[Q] Android Firewall Battery drain ? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello does Android Firewall ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5qdHNjaG9obC5hbmRyb2lkZmlyZXdhbGwiXQ.. )
has any battery drain ? I would like to block access to internet to some of my apps, but i read somewhere that LBE and other firewall like that is draining battery ..

tlf55 said:
Hello does Android Firewall ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5qdHNjaG9obC5hbmRyb2lkZmlyZXdhbGwiXQ.. )
has any battery drain ? I would like to block access to internet to some of my apps, but i read somewhere that LBE and other firewall like that is draining battery ..
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It could drain battery because its always running in the background and using resources. Anyways if you feel like the battery is draining much faster, check whether its breaking "Deep-Sleep", and you can check it by installing an app called CPUspy.

coolsandie said:
It could drain battery because its always running in the background and using resources. Anyways if you feel like the battery is draining much faster, check whether its breaking "Deep-Sleep", and you can check it by installing an app called CPUspy.
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as i said, LBE is battery draining because it's running background, but Android Firewall isn't running background , i read that it's just change the IPtable that being used by the application checked in the app ..
that's why i'm asking if Android Firewall (the app) is also draining battery.
Thanks for your answer by the way

tlf55 said:
as i said, LBE is battery draining because it's running background, but Android Firewall isn't running background , i read that it's just change the IPtable that being used by the application checked in the app ..
that's why i'm asking if Android Firewall (the app) is also draining battery.
Thanks for your answer by the way
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As it (Android Firewall) requires root, just try with care. Many users who installed LBE commented that, they got boot loop after they installed that app. So, I recommend reading some of the user comments and then going for Android Firewall.

tlf55 said:
Hello does Android Firewall ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5qdHNjaG9obC5hbmRyb2lkZmlyZXdhbGwiXQ.. )
has any battery drain ? I would like to block access to internet to some of my apps, but i read somewhere that LBE and other firewall like that is draining battery ..
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I know nothing about the specific app above, but a Firewall for Android do not need to drain the battery at all, since the actual firewall itself is a part of the Linux kernel, and the app only a tool to customize this built in firewall. I.e., even if the app is terminated, the firewall functionality still remains.
This said, such an app may load ad's, collect statistics, perform logging, play angry birds or whatever, consuming power. But not the firewall functionality itself.
(edit: how did I miss this was already answered. sorry 'bout that)

Does it mean that whatever is th firewall congif, it consumes th same battery?
Or does exist a "perfect " firewall config to prevent battery drain?
Thanks

mose_pe said:
Does it mean that whatever is th firewall congif, it consumes th same battery?
Or does exist a "perfect " firewall config to prevent battery drain?
Thanks
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Only indirectly. If you block a session, it will not use the radio, hence less power consumption. On the other hand, an app demanding network traffic, e.g. a mail client checking mail, may hinder the device to enter sleep mode, if forced to retry establishing the session due to the firewall keeps blocking it all the time. But the firewall rules by them self does not differ in power consumption.

I use Droidwall and it modifies the built in Linux iptables to prevent apps from accessing the internet. It only has to run once at startup to apply the rules and whenever you change something. So it uses a very small amount of battery.

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completely ban internet access to certain applicaitons

i have xperia sola ICS 4.0.4 ,
although we can restrict background data , but cant restrict wifi or foreground data ..
how do i restrict internet access completely to an application so that it doesn't automatically takes my precious internet data !!
blacklist or whitelist features ??
so ?? how to do this ??
Droidwall or something like Avast Mobile security with an in built firewalll.
As mentioned above, use Droidwall on your rooted phone...
"By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you, Man and Knife"
jr67 said:
Droidwall or something like Avast Mobile security with an in built firewalll.
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how's the battery consumption of this app , is it light on resources ??
i guess it will be like , apps continuously asking for internet and firewall will block it , hence more battery usage ??
rajeshjsl said:
how's the battery consumption of this app , is it light on resources ??
i guess it will be like , apps continuously asking for internet and firewall will block it , hence more battery usage ??
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No its very light on resources, Droidwall only needs to apply an iptables tweak when you start your phone or change settings. You can actually disable Droidwall and your settings will stick until the next reboot.
And root firewall is doig the same as droidwall
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Wakelocks increased drastically after rooting the galaxy s3

I used chainfires method of CF root to rpt my phone and the root was successful but wakelocks increased drastically after rooting
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[email protected] said:
I used chainfires method of CF root to rpt my phone and the root was successful but wakelocks increased drastically after rooting
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may be many apps running in the background?
wakelocks
My device is rooted and using root access almost all the bloatware has been frozen and I have very limited apps. I didn't have a wakelock problem before rooting but now my cpu wakes up at regular intervals of time and sometimes its on all the time ( even when the screen is off).
The apps that I have on my phone are
Opera mini
Temple run
Whatsapp
Viber
Superuser
Default Samsung browser
S memo
S planner
Gmail
music player ( default )
Calculator
Video player
Standard reply is use Better Battery Stats to find what wakelocks .
jje
wakelocks
I'm a student and I'm also unemployed so I can't actually afford paid apps .
I tried gsams a while ago. I didn't know what that specific app was so I just performed a hard reset
wakelock detector
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sriram231092 said:
many of us are students here buddy. not everyone will buy the paid apps. you have many ways to download paid apps for free
sent from my GT-I9300 running CM10.1 RC4.4 by Temasek
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Please remove this post warez is totally against XDA rules .
You are stealing from developers .
jje
wakelocks
I'll check out the Wakelock detector ASAP. Thanks!
did it.
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BetterBatteryStats
I just found out that there is a free version of BetterBatteryStats for xda members. downloaded and installed it.am following the instructions . . . but do any of you know how to interpret the observations?
hi dude,
if you have various system or user apps wakelocks , first do a monitoring it with your favorite battery monitor and analysis tool to details.
you can use traditional battery savers (i didn't recommend)
I do use greenify (paid app, but very good - the "engine" is different, doesn't kill or freeze, but hibernate system (need root) or users apps.
increase my battery and decrease unnecessary wakelocks ...
Wakelocks - read it ... enlight your questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Wakelocks
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats - thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
GSam Battery Monitor is a interesting free alternative... former badassbatterymonitor. It is available in Google Play (free)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
best regards,
BetterBatteryStats reading
I'm uploading my bbs reading. can you guys tell me what this means?
wakelocks
By looking at the task manager you can deduce that I have minimal number of applications running in the background and that all the bloatware has either been frozen removed of greenified.
and by looking at the battery graph you can conclude that I have wakelocks as the cpu doesn't go into deep sleep even when the screen is off
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I'm uploading my bbs reading. can you guys tell me what this means?
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hi
there was in you files, eg.
gtalk GTALK_ASYNC_CONN_com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.AndroidEndpoint
gmail com.google.android.gm.Gmail
high durations
look in settings the sync settings ... maybe adjust the sync ...
there was long wakelock time durations eg m_duration=74554
others wakes
m_name=DropboxCpuOnlyWakeLock, m_duration=48767
causes ... sync? look the dropbox settings
m_name=PhoneWindowManager.Broadcast WakeLock, m_duration=57822
localization apps related?
i did read for this and guys reported problems in volume buttom or others ... pressing or bump problems ... or (its hard to believe lol) leather cases that press buttons
Common tips - reference http://better.asksven.org/bbs-how-to/
"Following tips can help you reducing some causes of awake:
Turn your GPS off when not required to avoid apps using that expensive location source
When you are finished using an app close it with the "back" button. This will terminate it and avoid background management
Don't use any auto killer apps. If there are apps you don't want to be started or cached freeze them or configure their auto-start properly
Don't use and power saving tools like Juice Defender or Green Power: most apps do not behave properly when they can't use the data connection and will generate overhead by trying
If you don't need Wifi turn it off: in some cases Wifi is known to cause wakeups and an overhead in e.g. location services"
I recommend you try freeze these apps or greenify (my personal choice) ... or change the sync settings ... or uninstall apps
If this troubleshooting does not work ...
I do recommend install a latest firmware (your favorite ROM stock stock pre rooted or custom) ... wipe format etc ... etc ... etc
Do a backup user apps and data ... etc ...
best regards
wakelocks
I have one gmail account and sync is on for like 10 mins a day.
I do have a dropbox account but I haven't actually logged into the app using my phone.
I don't use a case or any other protection for my phone home and the volume buttons are seldom pressed.
gps is switched off almost all the time but the other two options in location setting are on.
I always use packet data.
I have also greenified all third party applications except whatsapp and all the stock apps that I don't use have been frozen.
thanks for helping!
( I get a standby time of around 17-20 hours with a minimum on screen time of 5 hours . stock rom and kernel)
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I have one gmail account and sync is on for like 10 mins a day.
I do have a dropbox account but I haven't actually logged into the app using my phone.
I don't use a case or any other protection for my phone home and the volume buttons are seldom pressed.
gps is switched off almost all the time but the other two options in location setting are on.
I always use packet data.
I have also greenified all third party applications except whatsapp and all the stock apps that I don't use have been frozen.
thanks for helping!
( I get a standby time of around 17-20 hours with a minimum on screen time of 5 hours . stock rom and kernel)
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yeah ... cool dude ...
i am very happy to try to help you ...
best regards
:fingers-crossed:

android security

Is there a way to know if an android phone have been hack or have a virus ?
smaug117 said:
Is there a way to know if an android phone have been hack or have a virus ?
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First and most notable sign of a hacked device is battrey drain- your device will drain a lot of battery unusually than before
Secondly you may see unnecessary ads over everything and everywhere on your device
Third- your data is been used more than usual(mostly it is the wifi data which is not originally readable but can be viewed with third party apps)
And last, you can check for any suspicious app in the all apps list(but it's not always visible- the app may be hidden sometimes)
Regards,
milkyway3

which apps should i hibernate?

i have this app but i dont know wich apps to hibernate, because people recommend to hibernate apps that you dont use but i kinda use a lot of apps , and if i use the magisk version can i hibernate apps without missing notifications?
THEwed123wet said:
i have this app but i dont know wich apps to hibernate, because people recommend to hibernate apps that you dont use but i kinda use a lot of apps , and if i use the magisk version can i hibernate apps without missing notifications?
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The only apps that need to be hibernated are those that frequently start or run in the background *and* consume significant resources. This is an infrequent occurrence on Android 6+ as doze keeps most bad actors in check. If you can not identify misbehaving apps there is little benefit to using Greenify.
so not even boost mode with the magisk module will make a difference?
THEwed123wet said:
so not even boost mode with the magisk module will make a difference?
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Just to add to @Davey126's true and clear statement: Most likely not.
As you're obviously using Greenify4Magisk, please allow me to partially quote its OP:
A very simple module just to make Greenify work as a rom-integrated (privileged) app systemlessly (also known as Boost Mode), ...
* Note: You won't get any xposed-side features, since magisk is NOT xposed!
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To ensure not to miss any notification, Greenify needs to run as a Xposed module.
How can you tell that an app constantly restarts in background?
crittarr said:
How can you tell that an app constantly restarts in background?
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Check to see if it (or related processes) are running and, more importantly, consuming excess resources. Built in tools are a starting point including the often ignored/maligned Android battery 'app' and the 'running processes' gadget usually located under developer options. Don't kill everything you see; just because it has a pulse doesn't mean it has to die (or be hibernated).
Can you name a third party root-free most reliable tool for telling how much energy apps drain?
I would be glad to know if apps are consuming excess resources but this is not told by the onboard android 7 tools I know of. If I go to battery more settings the most usage shows to be from android OS, bluetooth (headphones) and screen. Still making full (and probably excessive) use of tools like brevent or greenify does make the battery graph flatten noticeably.
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Can you name a third party root-free most reliable tool for telling how much energy apps drain?
I would be glad to know if apps are consuming excess resources but this is not told by the onboard android 7 tools I know of. If I go to battery more settings the most usage shows to be from android OS, bluetooth (headphones) and screen. Still making full (and probably excessive) use of tools like brevent or greenify does make the battery graph flatten noticeably.
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Built in tools are more than adequate but if you prefer 3rd party give GSAM a whirl as I find it easier to use than BBS (Better Battery Stats). Some also like Accubattery; too much flash and dash for my tastes. Good luck.

Help Setting Up Greenify 4.3.2.0 As It Looks Very Intimidating

I included a screenshot of all the options I'm given on the Greenify Settings tab. I've always avoided using Greenify because it seems very difficult to use; however, I keep hearing about all the miracles it does as far as battery life so I want to give it a chance.
My confusion comes from the fact that out of all the Tutorials, Reviews, Articles, etc. I've seen and read on YouTube & Google, everyone either has an older version of Greenify than me, or the options are a little different. Some versions have more options than mine, and some fewer. Some have specific settings enabled, some disabled.
For example, some tutorials said to enable Aggressive Doze and Automatic Hibernation, some said to disable them.
I would appreciate it very much if someone with more knowledge on the subject could explain to me what some of these settings do, and which would be better.
Merazomo said:
I included a screenshot of all the options I'm given on the Greenify Settings tab. I've always avoided using Greenify because it seems very difficult to use; however, I keep hearing about all the miracles it does as far as battery life so I want to give it a chance.
My confusion comes from the fact that out of all the Tutorials, Reviews, Articles, etc. I've seen and read on YouTube & Google, everyone either has an older version of Greenify than me, or the options are a little different. Some versions have more options than mine, and some fewer. Some have specific settings enabled, some disabled.
For example, some tutorials said to enable Aggressive Doze and Automatic Hibernation, some said to disable them.
I would appreciate it very much if someone with more knowledge on the subject could explain to me what some of these settings do, and which would be better.
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Which version of Android are you running? If 7,8 or 9, most likely you will not need Greenify since Android itself handles the apps very well. Only apps which could not be controlled by Android and which drain battery excessively need control through Greenify or some similar app. Doze in these versions of Android is very capable.
If you want to know something more about this, search for posts from member Davey126 in https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/greenify/beta-greenify-3-1-build-1-1-23-2017-t3544311 thread.
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Which version of Android are you running? If 7,8 or 9, most likely you will not need Greenify since Android itself handles the apps very well. Only apps which could not be controlled by Android and which drain battery excessively need control through Greenify or some similar app. Doze in these versions of Android is very capable.
If you want to know something more about this, search for posts from member Davey126 in https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/greenify/beta-greenify-3-1-build-1-1-23-2017-t3544311 thread.
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@tnsmani obviously received my check ...
Kidding aside, his guidance is spot on. If you decide to experiment further ignore all the options. They are largely refinements; defaults are fine for most. Simply respond to initial setup prompts (including the all important 'root' query), add 'offending' apps to the watch list and observe whether Greenify helps to reduce background activity.
Wait...you don't have any "offending" apps, do not know how to identify bad actors have no idea if you actually have a problem with excessive (operative word) battery consumption?? If so Greenify will only work as well as your perception of good/evil/impotent which is often an inaccurate measure of reality.
Sadly, Greenify does not have magical powers. That said, It is an effective tool to address a specific type of 'problem': reining in undisciplined app driven background activity...plus a few other gems outside the scope of this discussion. If your device is rocking Android 6/7/8/9/27 native doze does a fine job managing cranky apps that want to eat your battery any small children within a 10 foot radius. Best part: no confusing knobs and dials! It just works.
Enjoy your device.
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Which version of Android are you running? If 7,8 or 9, most likely you will not need Greenify since Android itself handles the apps very well. Only apps which could not be controlled by Android and which drain battery excessively need control through Greenify or some similar app. Doze in these versions of Android is very capable.
If you want to know something more about this, search for posts from member Davey126 in https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/greenify/beta-greenify-3-1-build-1-1-23-2017-t3544311 thread.
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I'll definitely give that post by Davey126 a read, thanks.
I'm using a Galaxy Note 4 with Android Marshmallow 6.0.1. The phone is not officially supported anymore obviously, but with ROOT, it's still a great phone even today.
My only issue that made me consider Greenify; I don't know if this is typical of Android, is that I charge my phone to 100% before I go to sleep, and when I wake up it's at 86%. The battery is brand new and the phone has been restored to factory settings to start fresh.
Davey126 said:
@tnsmani obviously received my check ...
Kidding aside, his guidance is spot on. If you decide to experiment further ignore all the options. They are largely refinements; defaults are fine for most. Simply respond to initial setup prompts (including the all important 'root' query), add 'offending' apps to the watch list and observe whether Greenify helps to reduce background activity.
Wait...you don't have any "offending" apps, do not know how to identify bad actors have no idea if you actually have a problem with excessive (operative word) battery consumption?? If so Greenify will only work as well as your perception of good/evil/impotent which is often an inaccurate measure of reality.
Sadly, Greenify does not have magical powers. That said, It is an effective tool to address a specific type of 'problem': reining in undisciplined app driven background activity...plus a few other gems outside the scope of this discussion. If your device is rocking Android 6/7/8/9/27 native doze does a fine job managing cranky apps that want to eat your battery any small children within a 10 foot radius. Best part: no confusing knobs and dials! It just works.
Enjoy your device.
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The screenshot I posted are the default settings as of now for my version of 4.3.2.0 of Greenify on my Galaxy Note 4. Would it be okay to assume that if I leave "these" settings on default without changing anything, and all I do is start choosing application to hibernate that I don't use often or don't need push notifications from, it's a good start?
I do have to choose applications manually for Greenify to start working right? I keep looking at all these "Smart Hibernation" & "Automatic Hibernation" settings and my brain goes back to regular applications like the old App Managers that would start working in the background without me settings anything up or choosing applications.
I'll give your post a read as well, and see if I can learn something from it. For once, I wish I had an Android phone with good battery life like my last iPhone; it wouldn't loose any charge overnight. Loosing 14% battery life overnight without doing anything is a little annoying, but now that I've tried Android with ROOT, it's practically imposible to go back to IOS; specially with all the customizing I can do on my Note 4.
Merazomo said:
I'll definitely give that post by Davey126 a read, thanks.
I'm using a Galaxy Note 4 with Android Marshmallow 6.0.1. The phone is not officially supported anymore obviously, but with ROOT, it's still a great phone even today.
My only issue that made me consider Greenify; I don't know if this is typical of Android, is that I charge my phone to 100% before I go to sleep, and when I wake up it's at 86%. The battery is brand new and the phone has been restored to factory settings to start fresh.
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On 6, you may require the help of Greenify but only after you identify the rogue app/s. Unless you sleep for 24 hours a day, your idle drain is high (14% during sleep).
Visit the BBS thread, learn how to create an idle dump, install latest BBS beta from the PlayStore, take an idle dump and post it in the BBS thread and ask for help.
Merazomo said:
The screenshot I posted are the default settings as of now for my version of 4.3.2.0 of Greenify on my Galaxy Note 4. Would it be okay to assume that if I leave "these" settings on default without changing anything, and all I do is start choosing application to hibernate that I don't use often or don't need push notifications from, it's a good start?
I do have to choose applications manually for Greenify to start working right? I keep looking at all these "Smart Hibernation" & "Automatic Hibernation" settings and my brain goes back to regular applications like the old App Managers that would start working in the background without me settings anything up or choosing applications.
I'll give your post a read as well, and see if I can learn something from it. For once, I wish I had an Android phone with good battery life like my last iPhone; it wouldn't loose any charge overnight. Loosing 14% battery life overnight without doing anything is a little annoying, but now that I've tried Android with ROOT, it's practically imposible to go back to IOS; specially with all the customizing I can do on my Note 4.
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Reread previous post. Your first task is to identify which app(s), if any, are draining your battery while the device is idle. Adding apps to Greenify w/o justification is a fools errand and will likely increase overall power consumption vs reduce it. Let's keep it simple. What apps regularly appear near the top of the list in Android's battery page in settings?
There are very few "new" batteries for 4 year old devices. While you many have purchased it recently there is a very good chance it sat on the shelf for several years. Or was 'loaded' with substandard cells with less than stated capacity.
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Reread previous post. Your first task is to identify which app(s), if any, are draining your battery while the device is idle. Adding apps to Greenify w/o justification is a fools errand and will likely increase overall power consumption vs reduce it. Let's keep it simple. What apps regularly appear near the top of the list in Android's battery page in settings?
There are very few "new" batteries for 4 year old devices. While you many have purchased it recently there is a very good chance it sat on the shelf for several years. Or was 'loaded' with substandard cells with less than stated capacity.
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The battery is good since I was still using Lollipop LOL not that long on my Note 4, and I felt it ran a lot cooler and battery would last longer than on Marshmallow, but app permissions were horrible in Lollipop; I had no control of my privacy whatsoever with apps.
The only top app on my battery apps list with 20% of the battery used overnight was ESPN. I don't even have push notifications enabled for this app, and I used it hours before I went to sleep and before I charged the phone. That might be the app that is harming my battery life. All the other apps are at 0.04% or less.
Merazomo said:
The battery is good since I was still using Lollipop LOL not that long on my Note 4, and I felt it ran a lot cooler and battery would last longer than on Marshmallow, but app permissions were horrible in Lollipop; I had no control of my privacy whatsoever with apps.
The only top app on my battery apps list with 20% of the battery used overnight was ESPN. I don't even have push notifications enabled for this app, and I used it hours before I went to sleep and before I charged the phone. That might be the app that is harming my battery life. All the other apps are at 0.04% or less.
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ESPN app would be an excellent candidate to Greenify. Add it to the 'watch' list and observe device behavior over 24-48 hours.
Davey126 said:
ESPN app would be an excellent candidate to Greenify. Add it to the 'watch' list and observe device behavior over 24-48 hours.
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Everything is as you said. Greenify's default settings are more than satisfying, specially since all I wanted to do was to find the culprit that was killing my battery.
After using BetterBatteryStats & Greenify, it turns out "ESPN" and "Samsung Peel Remote Control" are both using more battery life overnight as I sleep, than the "System" itself.
ESPN behaves as it should when I hibernate it; however, Samsung's Peel Remote wakes up overnight; it won't stay hibernated.
I've been trying to use the scissor's icon to prevent other apps from waking the Peel Remote, but it gives me a failed message.
At least now I know that my problem is not the battery or the phone.
Merazomo said:
... however, Samsung's Peel Remote wakes up overnight; it won't stay hibernated.
I've been trying to use the scissor's icon to prevent other apps from waking the Peel Remote, but it gives me a failed message.
At least now I know that my problem is not the battery or the phone.
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Me thinks you should consider another app:
https://fossbytes.com/peel-remote-use-remove-smart-remote/
There are ways to tame the monster using perfectly legal advanced tools (MAT, SD Maid, etc.) but such discussion is beyond the scope of this thread.
Davey126 said:
Me thinks you should consider another app:
https://fossbytes.com/peel-remote-use-remove-smart-remote/
There are ways to tame the monster using perfectly legal advanced tools (MAT, SD Maid, etc.) but such discussion is beyond the scope of this thread.
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I though I was the only one struggling with these apps. I installed an app that called AFWall+ though, that blocks Internet/Data access to the Peel Remote. I no longer get that annoying TV Guide, Ads, or VOD recommendations; just the ability to use it as a normal remote.
The last 3 days, I've only lost 5% battery life overnight with the Greenify & AFWall+ combination. If that keeps up, it's as good as it is going to get for me. If it changes back to 14%, I'm just going to uninstall Peel.
Merazomo said:
I though I was the only one struggling with these apps. I installed an app that called AFWall+ though, that blocks Internet/Data access to the Peel Remote. I no longer get that annoying TV Guide, Ads, or VOD recommendations; just the ability to use it as a normal remote.
The last 3 days, I've only lost 5% battery life overnight with the Greenify & AFWall+ combination. If that keeps up, it's as good as it is going to get for me. If it changes back to 14%, I'm just going to uninstall Peel.
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A software firewall (preferably VPN based) is an excellent way to block unwanted content and network communications including ads, tracking uploads and/or malicious downloads. I run some type of software firewall on every device I own. As for idle drain rates, I average 0.15-0.25%/hr on WiFi only tablets; 0.4-0.6%/hr on phones. Pretty consistent range regardless of brand, ROM or other variables. Greenify, which I use sparingly, is the only non-native power management tool in my arsenal. No silly alarm/wakelock squashing, doze tuners, etc. Mind your settings, behaviors and app portfolio. Pretty simple stuff. Depressing news for budding geeks with too much time on their hands.
Merazomo said:
I though I was the only one struggling with these apps. I installed an app that called AFWall+ though, that blocks Internet/Data access to the Peel Remote. I no longer get that annoying TV Guide, Ads, or VOD recommendations; just the ability to use it as a normal remote.
The last 3 days, I've only lost 5% battery life overnight with the Greenify & AFWall+ combination. If that keeps up, it's as good as it is going to get for me. If it changes back to 14%, I'm just going to uninstall Peel.
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First and most important, it's exactly as @Davey126 stated directly above. Second in order to support your decision: For many years now, I use Greenify and AFWall+ Pro, and I confirm your observation. All of our telephones (we don't own an Android tablet etc.) achieve overnight battery drainages between 0.5 - 0.7%/h including network connection and some non-greenified apps. In airplane mode the drainage decreases to 0.2 - 0.3%/h. For quite some time till about a year ago, I also used tools like Amplify, PowerNap etc. until I realised it makes no sense to try to turn on these knobs i.e. to fight effects but not the causes - and more important I didn't gain any battery life by their utilisation.
BTW: If you're interested in trying a different firewall, NetGuard by M66B, very well known among all users interested in privacy, is an interesting alternative. Based on VPN and no-root required. The only reason why I stay with AFWall+ Pro and don't switch to NetGuard is Android's inherent limitation to only allow one VPN tunnel at a time. And as I always enable my own secure VPN connection with my RaspberryPi in our home network before I connect to mobile data or a foreign WiFi, I can't use NetGuard.
Oswald Boelcke said:
First and most important, it's exactly as @Davey126 stated directly above. Second in order to support your decision: For many years now, I use Greenify and AFWall+ Pro, and I confirm your observation. All of our telephones (we don't own an Android tablet etc.) achieve overnight battery drainages between 0.5 - 0.7%/h including network connection and some non-greenified apps. In airplane mode the drainage decreases to 0.2 - 0.3%/h. For quite some time till about a year ago, I also used tools like Amplify, PowerNap etc. until I realised it makes no sense to try to turn on these knobs i.e. to fight effects but not the causes - and more important I didn't gain any battery life by their utilisation.
BTW: If you're interested in trying a different firewall, NetGuard by M66B, very well known among all users interested in privacy, is an interesting alternative. Based on VPN and no-root required. The only reason why I stay with AFWall+ Pro and don't switch to NetGuard is Android's inherent limitation to only allow one VPN tunnel at a time. And as I always enable my own secure VPN connection with my RaspberryPi in our home network before I connect to mobile data or a foreign WiFi, I can't use NetGuard.
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Yeah, after doing much research online, it came down to NetGuard - NoRoot Firewall - Droidwall(now Avast) - Afwall+.
I chose Afwall+ because it seemed easier to use. The other apps seem more customizable if you know what you're doing, but for what I needed Afwall+ is more of a "click and save" type of app.
Davey126 said:
A software firewall (preferably VPN based) is an excellent way to block unwanted content and network communications including ads, tracking uploads and/or malicious downloads. I run some type of software firewall on every device I own. As for idle drain rates, I average 0.15-0.25%/hr on WiFi only tablets; 0.4-0.6%/hr on phones. Pretty consistent range regardless of brand, ROM or other variables. Greenify, which I use sparingly, is the only non-native power management tool in my arsenal. No silly alarm/wakelock squashing, doze tuners, etc. Mind your settings, behaviors and app portfolio. Pretty simple stuff. Depressing news for budding geeks with too much time on their hands.
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Curiosity bricked a few of my phones over the years LOL. I guess it's human nature.
Reading through a bunch of threads when I still didn't know what Greenify was, there were a few discussions about being able to get "push notifications" when an app was still in hibernation.
How much truth is there to those statements? I have Instagram, Messenger, Facebook, etc. installed on my phone not because I use them constantly, but because it's the easier/cheaper way for my family to contact me.
It would be great to be able to hibernate all those apps, and still know when my family is trying to contact me, even if I have to manually hibernate the apps again afterwards.
Or did I read too much into it and mixed things up?
Merazomo said:
Curiosity bricked a few of my phones over the years LOL. I guess it's human nature.
Reading through a bunch of threads when I still didn't know what Greenify was, there were a few discussions about being able to get "push notifications" when an app was still in hibernation.
How much truth is there to those statements? I have Instagram, Messenger, Facebook, etc. installed on my phone not because I use them constantly, but because it's the easier/cheaper way for my family to contact me.
It would be great to be able to hibernate all those apps, and still know when my family is trying to contact me, even if I have to manually hibernate the apps again afterwards.
Or did I read too much into it and mixed things up?
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Push notifications work with some Greenifed apps (must be GCM capable) but may be delayed by minutes/hours depending on Greenify settings, app design, GCM capabilities, availability of Xposed framework, timing of doze maintenance windows and a bunch of other variables. Best way to assess with your app portfolio is to try.

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