Hello. I have a Samsung Galaxy S Advance with a Gingerbread 2.3.6 Android version installed and unrooted. The official Jelly Bean update was released in Russia a couple of days ago and I really wanna try it now. The question is, if I flash with the new stock ROM, will my device still be unrooted? Because when the update becomes available in my country I'd like to get it and still have my phone unrooted, I wouldn't like to void my warranty forever and thus would like to keep the OTA updates. Will I have to do something special or will it remain unrooted?
slugthrower- said:
Hello. I have a Samsung Galaxy S Advance with a Gingerbread 2.3.6 Android version installed and unrooted. The official Jelly Bean update was released in Russia a couple of days ago and I really wanna try it now. The question is, if I flash with the new stock ROM, will my device still be unrooted? Because when the update becomes available in my country I'd like to get it and still have my phone unrooted, I wouldn't like to void my warranty forever and thus would like to keep the OTA updates. Will I have to do something special or will it remain unrooted?
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Some of the stock roms are pre- rooted, some not. Without a link or example I can say: try it out. Same websites offer the stock roms for samsung devices - that are completely stock version without root. If the russian rom comes pre- rooted there's a way back to your unrooted stock rom.
What's wrong with root?
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Some of the stock roms are pre- rooted, some not. Without a link or example I can say: try it out. Same websites offer the stock roms for samsung devices - that are completely stock version without root. If the russian rom comes pre- rooted there's a way back to your unrooted stock rom.
What's wrong with root?
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Sorry for not providing bonus info. Wow actually xda does not want me to post outside links because I don't have enough posts yet.
However, this is the link of the ROM: sammobile . com/firmware/?page=8&view=10052 (it has some spaces)
I really don't know if it's pre-rooted, how can I find out?
And I actually don't know what's wrong with root, as I said I just don't want to void my warranty. If I have rooted phone will I still be able to receive OTA updates?
slugthrower- said:
Sorry for not providing bonus info. Wow actually xda does not want me to post outside links because I don't have enough posts yet.
However, this is the link of the ROM: sammobile . com/firmware/?page=8&view=10052 (it has some spaces)
I really don't know if it's pre-rooted, how can I find out?
And I actually don't know what's wrong with root, as I said I just don't want to void my warranty. If I have rooted phone will I still be able to receive OTA updates?
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Xda blocks links for member under 30 posts.
Sam mobile offers complete stock Roms. It's not rooted.
Another question: is it a contract phone? Sometimes the providers sell the phones with a provider customized firmware, but that's just a thought about how friendly their support team is.
Rooting won't break the ota rules on the most phones e.g.my nexus is rooted with stock ROM and I receive the normal ota but I could lose my root.
On the other hand if your actual stock ROM is on samfirmware you are nearly save to flash everything.
And just to add it again: AdamOutler made a xda news video about rooting and warranty, it could help you.
search for custom rom.. better than stock.. and no need to wait for updates
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First Of all I would like to thank anyone who helps me in advance.
Just received my new galaxy s2 (around 30 minutes ago). Allready I want to root the device. Although i'm looking for a point in the right direction on the following.
a)the easiest guide to rooting
b)I'm after a stock (most up to date rom) if possible as my is currently filled with bloat ware (thanks to three UK). Coming from a Nexus s which was my first android phone I'm not used to this neither do I like it. So is the a way to flash a stock rom so the phone is like it would be if I brought it sim free and unlocked.
Currently not looking at any other gains, for the time being at least although im sure the flashing roms bug will catch me.
Old phone was a Nexus s as previously stated which was rooted with CWM installed.
Also I can't believe how busy these forums are! Makes the Nexus scene look dead!
easiest guide to rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
upto date stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17831528&postcount=60
Rooting means voiding warranty.
Wouldn't you want to try out the phone and stress test it a little under a valid warranty before you start messing with it?
I was under the impression I could just unroot the device?
Also that stock rom I was linked to will that get rid of the bloat ware?
stennett said:
I was under the impression I could just unroot the device?
Also that stock rom I was linked to will that get rid of the bloat ware?
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You can just unroot it, yes. Unfortunately, a lot of the "bloatware" is Samsung, not your carrier, so you're stuck with it (unless you read up on what you can safely get rid of). If you're looking at flashing an up-to-date firmware anyway, why not consider an AOSP ROM. It's the closest thing you'll get to a Nexus build and they're about as bare-bones as you can get!
If you are interested in that, here's a link for one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183063
There are others, but I can only speak about that one personally because that's the only AOSP one I used before I went MIUI.
stennett said:
I was under the impression I could just unroot the device?
Also that stock rom I was linked to will that get rid of the bloat ware?
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Yes you can unroot. But every time you flash an unofficial kernel(to root), you increase the custom binary counter. Samsung will know that you have been rooted before even if you reinstall the firmware and kernel. USB Jig's reset the counter, but don't upgrade to the latest firmware(KI3) that hasn't been modified to include the old bootloader. The new firmware fixes the USB Jig counter reset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
Trust me it's is the best rooting guide for noobs. When I rooted my device that was the only guide I could trust, because it was a step by step guide. Read it carefully, if you got any problems you can pm me and I'll help you. If you post in the thread you'll get help also but you have to reach 10 post to post in that thread.
EDIT: I also found a video that shows the same method from the thread I gave you.
http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s2/
Just in case you need visual support. But you should read the thread carefully anyway.
Thanks for the link to the video, rooting looks really easy although I'm abit sceptical about rooting at the moment due to them knowing if you have previously rooted I thought they wouldn't be able to tell.
Also things look very complicated when compared to the nexus s the galaxy s2 seems to have hundreds of different codes, firmware versions ect.
All I'm after at the moment is just get rid of the Three branding and bloat ware.
A lot more reading ahead I think!
Been doing a little reading and I think the branding is the CSC? Can I just flash the XEU file for 2.3.4 (my current version) to get rid of three's branding? If so would this void my warranty?
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Been doing a little reading and I think the branding is the CSC? Can I just flash the XEU file for 2.3.4 (my current version) to get rid of three's branding? If so would this void my warranty?
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Samsung stock roms do not void Samsung warranty though they may or may not void Threes warranty .
Rooting or custom roms void warranty .
jje
I'm not to fussed about rooting at them moment I just want to change my csc and upgrade to 2.3.5 which I believe is the latest version. Doing this won't void my Samsung warranty? If so I'm going to have a go.
Also will flashing wipe any data?
Thanks in advance.
Hello i know the title seems an awful lot like a dating website info but basically i have been researching androids and stuff for hours on ends and i do not understand the jargon!! i need some simple answers please
I have a Galaxy Ace and i hope someone can answer questions such as
what is rooting and what can it do?
what is updating firmware because i fink i should update to 2.3.5 but does this mean i cant root if i update?
what is custom ROMs and what can they do?
At what stage do i back up my phone e.g. before i root or after i root? before i update or after i update?
I will be very very grateful and plz dont direct me to other links because i have read hundreds of them and all of them explain in too much detail.
Thank You.
See here: http://droidlessons.com/what-is-rooting-on-android-the-advantages-and-disadvantages/ and here: http://www.androidauthority.com/roo...e-to-root-your-android-phone-or-tablet-10915/. Sorry , too long to explain.
Rooting is forcing the phone to allow you access to the internal files of the phone (like the root directory of a hard drive)
Once you have access to the root you can do things that neither android / your service provider wanted you to play with.
Change fonts, modify the teeny system images, allow programs to do (dangerous) system changes to your phone.
Changing the firmware is not something I've played with but, say your phone comes to you with version 1 on it, and version 2 is released in Japan. Well some of the cleverer out there pick and poke and make working versions and then put them up, sometime months before people like o2 orange vodafone have put them into testing / marketing / production / helplines etc.
I'm pretty sure that rooting can affect warranty.
Changing the firmware definately will.
IMO rooting was needed on my x10i before 2.3.3 came out as the Sony Ericsson stuff was eating battery life. Now, its massively sorted out. No need to root.
But I'm not much of a tinkerer
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
KelvinMead said:
I'm pretty sure that rooting can affect warranty.
Changing the firmware definately will.
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Just rooting alone WILL void your warranty. No flashing of roms is required.
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anz2k8 said:
At what stage do i back up my phone e.g. before i root or after i root? before i update or after i update?
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You backup your device after you root but before you install a custom rom. To root your device, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034145.
Warning: Do not attempt this until you fully understand the risks and you know exactly what you are doing.
thanx for da links and simple explanations
it helped me understand rooting alot more however custom ROM is still a grey area.. and when should i update to gingerbread.. before or after rooting?
i ask this because i'm seeing rooting similar as chipping a psp where you need the right official firmware before you chip it.. so i'm thinking i will need a certain firmware for a certain root.
also.. i was wondering which is the best overall firmware i should go to ; 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5? i am thinking the 2.3.5 as it is the latest but new doesn't always mean best as it could have untested bugs etc.
Thank You
anz2k8 said:
thanx for da links and simple explanations
it helped me understand rooting alot more however custom ROM is still a grey area.. and when should i update to gingerbread.. before or after rooting?
i ask this because i'm seeing rooting similar as chipping a psp where you need the right official firmware before you chip it.. so i'm thinking i will need a certain firmware for a certain root.
also.. i was wondering which is the best overall firmware i should go to ; 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5? i am thinking the 2.3.5 as it is the latest but new doesn't always mean best as it could have untested bugs etc.
Thank You
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You should update to Gingerbread after rooting (with a custom rom). Custom roms are simply roms made unofficially (not from manufacturers or service providers) by developers. You could update to 2.3.7 with this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263292. After you root and install a custom recovery, then you can start flashing roms.
google is your friend..use him
he wont hurt u
I am also curious about the new updates, i suppose it all depends on if the rom you have can handle it? I'm using coredroid on my HTC Sensation
Thanks for reading - I'm a noob.
I came here to learn about rooting devices over 6 months ago and decided to have a go at rooting my SGS 2 to remove the bloatware and speed it up a bit.
Performance has been great - I left the stock firmware because the OS/ROM was not a concern to me. I simply flashed the kernel with CF Root: CF-Root-SGS2_ZS_OZS_KF4-v4.0-CWM4.tar
Now I am led to understand I would need to flash back to my stock kernel to allow the OTA update for ICS - the only issue is I cannot find any available downloads for I9100TDVKF4 - Telstra's stock kernel.
Now I read somewhere a reply to a similar question was "just flash it with a new rom, I dont know why you want to go to stock" - Well I want to update to the official ICS. I was under the impression that would be available a long time ago and never was. I just want to....
Please can anyone help me to point out where I can find that kernel? perhaps there is a different kernel i could use?!
Is there any ICS firmware I would be able to download and flash to the ROM using Odin whilst keeping my phone rooted?
I found this place really helpful in how to root and now I just hope someone can help me get onto ICS!
Cheers
Is there any ICS firmware I would be able to download and flash to the ROM using Odin whilst keeping my phone rooted?
No only custom rooted firmware .
Try Checkfus for your stock firmware download and flash via Odin .
Dont confuse yourself with kernels without understanding .
ICS on Checkfus or Kies for your phone install otherwise wait until your provider releases .
or flash your original saved firmware that will overwrite root .
jje
Thanks for taking the time to reply mate....
Dont confuse yourself with kernels without understanding - dont worry ive been trying not to but it seems thats the only thing i changed on my phone when i rooted it so i was lead to believe i needed to change that back...
My provider has just released new version of ICS but i cant actually install it once ive downloaded it over the air it only gets to 8% then reboots itself and i believe thats because the phone is rooted...
or flash your original saved firmware that will overwrite root - I dont know if i backed it up correctly on the guide i was using!!! The only thing i backed up was the apps using titanium backup so now i feel im stuck!
Use check fus down loader and get the official ics ROM.
It's under i9100t Australia/telestra
Problem solved.
Hi, and apologies as this is probably the 10,000th post on JB updates. I have searched etc, but just wanted a sanity check to see if I have this right.
As the title says, I have a UK GT-I9300 (BTU) that was rooted in my eagerness when I dumped ios (so used to Jailbreaking, I didnt even think about it). I'll admit I didnt think things through at the time (or read up enough!)
So, I rooted the phone using Odin and CF-Root-SGS3-v6.0, and now JB is upon us. I now know that I can't just use Kies or OTA (unless Ive got it wrong), so I just need to use Odin to flash a download (from one of the various Firmware sites) of the JB update for my particular version ?
If I want it to appear as unmodified, I need to use Triangle Away ?
Have I got this correct, or am I missing a piece of the jigsaw, or do I need a pre-rooted JB ?
Cheers for any help, as I'd rather not stuff this up
If I need to flash the stock rom via odin first, I'll have to find it, as all the links I found are dead now :fingers-crossed:
Hello,
Long time reader here. I finally made an account recently because I finally wanted to Root my phone and mess around with Cyanogenmod.
My question is this: I have an unlocked, unbranded Samsung GT-i9300 that I purchased from Newegg back in the summer time and I have still yet to receive any sort of update (still on 4.0.4). Can someone explain to me the whole stock updates scenario? I would have thought buying an unlocked, unbranded phone I would have at least gotten updates faster than the Verizon S3. Now.. I know I can flash Cyanogenmod and be done with it. Which I have which leads me to the last question. What happens if I flash my phone with the 4.1.2 stock rom that was just released in Poland recently? Will it work? Why wouldn't it? Does the baseband really matter as far as compatibility? (PDA? CSC?)
Thank you for your time.
I answered my own questions. Thanks for looking
I was so excited I forgot to elaborate a little.
I was successfully able to root my phone using cf root / odin, install clockworkmod recovery, install cyanogenmod 10 then re-flash back to stock using triangleaway, and a stock rom from samsung firmware using odin.
I had thought I bricked my phone when it was in an endless loop on the splash screen but I was able to get into android recovery mod and do a format/wipe/clean cache. *phew*