Hi everyone, can someone point me out where I could find an ics stock rom that doesn't have touchwiz?
All the versions that I've found are custom, but I would like to try one that hasn't been messed around by Samsung. I really want to try out ICS with the original look.
Regards
I'm lost, you want a samsung stock rom -because you have a samsung device- without the samsung's touch?
I want Android 4.0.4 without the touchwiz interface, isn't that possible?
well...you're talking custom now....but I think you don't want custom...lol that's the thing.
Maybe I didn't explain myself properly in the first post, i basically want a version of 4.0.4 with the normal look. So yes it ends up being a custom :laugh:
I thought there was a stock version of ICS (from another manufacture) that would work on the GSII, therefore not having touchwiz.
I got what you said. I'm trying to make you see what you're asking for.
You want ICS, 4.0.3.
You don't want TouchWiz
You don't want a custom ROM.
You have a Samsung device.
You want a Stock Samsung ROM.
Samsung uses touchwiz on it's ROMs
brunomiiguel said:
Hi everyone, can someone point me out where I could find an ics stock rom that doesn't have touchwiz?
All the versions that I've found are custom, but I would like to try one that hasn't been messed around by Samsung. I really want to try out ICS with the original look.
Regards
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This is probably the closest you can get to stock Android..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076650
Alternatively you could try Cyanogenmod 9 (ICS) or 10 (JB). They are based on pure android (AOSP) but have lost of tweaks and features and are generally much better then stock AOSP.
gastonw said:
I got what you said. I'm trying to make you see what you're asking for.
You want ICS, 4.0.3.
You don't want TouchWiz
You don't want a custom ROM.
You have a Samsung device.
You want a Stock Samsung ROM.
Samsung uses touchwiz on it's ROMs
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When I said "stock" I didn't meant a stock rom from samsung, I presume that there is a stock version of Android 4.0.4 (the one I was referring to) and then Samsung changed it with touchwiz.
I didn't (past) want customs since I presumed that there was an official stock version of Android without touchwiz for the GSII, apparently there isn't, so I ended up asking for a custom rom without knowing it was the only way of having what I want.
So to sum up:
I want ICS 4.0.4 (or 4.0.3, don't know the difference)
I don't want Touchwiz
That's it, sorry for the confusion
TheATHEiST isn't that rom Jelly Bean? My battery is already taking a beating with ICS, JB will probably last a lot less right? Although i'm already undervolting and underclocking
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When I said "stock" I didn't meant a stock rom from samsung, I presume that there is a stock version of Android 4.0.4 (the one I was referring to) and then Samsung changed it with touchwiz.
I didn't (past) want customs since I presumed that there was an official stock version of Android without touchwiz for the GSII, apparently there isn't, so I ended up asking for a custom rom without knowing it was the only way of having what I want.
So to sum up:
I want ICS 4.0.4 (or 4.0.3, don't know the difference)
I don't want Touchwiz
That's it, sorry for the confusion
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It's clear The post from TheATHEiST should be the answer to your question.
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But he want ICS.....
@OP There's no confussion, what you want is a custom rom, because you have a SAMSUNG device, and samsung devices, when in STOCK ROMs, always have TouchWiz attached.
Here's an example:
Samsung releases ROM (TouchWiz included of course)
John Q takes that ROM and deletes TouchWiz.
John Q now has a Samsung ROM without TouchWiz. Also Called CUSTOM ROM.
gastonw said:
But he want ICS.....
@OP There's no confussion, what you want is a custom rom, because you have a SAMSUNG device, and samsung devices, when in STOCK ROMs, always have TouchWiz attached.
Here's an example:
Samsung releases ROM (TouchWiz included of course)
John Q takes that ROM and deletes TouchWiz.
John Q now has a Samsung ROM without TouchWiz. Also Called CUSTOM ROM.
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CM9 is ICS. And the OP could flash an older version from other roms that are ICS.
Also he could download another launcher from the Play Store.
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Donnie Sins I already tried other custom roms, but I'd like to go for the basic ICS with no visual changes for now... Doesn't launchers use too much juice?
god......
brunomiiguel said:
Donnie Sins I already tried other custom roms, but I'd like to go for the basic ICS with no visual changes for now... Doesn't launchers use too much juice?
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Then flash CyanogenMod 9 like TheATHEiST allready said. And no, launchers replace each other, but that isn't important now because you want CM9.
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gastonw I was answering to #7 an #9 before I edited my post, it's hard to respond or edit with a minimum 5 minute wait designed for new members.
TheATHEiST said:
Alternatively you could try Cyanogenmod 9 (ICS) or 10 (JB). They are based on pure android (AOSP) but have lost of tweaks and features and are generally much better then stock AOSP.
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Donnie Sins said:
Then flash CyanogenMod 9 like TheATHEiST allready said. And no, launchers replace each other, but that isn't important now because you want CM9.
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I always though CM9 had a different interface but apparently it does not. Seems like the perfect way to go
Thanks guys.
Enjoy CM9 then.
After BRICKING my GT-i9100 I managed to restore from here with a stock rom......not sure if this helps.:fingers-crossed:
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-ap...ck-android-rom-on-samsung-galaxy-s2-50007880/
every stock ROMs you flash into an S II will have TouchWiz, just because it's samsung interface.
Nah, he was asking for an AOSP rom like CM, not a way for bricking and restoring
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Donnie Sins said:
Nah, he was asking for an AOSP rom like CM, not a way for bricking and restoring
Sent from the Matrix
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He want's an AOSP that is not customed, "the real ICS experience" he said, no custom, stock.
Samsung guys are having a laugh right now.
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I got my SII a few month back, and ever since I've tried quite a few custom ROMs. Due to some issues etc I'd like to do a complete wipe and restore the latest Samsung ROM (while maintaining my root access) - any idea how I do this?
Can I do it via CWM (preferred), Odin or must I use Kies?
Many thanks!
Follow this guide
It also has all the download links in the thread.
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Clean Slate for those that balls up the firmware .Or need to return to service or decide if its hardware/firmware problem .
Backup data first if phone is working .
Boot CWM recovery
Mounts and Storage
Format cache data system sd card .
Remove battery
Boot to download mode
Open Odin
Install correct stock firmware .
Still problems use usb jig to set rom counter to zero .
Return to service centre .
Much appreciated. Any idea how I can pick the correct firmware though? I guess it's not just a matter of picking the latest one?
Nitsson said:
Much appreciated. Any idea how I can pick the correct firmware though? I guess it's not just a matter of picking the latest one?
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KK5 is a good one, go for that, or chose your carrier rom from the other thread with them all (linked from that one)
veyka said:
KK5 is a good one, go for that, or chose your carrier rom from the other thread with them all (linked from that one)
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Great, thanks. Worked like a charm. Replaced the kernel with CFs modded KK5 version and am enjoying a force-close-free experience. Now if I could just have a vanilla ICS version, I would be very happy. Say what you will about Apple, but their iOS upgrades rock.
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Great, thanks. Worked like a charm. Replaced the kernel with CFs modded KK5 version and am enjoying a force-close-free experience. Now if I could just have a vanilla ICS version, I would be very happy. Say what you will about Apple, but their iOS upgrades rock.
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ICS is coming, we have roms, but they are not stable or recomended. If you want vanilla ICS you will want to follow the development of CM9, as samsungs ICS roms will have touchwizz allover them.
Apples updates are nice, thats what happens when you do the hardware and the software, just like the Nexus series
veyka said:
ICS is coming, we have roms, but they are not stable or recomended. If you want vanilla ICS you will want to follow the development of CM9, as samsungs ICS roms will have touchwizz allover them.
Apples updates are nice, thats what happens when you do the hardware and the software, just like the Nexus series
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True, but tbh I just went back to stock from the final CM7 version as I found it too buggy (force close issues etc). Perhaps CM9 will be better and I look forward to its release. With the official Samsung ICS release, can't you actually disable TouchWizz? I assumed it's just a launcher on top of vanilla ICS and that you can disable / remove it.
Nitsson said:
True, but tbh I just went back to stock from the final CM7 version as I found it too buggy (force close issues etc). Perhaps CM9 will be better and I look forward to its release. With the official Samsung ICS release, can't you actually disable TouchWizz? I assumed it's just a launcher on top of vanilla ICS and that you can disable / remove it.
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What samsung have done to make and run touchwizz on the top pure android it's more complicated and deeper which you could simply disable it. now i'm using stock firmware with siyah kernel but after watching some videos on youtube and comparing leaked realeses of touchwizz and cm9 I have no doubt to imigrate to cm9
if u wanna get back to stock, odin is ur choice!
mekhonte said:
What samsung have done to make and run touchwizz on the top pure android it's more complicated and deeper which you could simply disable it. now i'm using stock firmware with siyah kernel but after watching some videos on youtube and comparing leaked realeses of touchwizz and cm9 I have no doubt to imigrate to cm9
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Yeah, I figure it goes under the hood a bit I look forward to testing the stable release as soon as that's out - guess they need to wait for the final Samsung kernel so it may be a while.
Nitsson said:
Yeah, I figure it goes under the hood a bit I look forward to testing the stable release as soon as that's out - guess they need to wait for the final Samsung kernel so it may be a while.
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yep you'd better to wait for a while last week i gave it a shot, although it was smooth there was some issues which makes it not appropriate for every day use.
lol. wish i read this earlier =(
Hi,
I really want to get pure ics on my galaxy s II. Currently i'm on 2.3.4 gingerbread, unrooted.
I have asked a few questions about how to root my phone, and found a pretty straight forward tutorial, that users on xda have said is great to follow:
jayceooi.com/2011/08/04/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s2-with-cf-root-video
Rooting the phone appears to be pretty straight forward using the above tutorial, but finding the correct rom is what im not so sure about.
Users on xda have told me to use:
forum.xda developers.com/show....php?t=1075278 , to find a rom, specifically the ones just above ++++++ [Frankenstein Firmwares] +++++++
The only problem is, how do i know which one to use, i gather its going to be the 4.0.3 roms, but there are so many varients for different countries, which one is for me?
Does it matter which one i choose? Is there differences between them?
*I have previously posted this thread elsewhere, and members have told me to resubmit it here, as I may get more help. I couple of forumers have mentioned that I should use the xwlp4 ROM as it is the latest ICS ROM.
Thanks,
By pure ics do you mean ics without touchwiz etc or do you mean a stock Samsung rom?
The Frankenstein ones on intratechs thread are Samsung based.
If you want pure ics without any of the Samsung bloat cm9 is a great option and is already 4.04
If you want Samsung based then the latest is lp4 I think.
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yeah, basically i want my Galaxy S II running ICS with no touchwiz
assassin204 said:
yeah, basically i want my Galaxy S II running ICS with no touchwiz
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If this is the case forget all the ROMS in Intratechs section, even the Frankenstein ones as they are all samsung originals with all the samsung apps and touchwiz.
If you are looking for a root / pure ICS option CM9 is a good start with terrific dev support. I've been using it for a while now and it really is rock solid and keeps improving.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
ok cool, would that be the equivalent of something like this:
http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-r...ro-ics-rom-v-1-1-on-galaxy-s2-i9100-best-rom/
Not used that one myself but looks to be closer to the pure ics you are after.
I'd still give cm9 a try. There is a resurrection edition flashable through Odin.
Definitely preferable to the Samsung official ones!
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SlimICS might work
You may want to search for Slim ICS... It's another light option.
assassin204 said:
ok cool, would that be the equivalent of something like this:
http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-r...ro-ics-rom-v-1-1-on-galaxy-s2-i9100-best-rom/
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I currently use this ROM. It has Apex Launcher so no Touchwiz, but it does have Samsung apps.
Although I'm no fan of TW or any of these apps, the ROM itself is great.
Go for HyDrOG3N-ICS with Siyah Kernel Best rom and kernel combo you're going to find out there for PURE ICS and lots of customization. It's stable, fast and really good battery life.
I keep hearing about the flapjax rom or something, cant find it. I dont think im spelling it right. Where is it? Is it very stable? Looking for the MOST stable rom with good language keyboard support for my mom. She doesnt need all the cool features, might even go with stock but if there's a stock jellybean that's really stable and has a good pack of keyboard languages id love to hear it.
If you want stable, go for an ICS ROM. The devs have done amazing work on the JB ROMs but unfortunately, there are some things that simply can't be done until official drivers and kernel sources are available from Samsung.
ChronoReverse said:
If you want stable, go for an ICS ROM. The devs have done amazing work on the JB ROMs but unfortunately, there are some things that simply can't be done until official drivers and kernel sources are available from Samsung.
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Yeah I think Ill do that. Its not like my mom will know the difference between ICS and jB. Rather have it work 100% than 90% for her.
Any recommendations for a really stable ICS almost like factory stock other than PA and avatar? I tried to download the 4.0.4 tmobile stock rom but the download link is dead and when I odin the file from samfirmware or whatever it will cause it to freeze on boot. Stock ICS would be fine with me.
kettlecorn said:
I keep hearing about the flapjax rom or something, cant find it. I dont think im spelling it right. Where is it? Is it very stable? Looking for the MOST stable rom with good language keyboard support for my mom. She doesnt need all the cool features, might even go with stock but if there's a stock jellybean that's really stable and has a good pack of keyboard languages id love to hear it.
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Flappjaxxx is an awesome dev that used to be here on XDA. He is no longer here which we don't need to discuss why that is. If you use google you can most likely find his roms fairly easily. I suggest yuo stick with a stock ATT based rom is you want solid performance with out all the bells and whistles. You can find some things here in the dev section or on flapps site if you happen to find that
kettlecorn said:
YAny recommendations for a really stable ICS almost like factory stock other than PA and avatar? I tried to download the 4.0.4 tmobile stock rom but the download link is dead and when I odin the file from samfirmware or whatever it will cause it to freeze on boot. Stock ICS would be fine with me.
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Like Stock as in TouchWiz or like Stock as in AOSP?
If you mean as in Samsung Galaxy Note stock TouchWiz, then you could try Novena.
ChronoReverse said:
Like Stock as in TouchWiz or like Stock as in AOSP?
If you mean as in Samsung Galaxy Note stock TouchWiz, then you could try Novena.
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touchwiz. AOSP is going to be more prone to bugs and issues than a rom that was made by samsung for the note
You can find flapps rom on goomanager,I haven't used anything but his since mash ,best roms and kernels
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Hello. I have Galaxy S3 (not carrier version, international), rooted. Now I want to install just clean Android 4.2 (with no bloatware, changes, etc).
1) Is it possible? Without installing stock or custom ROMS. Just clean Android 4.2
2) If I have to install custom ROMS anyway - which of them closer to clean Android 4.2 (without bloatware or modification). Which one to choose and where to get right instruction for newbies?
Thank you very much for helping me!
galaktiker said:
Hello. I have Galaxy S3 (not carrier version, international), rooted. Now I want to install just clean Android 4.2 (with no bloatware, changes, etc).
1) Is it possible? Without installing stock or custom ROMS. Just clean Android 4.2
2) If I have to install custom ROMS anyway - which of them closer to clean Android 4.2 (without bloatware or modification). Which one to choose and where to get right instruction for newbies?
Thank you very much for helping me!
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If you are talking about stock 4.2 check the development section, a few 4.2.2 roms out there as for instance SlimBean or Liquid, with other words you cannot get 4.2 direct from Google.
If you are talking about Samsung 4.2, there is only a leak at the moment in the general section's leak thread.
Can we please clarify something?
Stock means what the phone has as stock, i.e, out-of-the-box. Stock to the S3 is Samsung Touchwiz. AOSP would be Vanilla. It is stock on some phones, but not this one.
I think we need to make this distinction before we go on.
So what is it exactly that you want?
If it's as close to vanilla as you can get, Slimbean may be a good bet. It's unlikely you'll get anything without any changes.
chrismast said:
If you are talking about stock 4.2 check the development section, a few 4.2.2 roms out there as for instance SlimBean or Liquid, with other words you cannot get 4.2 direct from Google.
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Yes, but which one to choose? Could you give the link for step-by-step instruction?
galaktiker said:
Yes, but which one to choose? Could you give the link for step-by-step instruction?
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hence I guess you mean AOSP, good that you confirmed.
the process of flashing is the same as with other roms and described e.g. in the SlimBean thread (only special thing is to flash the gapps package).
which one to choose is up to you, we don't know what you like . just try them and see for yourself. in my experience, Slim Bean & Liquid do not differ that much anyway.
chrismast said:
which one to choose is up to you, we don't know what you like . just try them and see for yourself. in my experience, Slim Bean & Liquid do not differ that much anyway.
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Slimbean doesn't look like original Android 4.2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1868691; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108013
Do you know ROMs that contains original Android 4.2 without any modifications? All of these ROMs look modified. What does 'aftermarket' means? What is the meaning for end user of Android Open Source Project?
P. S. Thank you for your patience! In fact I know nothing about custom ROMs, so I have a lot questions.
galaktiker said:
Slimbean doesn't look like original Android 4.2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1868691; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108013
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If by "look" you mean aesthetically, it looks identical to Vanilla 4.2 (from google, eg what Nexus phones have)
galaktiker said:
Do you know ROMs that contains original Android 4.2 without any modifications? All of these ROMs look modified.
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Almost all AOSP roms are modified. You will not find one that has 0% modification. The ones listed on this thread are the ones with the least modifications
galaktiker said:
What does 'aftermarket' means?
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In what context? Aftermarket generally means modified. Something not stock. Not how it was when it was sold.
galaktiker said:
What is the meaning for end user of Android Open Source Project?
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AOSP is google's android open source project. Android is open source. When they create a new Android version (4.2.2) that is vanilla (like Nexus), they release the source code so developers (Hobbiests at XDA) or OEM's (Like Samsung and HTC) can compile the source code into a ROM for a device.
AOSP ROMs released by XDA developers etc, are all close in look at feel to Google's android releases on the Nexus devices.
OEM ROMs usually heavily modify this code to make it unique to them, therefore becoems a selling point for their brand
Now it's clearer. But which AOSP ROM to choose? Do they have rating? Which is more stable, bugfree and relaible? Do they have OTA update without necessity to wipe data (like Samsung stock one)?
For close to vanilla, try the recommendations given in this thread. We can't tell you which is "best" as its against forum rules. Everyone is different.
Some have OTA. Most don't. If you're going from rom x version 1 to rom x version 2, you shouldn't need to wipe.
If you're going from rom x to rom y, you will need to wipe
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rootSU said:
Some have OTA. Most don't.
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Which ones have OTA? If the ROM does not have OTA, how to update the firmware? Via ODIN, but without wiping data after update?
None of the simple ones have OTA.
OTA is predominantly a stock thing.
With custom roms (vanilla or stock) you download the rom, put it on sd card and flash via recovery.
Please read the roll up sticky thread in general
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Hi everybody.
As stock ICS has better performance than stock JB, to update to CyanogenMod from stock 4.0 is better than do it from stock 4.1?
Excuse me if this question is answered in the forum, I don't find it.
Regards.
Those are two different subjects.. There's no relation between a stock rom's performance, and the speed of 'better way' ro flash a custom rom. However, there are things to think about when coming from stock 4.0.4., but I assume you've read the guides and seen them (brickbug etc.). Good luck.
Thanks for your answer.
For your reply, I understand to install stock 4.1 and then install CyanogenMod is less problematic than install it from stock 4.0, ¿right?
I don't have the phone yet.
I will read more & more before install CyanogenMod in this device (I readed about installing problems with this cellphone at CyanogenMod's Wiki).
Thank you again.
usrXD said:
Thanks for your answer.
For your reply, I understand to install stock 4.1 and then install CyanogenMod is less problematic than install it from stock 4.0, ¿right?
I don't have the phone yet.
I will read more & more before install CyanogenMod in this device (I readed about installing problems with this cellphone at CyanogenMod's Wiki).
Thank you again.
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You just have to search for information about the brickbug that can appear in 4.0.4. Read about it and avoid it, than it is 'safe' to flash any custom rom (it always contains a risk of course).
May I ask you why you would want to flash CM immediatly? Stock JB works very good on the SII.
Donnie Sins said:
You just have to search for information about the brickbug that can appear in 4.0.4. Read about it and avoid it, than it is 'safe' to flash any custom rom (it always contains a risk of course).
May I ask you why you would want to flash CM immediatly? Stock JB works very good on the SII.
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While maybe it's very good for you, it isn't good for me. Stock ICS was acceptable for me, but Jelly Bean sucks.
Thanks for your interest.
usrXD said:
While maybe it's very good for you, it isn't good for me. Stock ICS was acceptable for me, but Jelly Bean sucks.
Thanks for your interest.
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Last time I ask, but how come? You've said you didn't have the phone yet
Donnie Sins said:
Last time I ask, but how come? You've said you didn't have the phone yet
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Maybe I used a S2 but not my S2.