i tink that LG was waiting for cooking a stock rom based on android 2.4 (instead of the 2.3 promised) because of their similarities, in fact the gpu accelerations for 2D, rumored for the 2.4, can only help our P500 performance.
i hope this, and you?
Ps: i tink that a P500 at 150$ with 2.4 in the very next month can bring android for many doubtful people..
I'm not really keeping my hopes up. I bet the last official update we'll receive is Gingerbread. Most companies focus on their flagship phones, and despite the O1's popularity, I don't think it'll receive much.
Also, IMHO, Google is going too fast. Manufacturers are having a hard time catching up and stuff.
But if you ask me, I'm contented with Froyo. Unless, of course, there's a really badass killer feature available only to future releases.
And I think this should be in the General category
kpbotbot- It's more like manufacturers use the differente Android os'es for marketing uses . Look at samsung , they're waiting to release the native 2.3 devices and bearly then will they release gingerbread for their current flagship : Galaxy S . It's a dirty world .
Yeah. Here's a super thank-able screenshot I took weeks ago
LG and Samsung seem like very different companies. The Optimus line is a very good buy for most carriers. It will convert a lot of users to the Android world like me. LG seems to catter to their users too.
The manufacturers should understand Android devices should follow Googles releases. It seems like most manufacturers just barely make the software and communities like xda do the actual bug fixing and create a more robust system with the custom kernel & ROM releases.
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why would companies spend money and time in the software when
communities like xda do the actual bug fixing and create a more robust system with the custom kernel & ROM releases.
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@orlox - Imagine buying a phone that doesn't come with an operating system.
I prefer if companies release only the lifeless phone, and xda would give life to it.
So androids will be much cheaper
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I prefer if companies release only the lifeless phone, and xda would give life to it.
So androids will be much cheaper
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I like the idea!
Post delivered via piece of paper tied to a brick... sorry 'bout the window! XD
The reason I chose this phone is because, for me, it's a small portable computer. If only every bit of hardware of this phone had a corresponding device driver (that we can get hold of), I think there's nothing stopping us from using a full Linux desktop, or other operating systems capable of running on the ARM architecture.
Not so relevant note: Some say the bootloader is locked. True?
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The reason I chose this phone is because, for me, it's a small portable computer.
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So true!
I am very satisfied with my first Android experience, in spite of all the bugs and hardware limitations of this cheap phone. Almost anything I needed but couldn't do before on my "dumb" phone became possible with this micro computer. So I don't really care if it's running Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Ice Cream or Milk & Toast & Honey.
You would care if it was running Cupcake.
P.S There really is a possibility for us to get 2.4 on our phones. It is still called Gingerbread but it will support Honeycomb apps.
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there are some questions to answer, why people buy a smartphone in general. We must see the differences between users who "use" the mobile as a daily instrument, users who use the mobile to play 3D games, users who read in the internet and communicate with it and users who are tweaking/hacking (not so sad as i write here). Most of users are using their device for communication, and so the manufacturers can say "why we should develop so fast as google? Our users doesn't need the new features like NFC or other". When communities like XDA, Cyanogen,CodeAurora,androidcentral or others develop their ROMs to their needs, they should do that - they are users who "want" the features. So, manufacturers can invest more time and money in new devices for more experience and for advanced users (like technical freaks). We (users who are lucky for while) can buy the "new" device at a later time, so we can save some money. Nothing other does LG,Samsung or HTC - they are developing for the feature. The money and time to invest in updates or bugfixes are too much for the most - this could be one reason for hold back updates or dont develop. As a developer i can say, the time to spend for Gingerbread development is not small - i have needed 3 monthes to develop a rom, that have just some bugs, and i've do that for fun. for a manufacturer this is not fun
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Yeah. Here's a super thank-able screenshot I took weeks ago
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This makes perfect sense from the carrier's perspective. If people had to pay to upgrade to the next version the carriers might have more incentive; as it is now they aren't seeing any more money so why bother investing time on something that could blow up in their face.
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there are some questions to answer, why people buy a smartphone in general. We must see the differences between users who "use" the mobile as a daily instrument, users who use the mobile to play 3D games, users who read in the internet and communicate with it and users who are tweaking/hacking (not so sad as i write here). Most of users are using their device for communication, and so the manufacturers can say "why we should develop so fast as google? Our users doesn't need the new features like NFC or other". When communities like XDA, Cyanogen,CodeAurora,androidcentral or others develop their ROMs to their needs, they should do that - they are users who "want" the features. So, manufacturers can invest more time and money in new devices for more experience and for advanced users (like technical freaks). We (users who are lucky for while) can buy the "new" device at a later time, so we can save some money. Nothing other does LG,Samsung or HTC - they are developing for the feature. The money and time to invest in updates or bugfixes are too much for the most - this could be one reason for hold back updates or dont develop. As a developer i can say, the time to spend for Gingerbread development is not small - i have needed 3 monthes to develop a rom, that have just some bugs, and i've do that for fun. for a manufacturer this is not fun
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Yeah , bro , but you're one man fighting against the tides . It's bound that LG has at least a reminder of 5 man cell team working on getting gingerbread out . And besides they have other ways of getting info and ironing out bugs faster then you can .
Sad that they didn't place on the internet a god damn ETA by now .... thus I guess may or june might a realistic launch date
Oh and to be on-topic with the thread , I guess we'll see 2.4 by CM7 if any of the legendary devs still take interest in this phone ofc
+1 i second that...plus i heard that not all the code used is even OPEN..I mean mik somewhere mentioned that some libraries had no corresponding code in the source code archive....thats gotta stink plus porting of android is different than developiing Linux Distro..I mean no mailing lists and not such a big community of "porters"....but tahts just my take..
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+1 i second that...plus i heard that not all the code used is even OPEN..I mean mik somewhere mentioned that some libraries had no corresponding code in the source code archive....thats gotta stink plus porting of android is different than developiing Linux Distro..I mean no mailing lists and not such a big community of "porters"....but tahts just my take..
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you're right:
many libraries are closed source, it's like a driver from nvidia for Linux X.org.
The only way to port it to a new android version is to test if it works - if not, we have a problem. manufacturer does not support communities, so we have to build many workarounds or rewrite the code so that it works. i would wish, the manufacturers opens their drivers and codecs for playing audio and video - so we can develop faster, more stable and uncomplicated:/
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i've readed the last days that gingerbread 2.4 is the internal 2.3.3 - let's check, if apps for honeycomb work on this version: in 2.4 there should be compatibility for the honeycomb apps^^
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you're right:
many libraries are closed source, it's like a driver from nvidia for Linux X.org.
The only way to port it to a new android version is to test if it works - if not, we have a problem. manufacturer does not support communities, so we have to build many workarounds or rewrite the code so that it works. i would wish, the manufacturers opens their drivers and codecs for playing audio and video - so we can develop faster, more stable and uncomplicated:/
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i've readed the last days that gingerbread 2.4 is the internal 2.3.3 - let's check, if apps for honeycomb work on this version: in 2.4 there should be compatibility for the honeycomb apps^^
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if everything's open then it is unlikely they make money. Then they close down and there won't be any phone.
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@yanuk... seems to be like u have not used linux before...Let me tell you how it works...Theres tons of companies (apart from thousands of enthusiasts) that write OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS for their hardware and submit it to the LINUX KERNEL maintainers(Linus torvalds included) example INTEL..If i m buying an ANDROID phone, i only want to pay for the hardware and not software..All drivers developed by the manufacturer shud be open source ..BUt instead its more like an abuse of the OPEN SOURCE community ..HOw CAn devs go ahead and hack the crap out of their phones, when they have trouble even porting newer OSes because of "some f****** proprietary driver" ...Screw the manufacturers ..I wish OPENMOKO had taken off when it had the chance..OPENMOKO = OPEN SOURCE OS +OPEN SOURCE HARDWARE with all datasheets, spec, circuit diagrams available..RUn whatever u possible can run on an it !!! My dream of having a completely Open (gtk runnin) geek device is still very distant..
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@yanuk... seems to be like u have not used linux before...Let me tell you how it works...Theres tons of companies (apart from thousands of enthusiasts) that write OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS for their hardware and submit it to the LINUX KERNEL maintainers(Linus torvalds included) example INTEL..If i m buying an ANDROID phone, i only want to pay for the hardware and not software..All drivers developed by the manufacturer shud be open source ..BUt instead its more like an abuse of the OPEN SOURCE community ..HOw CAn devs go ahead and hack the crap out of their phones, when they have trouble even porting newer OSes because of "some f****** proprietary driver" ...Screw the manufacturers ..I wish OPENMOKO had taken off when it had the chance..OPENMOKO = OPEN SOURCE OS +OPEN SOURCE HARDWARE with all datasheets, spec, circuit diagrams available..RUn whatever u possible can run on an it !!! My dream of having a completely Open (gtk runnin) geek device is still very distant..
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Seems like you have not worked in and managed any technology firms before.
I'm sincerely hoping your dream come true where you will own a successful openmoko company develop cutting edge technology with over 100 staff and offer your sw and hw for free with no claims to patent rights. All the best!
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hi all
now Siri in IPhone it is amazing
is there any way to make siri work on HD2
other wise make IOS4 install in HD2 then we can install Siri
thanks
oops ignore this please.
I would like to ignore the content of that question, but i cannot ignore that this is his first post after being a member for more than a year, so...
...congratulations to your first post.
There is a hack for Iphone 4 yet but I'm afraid Siri (and also iOS) will never be available on HD2.
Get Android on your HD2 and then try Iris.
impossible
it impossible try iris on rom android
i think porting ios for hd2 is a good idea...may be in future it could be possible
iOS on HD2, Not gunna happen, simple!
Siri on Android, Possible and already in works but pointless as I've been using Siri on my new (and temporary) iPhone 4S and its crap. Its just a simple gimmick that was added to try and make dumb people see the iPhone 4S as something more then an incremental upgrade.
Android has had same abilities (for most part) as Siri for long time. This goes for 99% of iPhone itself as far as "new" features it likes to market as revolutionary, like app drawers, icons, touch screens etc.
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i think porting ios for hd2 is a good idea...may be in future it could be possible
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Don't hold your breath, there's no source code to work from, plus even if there were, most mods wouldn't touch it for fear of the apple goons kicking their door down.
hi
can this be done on my htc hd2 windows mobile 6.5
Hi! I've been developing apps for BB10 using cascades lately, and I would like to know if anybody is interested in that topic, and if you think it would be agood idea to have a thread for that (Sorry if I'm breaking any rules, I don't even know if BB10 devices are something xda users are inerested in)
Thanks in advance for your time and your attention.
ClowReedd.
Anyone interested in this?
... I don't know if nobody is interested in this platform, or if it is against the rules to request a forum for another platfomr as I did... I hope it is just against the rules, as it would be great to have more developers working on BB10 and cascades. The more competition there is, the better apps the final user will get
Thankd for your attention, and sorry if I'm doing something against the rules.
ClowReedd.
BB10 ? i think BB is so difficult to dev
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android is better than bb os
BB10 is awesome for devs!
I explored bb10 platform and it's awesome.People who develop for android can feel home here as they provide tools to port the apps with little or no coding.They support Native c++,adobe air,html5 apps.
The thing that interests me is they are very supportive giving away devices to devs and bounty promotions.
U guys have to understand that BB10 is evolving with time,see 10.2 is coming this or nxt month and it upgrades the Android runtime upgrades to 4.2.2
BB10 has android like in an emulated environment but can be easily usable with launcher app but currently it restricts many things like rooting and other but don't know abt that cause most devs and modders for bb10 are all-time bb users.So android hackers and modders may be able to root it.
Don't complain abt low app support,like bloatware on android phones which can be removed by custom roms.BB10 can use android app which are converted by tools which can be found everywhere.
I use most of the apps on my Z10 LE-instagram,snapseed,xda app,all....even games like NFS MW:victory:
Anyway just go through BB10 dev site and have a good time!
https://developer.blackberry.com/
Yes! I'm interested! The best thing of BB10 is that it natively allows Qt development!
Can any developer try making iOS custom ROM for RN3 !!
iOS?! Wrong section btw.
Use miui....its like ios
Wrong section.
miui is implementing ios themed in almost everything, plus, why you don't try theme store, it has a lot of ios themed theme right there.
Use miui use theme iOS or buy iphone
Oh great idea. I'm sure a dev is going to get right on that. And I'm sure it will run iOS apps instead of Android apps with no problem too. Sure, no problem. I can't believe no one's thought of this before.
/sarcasm
Please make Krexus 7.1 rom
Why r u so fool
Lol
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Ok, since everybody is making joke of you, let me clarify why it's impossible.
Why do iPhone's cost so much? Because they have a great OS (iOS). The apple developers spent a lot of time working on this system and that's why they won't share their work (sources). And that's why porting iOS becomes much much harder (same for Windows Mobile).
So if you want iOS you MUST buy an iPhone.
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What about Carbon Rom..??
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Why do iPhone's cost so much? Because they have a great OS (iOS).
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Great OS? LOL. It's **** compared to pretty much any build of Android.
I'll tell you the real reason why iPhones cost so much: Brand recognition. That's pretty much it. Same reason why Calvin Klein jeans cost more than no-name jeans.
That, and maybe the fact that some people - especially low-end users - prefer iOS because it's simpler and has less options and settings to mess with.
Also, why it's (pretty much) impossible? Different architecture. Seem reason you can't install OS X on a Windows PC. (Yes, I know there are emulators and open source projects that can somewhat do this, but you get my point.)
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Great OS? LOL. It's **** compared to pretty much any build of Android.
I'll tell you the real reason why iPhones cost so much: Brand recognition. That's pretty much it. Same reason why Calvin Klein jeans cost more than no-name jeans.
That, and maybe the fact that some people - especially low-end users - prefer iOS because it's simpler and has less options and settings to mess with.
Also, why it's (pretty much) impossible? Different architecture. Seem reason you can't install OS X on a Windows PC. (Yes, I know there are emulators and open source projects that can somewhat do this, but you get my point.)
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I totally agree with you.
They were the first to introduce an innovative OS and now their fans will buy anything that has an apple logo on it.
Sadly, same thing happened with Samsung. Prices are comparable to iPhone's and people still buy them
By saying "great" I mean very good optimisation and most importantly, it's made for simple users.
I've seen so many people with android, who don't even know 70% of the possibilities of android.
Different architecture may also be a reason.
If any iOS port existed, I would definitely try it, just to see why people say it's "the best", but still, it's way too simple for me.
Simple reason why ios cant be ported to any android devices is ios is a closed source.they keep their os intact unlike google.so there is no possibility that it could be ported ,only one thing can be done that is theming any rom just like ios.
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