I am really curious about this.Maybe some can help me understand this in somewhat laymen terms. I and somewhat knowledgeable of the Android system. I have a Verizon Fascinate. I have installed the wrong Rom package on it and it was bricked to such a degree that I needed to find the basic Stock package DI01 and flash back to Stock,but it doesn't break the phone like the Note i717. I also have an Xoom. I have also installed something that wasn't correct and it was stuck on the Motorola screen f( I'm guessing bricked ) and again at that point I needed to find the Stock package to flash but the Note was useless after the brick.
I hope someone can help me with this one. I really feel terrible about bricking my Note i717 having to send it to be JTAGged.
What is your question ??
you need JTAG info ??
My question is why is the Note easily bricked and useless after that but the others that I have mentioned above and perhaps other phones, are not so useless after brick.
My son has a Note ii. He bricked his but was able to regain a flash by booting in DL or Recovery mode. I would like to know why is that so. Maybe others out there also would like to know.
That is my query.
Samsung products break when you flash the wrong rom. Its news to me that other devices survive that error.
But for all phones, brick is brick, and that is from incorrect roms. Everything else isn't brick.
kjacw said:
I am really curious about this.Maybe some can help me understand this in somewhat laymen terms. I and somewhat knowledgeable of the Android system. I have a Verizon Fascinate. I have installed the wrong Rom package on it and it was bricked to such a degree that I needed to find the basic Stock package DI01 and flash back to Stock,but it doesn't break the phone like the Note i717. I also have an Xoom. I have also installed something that wasn't correct and it was stuck on the Motorola screen f( I'm guessing bricked ) and again at that point I needed to find the Stock package to flash but the Note was useless after the brick.
I hope someone can help me with this one. I really feel terrible about bricking my Note i717 having to send it to be JTAGged.
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My question is why is the Note easily bricked and useless after that but the others that I have mentioned above and perhaps other phones, are not so useless after brick.
My son has a Note ii. He bricked his but was able to regain a flash by booting in DL or Recovery mode. I would like to know why is that so. Maybe others out there also would like to know.
That is my query.
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Given the fact that you have bricked more than one device, you might want to learn some more about your devices before you keep flashing things onto them...
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Given the fact that you have bricked more than one device, you might want to learn some more about your devices before you keep flashing things onto them...
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Couldn't agree more. I would have kept that information to myself.
I don't see much point of this. It's like asking why did my screen break so easily when I hit it with a hammer?
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Couldn't agree more. I would have kept that information to myself.
I don't see much point of this. It's like asking why did my screen break so easily when I hit it with a hammer?
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Well I didn't create the thread to be picked apart, I was just curious as to why it was so easy to brick my Note and it be useless as opposed to some kinda of software imposed to help Noters. I am not writing here to be picked apart and I really do not appreciate this kind of action. I am just trying to get information. This is a Question and Answer forum and I was asking a question maybe a stupid question albeit a question to know why it was so easy to brick the Note and render it useless where as other cell phones when flashed with the wrong information can still be put in the DL Mode and flashed Stock
OK... I'll give you an answer. First, what you've experienced with your other devices is not considered as " bricking" them, maybe a " soft brick" but not a real true brick. This term (brick) is being used way too often and improperly. When you flash something like a simple mod incorrectly and it causes bootloops, freezing on boot screen, etc, this is not a brick. If you flash something major like a rom that is not for your device and completely shuts down your phone with no life what so ever, this is a brick. This phone is not any easier to brick than any other phone. Companies can only do so much to keep their users from screwing up their devices. Maybe my previous post was a bit harsh.... But considering the nature of this thread and your op, it's a little hard not to point out the obvious. If you researched properly as directed in just about every thread in xda, you wouldn't be asking the question you're asking because you would not have a bricked phone right now.
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I agree with the post above mine ...
Damaging this device is virtually impossible given the JTAG option.
Many other devices do not share that luxury.
The note would then be considered much harder to brick, or at least unbrick after major firmware damage has occured.
And yes, please familiarized yourself with the terms, and read every action 5 times over before Modding a $700.00 device .IMHO ...g
Well my error was not that I didn't read and research. I think my error was that I was trying to flash the "LiquidSmooth" Rom on my note and I was following the instructions that was given specifically for my phone Note i717 and in the instructions there was a dl link for that rom, which I did but it was not from this forum. I think that was my error not as a result of being lazy and wanting something for nothing.
Thanks for the info. I was a bit curious about bricking.
Well, that error has been repeated by several people here recently. The version you downloaded and installed was most likely for the galaxy s3. The one you should have downloaded says "quincy" in the file name.
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Thanks for your help MoeJoe277 now I will remember that.
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Battery was fully charged when i did the process, all processes went thru fine then the phone just shut off and i can't turn back on, any ideas? appreciate the help
Can you get into recovery?
nope, no response from phone
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nope, no response from phone
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Did you do a full wipe of data and cache before flashing the rom?
Yes i did, but i found out what happened, the villain rom is not compatible with the tmobile version of the galaxy s2, don't know what to do now
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Yes i did, but i found out what happened, the villain rom is not compatible with the tmobile version of the galaxy s2, don't know what to do now
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You have to carry it in under warranty (you know the drill ).
wait, WHAT?
some obscure thread is 'mentioning' that VillainRom is not compatible with Tmobile's GS2, oh and btw it bricked my phone and there's no blatant warning or any other mention of this on VillainRom's thread and download in here?
i bricked mine three days ago and up until NOW have been thinking it was something i did wrong. just happened across this thread as i was JUST ABOUT to run the thing again on my new GS2.
i can't believe the mods in XDAD are letting this go. damn. i'm glad i was looking around for some suggestions which led to this little comment.
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Well considering that VR is in the Europe s2 section then user error is at fault if you have a T-Mobile or at&t they are different and the user should at least take the time to look at the forums present before flashing ROMs hence there is no need for Pulser or any other chef to note that its not compatible with XY&Z....
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Well considering that VR is in the Europe s2 section then user error is at fault if you have a T-Mobile or at&t they are different and the user should at least take the time to look at the forums present before flashing ROMs hence there is no need for Pulser or any other chef to note that its not compatible with XY&Z....
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except the many end up there from Google and don't even know that they're in the "Europe S2" section. i had no idea til just now.
simply saying some bolder warning might save a few people a very expensive phone. i found a couple others who'd made the same mistake - there are lots of NOOBS in the way of ROMS like myself who don't even know. your forum is HUGE, and there are MANY google results linking you. that's a LOT of NOOBS ...
a little warning would have saved our asses. T-Mobile saved mine, tho, so it's all ok.
There is a completely seperate forum for the Tmobile SGSII. When the SGSII, and probably that ROM came out there were no variations, just the European version. It is not up to a dev to save your phone, it is up to you to put in the time and research before deciding to mess with it.
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except the many end up there from Google and don't even know that they're in the "Europe S2" section. i had no idea til just now.
simply saying some bolder warning might save a few people a very expensive phone. i found a couple others who'd made the same mistake - there are lots of NOOBS in the way of ROMS like myself who don't even know. your forum is HUGE, and there are MANY google results linking you. that's a LOT of NOOBS ...
a little warning would have saved our asses. T-Mobile saved mine, tho, so it's all ok.
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It is not our place to do your homework for you. This is what happens when people dont research before rewriting the OS on their phone. People are so fast to want to flash a custom rom before they even know what it is doing that this happens. Flashing a custom rom is not for everyone. If you cant put at least 20 hours into just reading up before you do it maybe you should rethink flashing a custom rom. Roms are not for the average person as they dont have the time to keep it up. I am all for custom roms but have come to understand that the "average" person has no business messing with the OS on their Phone
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except the many end up there from Google and don't even know that they're in the "Europe S2" section. i had no idea til just now.
simply saying some bolder warning might save a few people a very expensive phone. i found a couple others who'd made the same mistake - there are lots of NOOBS in the way of ROMS like myself who don't even know. your forum is HUGE, and there are MANY google results linking you. that's a LOT of NOOBS ...
a little warning would have saved our asses. T-Mobile saved mine, tho, so it's all ok.
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When you enter the world of pimping phones then the legwork to understand your device is down to user...
Coming from the days where not every kid with a gat "comedy value" had a smartphone I remember when the info was far less and smaller user base. "Yet have never flashed a wrong ROM or bricked a device"
If a user is prepared to flash there expensive smartphone without searching reading then its there fault.
After all there are disclaimers on pretty much all threads and XDA as general so as to stop anyone taking flak for user error.
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Odin flash a stock rom and your good to go
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When you enter the world of pimping phones then the legwork to understand your device is down to user...
Coming from the days where not every kid with a gat "comedy value" had a smartphone I remember when the info was far less and smaller user base. "Yet have never flashed a wrong ROM or bricked a device"
If a user is prepared to flash there expensive smartphone without searching reading then its there fault.
After all there are disclaimers on pretty much all threads and XDA as general so as to stop anyone taking flak for user error.
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Hey man hit up my email we need to chat. Yeah I swap it up. Now so I stay on topic as well lol. Please do your homework. We are not coming down on you to be mean. Stylez is right in what he says. when I started here there was like 2 roms for the device and the steps were far more complex. Stylez I am sure remembers lol I blew his pm up lol while doing my research with questions till I knew what I was doing. There was no flashing stock and returning the phone under warrenty which mind you breaks you warrenty. So please for the love of all things tech. Take the time and do the research.
So... I rooted My Att Galaxy SII. But... this jerk who made the video forgot to say NOT to use it if you have the latest version. (Which is just dumb)
So my wifi is broke, can't be turned on for more than a few seconds.
Crap.
Now what do I do? Factory resetting is out of the question as I've spent far too many hours customizing this bad boy to loose it all because some fool didn't think about warning anyone. :/
Oh great xda dudes. Lend me your brains
Locklear308 said:
So... I rooted My Att Galaxy SII. But... this jerk who made the video forgot to say NOT to use it if you have the latest version. (Which is just dumb)
So my wifi is broke, can't be turned on for more than a few seconds.
Crap.
Now what do I do? Factory resetting is out of the question as I've spent far too many hours customizing this bad boy to loose it all because some fool didn't think about warning anyone. :/
Oh great xda dudes. Lend me your brains
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Wrong forum for ATT Galaxy S2.
#1, you're in the wrong galaxy s2 forum. There's one for the the skyrocket and one for the hspa version. If you flash a kernel from the correct version I believe you should be OK. No guarantees though
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#1, you're in the wrong galaxy s2 forum. There's one for the the skyrocket and one for the hspa version. If you flash a kernel from the correct version I believe you should be OK. No guarantees though
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Whoops, Yeah just noticed that. Sorry guys XD
So...just flash the normal kernel the same way I did the rooted one? Ugh, Backing up just in case. Man this is annoying. I wish he would of put a warning :/
Flashed to Stock Kernal, Wifi is still broke. ****. So is my phone useless now? :[
Um maybe do some more research before you root. Its not "this guys" fault you phones useless, you have no one to blame but yourself
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If a Rooting Process will cause issues on a specific version. THAT needs to be stated in the information. Even if I was an expert I would not of know because it said nothing referring to versions or cautions.
That's like saying it's the users fault if he tried a custom rom damaging said device, because the creator of the rom didn't post information that he knew.
Tis all I am saying
FWIW all the modifications are done at user's discretion so it's never anyone's fault but yourself unless you get someone else to do it.
On topic though, try flashing a full firmware from ODIN which includes the modem, pda and csc files. Don't forget though that you should get this file from the right forum, or else you'll be stuck with a non working phone period.
Also, really, a valid question is, where did you get the rooting method you were trying to use? After all, you DID post this very post asking for help with your SGH-I777 in the i9100 forums. So if you got the method from a forum meant for a device that isn't yours, can you really legitimately blame the poster, just because you used it on YOUR device? I don't think that's fair.
EDIT: or do you have a Skyrocket, which is an SGH-I727?
I'm saying, if I myself, was posting information or a Rom/Kernel, if I know it doesn't work with a specific version of a device, and that users should NOT use it. It is my responsibility to tell them first as a warning, that's all I am saying.
And what I'm saying, is if you got the method from a forum meant for i9100 phones, and NOT for ATT Galaxy S2 (which is the SGH-I777), how is that the other guy's fault that you used something not meant for your phone, just because you happened to find the information? C'mon, man. Take some responsibility.
Couldn't you just get titanium backup then back up everything? Then unroot to 2.3.4 the root your phone so wifi works then restore with titanium backup. I did something very similar to this to fix my phone and I've had a couple problems restoring but that's probably just cause I am a newb. Overall it worked pretty good though.
Something is wrong at the kernel level. Titanium backup won't help.
Um, no.
Your phone = your responsibility. Bottom line. Nothing else is relevant.
Hi Everyone,
I just got my Galaxy S2 back, model number GT-19100M. I had sent it in to get it unlocked, the sim and the carrier unlock. I assume that this would be rooted to have accomplished this?
They had an issue unlocking the carrier and had to reflash the phone to gingerbread before they were able to unlock the carrier. So I got it baack and the version is 4.0.3 now.
So I did some googling about how to tell if it was rooted. Now, from my understanding that to flash the phone with a rom it would have to be rooted. So I came across about using Root Checker, So i installed it and it said it wasnt rooted, I then installed ConnectBot and the thread (not from here) said that if a prompt came up with a # then it meant it was rooted, and if it came up with a $ at the prompt then it wasnt rooted. Low and behold it showed a $.
So all in all how do I tell if it was rooted? It cost me 50$ and well over a week and a half to get it back. So were the two applications correct and if not what is the right way to tell if it was rooted or is there something I should notice on the phone?
Thanks for any and all help on this situation.
BlindSession said:
Hi Everyone,
I just got my Galaxy S2 back, model number GT-19100M. I had sent it in to get it unlocked, the sim and the carrier unlock. I assume that this would be rooted to have accomplished this?
They had an issue unlocking the carrier and had to reflash the phone to gingerbread before they were able to unlock the carrier. So I got it baack and the version is 4.0.3 now.
So I did some googling about how to tell if it was rooted. Now, from my understanding that to flash the phone with a rom it would have to be rooted. So I came across about using Root Checker, So i installed it and it said it wasnt rooted, I then installed ConnectBot and the thread (not from here) said that if a prompt came up with a # then it meant it was rooted, and if it came up with a $ at the prompt then it wasnt rooted. Low and behold it showed a $.
So all in all how do I tell if it was rooted? It cost me 50$ and well over a week and a half to get it back. So were the two applications correct and if not what is the right way to tell if it was rooted or is there something I should notice on the phone?
Thanks for any and all help on this situation.
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1) u can check ur kernel and see.
2) also u can check for an app SuperSU or Superuser's presence in app drawer, if present ur phone is rooted else no.
3) u can install some apps like root explorer/browser etc and see, since they wrk only with root prievilage
Sun90 said:
1) u can check ur kernel and see.
2) also u can check for an app SuperSU or Superuser's presence in app drawer, if present ur phone is rooted else no.
3) u can install some apps like root explorer/browser etc and see, since they wrk only with root prievilage
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Hi thanks for the reply,
I downloaded and ran SuperSu and got this pop up "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!". So then I downloaded Root Browser Lite, i opened it up and got a list of folders. So now I'm confused, I have SuperSU saying that there is a problem, and with Root Browser Lite it runs and gives me a list of folders.
My kernel version is as follows: 3.0.15-I9100MUGLD3-CL377577 [email protected] #3
From my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong, but to do both unlocks (sim and carrier) that it needs to be rooted?
Before I handed the phone over to the computer store to unlock it, I had asked if it would be rooted and they said yes, but i didnt copy all the stuff in the about phone, but I was supplied with my unlock code to use when i pop a different sim in it.
Also, when I looked at the messages when i got it back that there was a text from rogers and the carrier that i was using was Virgin, so it looks as though it was properly unlocked.
I dont have anyone near me at the moment with a different carrier sim card (My girlfriend uses Telus, I suppose I could pop hers in but she might throw a fit and think that I could screw her iphone up lol)
So what would be my next plan of action?
Thanks for your reply
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Hi thanks for the reply,
I downloaded and ran SuperSu and got this pop up "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!". So then I downloaded Root Browser Lite, i opened it up and got a list of folders. So now I'm confused, I have SuperSU saying that there is a problem, and with Root Browser Lite it runs and gives me a list of folders.
My kernel version is as follows: 3.0.15-I9100MUGLD3-CL377577 [email protected] #3
From my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong, but to do both unlocks (sim and carrier) that it needs to be rooted?
Before I handed the phone over to the computer store to unlock it, I had asked if it would be rooted and they said yes, but i didnt copy all the stuff in the about phone, but I was supplied with my unlock code to use when i pop a different sim in it.
Also, when I looked at the messages when i got it back that there was a text from rogers and the carrier that i was using was Virgin, so it looks as though it was properly unlocked.
I dont have anyone near me at the moment with a different carrier sim card (My girlfriend uses Telus, I suppose I could pop hers in but she might throw a fit and think that I could screw her iphone up lol)
So what would be my next plan of action?
Thanks for your reply
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well by seeing ur kernel it seems that its a stock kernel hence ur phone is not rooted.
may be after unlocking ur phone they might have flashed the stock kernel back to unroot ur phone i suppose
Sun90 said:
well by seeing ur kernel it seems that its a stock kernel hence ur phone is not rooted.
may be after unlocking ur phone they might have flashed the stock kernel back to unroot ur phone i suppose
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After thinking for a moment, this does look like the kernel that was previously on it, I had played around with it before hand and I remember some things and the kernel looks familiar..
Well I believe you are correct that they reflashed it with the stock rom...Why they would do that is beyond me lol.
So I guess I am going to start rooting this on my own, would you please direct me to rooting this model? I know I can search this forum but I have done that before and noticed different ways of doing it. I just want to make sure that i do this properly using the proper thread and if i can do this properly then Im going to start on the path to rooting my S3 , So i guess my s2 is my practice
I do appreciate your replies and help with my situation
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After thinking for a moment, this does look like the kernel that was previously on it, I had played around with it before hand and I remember some things and the kernel looks familiar..
Well I believe you are correct that they reflashed it with the stock rom...Why they would do that is beyond me lol.
So I guess I am going to start rooting this on my own, would you please direct me to rooting this model? I know I can search this forum but I have done that before and noticed different ways of doing it. I just want to make sure that i do this properly using the proper thread and if i can do this properly then Im going to start on the path to rooting my S3 , So i guess my s2 is my practice
I do appreciate your replies and help with my situation
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the link below would be the simple on to start with rooting for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
read the OP completely to understand the procedure and then proceed
good luck
Sun90 said:
the link below would be the simple on to start with rooting for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
read the OP completely to understand the procedure and then proceed
good luck
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Thanks alot for your help I'll let you know how it goes I will be calling the computer store tomorrow that i used to question them on why they would do that after saying that it would be rooted lol
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Thanks alot for your help I'll let you know how it goes I will be calling the computer store tomorrow that i used to question them on why they would do that after saying that it would be rooted lol
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Wow this looks confusing on where do I start lol
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Wow this looks confusing on where do I start lol
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nothing is confusing as long as u read and understand carefully what has been specified in those rooting method threads.
but still i would suggest u simply keep out of this rooting thing, if ur not sure about the same and unable to understand things about rooting properly
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nothing is confusing as long as u read and understand carefully what has been specified in those rooting method threads.
but still i would suggest u simply keep out of this rooting thing, if ur not sure about the same and unable to understand things about rooting properly
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I have read the rooting methods, and again reading it slower, I am not sure about this busybox thing, i think where i am getting confused because it doesnt seem to pop out to me saying if its ok to uninstall busybox and if i did would it still be rooted. I really dont some program running in the background to keep it rooted.
I have been writing software for over 5 years and i figured that this would be a walk in the park. Sit me infront of visual studio and i am a wiz with c#/Asp and sql, but with this i feel like complete noob and i am in actuality. Which is irritating me.
The reason behind having the desire to root this phone is because it should have been done when i got it unlocked 2) because with a rooted phone i have more options and control over this phone 3) because i dont know how and for being able to program that i should be able to do this. It seems like a different ball game and in all honesty knowledge is power and what i dont know how so it is a need to know how to do it. regardless if i wreck the phone, trial by fire i suppose. I cant learn if i dont attempt it and make the mistakes. When you learn how to do something and have come across making mistakes you tend to keep the knowledge more and appreciate what is learned.
Sorry, I got on my soap box on trying to justify doing this lol. But I do appreciate what you suggest. But Im going to try it and hopefully bring me out of my noob status lol.
i will keep you posted
Its not rocket science and what a load of rubbish about doing things wrong and wrecking your phone in order to learn.
What you do is read about other clowns wrecking their phones and dont do what they done-so you learn without any risk.
Just get rooted for now so you can use them fancy apps to get more control over you phone.Read about brickbug and look at some of the rom threads and also learn about cwm and odin.
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Its not rocket science and what a load of rubbish about doing things wrong and wrecking your phone in order to learn.
What you do is read about other clowns wrecking their phones and dont do what they done-so you learn without any risk.
Just get rooted for now so you can use them fancy apps to get more control over you phone.Read about brickbug and look at some of the rom threads and also learn about cwm and odin.
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Forgive me for using the wrong words, I did not say to do things wrong and wreaking my phone. I should have phrased that differently, IF i do it wrong and wreck it somehow then it is a lessoned learned.I'm in no way out to wreck my phone, thats ridiculous. I have made many mistakes during programming that I have learned and remembered what not to do, some people learn the hard way to retain what they did wrong and not to repeat it. Not everyone learns the same way.
I completely understand about reading how others wreck their phone so i can learn without risk, and to read up on odin and brickbug, which is blatantly obvious.
As for fancy apps, you are kidding right? you think i want to root my phone to use fancy apps? I think not. i'm not some kid that likes shiney new things and to be the one to say "look what i got". That comment was utter disrespect. Maybe instead of trying to make me look like a dumbass you could be a little more helpful and not be so blantantly obvious on what i should do, which i already have started doing until i had to reply this.
Is this how you treat everyone that is starting to learn something new? You make obvious statements, mock by saying what isnt rocket science? I highly doubt that when you started doing this that you werent some dumbass in the beginning.
I appreciate the person who was replying to my questions and pointing me in the right direction, he was helpful. You were just being a ****. you know on forums dealing with c#/asp.net I dont act like you do to questions or statements that i feel are silly, especially to people just starting out. You must have been treated the way you treated me when you first started out, how many times did you feel like a dumbass from people that knew what they were talking about? probably still to this day in one way or another you are treated like an idiot. So instead of acting the way you were and still are treated, try acting decent and helpful and not counter-active.
I hope that there isn't more people acting like you did towards me to other people, if so then this isnt a place to learn.
Thanks for the praise.....
I ask myself every day....is rooting really that difficult?.Is this xda or facebook?.Whats with "life stories" included in posts?.Have all them guys that created stickies/guides wasted their time cos noobs/donks like you dont read them?.
And guys like Sun90 are helpful and intelligent....theyve helped me out before.
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Forgive me for using the wrong words, I did not say to do things wrong and wreaking my phone. I should have phrased that differently, IF i do it wrong and wreck it somehow then it is a lessoned learned.I'm in no way out to wreck my phone, thats ridiculous. I have made many mistakes during programming that I have learned and remembered what not to do, some people learn the hard way to retain what they did wrong and not to repeat it. Not everyone learns the same way.
I completely understand about reading how others wreck their phone so i can learn without risk, and to read up on odin and brickbug, which is blatantly obvious.
As for fancy apps, you are kidding right? you think i want to root my phone to use fancy apps? I think not. i'm not some kid that likes shiney new things and to be the one to say "look what i got". That comment was utter disrespect. Maybe instead of trying to make me look like a dumbass you could be a little more helpful and not be so blantantly obvious on what i should do, which i already have started doing until i had to reply this.
Is this how you treat everyone that is starting to learn something new? You make obvious statements, mock by saying what isnt rocket science? I highly doubt that when you started doing this that you werent some dumbass in the beginning.
I appreciate the person who was replying to my questions and pointing me in the right direction, he was helpful. You were just being a ****. you know on forums dealing with c#/asp.net I dont act like you do to questions or statements that i feel are silly, especially to people just starting out. You must have been treated the way you treated me when you first started out, how many times did you feel like a dumbass from people that knew what they were talking about? probably still to this day in one way or another you are treated like an idiot. So instead of acting the way you were and still are treated, try acting decent and helpful and not counter-active.
I hope that there isn't more people acting like you did towards me to other people, if so then this isnt a place to learn.
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hey buddy chill for now , in XDA u will face all sort of people, which is quite common ma8.
as for as ur 'Busybox' thing is concern, this is what it means.
BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self-dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
it will provide u all necessary things to have access to root of ur phone, while SuperSU or Superuser grants necessary permissions to all those apps which need 'Root Access' to perform efficiently.
if u remove busybox then u will loose root access to ur phone for sure.
hope the above things ar clear for u for now
Sun90 said:
hey buddy chill for now , in XDA u will face all sort of people, which is quite common ma8.
as for as ur 'Busybox' thing is concern, this is what it means.
BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self-dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
it will provide u all necessary things to have access to root of ur phone, while SuperSU or Superuser grants necessary permissions to all those apps which need 'Root Access' to perform efficiently.
if u remove busybox then u will loose root access to ur phone for sure.
hope the above things ar clear for u for now
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Hi Sun90,
You are absolutely right when it comes to types of people that I wil come across in this forum or any other forum for that matter, I just didnt expect someone to start flaming right off the bat.
Thank you for the explaination on 'BusyBox', I understand what you are saying. My concern was that I didnt want to have to rely on something that had to be constantly running on my phone to ensure that it stays rooted. I gather from what you said about buysbox that its just tools, and not something that constantly runs. The swiss army metaphor, makes sense.
I have searched through these forums and somethings that may be obvious and cut and dry to people that have done this, isnt always the case to everyone else. I get left with many questions after reading threads. I have read many threads here and throughout online on rooting. Some guides are easy, they tell you how but never the 'why'.
I have heard alot about odin, and I have read things where i plug my phone in and run a 'runme.bat' that does it all but explain why.
Today I'm going to be reading deeper on Odin and Clockworkmod and trying to find the correct secure and unsecure kernel. I hope to run across more people like you that actually are here to help and not wanting to show how much they know by being condescending to make themselves feel better about themselves.
In the end, for me, its not enough to do it but to know the whys behind it. Thank you for your patience and the help.
BlindSession said:
Hi Sun90,
You are absolutely right when it comes to types of people that I wil come across in this forum or any other forum for that matter, I just didnt expect someone to start flaming right off the bat.
Thank you for the explaination on 'BusyBox', I understand what you are saying. My concern was that I didnt want to have to rely on something that had to be constantly running on my phone to ensure that it stays rooted. I gather from what you said about buysbox that its just tools, and not something that constantly runs. The swiss army metaphor, makes sense.
I have searched through these forums and somethings that may be obvious and cut and dry to people that have done this, isnt always the case to everyone else. I get left with many questions after reading threads. I have read many threads here and throughout online on rooting. Some guides are easy, they tell you how but never the 'why'.
I have heard alot about odin, and I have read things where i plug my phone in and run a 'runme.bat' that does it all but explain why.
Today I'm going to be reading deeper on Odin and Clockworkmod and trying to find the correct secure and unsecure kernel. I hope to run across more people like you that actually are here to help and not wanting to show how much they know by being condescending to make themselves feel better about themselves.
In the end, for me, its not enough to do it but to know the whys behind it. Thank you for your patience and the help.
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:laugh: u should not misundertand people's comments here in the first place ma8, but do take it positively, since everybody in XDA is willing to Help one another for sure, But some times the helping way which really Confuses the matter for sure
since i assume ur a man who is more hungry for indepth knowledge of things u come accross,which is really good in its own way, I wish u success for ur journey seeking the same here on XDA
Good Luck:good:
Sun90 said:
:laugh: u should not misundertand people's comments here in the first place ma8, but do take it positively, since everybody in XDA is willing to Help one another for sure, But some times the helping way which really Confuses the matter for sure
since i assume ur a man who is more hungry for indepth knowledge of things u come accross,which is really good in its own way, I wish u success for ur journey seeking the same here on XDA
Good Luck:good:
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Well I just downloaded CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip, and Odin3-ver3.5 and am about to follow Chainfire's thread with its step by step guide, i found his guide to be pretty insightful. Another thing I got confused on was the difference between I1900, I1900M and I found out that the only difference between the 2 was nothing. One question though, after i root the phone and if i ever do a factory reset on it does it stay rooted or do I have to do the process over, likewise with busy box.
I did copy down what version my phone is running if something goes wrong...
I'll post back soon with either success or failure.
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Well I just downloaded CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip, and Odin3-ver3.5 and am about to follow Chainfire's thread with its step by step guide, i found his guide to be pretty insightful. Another thing I got confused on was the difference between I1900, I1900M and I found out that the only difference between the 2 was nothing. One question though, after i root the phone and if i ever do a factory reset on it does it stay rooted or do I have to do the process over, likewise with busy box.
I did copy down what version my phone is running if something goes wrong...
I'll post back soon with either success or failure.
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You won't lose root if you factory reset. Only way to unroot is to flash stock firmware again.
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Thanks Spiralzz
So right now i followed the instructions, i have odin running. I have the phone itself in usb debugging... but it looks like odin froze up..its at SetupConnection and hasnt continued. Could i be wrong and it takes time? Its been in this state for about 5 minutes now.
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Ok well, i wasnt successful. Odin came back with a fail. It came back 3 times failing.
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i have been using the droid x2 for about two years. it has a locked bootloader, and very limited abilities as far as flashing roms goes. kernels will be a new thing to me. i have noticed that in most rom install instructions, there are no specifications on what version to be on. lol not something i am used to.
could someone point me in the right direction for some reading material on the subject? this phone specifically? i understand a fair amount about being rooted and performing various things within recovery and android in general. i just want to make sure that before i go messing around with my s3, i know exactly what im doing. thanks in advance.
also, i have read a decent amount already, and it seems like this phone is fairly easy to brick,? also not something i am used to. the droid x2 with its locked bootloader was next to impossible to brick.
cant wait to join the ranks.! thanks again.
read as many threads in General as you can
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
i have been using the droid x2 for about two years. it has a locked bootloader, and very limited abilities as far as flashing roms goes. kernels will be a new thing to me. i have noticed that in most rom install instructions, there are no specifications on what version to be on. lol not something i am used to.
could someone point me in the right direction for some reading material on the subject? this phone specifically? i understand a fair amount about being rooted and performing various things within recovery and android in general. i just want to make sure that before i go messing around with my s3, i know exactly what im doing. thanks in advance.
also, i have read a decent amount already, and it seems like this phone is fairly easy to brick,? also not something i am used to. the droid x2 with its locked bootloader was next to impossible to brick.
cant wait to join the ranks.! thanks again.
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Good choice, mate!
Which S3 is it? I see you're in the USofA. There are several variants of S3 in the world. American/Canadian S3's are the Snapdragon variant, not the International variety, which is what this forum is for. If it is not the GT-I9300, anything you flash from here will definitely brick your phone.
Refer this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756338
We can only guide you further once this question is answered. Good luck!
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Good choice, mate!
Which S3 is it? I see you're in the USofA. There are several variants of S3 in the world. American/Canadian S3's are the Snapdragon variant, not the International variety, which is what this forum is for. If it is not the GT-I9300, anything you flash from here will definitely brick your phone.
Refer this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756338
We can only guide you further once this question is answered. Good luck!
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thank you sir. ! i guess i would be getting the non international version. :highfive:
international version has many developers than the other variants. once you start flashing custom roms or kernels or mods, there is no guarantee that your phone will not brick. flashing without damage to the phone depends on how you do that. goodluck.
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SRIRAM
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Yeah Make sure you're in the right forum for your phone. Follow that chart for your carrier.
Also if you happen to be getting T-Mobile,there is a new variant that has the LTE radio T999L which is a hardware difference and not a simple software upgrade. So if you did happen to get T-Mobile, hopefully you have the LTE variant.
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Hello, I'm looking for a place to download a stock firmware for the SM-N920A. Preferably Android 5.1.1. I'm going to attempt to root my device and if I mess it up I'd like to be able to restore it. Also I know that flashing stuff may permanently void my warranty and screw up Samsung pay but will this brick my device forever? I'm basically asking if a stock firmware would be useful or not. I've heard some places that KNOX still won't allow the phone to boot after an odin restore to stock. Thanks for the help.
Did you try using a web search engine? There's one that's pretty good called Google.com and if you don't like being tracked, duckduckgo.com
Not trying to be a ****, but the reason you have no answer yet is likely because all this information is already in multiple locations not only on XDA but many other forums.
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While he does have a point, he didn't really address some of your main issues.
1) You can only root if you are on 5.1.1.
2) This is a tethered root, meaning that you will need a PC to restart your phone if you ever need to reboot or the battery dies.
3) If you follow the instructions, then you won't hard brick your phone. You might soft brick it, but reloading the appropriate firmware with Odin will fix it.
That being said, as someone that has rooted 100s of phones for myself and others as a hobby and a job, I don't recommend this. A tethered root for someone that is not familiar with how to get out of potential trouble or understanding what a tethered root means, is a recipe for disaster.
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Did you try using a web search engine? There's one that's pretty good called Google.com and if you don't like being tracked, duckduckgo.com
Not trying to be a ****, but the reason you have no answer yet is likely because all this information is already in multiple locations not only on XDA but many other forums.
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Did you try and rope and a tree? It might help with rude ass people such as yourself. You're a ****ing ****. The reason he does not have an answer yet is because most people have a life and don't sit on these forums and troll such as you... To answer your question, you can find the stock firmware right here on the general note 5 forums right on the front page, I would link you but it wont let me.