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Has anyone done a warranty exchange with an unlocked bootloader? For example:
Your headphone jack develops issues and you're pretty sure it's a hardware problem with the connector as noted in this thread. You have an unlocked bootloader so the text "UNLOCKED" is shown every time you boot, but otherwise stock 4.5.91. You are beyond your 30 day exchange period.
You send the phone in for a warranty exchange, and since it's a hardware issue Motorola does one of the following:
1. Says, "Everything is cool, we know you unlocked the bootloader but can see this is an obvious hardware issue and will give you an exchange."
2. Says, "You unlocked the bootloader and voided your warranty. You owe us $500."
3. Replaces the phone without noticing.
Would flashing the stock 4.5.91 SBF to remove the "UNLOCKED" notice change anything?
This is all purely hypothetical, of course.
I have no idea what checks Motorola goes through when they receive a device under warranty but, for me personally, I just accept that I forfeited my warranty when I unlocked my BL. I know it doesn't seem fair for the consumer to have this mentality but until they decide to offer us the unlocks officially we have to play by their rules.
stewartsoda said:
Has anyone done a warranty exchange with an unlocked bootloader? For example:
Your headphone jack develops issues and you're pretty sure it's a hardware problem with the connector as noted in this thread. You have an unlocked bootloader so the text "UNLOCKED" is shown every time you boot, but otherwise stock 4.5.91. You are beyond your 30 day exchange period.
You send the phone in for a warranty exchange, and since it's a hardware issue Motorola does one of the following:
1. Says, "Everything is cool, we know you unlocked the bootloader but can see this is an obvious hardware issue and will give you an exchange."
2. Says, "You unlocked the bootloader and voided your warranty. You owe us $500."
3. Replaces the phone without noticing.
Would flashing the stock 4.5.91 SBF to remove the "UNLOCKED" notice change anything?
This is all purely hypothetical, of course.
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Let us know when you find out.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
stewartsoda said:
Has anyone done a warranty exchange with an unlocked bootloader? For example:
Your headphone jack develops issues and you're pretty sure it's a hardware problem with the connector as noted in this thread. You have an unlocked bootloader so the text "UNLOCKED" is shown every time you boot, but otherwise stock 4.5.91. You are beyond your 30 day exchange period.
You send the phone in for a warranty exchange, and since it's a hardware issue Motorola does one of the following:
1. Says, "Everything is cool, we know you unlocked the bootloader but can see this is an obvious hardware issue and will give you an exchange."
2. Says, "You unlocked the bootloader and voided your warranty. You owe us $500."
3. Replaces the phone without noticing.
Would flashing the stock 4.5.91 SBF to remove the "UNLOCKED" notice change anything?
This is all purely hypothetical, of course.
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Well, here in canada with Bell, if you have a software problem you're in deep sh*t...
If it's a hardware problem, they fix it or they give you another atrix ^^
Your welcome
In Singapore, sent in an Atrix with a hardware problem, (Atrix will not start up)
They fixed it and returned it back to me with the bootloader still unlocked.
(They returned it to stock, but OEM fuse shows it is unlocked)
Really though, pray or go on your lucky day!
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Would flashing the stock 4.5.91 SBF to remove the "UNLOCKED" notice change anything?
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Flashing to a FroYo SBF can either remove the text or brick your phone.
If you updated to Gingerbread officially (OTA) than it would brick your phone
Well I actually just got off the phone with AT&T and I'm getting a replacement phone because the vibrate motor (don't want to call it a vibrator ) in this one is broken or something. She said they only charge the big fee if there's water damage or severe cracks, etc. I mentioned that I had modified the phone in various Android-ish ways and she said it doesn't matter because they flash it to stock before they do anything with it...But AFAIK there's no way to relock the bootloader for us Atrix owners. Hopefully they can do something we don't know about, or I'm screwed. I imagine they have plenty of ways to get it back to stock. No where on AT&T's terms for warranty exchanges does it say anything about getting the fee for something other than water damage/extreme physical damage/etc.
EDIT: I got online with another ATT rep, because I was freaking out. I told him about the unlocked bootloader and he said "Yes, that will be a problem". When I read that, pants had been pooped. I was glad that I found out so I could perhaps cancel the exchange, but mad that I was basically stuck with this broken phone now...Then he said he talked to a supervisor, and he told him that google recently required manufacturer's to take any phone regardless of any modifications that had been made to it in spirit of open source. So I confirmed numerous times that the unlock won't be a problem. And as long as there's no water damage (circle on back is still white) or extreme physical damage, you should get the replacement without any fee.
At the very least, if anything were to arise, I feel I have reason to argue now that I've confirmed this in so many ways... Hope this helps you all!
guys, just use the SBF to flash to stock. it *should* remove the "unlocked" text on boot. I HIGHLY doubt they will go into that much trouble to try to see if your bootloader is unlocked or not.
andy2na said:
guys, just use the SBF to flash to stock. it *should* remove the "unlocked" text on boot. I HIGHLY doubt they will go into that much trouble to try to see if your bootloader is unlocked or not.
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I also highly doubt that they would check but I'm not willing to risk $500 on that doubt.
I might have hypothetically fixed the headphone jack on my own anyway. But I still think that inquiring minds would want to know the answer to this: Can a software modification release Motorola from honoring warranty claims based on hardware issues?
stewartsoda said:
I also highly doubt that they would check but I'm not willing to risk $500 on that doubt.
I might have hypothetically fixed the headphone jack on my own anyway. But I still think that inquiring minds would want to know the answer to this: Can a software modification release Motorola from honoring warranty claims based on hardware issues?
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Fastboot oem unlock.
Iphone > galaxy s 2.
@thebeardedchild - So did you actually replace the phone through ATT warranty and they didnt charge you any money.
I replaced mine through at&t not a single charge was given to me. Bootloader was unlocked and had stock gingerbread.
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defnow said:
I replaced mine through at&t not a single charge was given to me. Bootloader was unlocked and had stock gingerbread.
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And it said "unlocked" at the top left during boot and everything? Just trying to clarify whether you tried to hide it or not or left it as obvious as it normally would...
If you did hide it, what did you do? I've been confused as to whether you SBF flash or what. I'm scared of bricking this phone before I send it back haha.
@hjd17, I haven't sent it in yet, the replacement hasn't arrived. The poster I quoted has had success though, so that should answer your question!
Hi all,
But why don't you all put stock rom with rsd? If you do this the label "unlocked" Goes
away. Just download the stock rom from xda in the thread under the Android development and push it with rsd, no worries i've done it lot of times....
stewartsoda said:
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I might have hypothetically fixed the headphone jack on my own anyway. But I still think that inquiring minds would want to know the answer to this: Can a software modification release Motorola from honoring warranty claims based on hardware issues?
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IF Moto was going to hold you to this, then I would expect them to win unless you could show the product was broken day one.
In reality, it is not worth it for companies to play this game. Easier just to fix and get on with life.
They could make it easy for all (and collect some cash) by adding a "un hard-bricking" fee.
Unlocked boot-loader and running a non-OEM ROM.
My device's LCD appeared to have burn-in, went to AT&T and he gave me grief because he noticed the launcher was not stock and the background was different (Really?) So I kindly returned the launcher to Blur and changed the background to something else.
They replaced my device on-site.
I have unlocked bootloader, and am trying to return it to stock. RSD lite won't show my device...
here is more info on my drama: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17571581#post17571581
any idea how to proceed with flashing the OEM .sbf when RSD lite will not recognize the device? thanks...
my rezound is unlocke and rooted. my ear piece speaker make really bad cracking noise. if i unroot the phone, can i have warranty replacement? or will there be a problem?
Well
No one has an answer to this. You will not know you have a problem until months and months. If months from now you get a charge for a unit, because you voided the warranty and then sent it in for warranty exchange, only then will you know.
There just simply hasn't been enough time since HTC released the unlock, people unlocked (I still have NOT for this very reason), and then people started trying to turn in unlocked phones to Verizon.
if u can use asurion u would be fine... they take them back no matter if they are unlocked or not
oh.. well...
if u have no other choice i say re-lock and try it
even when you re lock it, it says that it is relocked, thus showing that it was once rooted, so it helps but it isn't 100%, I would just put the stock RUU on the phone, so stock ROM, recovery, and then re-lock bootloader as suggested and give it a try.
I think you will be ok, but dont take my word.
andybones said:
even when you re lock it, it says that it is relocked, thus showing that it was once rooted, so it helps but it isn't 100%, I would just put the stock RUU on the phone, so stock ROM, recovery, and then re-lock bootloader as suggested and give it a try.
I think you will be ok, but dont take my word.
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+1 this should work unless they really check for it and know to lock for it saying unlocked
Call tech support and profit. I've gotten two replacements which are worse than the original... But I got them none the less! Both are going back to Verizon lololol.
I have seen many people say unlocking voids the warranty, but they are all lying. On HTC DEV it says unlocking MAY void you warranty. I think if the device is re-locked and has the stock ROM installed there shouldn't be any issues.
FWIW, and don't take it as 100%, I know a guy in the warranty department that told me as long as it can be flashed to stock when they hook it up and it works, they don't care about root or unlocking. People have even received phones already unlocked.
06stang said:
FWIW, and don't take it as 100%, I know a guy in the warranty department that told me as long as it can be flashed to stock when they hook it up and it works, they don't care about root or unlocking. People have even received phones already unlocked.
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I'd bet that's it. At least for a physical defect. Unless HTC decides to go evil. But I doubt it.
When using HTC dev to unlock your bootloader, does HTC keep track of the phones that have unlocked bootloaders? Reason I ask is because ASUS tracks the serial number of unlocked bootloaders for the Prime tablet using their online unlock utility and can thus know when a tablet is out of warranty for unlocked bootloaders. Because of this, you get no remaining warranty, nada, zilch.
I am just curious if HTC does the same thing.
I don't mean to be rude, but seriously, what do you think??
If it wasn't tracked, do you think they'd be asking for your phone's finger print hash. Do you think they'd be asking you to accept the EULA pertaining to the htcdev unlock...
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Not trying to be rude, but what I think was worded in my original post, that why it was asked. It was a question I didn't know the answer too because the last bootloader I unlocked with the Evo 4G when it came out, what 2 years ago. HTC dev didn't exist back then but they still said that it would void your warranty, but you of course we all knew there was no way to for them to track it.
So asking how HTC dev works (even though again they say it will void your warranty) I think is a valid question.
Yes. Using HTC Dev to unlock your boot loader will void your warranty. Yes, HTC will assume NO responsibility from any problems that result from unlocking your bootloader. I am not sure if it entirely voids the warranty (i.e. legitimately defective hardware), but anything that could go wrong by having the unlocked boot loader is no longer covered. It is just a risk you have to take to unlock your phones full potential. If that is important enough to, then unlock it. If not, just root it with one of the one-click methods and be happy with that.
xhaui said:
Yes. Using HTC Dev to unlock your boot loader will void your warranty. Yes, HTC will assume NO responsibility from any problems that result from unlocking your bootloader. I am not sure if it entirely voids the warranty (i.e. legitimately defective hardware), but anything that could go wrong by having the unlocked boot loader is no longer covered. It is just a risk you have to take to unlock your phones full potential. If that is important enough to, then unlock it. If not, just root it with one of the one-click methods and be happy with that.
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Thanks
I searched and couldn't find a clear answer to my question:
I bought an AT&T HTC One off CL and want to flash the international ROM, however, I am afraid of voiding my warranty...
1) is there any way to restore htc one back to its "locked" state after unlocking, from what I understand it is only possible to change it to "relocked"
2) Does the "relocked" status imply voided warranty? has anyone dealt with AT&T in the past?
I have seen my share of smartphones failing, including my international S3 failing into its 14th month so would really like to keep the warranty intact
Unlocking the bootloader does not necessarily void your warranty in the U.S. But it will probably make your claim a little more difficult. HTC has, in the past, honored warranty when the fault was clearly not the users fault. For example, if your power button gets stuck in the down position and can't be raised. At this time, there is no way to get the phone to show LOCKED again instead of RELOCKED. Now if HTC gets your phone and determines the issue was caused by the user, they will still replace it but charge you for the parts. You will probably have more luck working with AT&T reps in your warranty claim because they aren't trained on how to tell if your phone is unlocked/rooted as long as you aren't obvious about it.
Sent from my Galaxy S4
ledocbio said:
I searched and couldn't find a clear answer to my question:
I bought an AT&T HTC One off CL and want to flash the international ROM, however, I am afraid of voiding my warranty...
1) is there any way to restore htc one back to its "locked" state after unlocking, from what I understand it is only possible to change it to "relocked"
2) Does the "relocked" status imply voided warranty? has anyone dealt with AT&T in the past?
I have seen my share of smartphones failing, including my international S3 failing into its 14th month so would really like to keep the warranty intact
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AHEM: /Taps mic....
Simply unlocking your bootloader isn't an automatic voiding of a warranty.
I am doing a warranty return myself and the terms I agreed to were the phone must not be physically damaged, or water damaged.
Also HTC THEMSELVES will repair a phone UNDER WARRANTY with a HARDWARE DEFECT despite having an unlocked bootloader.
I have never in my several years of dealing with AT&T had a warranty refused because I rooted my phone.
/drops mic
Until we get S-off (which is coming soon) the bootloader cannot be made to say "LOCKED" once it has been unlocked.
Sorry for the double post, but thought of one more thing. I had to get my phone warranty swapped for dead pixels. The AT&T reps I dealt with in person tried to convince me that my device wasn't covered because, like you, I bought the phone from an individual. They said warranty are not tranferrable and only belong to the person who bought the phone. This is not true. Warranty is on the device and provided by HTC, not AT&T. They are simply acting as an intermediary to facilitate the exchange. I had a whole lot less trouble dealing with the phone support folks in getting it swapped.
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unremarked said:
Sorry for the double post, but thought of one more thing. I had to get my phone warranty swapped for dead pixels. The AT&T reps I dealt with in person tried to convince me that my device wasn't covered because, like you, I bought the phone from an individual. They said warranty are not tranferrable and only belong to the person who bought the phone. This is not true. Warranty is on the device and provided by HTC, not AT&T. They are simply acting as an intermediary to facilitate the exchange. I had a whole lot less trouble dealing with the phone support folks in getting it swapped.
Sent from my Galaxy S4
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Thanks for that piece of information, MOST HELPFUL!
Any idea if there will be a different unlock tool for s-off our if I can unlock and just wait for s-off?
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If past exploits are any indication you're going to need root to gain s-off so go ahead and unlock.
I'm sending my HTC one m8 in for the one time free glass replacement. I have unlocked the boot loader and rooted the phone will they still do it for free or do I need to do something before I send it in?
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They shouldn't care, but I would unroot phone and relock the boot loader just to be on the safe side. Relocking the phone will factory reset phone, but I would do that anyway regardless just so my personal stuff wasn't in someone else's possession.
stlracer said:
I'm sending my HTC one m8 in for the one time free glass replacement. I have unlocked the boot loader and rooted the phone will they still do it for free or do I need to do something before I send it in?
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I was told by an HTC chat representative that because I registered and downloaded the unlock code from HTC that this voided the warranty - all parts of it, including the Advantage Program. - I think this is terrible. Unlocking the bootloader has NOTHING to do with dropping the phone or replacing a broken part.
I hope you have good luck getting the glass replaced free under the program. Please keep us posted on what happens!
From what I have see, there have been mixed reports. Some folks with modded phone have had their screen fixed under Advantage, and some have been denied (HTC makes you pay for the repair?).
I would recommend return the phone to LOCKED (s-off required), return to s-on, and everything else stock, and hope for the best. If you unlocked by HTCDev.com, they have a record of you doing so by the phone's IMEI. So your chances are probably not great. If you unlocked the bootloader via sunshine, they should have no way of knowing the phone is modded if you return everything to stock.
Bootloader can say "relocked" and it will still be able to be fixed. If rooted and unlocked and non stock firmware/software/recovery then they will not fix based on my findings(repair center techs).
My screen malfunctioned and I had to send the phone in for replacement. I returned back to stock via RUU and relocked the bootloader, but left it S-Off. I did not get any grief from HTC. So far, I have left the new phone completely stock, but I'll likely unlock, root, and s-off at some point. ?
mbcastle said:
My screen malfunctioned and I had to send the phone in for replacement. I returned back to stock via RUU and relocked the bootloader, but left it S-Off. I did not get any grief from HTC. So far, I have left the new phone completely stock, but I'll likely unlock, root, and s-off at some point.
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Did you unlock the bootloader using HTC Dev, or via Sunshine/other?
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Did you unlock the bootloader using HTC Dev, or via Sunshine/other?
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I unlocked using HTC Dev, so they certainly have a record of it. Plus, mine said "relocked" on the bootloader screen.
I sent mine in around January 3rd with a relocked bootloader with no issues at all except for them breaking mt camera lens on the return shipment , this being after it got damaged on the way there... -_- but they dont care about the bootloader as far as I'm concerned
When I contacted HTC chat originally for my free screen replacement, I was unlocked and rooted, and they gave me the runaround about the warranty being voided (I unlocked through HTCdev).
I exited the chat, relocked the bootloader and flashed back to stock.
Went back into a new chat, they replaced it without a hitch. Well unless you consider the power button now being stuck on my new phone, so I need to send it back under warranty again, a hitch lol.
So apparently, if you contact them while rooted and unlocked, they may try to use it to void your warranty. But if you put it back to factory, you're showing them it's not a software issue from you messing with it (don't ask me how a cracked screen would be), so they give you no hassle.