Cyanogenmod - AT&T LG Optimus G

I can't wait till cm10.1
But hell I'd be happy if someone got cm9 working I just want some aosp love
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I normally don't say this, but do we really need another thread like this?
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Probably not but I wanted to plant the idea of ics the the minds of the devs since we already have a kernel and source for ics but I guess that any over your little head now didn't it.
So much for subtlety
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dvdbabcock said:
Probably not but I wanted to plant the idea of ics the the minds of the devs since we already have a kernel and source for ics but I guess that any over your little head now didn't it.
So much for subtlety
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If that's what you wanted, there's probably a better way than creating a thread that asks the same question that has been asked in other threads. Then being a D-bag when someone mentions that fact isn't doing yourself any favors either.

REDFOCZ said:
I normally don't say this, but do we really need another thread like this?
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Nastybutler said:
If that's what you wanted, there's probably a better way than creating a thread that asks the same question that has been asked in other threads. Then being a D-bag when someone mentions that fact isn't doing yourself any favors either.
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Just thanked you both, someone needed to say it.

dvdbabcock said:
Probably not but I wanted to plant the idea of ics the the minds of the devs since we already have a kernel and source for ics but I guess that any over your little head now didn't it.
So much for subtlety
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I don't think you have to plant anything in the devs minds. It's not like they don't know already....

tdnick said:
I don't think you have to plant anything in the devs minds. It's not like they don't know already....
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^^^^^^^
Times a MILLION. I think we know people want AOSP LOL

droidiac13 said:
^^^^^^^
Times a MILLION. I think we know people want AOSP LOL
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Yeah. Plus I and others have already tried CM9. It's not just, ok we have source, bam CM9.

nygfan760 said:
Yeah. Plus I and others have already tried CM9. It's not just, ok we have source, bam CM9.
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I'm still messing around with CM9. Just filling a void. If somehow I get to the point to boot it and it boots I will be sharing with the community.
That being said, I'm a super noob when it comes to building CM. If I can't build I'm going to try to port it over from something. Not too sure if it's possible but we will see.

I might go to the devs themselves and ask them if they are interested in "fixing" whatever is wrong with CM9, than creating a thread.
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Related

Someone has full HW acceleration working

https://twitter.com/protekkfzs/status/161313490169102338
HP Touchpad: Full HW accel is working. I have several users confirming this with my builds. Should've released the device tree sooner CM...
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Who is this guy? Is there any credibility to what he says?
https://twitter.com/protekkfzs/status/161310800777191424
Whoops! Just pulled a CM! Not ready for public use, sorry! "Your repository `ProTekk/vendor_hp_tenderloin` has been successfully deleted."
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Looks like he's going to be a **** about committing the changes though.
Pfff. Whine whine whine... If it was so easy, they all wouldn't be ripping dals kernel.. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...
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https://twitter.com/protekkfzs/status/161313490169102338
Who is this guy? Is there any credibility to what he says?
https://twitter.com/protekkfzs/status/161310800777191424
Looks like he's going to be a **** about committing the changes though.
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i dont know, but i hope this doesn't start some sort of developer war thats gonna slow progress. Seems like he might have figured it out though.
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Looks like he's going to be a **** about committing the changes though.
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sounds like it's not ready (i.e. stable enough) for mass consumption. don't get your panties in a wad, it takes time to work these things out.
It's legit. Ask around in AndIRC. They all have my last build.
So
You think I could help beta test it?
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It's legit. Ask around in AndIRC. They all have my last build.
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Can you give us your build
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ahoslc said:
You think I could help beta test it?
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Totes.
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Oh geeze. Do we really need more drama again ala Team Touchdroid?
At this point it really doesn't matter to me who gets things working but it would be nice if people could cooperate and not get into mud slinging and that sort of thing.
Internet fame is a silly thing. At the end of the day no one knows who someone's handle really is in real life and they don't care, they just want a decently functioning ROM for their device.
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It's legit. Ask around in AndIRC. They all have my last build.
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So you have it but have no plans to share it? I don't follow.
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So you have it but have no plans to share it? I don't follow.
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I have full intentions to share. Unfortunately, AOKP is not my baby. AOKP is @romanbb's project. I've discussed a release with him and he has told me not to as of yet and I understand why. The source is there, feel free to get it and compile it.
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I have full intentions to share. Unfortunately, AOKP is not my baby. AOKP is @romanbb's project. I've discussed a release with him and he has told me not to as of yet and I understand why. The source is there, feel free to get it and compile it.
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I have absolutely no idea what aokp is, but it's nice that you guys actually provided us with source so that we can do it ourselves if we want to. God willing I don't ever want to boot in to a Linux system so I might have a look around for a windows way of doing it.
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I have full intentions to share. Unfortunately, AOKP is not my baby. AOKP is @romanbb's project. I've discussed a release with him and he has told me not to as of yet and I understand why. The source is there, feel free to get it and compile it.
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Where is the source and whats ne on it
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I have absolutely no idea what aokp is, but it's nice that you guys actually provided us with source so that we can do it ourselves if we want to. God willing I don't ever want to boot in to a Linux system so I might have a look around for a windows way of doing it.
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No way
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No way
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Could you possibly elaborate?
Leo needs to look at this asap and see if he can incorporate into his next release. Impressive work though. Good job on that. Providing it works.
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Could you possibly elaborate?
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I can make a flashable but whats interesting in this build
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I have full intentions to share. Unfortunately, AOKP is not my baby. AOKP is @romanbb's project. I've discussed a release with him and he has told me not to as of yet and I understand why. The source is there, feel free to get it and compile it.
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Do you know where the source is located? I checked TeamKang's github, but it hasn't been updated in a day and seems to lack a tenderloin package. I'd love to have a look at what you guys have done, but my quick 5 minute search led me to your twitter (I vote yes on nightlies, btw) and TeamKang. Thanks for everything, man!
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I can make a flashable but whats interesting in this build
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Hw acceleration......make the flashable please
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I for one am glad to see that progress is being made. If it take's the Devs time to co-ordinate a release, that's all good. Consider that the TouchPad has ICS, and in a state that is serviceable for many apps. When the HW accel is available, it will just make it sweeter.
Not bad for a $149/$99 tablet, IMHO.

CM9DX2 anticipation

Since nobody has said anything about this milestone yet, dragonzkiller has announced on twitter about 6 hours ago that CM9DX2 alpha might be released either tonight or tomorrow! Big props to him for working so hard on getting ICS onto our phones.
Yeah I'm stoked, thanks @dragonzkiller for all your hard work!
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NO WAY!? that is amazing. he has yet to let me down!
That guy works fast...
Greatest news since melvin quit trollin on here
via best rom ever for x2 (cm7)
bow down guys dragonzkiller is the rom god
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Greatest news since melvin quit trollin on here
via best rom ever for x2 (cm7)
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He moved to YouTube, search for dx2 ics, you'll see his asking us to apologize, and you'll see Ubuntubrandon's mocking him with the exact same thing! Haha
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Can't wait to see what cm9dx2 can do.
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His twitter feed has always been the best place to keep track of his progess, did we really need a thread?
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His twitter feed has always been the best place to keep track of his progess, did we really need a thread?
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Not everybody uses twitter.....I can't stand it. This thread is very helpful for those who don't use twitter
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His twitter feed has always been the best place to keep track of his progess, did we really need a thread?
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Sure. Why not spread it around? Not everyone uses twitter. Also, not everyone uses XDA for their development needs. I bet someone here will post this topic on some other forum.
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Not everyday ne uses twitter.....I can't stand it. This thread is very helpful for those who don't use twitter
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Plus, take away our ranting, spamming, and trolling, and all that xda would be is a bunch of download links.
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atomikhippo said:
Sure. Why not spread it around? Not everyone uses twitter. Also, not everyone uses XDA for their development needs. I bet someone here will post this topic on some other forum.
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exactly what I was saying. We should be helping.....not ripping someone for sharing good news!
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Not everybody uses twitter.....I can't stand it. This thread is very helpful for those who don't use twitter
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I only have a twitter account set up to follow devs. I just creep looking for new posts every day. Or every second if they're about to drop a link haha
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Plus, take away our ranting, spamming, and trolling, and all that xda would be is a bunch of download links.
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That's crazy, its almost like it would be a forum solely dedicated to development
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So, I'm curious, what benefits do we get from cm9 as opposed to cm7? Ics is nice, but will there be new features? Or is it just a cleaned up GUI. I know that ics should be able to multi-thread when gingerbread can't, so is that going to happen with our phones? (my guess is not until kexec starts working)
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Ihatepullups said:
So, I'm curious, what benefits do we get from cm9 as opposed to cm7? Ics is nice, but will there be new features? Or is it just a cleaned up GUI. I know that ics should be able to multi-thread when gingerbread can't, so is that going to happen with our phones? (my guess is not until kexec starts working)
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Well as of right now, only dragonzkiller knows how much ICS it will bring us. If its a full CM9 port, Im sure we will have all of the ICS features unless some things dont work. But this is a first Alpha so I'm sure not everything will work. It's just a wait and see right now.
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Well as of right now, only dragonzkiller knows how much ICS it will bring us. If its a full CM9 port, Im sure we will have all of the ICS features unless some things dont work. But this is a first Alpha so I'm sure not everything will work. It's just a wait and see right now.
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Im hoping for zero shutter lag, if he has the camera working.
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That's crazy, its almost like it would be a forum solely dedicated to development
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At least it's in the general forum lol
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Im hoping for zero shutter lag, if he has the camera working.
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Im sure there will be quite a few things not working at first. He's probably only releasing it because he has the main stuff working like data, wifi, cellular network, hopefully sms. I've been watching some videos on cm9 and saw that some other ports didnt have the camera working.

mozilla operating system.

http://imgur.com/a/6vdzW
any chance we can get something like this on the rezound to play with? looks like a very clean os.
I've been waiting for someone with interst in this to.port it for some time
I seriously doubt we get it, atleast at our current state
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superchilpil said:
I've been waiting for someone with interst in this to.port it for some time
I seriously doubt we get it, atleast at our current state
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We shouldnt need s-off to port it. Just have to get a developer interested. Looks like it would be fun to play with.
mighty_markus12 said:
We shouldnt need s-off to port it. Just have to get a developer interested. Looks like it would be fun to play with.
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Nah I mean by not having a aosp kernel
They use android kernels
They give you instructions to install it on a gs2
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Setting_Up_Boot_to_Gecko_Build_Environment
The funny part is that Gaia ( the launcher I suppose) can run on our phones already with limited capabilities, along with any app built for b2g since its completely HTML5 based
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Nah I mean by not having a aosp kernel
They use android kernels
They give you instructions to install it on a gs2
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Setting_Up_Boot_to_Gecko_Build_Environment
The funny part is that Gaia ( the launcher I suppose) can run on our phones already with limited capabilities, along with any app built for b2g since its completely HTML5 based
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so we would need both a working RIL and a aosp kernel? so basically were stuck in the same boat were in now for both miui and cm9?
mighty_markus12 said:
so we would need both a working RIL and a aosp kernel? so basically were stuck in the same boat were in now for both miui and cm9?
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Yupp unfortunately :/
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Yupp unfortunately :/
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that's a bummer.
mighty_markus12 said:
that's a bummer.
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I don't know who to talk to, maybe you do
But a proof of concept without data would be a heck of a lot easier and I wouldn't mind that
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superchilpil said:
I don't know who to talk to, maybe you do
But a proof of concept without data would be a heck of a lot easier and I wouldn't mind that
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i have no clue who to talk to? that's why i posted a request thread here.
Im shocked there isnt more interest in this?
I honestly think it looks pretty tacky except the lockscreen and the browser.
I much rather developers run with the new open sourced WebOS.
mighty_markus12 said:
Im shocked there isnt more interest in this?
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Well it is Sunday
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That kinda reminds me of a windows phone.
Hoping if you guys can this working then the Vivid will too!
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I Am Marino said:
I honestly think it looks pretty tacky except the lockscreen and the browser.
I much rather developers run with the new open sourced WebOS.
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Im doubting much will happen with webos, its a little to late.
mighty_markus12 said:
any chance we can get something like this on the rezound to play with? looks like a very clean os.
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No attraction to this for me. Not into a tiled screen look.
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krelvinaz said:
No attraction to this for me. Not into a tiled screen look.
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To each their own. Id like something other than sense for a change. It was just a thought.
mighty_markus12 said:
Im doubting much will happen with webos, its a little to late.
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Do note, I said the new open sourced WebOS, not the one we're all used to.
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Do note, I said the new open sourced WebOS, not the one we're all used to.
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Well if anything the manufactures will yank the best parts out and use that in the roms. As far as devs porting it to our phones it will be interesting to see who tackles it. Thats why i asked if there was interest in the mozilla os, might be fun to play with.
quepaso said:
Listen, if you want something other then sense on your phone, sell your phone and buy one that comes with whatever you were looking for. If it gets ported to the rezound by a dev, cool, if not, all this begging, post bumping etc is just worthless. There are countless people on the rezound forum who keep wanting something other then sense. If you want AOSP, buy a nexus. Dont flood the forums begging for something else. Its extremely tiring and imo should be a bannable offense so we can set an example to everyone. The rezound community is known as one of the crappiest out there due to your type constantly begging and *****ing.
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So you want people banned who just "discuss" other possibilities? Good logic there. If your soo offended a few of us would like something else and would donate for it maybe you should keep your comments to yourself. All we were doing is talking about it. In case you didnt notice this is the general section of the forum. And no im not the reason you call the rezound forum crappy, you said it not any of us. So by your logic i guess dmedows should stop working on aosp and scotty should abandon hope of s-off. Sounds to me "no offense" that you are afraid of change.
Back on topic.

4.1 or 4.2 Rom?

So the Lg has been out almost 3 months now. Yet no ROMS for it really. When are the 4.1 or 4.2 ROMS coming out so I can get this old ICS off my phone
falcon26 said:
So the Lg has been out almost 3 months now. Yet no ROMS for it really. When are the 4.1 or 4.2 ROMS coming out so I can get this old ICS off my phone
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As soon as you find out, well you let us all know? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
There are people working on stuff but we have no ETA's because:
1) we don't ask for eta's here, it's against xda etiquette
2) their hands are tied and they are working without source for the most part, it's hard work
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Jank4AU said:
As soon as you find out, well you let us all know? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
There are people working on stuff but we have no ETA's because:
1) we don't ask for eta's here, it's against xda etiquette
2) their hands are tied and they are working without source for the most part, it's hard work
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I wasn't sure if I should have responded to this thread... I didn't want to come off as rude... but nothing else came to mind, so I abstained. :laugh:
bleached45 said:
I wasn't sure if I should have responded to this thread... I didn't want to come off as rude... but nothing else came to mind, so I abstained. :laugh:
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I should have...falcon, I wasn't trying to be a douche, forgive?
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falcon26 said:
So the Lg has been out almost 3 months now. Yet no ROMS for it really. When are the 4.1 or 4.2 ROMS coming out so I can get this old ICS off my phone
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What calendar are you using ?
adfurgerson said:
What calendar are you using ?
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Mayan.
bleached45 said:
Mayan.
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yeah, that one didn't work either. The world never ended...of course I am still married, so same thing.
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Lol. I like you guys. Turned a rather pointless and redundant thread, no offense, into a good laugh.
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bleached45 said:
I wasn't sure if I should have responded to this thread... I didn't want to come off as rude... but nothing else came to mind, so I abstained. :laugh:
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Same here lol. So many things unsaid haha
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Wow I had no idea it was such an offensive question my apologies
Murasakiii said:
Same here lol. So many things unsaid haha
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Haha, I'm liking this community, fun and entertaining people.
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Wow I had no idea it was such an offensive question my apologies
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It's ok, we are giving you a hard time because these kind of posts are frowned upon.
You may not have had such intentions, but it comes off as unappreciative of devs work and pace.
The devs will take care of us. Just give them their time :good:
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You may not have had such intentions, but it comes off as unappreciative of devs work and pace.
The devs will take care of us. Just give them their time :good:
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ROM wasn't built in a day.
Ba-dum-bum.
Nastybutler said:
ROM wasn't built in a day.
Ba-dum-bum.
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You accidentally a letter there. Jk.
But clever.
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Wow I had no idea it was such an offensive question my apologies
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my bad, dude, I was just bored. It's all good!
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When I had my Sony phone most of the users in the respective forums were rude and know-it-alls. I'm liking the camaraderie in this community much better.
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johnbyebye said:
When I had my Sony phone most of the users in the respective forums were rude and know-it-alls. I'm liking the camaraderie in this community much better.
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Just wait til more ROMs are released. Then we will see this level of comradeship turn into a mutiny petition signing. People always pick the dev they like the best and make gangs and such.
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ChefAnt said:
Just wait til more ROMs are released. Then we will see this level of comradeship turn into a mutiny petition signing. People always pick the dev they like the best and make gangs and such.
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Ah, spent some time in the AT&T Galaxy S-II forums, did ya?
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Jank4AU said:
Ah, spent some time in the AT&T Galaxy S-II forums, did ya?
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XDA is generally a huge circlejerk of fanboys and noobs.
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XDA is generally a huge circlejerk of fanboys and noobs.
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Hey! I resemble those remarks. :cyclops:
johnbyebye said:
When I had my Sony phone most of the users in the respective forums were rude and know-it-alls. I'm liking the camaraderie in this community much better.
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X10?
lol, that place was nice... then a dev was acused of stealing another's work and ...stuff... hit the fan.

E970 V10l Source Code Released? I noob

So.... I was thinking of trolling XDA with some of my negativity. Then I stumbled on this.... It seems to be the source code for Optimus G... Good luck and have fun? I don't know anything about development so I downloaded this before posting it on here. Looks right. Believe in me and LG?
http://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensource-detail.jsp
geokilla said:
So.... I was thinking of trolling XDA with some of my negativity. Then I stumbled on this.... It seems to be the source code for Optimus G... Good luck and have fun? I don't know anything about development so I downloaded this before posting it on here. Looks right. Believe in me and LG?
http://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensource-detail.jsp
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Looked for the source code and the code is for ICS, not JB yet. Have heard that the code for the Korean one is up to be released the next week, and that is all the Devs need to start creating a Kernel they can use with all sorts of AOSP ROMs (e.g. CM10).
Disclaimer, this is just my understanding, not a given fact.
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Looked for the source code and the code is for ICS, not JB yet. Have heard that the code for the Korean one is up to be released the next week, and that is all the Devs need to start creating a Kernel they can use with all sorts of AOSP ROMs (e.g. CM10).
Disclaimer, this is just my understanding, not a given fact.
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Yep, source for JB will greatly help with the AOSP roms, CM10, etc; the ICS source code is apparently really terribly put together, so it was of little use.
Software version says it all....
So I got excited for no reason. And here I thought I made a huge contribution to XDA..
geokilla said:
So I got excited for no reason. And here I thought I made a huge contribution to XDA..
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Go back to your negativity you're better at it
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shook187 said:
Go back to your negativity you're better at it
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You made me laugh in bed and wake up my wife.
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Yep, source for JB will greatly help with the AOSP roms, CM10, etc; the ICS source code is apparently really terribly put together, so it was of little use.
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So if the JB source looks like cancer too...
What do we do then?
Just cry?
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So if the JB source looks like cancer too...
What do we do then?
Just cry?
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N4 convert!
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bleached45 said:
So if the JB source looks like cancer too...
What do we do then?
Just cry?
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I died
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