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Hi guys,
Yesterday I was thinking about how to enable the NFC sgs2 not have this technology, so I thought that using bluetooth or wifi direct you might also enable nfc
Android is not a developer so I need someone who can create a program that "hijack"the signals that are transmitted via the nfc nfc chip to an external device via bluetooth or wifi direct, then I did this I will create a hardware device composed of the NFC chip and a receiver / transmitter bluetooth or wifi direct to hide behind the battery, you will be able to receive the signal and then sending it to the NFC chip.
Does anyone know how to help me?, I am completely new in the Android paronama.
I think nfc is a magnetic signal, very different from BT, or wifi, so I think this idea would take a whole notha level of brilliance to actual make happen
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It should be possible in the future to use NFC with an SD-Card that has NFC integrated. I think a diy is fun, but possible more expensive due to your bt solution.
are we sure nfc is not inside first sgs2 ? how to check ? Maybe it can be activated in few times.....
NFC is very similar to wifi, and also by bluetooth it to communicate using a wireless frequency.
however, what is the story of the NFC in the sd card?
I really don't think its worth the effort involved. Reminds me of someone I know who spent thousands trying to make his bmw 318 into an m3. When he finished, it looked ****e, didn't work properly and could have bought an actual M3 with the money he spent. Sorry to put a downer on this.
There is no NFC in the Sgs2. Als new Sgs2 has been announced with tiny improvements and NFC os included.
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You would be better with SIM based NFC tbh... You can't just randomly say "let's use wifi/bluetooth instead of NFC, as they both work on radio waves of some sort"
I still want to use the wifi / bluetooth nfc only to transfer the signal to an external hardware that transmits, via the receiver wifi / bluetooth, nfc signal to a transmitter.
the idea and the hardware is easy to do, but the software ... I do not know, but I think it's tough.
at least someone can tell me of the nfc in the SD card?
Just buy an nfc enabled phone if you want it that badly. Trust me, trying to do a DIY job will bea waste of your time and money and will all end in tears. LOL.
i'm not sure if it's asking this'd be dumb but how would i understand if i got nfc şn my phone? i bought my sgs2 yesterday but it's still grey market here in Turkey so i can't be sure if i got nfc or not..
NFC sticker can make SGS2 NFC enabled..
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/google-wallet-mobile-payment-service-google-offers-announced/
Enjoy
Aldideos said:
Hi guys,
Yesterday I was thinking about how to enable the NFC sgs2 not have this technology, so I thought that using bluetooth or wifi direct you might also enable nfc
Android is not a developer so I need someone who can create a program that "hijack"the signals that are transmitted via the nfc nfc chip to an external device via bluetooth or wifi direct, then I did this I will create a hardware device composed of the NFC chip and a receiver / transmitter bluetooth or wifi direct to hide behind the battery, you will be able to receive the signal and then sending it to the NFC chip.
Does anyone know how to help me?, I am completely new in the Android paronama.
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Wow, it's amazing how many people post without reading the first post where OP clearly states he wants to create a device that reads NFC and then transmits it to the phone via bluetooth or wifi :
soraxd said:
I think nfc is a magnetic signal, very different from BT, or wifi, so I think this idea would take a whole notha level of brilliance to actual make happen
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Aldideos said:
NFC is very similar to wifi, and also by bluetooth it to communicate using a wireless frequency.
however, what is the story of the NFC in the sd card?
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pulser_g2 said:
You would be better with SIM based NFC tbh... You can't just randomly say "let's use wifi/bluetooth instead of NFC, as they both work on radio waves of some sort"
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Also, using an NFC sticker is not the same : It will enable you to use your phone as a payment or transport card, but it won't allow your phone to actually READ NFC tags and display some information, nor REWRITE NFC tags.
Anyway, I think it's a good idea but probably not worth your time and money with NFC enabled Galaxy S2 coming in a few weeks or months. Besides, even if my SGS2 doesn't have NFC, I'll probably have a new phone in 18 months or so when NFC becomes really useful.
BlueScreenJunky said:
Anyway, I think it's a good idea but probably not worth your time and money with NFC enabled Galaxy S2 coming in a few weeks or months. Besides, even if my SGS2 doesn't have NFC, I'll probably have a new phone in 18 months or so when NFC becomes really useful.
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Agreed here. Surely the most used function of NFC will be for payments until other phones catch up, and this is accomplished by a sticker anyway?
I'm all for modding and hacking, obviously, but I feel that it may just be needless in this case...
What about /dev/pn544?
Just a thought
Odia said:
What about /dev/pn544?
Just a thought
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Hehehe.
Anyone got the userspace nfc stuff, either from korean model, or the nexus s? That chip is the same as in the N S
not every model have the NFC chip on them samsung did say that some already do have it and they just need a software upgrade to enable it but i know none of the UK models have a NFC chip. Samsung also said that the one with it are slightly thicker phones than the ones with out it...
microsd nfc cards
Didn't someone mention here that Samsung had stated NFC was on the battery in enabled models.
Could it be one of the options here http://smartsim.info/products.html
Item 2 - special battery combined with carrier provided sim could mean even reader mode is possible retrospectively for a fairly nominal charge
At least for normal batteries. I now have 2 std 1650 batteries, a mugen 3200 and eyes on the new 2000 mAh options . Yikes.
Great News for the normal SGS 2 Users.
Hello i bought a Flytouch 5, I'm wondering what people know about this tablet.
And also i like to learn here if it's possible to change the Android version to one that are around here.
I'm not really happy with the pre installation that came from the manufacturer. It works but i know it can be better.
I would be really happy with any info what is out there about this tablet.
Info from tablet.
Model Number: YOSPAD
Android Version: V2.3 2011-07-17(001112)
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #216
Build Version:FR858
Update
I noticed to that when i post with the tablet the footnote on the bottom of the message says "Sent from my mercury using XDA App"
I hope this extra info will help.
Operating System Android 2.3
Model Fly Touch 5
Product Type Tablet
Keyboard Touch screen
Battery Type 6400MAH Li-ion Battery
Battery / Run Time (up to) about 4~6 hours
Power Device Type AC Adapter
Voltage required 100/240V
Miscellaneous / Color Silver
Dimensions / W x D x H 170.mm(W) x 270.0mm(D) x 16.mm(H)
Net Weight 0.68kg
Performance
Processor Type ARM 11
Processor Clock Speed 1GMHz
Processor Model Infotmic X220
Cache Memory / Type I-Cache
Cache Memory / Installed Size 2M
RAM / Technology DDR 2
RAM Installed Size 512MB
Display Diagonal Size 10.2 inch
Max Resolution 1024 X 600
Display Technology Resistive touch screen
Graphics Type Integrated Graphics
Graphics Model Support 1080P
Storage and Expansion
Hard Drive Type NAND Fast Flash
Hard Drive Capacity 4GB
Hard Drive Spindle Speed NAND Fast Flash
PCMCIA Expansion Support 16GB MAX
Communications
Net Connection
Fast Ethernet
Wireless Connection
Wifi
Wireless Protocol 802.11 b/g
Support Format
Video RM/RMVB,DAT,MPG,VOB,MP4,
AVI/MK,TS,FLV,WMV,MOV
Audio MP3,AAC,AAC+,EAAC+,
WMA,WMA PRO,RA
Picture JPG, GIF, BMP ,PNG
Ebook TXT(Support TTS reading function)
Input/Output Connectors
Ports
2 x USB
1 x Output HDMI
1 x SD slot
1 x DC jack
1 x Ethernet Jack
Digital Zorro said:
Hello i bought a Flytouch 5, I'm wondering what people know about this tablet.
And also i like to learn here if it's possible to change the Android version to one that are around here.
I'm not really happy with the pre installation that came from the manufacturer. It works but i know it can be better.
I would be really happy with any info what is out there about this tablet.
Info from tablet.
Model Number: YOSPAD
Android Version: V2.3 2011-07-17(001112)
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #216
Build Version:FR858
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Hi, I have the same one since a week ago. Unfortunatelly I updated it with another Android OS and now I don't have WIFI. May I ask you if you are still on the original firmware to send me the file wpa_supplicant.config? Or if you have the original ROM it will the best way if you can send me the link to download it. Thanks.
teddy_irish said:
Hi, I have the same one since a week ago. Unfortunatelly I updated it with another Android OS and now I don't have WIFI. May I ask you if you are still on the original firmware to send me the file wpa_supplicant.config? Or if you have the original ROM it will the best way if you can send me the link to download it. Thanks.
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Yes i still have the original firmware installed.
I really like to help you solve your problem. How i do get the "wpa_supplicant.config" File from the tablet?
Digital Zorro said:
Yes i still have the original firmware installed.
I really like to help you solve your problem. How i do get the "wpa_supplicant.config" File from the tablet?
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Thank you for your answer! Is your device rooted? Because only if it's rooted you can go to the folder where the file is. Or maybe you have the ROM? That will be the best way if you have the ROM to send it to me. Or to ask your reseller to send it to you? By the way where did you buy it from? That might help me to obtain the original firmware.
Thanks
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Thank you for your answer! Is your device rooted? Because only if it's rooted you can go to the folder where the file is. Or maybe you have the ROM? That will be the best way if you have the ROM to send it to me. Or to ask your reseller to send it to you? By the way where did you buy it from? That might help me to obtain the original firmware.
Thanks
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How is the folder named? Let me look in to that first, i don't think the site allows direct company names that sell this product.
I'm surprised about the low info here on this tablet.
Maybe new info i found will help, it's also known as superpad.
And I'm sure it's no fake. Google it. I will not advertise here.
Still need some good info and answers.
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I bought one of these chunks of crap, it ran for 24 hrs now it won't boot it had newer yospad firmware but I can't remember the exact build cause it won't boot now. What I need to know is how to do a hardware reset, not the little reset button it just restarts it or another yospad rom.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
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Found out how to hard reset this chunk of gold and its good now
Peace
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richarddwyer10 said:
I bought one of these chunks of crap, it ran for 24 hrs now it won't boot it had newer yospad firmware but I can't remember the exact build cause it won't boot now. What I need to know is how to do a hardware reset, not the little reset button it just restarts it or another yospad rom.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
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I see you already found it...This for the people who still don't know it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyWTEr2NeDo
I think Gingerbreak might of bricked this but now this is running I'm reluctant to try again. Have you rooted you're yospad yet?
I've been sent the latest firmware from the supplier as well as the flash player file if you want it
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Upgrade file for YosPad
How were you able to upgrade the firmware and flash file on your YosPad ?
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How were you able to upgrade the firmware and flash file on your YosPad ?
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Yes, i'm interested in that too.
Yes format SD card put Fw update on SD and turn power on and it will flash itself. Btw use z4root to root this because it is fake back ported 2.3 in other words its 2.2
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Who the hell gives names to this devices .. ? Flytouch 5 ? zomg!
this is the ONLY company that has the Infotmic SoC available for implementing into tablets:
http://www.shuoying.com/global/index.asp
http://www.shuoying.com/global/Product.asp?/3.html (tablet page)
I Know that, cause I personally visited the head of Infotmic SoC design (Shenzhen) and ShuoYing CEO, also in Shenzhen (Infotmic HQ is from Shanghai)
If there is any other tablet with "Flytouch" design, then they are tempered from the original tablet made by Shuoying, or they are so wild that it is really a mystery of it's origin.
My guess is that those are regular FT2 (since all have the same CPU) tweaked by some wild chinese people, Kernel and OS, and RAM/ROM
not to all - dont buy tablets from companies that dont show up in 1-2 hours search. You'll end up with tablet that someone assembled by hand and a screwdriver, and most probably extremely bad OS.
flashing rom on yospad
Use only Z4 to root the yospad. Can someone leave link for fw flash for yospad
Igoritza said:
Who the hell gives names to this devices .. ? Flytouch 5 ? zomg!
this is the ONLY company that has the Infotmic SoC available for implementing into tablets:
http://www.shuoying.com/global/index.asp
http://www.shuoying.com/global/Product.asp?/3.html (tablet page)
I Know that, cause I personally visited the head of Infotmic SoC design (Shenzhen) and ShuoYing CEO, also in Shenzhen (Infotmic HQ is from Shanghai)
If there is any other tablet with "Flytouch" design, then they are tempered from the original tablet made by Shuoying, or they are so wild that it is really a mystery of it's origin.
My guess is that those are regular FT2 (since all have the same CPU) tweaked by some wild chinese people, Kernel and OS, and RAM/ROM
not to all - dont buy tablets from companies that dont show up in 1-2 hours search. You'll end up with tablet that someone assembled by hand and a screwdriver, and most probably extremely bad OS.
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I think your completely right there.
I use it for a remote control know.
Thanks for the input btw.
Digital Zoro - im sorry for your failed tablet device.
On the other hand - I find the FT2 design to be the best tablet design ever. it obviously lacks the fine finish, and better materials, but - 10 inch wide tablet, with every god damn port there is - pure win.
I saw the "actual" FT3 in Infotmic Shenzhen, and it looks awesome - capacitive screen, ARM Cortex A8 based infotmic SoC (about time dudes, you are sooo late) .. dont know why isnt out yet, cause all those named "FT3" dont have same specs as the one I saw.
Igoritza said:
Digital Zoro - im sorry for your failed tablet device.
On the other hand - I find the FT2 design to be the best tablet design ever. it obviously lacks the fine finish, and better materials, but - 10 inch wide tablet, with every god damn port there is - pure win.
I saw the "actual" FT3 in Infotmic Shenzhen, and it looks awesome - capacitive screen, ARM Cortex A8 based infotmic SoC (about time dudes, you are sooo late) .. dont know why isnt out yet, cause all those named "FT3" dont have same specs as the one I saw.
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My Flytouch 5
The design is not really bad and i like that it has the rj-45 port.
The screen I find bad. No multitouch and slow reaction when touched.
Its thick and heavy to hold.
Flytouch 5 should have GPS build in, but it doesn't.
The Flytouch 2 3 4 5 are all the same design. On one moment it lost the second mini sd slot.
Is this only with the fake ones?
No, they are all faulty. the forementioned Shuoying company makes crapy tablets
I took for bussines 30 units the first time around, and I still have 6 broken units. others had flaws, mostly of how they are assembled - everything is sticking out, and such. USB/SD slots die more often than you could imagine.
buttons are the biggest problem - they are not glued in & soldered - they are JUST soldered. so the only thing that holds them into place is Tin (Sn) and we all know how that is firm and solid
oh, there is also a screen problem - there are 3 types of ZIF wire-to-board connector types for the screen, so if you ever need a screen replacement - dont even think about it.
the best assembled chinese tablet is from a company Utopia, in my expirience. you can find them by the name "imx515" A8 or A10 tablet. it turns out that solutions for assemble is better than most of the branded companies.
Simple question - any ideas?
I dot iPad1 3G but I need keyboard and something other than iOS and Safari.
Transformer (at least before Win8 devices) seems like a perfect device but I need 3G connectivity from time to time. I can do it with my phone but since it is ****ty ZTE Blade its battery is not very good.
If I could have an option for stick (where I need 3g for longer than few minutes) it would be great!
First of all don't knock the blade , that phone was amazing for its price and spec.
In terms of a 3G dongle i don't think the android os supports it yet.
TehH4rRy said:
First of all don't knock the blade , that phone was amazing for its price and spec.
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Oh, I know. I paid about 299 zloty for brand new one abot 6 months ago. Since I do not call much I don't need anything better for my private use.
But that creates a problem with 3G Internet.
I think there's a thread in general that was about 3g modems. Someone got it working but he couldn't download anything just load webpages (and baybe flash videos but I'm not sure)
found it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559046
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Thanks, I will have a look.
Hi,
i am looking for a compatible dvb-t with my sony xperia z tablet. I want a device which has coaxial connection because i am from spain and the TDT coverage here is too bad for a small antenna. Does anybody have a dvb for this tablet?
Thanks
I completely forgot about my Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro Stick 330e ! Will look if they made an android app to work with.
This one looks like it is compatible with several stick :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.goprasoft.dvb.tv
Check the compatible list : http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices
I'm personally waiting on the new generation of the HD Homerun.
The new HDHR4 should be coming soon (they said mid 2013 at CES), it is a network dual tuner that connects to your wireless router via ethernet ... you can then access the tuners on many different devices.
The new version is said to have a native android app, hardware transcoding and DLNA.. I can't wait, i will be buying it on day one.
slandash said:
I'm personally waiting on the new generation of the HD Homerun.
The new HDHR4 should be coming soon (they said mid 2013 at CES), it is a network dual tuner that connects to your wireless router via ethernet ... you can then access the tuners on many different devices.
The new version is said to have a native android app, hardware transcoding and DLNA.. I can't wait, i will be buying it on day one.
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Looks interesting for ~100$ but it is for use at home.
When on the go a USB Stick is a better solution.
Don't know if OP needs a solution for home or when out ?...
babylonbwoy said:
Looks interesting for ~100$ but it is for use at home.
When on the go a USB Stick is a better solution.
Don't know if OP needs a solution for home or when out ?...
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The idea of HD Homerun is very interesting but I do not know if i will pay 100$ when my usb stick for pc costed 15$. I want a usb stick to be used in my house because i do not have a television in my bedroom or in my kitchen where i have a plug to connect a dvb-t.
I have seen a conceptronic device (CTVDIGANG) but i do not see any review and in the specifications doesn't say if it is compatible with our tablet. Has anybody tried this one (or other similiar)?
The app recommend by babylonbwoy has horrible reviews. Have you successed connecting your Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro Stick 330e to your android?
emervel said:
The idea of HD Homerun is very interesting but I do not know if i will pay 100$ when my usb stick for pc costed 15$. I want a usb stick to be used in my house because i do not have a television in my bedroom or in my kitchen where i have a plug to connect a dvb-t.
I have seen a conceptronic device (CTVDIGANG) but i do not see any review and in the specifications doesn't say if it is compatible with our tablet. Has anybody tried this one (or other similiar)?
The app recommend by babylonbwoy has horrible reviews. Have you successed connecting your Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro Stick 330e to your android?
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Well the biggest problem with that app is that it only supports Android 3.1, at least that's what it says in the description.
There is a TVMan app that seems to have good reviews but I don't know if you can use it with any dvb-t stick and I don't really know much about dvb-t sticks...
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There is also this app that seems positively reviewed for the most part:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keyitech.instatv.lite
emervel said:
The app recommend by babylonbwoy has horrible reviews. Have you successed connecting your Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro Stick 330e to your android?
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Did not try for now, don't have lots of time, next week end. I have the OTG usb cable and everything needed.
True for bad review but it has at the same time 389 G+ recommendations... Don't know what to think.
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Well the biggest problem with that app is that it only supports Android 3.1, at least that's what it says in the description.
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In french translated playstore it looks like it says from 3.1 but not sure, and I don't find the change langage option in playstore new ui to check how is it in english. Last update is from july 9, again difficult to understand all that.
Not good at all for that price!
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Did not try for now, don't have lots of time, next week end. I have the OTG usb cable and everything needed.
True for bad review but it has at the same time 389 G+ recommendations... Don't know what to think.
In french translated playstore it looks like it says from 3.1 but not sure, and I don't find the change langage option in playstore new ui to check how is it in english. Last update is from july 9, again difficult to understand all that.
Not good at all for that price!
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It states only for 3.1 in English, that's what I read it in the first time, hence my comment. I find it very odd that he has yet to update the app to at least 4.0 if it works in any way. The only positive review he had was when the guy tested it at his house, when he went to work (where he wanted to use it mainly) it didn't work because he had to forward ports (I think that's what he said) and even then it still didn't fully function. It seems really really sketchy to me.
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Damn, reviews doesn't appears in french version, I thought you were talking about the sum of one stars he has!
I should have never responded to this post!
When I saw dvb-t in title it caught me because of my old stick!
Edit : my link doesn't work no more, he removed it ?
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Damn, reviews doesn't appears in french version, I thought you were talking about the sum of one stars he has!
I should have never responded to this post!
When I saw dvb-t in title it caught me because of my old stick!
Edit : my link doesn't work no more, he removed it ?
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No, he didn't delete it. He jacked the price up to $6.50 and changed the name of it so he could get rid of those negative reviews and sucker people into buying his app. It wouldn't surprise me of he has done this several times before. Here is his new link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.goprasoft.dvbt
I am considering reporting him, I don't like to make a fuss but it was obvious his app was **** and didn't work at all and noe he has changed it to get rid of the reviews so he can make more money on people who don't know any better.
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Now it has changed from the app only supporting "android 3.1" ,which there was no 3.1 only 3.0, to only supporting kernel version 3.10.
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Definitely not a trust worthy dev, you're right.
I wonder how people can try this in 15mn allowed by Google, he has not even a demo version, and if he change name of his app refund will be hard to get ! Not a good bet in long term, he will rip fews people maybe but negative review will come back sooner or later.
no problem for reporting him as he isn't honest.
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Definitely not a trust worthy dev, you're right.
I wonder how people can try this in 15mn allowed by Google, he has not even a demo version, and if he change name of his app refund will be hard to get ! Not a good bet in long term, he will rip fews people maybe but negative review will come back sooner or later.
no problem for reporting him as he isn't honest.
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I did a bit of thinking after my initial pay and deleted him. I explained everything thoroughly so hopefully Google will do something. It would help if other people reputed him as well. I hate to see people lose their hard earned money to some scam artist.
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DTV would be good but isn't having loads of wires defeating the object of have a small, lightweight portable unit? Out of curiosity I'd like to try with my USB DVB-T tuner but I don't think it's something I'd use all the time.
I set up a Mediaportal Server running from my main NAS which has a Dual DVB-S2 tuner. With a little messing I now have full live TV on the tablet anywhere. I got the 16GB wifi version so I use my phones 3G for it when I'm out and about. I also set up a web server running from the same backend that links into my Movie and TV show database. With Dolphin and the Flash plugin, you can get Live TV, Video, TV Shows and Music from your home server/NAS in a browser. The easiest way is to set up Mediaportal and MPextend, then just use aMPdroid on the tablet. It's not a 5 minute set up by no means but worth it in the end.
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DTV would be good but isn't having loads of wires defeating the object of have a small, lightweight portable unit? Out of curiosity I'd like to try with my USB DVB-T tuner but I don't think it's something I'd use all the time.
I set up a Mediaportal Server running from my main NAS which has a Dual DVB-S2 tuner. With a little messing I now have full live TV on the tablet anywhere. I got the 16GB wifi version so I use my phones 3G for it when I'm out and about. I also set up a web server running from the same backend that links into my Movie and TV show database. With Dolphin and the Flash plugin, you can get Live TV, Video, TV Shows and Music from your home server/NAS in a browser. The easiest way is to set up Mediaportal and MPextend, then just use aMPdroid on the tablet. It's not a 5 minute set up by no means but worth it in the end.
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Which DTV USB stick are you using?
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Which DTV USB stick are you using?
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I have a Nova TD USB but I've not tried this direct in the tablet. My live TV comes via my NAS server.
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I have a Nova TD USB but I've not tried this direct in the tablet. My live TV comes via my NAS server.
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Ah, gotcha.
Do you have any plans to test the USB stick in your XTZ?
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shangrila500 said:
Ah, gotcha.
Do you have any plans to test the USB stick in your XTZ?
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Oh yes I'll try at some point. Trying to find a driver that will run it will be the hard part. Maybe when the CM people and Ubuntu really start digging into these devices we may get a working one but up to now I've had no luck. I have a few old USB types to try so I'm not limited to Hauppauge.
I must repeat what I said before though.. With the tools we have these days, there's no point in having bits hanging out of any wireless enabled device. The benefits just aren't there. I can get any UK channel on my tablet nigh on anywhere that has 3G if I wish. I don't worry about DVB-T/S signal strength as it's fed from my home aerial or dish. And as a bonus I get my film and TV collection too. From what you guys have said, you have the hardware and the software for both PC and Android is free so you might as well put it to use until it can be tested direct in the tablet.... Or that's the way I see it
I'll let you know if I find anything out and we will see if we can get one in the tablet running.
Update 27/07 - did not improve the radio enough to recommend this modification/change.
Apparently the TEF6686 module has better performance than the TDA7786 - e.g. 7786 poor sensitivity, selectivity, multipath issues etc. My JY TDA7768 is terrible, even with an RF amp, so to find out if the TEF is any better, thought I would try and investigated swapping tuner modules. Reviewing the GS board I have as a spare part against my JY, I identified the modules are pin-for-pin compatible.
Sucessfully swapped the Radio module from a donor GS board containing a TEF6686 Module into my JY board originally containing a TDA7786. The GS board was quite difficult to unsolder the module, perhaps due to leadfree solder, fortunately the JY board was easy, the desolder wick readily desoldering the module.
As for results, I have bench tested and RDS, tuning, audio etc is OK, I am yet to test in the vehicle. Will update this thread with results.
See attached images. Note that the JY case had additional mounts that over time might short out against the non-ground PCB tracks, resulting in complete failure of the unit!
Welcoming any questions.
Did the reception really improved?? And RDS AF fuction is working well with malaysyk V3 firmware?
also interested in this outcome
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Hi,
The tef6686 appears marginally better, is more sensitive and appears to handle multipath better. Im not sure if I would call it out as a worthy upgrade just yet - need more time.
wonder if it can be bought on its own.. seems like just the chip itself which is surfaced mounted on the riser card as pictured above.. so this would prove difficult to install
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stinger4321 said:
wonder if it can be bought on its own.. seems like just the chip itself which is surfaced mounted on the riser card as pictured above.. so this would prove difficult to install
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Ive seen a suitable module available on aliexpress that would need some modification to swap a couple of pins. That is the TEF6686-TDQ-230V-186 (10 pin) - a whole $6 bucks US.
http://s.aliexpress.com/QBfay
Next week this module come to me , so in the next weekend I have time to swap.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...32809641460.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.y1ZYeS
cupi1234 said:
Next week this module come to me , so in the next weekend I have time to swap.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...32809641460.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.y1ZYeS
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That's great, don't forget these are not pin-pin identical and will have to figure out swapping pins. Search for the manufacturer PDF and check against the mtcd schematic. I'll upload the module PDF later today.
Hi, final thoughts - the upgrade in my experience was marginally better - not worth it!
marchnz said:
Hi, final thoughts - the upgrade in my experience was marginally better - not worth it!
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could be something else in the implementation, not just the chip itself.
i have 2 boxes, one with 7786, the other with 6686 and the difference in reception is worlds apart. I mean even with the powered antenna not connected to 12V, i had no hiss on any station received.
7786 with powered antenna is just fine, don't get me wrong, but 6686 is better.
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could be something else in the implementation, not just the chip itself.
i have 2 boxes, one with 7786, the other with 6686 and the difference in reception is worlds apart. I mean even with the powered antenna not connected to 12V, i had no hiss on any station received.
7786 with powered antenna is just fine, don't get me wrong, but 6686 is better.
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I had thought about that but there's no difference in implementation I can see after comparing from schematic. Perhaps I had a 'good' 7786.
- MCU is latest HA
- Both modules are digitally controlled by MCU/i2c bus.
- same supply
- latest HA android 6.
There's really not much to it, 5volts, antenna connection, i2c comms and audio out. I get multipath noise/crackles from stations between 99 and 102mhz. Same between both tda and TEF.
Can you clarify what you mean by 'better'.
Hi!
Maybe there are some differences in the Radio Software used in the different HU. The Chip is controlled by I2C and it seems to be possible to activate or change some behavior of FM Reception through some commands.
Is it maybe possible to extract the radio Software from the good HU so we can try it out on different devices (with TEF 6686).
It would be really nice if it would be possible to control some of the possible configuration of the chip manually...
Stephan
netguru said:
Hi!
Maybe there are some differences in the Radio Software used in the different HU. The Chip is controlled by I2C and it seems to be possible to activate or change some behavior of FM Reception through some commands.
Is it maybe possible to extract the radio Software from the good HU so we can try it out on different devices (with TEF 6686).
It would be really nice if it would be possible to control some of the possible configuration of the chip manually...
Stephan
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No differences in android and same MCU, MCU controls radio module via I2c. The "upgrade " has no discernable difference.
Any more details? I need a more sensitive tuner. I have a full power mast but my car is all SMC so the radio needs all the help it can get.
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Any more details? I need a more sensitive tuner. I have a full power mast but my car is all SMC so the radio needs all the help it can get.
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Sure - there are two different tuner modules and neither of them are 'better'. I suspect its hit and miss in the production of either modules.
If you have a proper external antenna, which is properly connected, there's nothing you can do apart from using internet streams or DAB if available for best quality.
thanks, do you know if these unit have the 7786 or the 7786M IC?
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Hi!
Maybe there are some differences in the Radio Software used in the different HU. The Chip is controlled by I2C and it seems to be possible to activate or change some behavior of FM Reception through some commands.
Is it maybe possible to extract the radio Software from the good HU so we can try it out on different devices (with TEF 6686).
It would be really nice if it would be possible to control some of the possible configuration of the chip manually...
Stephan
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No differences in android and same MCU, MCU controls radio module via I2c. The "upgrade " has no discernable difference.
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Are you sure ? Cos on MTCB/C units the AF doesnt work and the PTY is plain wrong (I have an MTCD unit now but I havent tested the radio yet, its still on the bench), but someone (deffo Italian I remember that) made some changes and got PTY to work correctly and I thought he did it by modding the app ratehr than anything on the MCU side. Sadly I cant remember exactly what thread it was in, or who it was.
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thanks, do you know if these unit have the 7786 or the 7786M IC?
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Unfortunately the only way to tell on MTCD untis is to open it up, unlike the MTCB/C units where you can select the tuner type in facory settings, which is strange cos MTCD MCUs are much more powerful 32 but compared to MTCB/C's 8bit . . .
. . . or maybe there is a way ? - @marchnz's dmesg output mentions "6686" in the first post.
Hi,
Can someone help with radio module pins schematic for XD-6686AF-0. This is same radio module that @marchnz has swaped. I am forced to change main that is not pin to pin identical to TEF6686-TDQ-230V-86-TDQ-230V-86-R that I have from aliexpress.
Thank you
P.S.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/mtcd-discussion-questions-development/mtcd-schematic-t3637816
I guess this is what I am looking for.
Leaving a tip for everyone looking for this schematic.
Thanks to @marchnz
skf123 said:
Hi,
Can someone help with radio module pins schematic for XD-6686AF-0. This is same radio module that @marchnz has swaped. I am forced to change main that is not pin to pin identical to TEF6686-TDQ-230V-86-TDQ-230V-86-R that I have from aliexpress.
Thank you
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Do you have a datasheet? Shouldnt be too hard to match up against schematic.
marchnz said:
Do you have a datasheet? Shouldnt be too hard to match up against schematic.
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Radio module that comes from aliexpress has description on every pin.
Can be seen on the picture that is provided in this link.
I can make a new photo if someone needs clear image of this module.