's why things are getting smaller and not bigger like on a pc). I too like my settings around 210. To each his/her own.

DPI on i9300

Unfortunately the search option seems to be missing and Google isnt being too helpful.
I'm curious if first its possible to change the DPI on the i9300 and if so if there are any recommended settings.
Main reason I want to do this is I find everything is too small. I know this is due to the HD screen but playing angry birds and other stuff is hard on the eyes.
I figure changing the DPI will make it bigger and easier on the eyes
This is the first thread I read where someone wants to increase the dpi. Usually people want to lower it. Lol
If you are rooted try the app LCD density from the market. It allows you to play with the dpi and if you don't have it checked to stay after a reboot it will go back to stock dpi after a reboot. This is good for if you are trying different dpis.
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graffixnyc said:
This is the first thread I read where someone wants to increase the dpi. Usually people want to lower it. Lol
If you are rooted try the app LCD density from the market. It allows you to play with the dpi and if you don't have it checked to stay after a reboot it will go back to stock dpi after a reboot. This is good for if you are trying different dpis.
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Thanks the app works but multiple apps start crashing when I up any amount. I started at 400 (fro default 320) and went down to 330 and same thing
You could try the Paranoidandroid Rom in the development section. It's fabulous in it's versatility, specially on this device because of it's size. It allows you to independently set the dpi and ui framework for the entire device including a per app list. So for example you could have all system apps set to display in tablet mode and all user downloaded apps set to their default phone ui & dpi or any combination in between.
You can also set framework and system DPI (statusbar, toast messages, etc.) the DPI on the stock rom is way to big in my opinion and I have old eyes. Most of the native Google Apps have a tablet display and the render dual pane and great on the S3.
Give it a try, I've messed around with the 3rd party apps and it's a pain compared to using Paranoid. Zero dpi related issues and makes the phone more functional in my opinion with the option of utilizing more screen real estate with tablet UI and DPI tweaking to your liking.
Build prop in System
this file
ro.sf.lcd_density=320
Change the last figure .
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kchino said:
You could try the Paranoidandroid Rom in the development section. It's fabulous in it's versatility, specially on this device because of it's size. It allows you to independently set the dpi and ui framework for the entire device including a per app list. So for example you could have all system apps set to display in tablet mode and all user downloaded apps set to their default phone ui & dpi or any combination in between.
You can also set framework and system DPI (statusbar, toast messages, etc.) the DPI on the stock rom is way to big in my opinion and I have old eyes. Most of the native Google Apps have a tablet display and the render dual pane and great on the S3.
Give it a try, I've messed around with the 3rd party apps and it's a pain compared to using Paranoid. Zero dpi related issues and makes the phone more functional in my opinion with the option of utilizing more screen real estate with tablet UI and DPI tweaking to your liking.
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Thanks ill give it a try

Any way to change dpi without rooting?

My guess is no, but here's hoping. I am coming from an original Note, which I have had rooted for a while and run a ton of different roms on. I honestly really didn't want to root this note 3, but I am finding the dpi to be a bit unbearable. I liked to run 240dpi on my note, with nova launcher this allowed me to go 7 icons wide and 8 or 9 tall without much of a problem. I have no need for that many icons on my home screen, but it allowed for more widgets, or maybe just a few icons and still being able to see the majority of my background picture.
I already put nova launcher on my note 3, so I am able to get the same icon grid size, but it just looks so tight and the icons are huge.
This is also a problem for texting. On the note(using stock android messaging app)I could easily see the last 3-5 messages even with the keyboard open. One the note 3, I can see one or maybe 2 of the last messages with the keyboard open, and as I start to type a new message I'm lucky if I can even see all of the last message sent.
I just don't get why they give you such a big screen then clutter it with huge icons and texts/keyboards and things. Sure its great for movie and web browsing, but that huge screen really doesn't do much for day to day use I don't think because they scaled up everything else at the same time.
One of my friends said on his Note 2 there was a way to change the resolution(he said resolution, not sure if he meant that or dpi) and also a way to change the amount of icons touch wiz allows. I did think there was a way to change the number of icons in touchwiz. Its default is 4, I was pretty sure 5 was possible and even though they had recently bumped it up to 6, but I could not find that option anywhere.
Any help?
I used Nova Launcher to resize the icons on an unrooted Note 2. I don't know if that's still the case on the Note 3 since I don't have one yet.
I can resize widgets with nova, but I don't think you can resize icons.I mean I was able to change the grid size, but they looks so big and clustered together than on my note at 240dpi
What's the point of such a beautiful screen!
mike208 said:
My guess is no, but here's hoping. I am coming from an original Note, which I have had rooted for a while and run a ton of different roms on. I honestly really didn't want to root this note 3, but I am finding the dpi to be a bit unbearable. I liked to run 240dpi on my note, with nova launcher this allowed me to go 7 icons wide and 8 or 9 tall without much of a problem. I have no need for that many icons on my home screen, but it allowed for more widgets, or maybe just a few icons and still being able to see the majority of my background picture.
I already put nova launcher on my note 3, so I am able to get the same icon grid size, but it just looks so tight and the icons are huge.
This is also a problem for texting. On the note(using stock android messaging app)I could easily see the last 3-5 messages even with the keyboard open. One the note 3, I can see one or maybe 2 of the last messages with the keyboard open, and as I start to type a new message I'm lucky if I can even see all of the last message sent.
I just don't get why they give you such a big screen then clutter it with huge icons and texts/keyboards and things. Sure its great for movie and web browsing, but that huge screen really doesn't do much for day to day use I don't think because they scaled up everything else at the same time.
One of my friends said on his Note 2 there was a way to change the resolution(he said resolution, not sure if he meant that or dpi) and also a way to change the amount of icons touch wiz allows. I did think there was a way to change the number of icons in touchwiz. Its default is 4, I was pretty sure 5 was possible and even though they had recently bumped it up to 6, but I could not find that option anywhere.
Any help?
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I know how you feel. I'm also thinking of getting note 3 (now i'm with N7000) but with all the stuff so huge it really is ugly (i wouldn't want to root either). If you find a solution please let me know!
As far as I can tell you would need to be rooted to change the dpi. They are accessed through the system file build.prop.
If you go into nova launcher settings and long press volume down you can access hidden features to allow more grid space which allows more widgets. You could also change the icon size rake them smaller.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions.
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Picking the "correct" resolution

I'm using an i9000.
As you know the native res for it is 800X480 with 320dpi.
However I switched a while back to slimbeam which defaults to 182dpi. I since got used to that and can't go back to the way thing were so bigger before.
Themer identifies the device as 800X480 and all themes are installed accordingly. So almost all widgets a shifted left and up.
Is there a way to make Themer use a different resolution then the default for the device?
kobyz said:
I'm using an i9000.
As you know the native res for it is 800X480 with 320dpi.
However I switched a while back to slimbeam which defaults to 182dpi. I since got used to that and can't go back to the way thing were so bigger before.
Themer identifies the device as 800X480 and all themes are installed accordingly. So almost all widgets a shifted left and up.
Is there a way to make Themer use a different resolution then the default for the device?
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I haven't tried this for Themer, but you could try the Apps Settings app from Xposed framework, and set 320dpi for Themer from this app, maybe it will work.
Sorry but I don't get what your suggesting...
Are you saying I should use Themer on 320dpi while all the rest of my device uses 182dpi?
If so that's not what I'm asking. I want Themer on the higher res. It looks much better.
It's just that the widgets are off their place. Manually moving them takes a long time and the smallest mistake forces me to start over.
So I'm looking to "fool" Themer into thinking I have a higher res device.
Same situation here, maybe with xposed settings, set themer on 182dpi? Dunno, will try later when I'm at home...
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Themer is designed to work with the stock DPI of your device. So any altered value might result in Themer not working
ThemerSupport said:
Themer is designed to work with the stock DPI of your device. So any altered value might result in Themer not working
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Hey guys I don't use themer for this reason alone. I've got a note 3, and having 1"x1" icons is a waste of space and looks dumb, so I run a different DPI. Where does themer draw it's DPI from? Device name from build.prop or DPI lines from build.prop?

What dpi settings should I use?

I just got my Verizon HTC One Max rooted and am going to change the DPI. I do not know a lot about calculating the best DPI for my screen. What settings would you guys recommend to give me more screen real estate.
You going to use something like Xposed to change the dpi? I haven't looked to see if the module there that does change dpi works with the One Max. I would definitely not recommend just trying out values as you could end up with a phone you will have to fix by pushing a build.prop (on the easy side) or recover with an ruu (if you are sprint) or some other way if any other version (on the more painful side).
I used texdroider_dpi from the app store and started small. I changed from 480 to 420 and it looks great but one problem. The launcher does not fill the screen now. I think some other launcher would work well but i want to stay stock so I changed it back.
bender6681 said:
I used texdroider_dpi from the app store and started small. I changed from 480 to 420 and it looks great but one problem. The launcher does not fill the screen now. I think some other launcher would work well but i want to stay stock so I changed it back.
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i did try doing it with the app settings module via Xposed. This helped me to acheive per App DPI and few more features like font scaling and setting / resolution/ fullscreen/orientation and permission control.
Don't have the stock launcher on my phone.. i am willing to see what happens on 420. Do you have some screen shots ? Any idea which device uses DPI of 420?
pradeepvizz said:
i did try doing it with the app settings module via Xposed. This helped me to acheive per App DPI and few more features like font scaling and setting / resolution/ fullscreen/orientation and permission control.
Don't have the stock launcher on my phone.. i am willing to see what happens on 420. Do you have some screen shots ? Any idea which device uses DPI of 420?
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Not sure what uses 420. I just tried it. Here are some screens of some apps and such running it. As you can see only the launcher seems to be affected.
bender6681 said:
Not sure what uses 420. I just tried it. Here are some screens of some apps and such running it. As you can see only the launcher seems to be affected.
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ok looks cool, i will try it out!
What launcher are you using? I wanted to stay stock but the widget sizes are pissing me off. Not sure why the just threw a bunch of 4Xx widgets in here when the screen is 5 wide. I used apex launcher in the past. Any other good ones out there?
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Here is a few shots of apex running at with 380 dpi. I like it. The font is default but not hard to read.
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I change the whole screen dpi from ROM Toolbox > performance > build.prop Editor > ro.sf.lcd_density to 360 dpi. But sense is not going to stretch full screen even the all other apps are fully work. How can i also change sense dpi?
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