Hi all,
a Developer rom is available in navifirm right now
Release:1232.2110.1244.3002
Product Code: RM-821_ROW_DeveloperDevice_VAR251040_Black_v2_Black
ellokomen said:
Hi all,
a Developer rom is available in navifirm right now
Release:1232.2110.1244.3002
Product Code: RM-821_ROW_DeveloperDevice_VAR251040_Black_v2_Black
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Hi Ellokomen.
Probably a stupid question, but what are the advantages of a developer ROM?
The Developer ROM has been there since at least November (as that's when I downloaded it)...
I don't know how significant it is, but there was never a Portico version of the Developer ROM before they were all pulled so it doesn't appear it's first on the list for updates if that is what you were thinking.
GrahamWager said:
The Developer ROM has been there since at least November (as that's when I downloaded it)...
I don't know how significant it is, but there was never a Portico version of the Developer ROM before they were all pulled so it doesn't appear it's first on the list for updates if that is what you were thinking.
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The portico version of the developer ROM is now available (see 1232.5951.1249.1002 - RM-821 VAR EURO1 Developer Device).
But again: what would be the advantage of flashing that to my phone?!?
Can the Developer rom side load apps?
Manoli87 said:
Can the Developer rom side load apps?
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+1 ... please explain can it? or can the dev rom atleast have access to root system of the phone?
Manoli87 said:
Can the Developer rom side load apps?
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+1 me too...just downloading...is safe to flash this ROM?
I think it would help to remove the internet sharing block on AT&T and rogers phones.
Has anyone tried to flash this RM-821 ROM onto a RM-820 device? I know that technically they are different phones but you could flash the RM-819 (Lumia 800) onto a RM-801 without issue aside from perhaps a missing 3G band. But the 820/821 have exactly the same 3G bands just different LTE (which I don't care about) so it shouldn't be an issue right?
voluptuary said:
Has anyone tried to flash this RM-821 ROM onto a RM-820 device? I know that technically they are different phones but you could flash the RM-819 (Lumia 800) onto a RM-801 without issue aside from perhaps a missing 3G band. But the 820/821 have exactly the same 3G bands just different LTE (which I don't care about) so it shouldn't be an issue right?
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I flashed this rom on my att lumia and everything seems to work fine. Only thing is I can't tell if my LTE isn't working tho b/c I don't live in an LTE market.
patrick92260 said:
I flashed this rom on my att lumia and everything seems to work fine. Only thing is I can't tell if my LTE isn't working tho b/c I don't live in an LTE market.
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Perfect, thanks! I also don't live in an LTE market so I could give two sh!ts about the LTE working or not but removing all the att crap is a must for me.
patrick92260 said:
I flashed this rom on my att lumia and everything seems to work fine. Only thing is I can't tell if my LTE isn't working tho b/c I don't live in an LTE market.
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That's odd because when I tried to flash the RM-820 ATT Firmware to my international RM-821 Lumia Nokia Care Suite said that it's for a different model (or sthg like that) and then aborted the flashing process. This left my phone "soft bricked" - meaning that I had to re-flash it with a RM-821 ROM to get it working again.
I wonder if this Dev ROM might actually be a RM-820 ROM that is only (by mistake) labeled as RM-821?????
Has anyone tried to flash it to a RM-821 international model yet? Because from what I know the only Dev phones were RM-820 models and that always left me wondering why there is a Dev ROM for RM-821 but non for RM-820 when on the other hand there are only RM-820 Dev phones but no RM-821 dev phones.
karlmueller said:
That's odd because when I tried to flash the RM-820 ATT Firmware to my international RM-821 Lumia Nokia Care Suite said that it's for a different model (or sthg like that) and then aborted the flashing process. This left my phone "soft bricked" - meaning that I had to re-flash it with a RM-821 ROM to get it working again.
I wonder if this Dev ROM might actually be a RM-820 ROM that is only (by mistake) labeled as RM-821?????
Has anyone tried to flash it to a RM-821 international model yet? Because from what I know the only Dev phones were RM-820 models and that always left me wondering why there is a Dev ROM for RM-821 but non for RM-820 when on the other hand there are only RM-820 Dev phones but no RM-821 dev phones.
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It's not mistakenly mislabeled b/c nokia care suite now identifies my att lumia as a RM-821 (originally RM-820) and now in extras+info the manufacturer model name is RM-821_eu_euro1_425 so it's obviously designed as a european rom.
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It's not mistakenly mislabeled b/c nokia care suite now identifies my att lumia as a RM-821 (originally RM-820) and now in extras+info the manufacturer model name is RM-821_eu_euro1_425 so it's obviously designed as a european rom.
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Well this makes me wonder whether RM-820 and RM-821 might actually be the exact same phone hardware wise with only some (artificial) lock preventing cross-flashing between those variants ...
Would be interesting whether you could flash other non-developer RM-821 ROMs to your RM-820 now and also if you could still flash it back to an RM-820 AT&T or Rogers ROM.
product id incorrect
patrick92260 said:
I flashed this rom on my att lumia and everything seems to work fine. Only thing is I can't tell if my LTE isn't working tho b/c I don't live in an LTE market.
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i would like to know how to flash this room to my lumia cause every time i get the same wrong product id error message , can u tell us how u did it please , i live in california and i always get Lte
@alfaro58
Did you try it using the latest version of Nokia Care Suite?
@patrick92260
Which product code does Nokia Care Suite show for your phone now? The original AT&T one or the one for the RM-821 Developer ROM?
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@alfaro58
Did you try it using the latest version of Nokia Care Suite?
@patrick92260
Which product code does Nokia Care Suite show for your phone now? The original AT&T one or the one for the RM-821 Developer ROM?
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it show Rm-820 and the version of noki care suite that i have is 5.0.2012.45.4.5 , i dont know if this is the latest version , i was trying to see if there's a new updated but the check for new updated button in disable , any idea ?
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@alfaro58
Did you try it using the latest version of Nokia Care Suite?
@patrick92260
Which product code does Nokia Care Suite show for your phone now? The original AT&T one or the one for the RM-821 Developer ROM?
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It shows the product code for the RM-821 dev rom and identifies it as RM-821.
edit: looked at the wrong place for the product code. It still has the original ATT product code but NCS still identifies it as an rm-821
I just tried to flash my att Lumia several times but just get the phone bricked and flashed back to att rom
Sent from my RM-820_nam_att_100 using Board Express
Oddly the update menu entry is grayed out for me too but you can download a later version here:
http://www.seidea.com/2013/01/03/nokia-care-suite-pst-5-0-2012-51-4-4/
(don't forget to uninstall the old version before installing the new one!)
What @patrick92260 said about his phone now being identified as RM-821 and even with the Developer phone's product code makes it seem like he did not only flash the phone to a different ROM (with keeping the phone's original identity [model, product code] intact) but he also somehow managed to overwrite the part that holds those "phone identity information" with the ones of the Dev phone.
Maybe this has sthg to do with the version of NCS being used:
-the old version just flashed the ROM but didn't touch the "phone identity information", it allowed to flash to a different product code but refused to flash to a different model (RM-821/RM-820) and even after flashing to a different product code the phone still had it's original product code
-now the new version on the other hand might not only flash the ROM but might also overwrite the "phone identity information" with the ones of the ROM you are flashing and is thereby effectively changing the phones "identity" (model, product code) to the one of the ROM you're flashing.
This is just a theory of mine but when summing up the facts that:
-a few weeks ago I was unable to flash my RM-821 to an AT&T Portico ROM and now @alfaro58 tried it the other way round (flashing his RM-820 with an RM-821 ROM) and we both ended up "soft bricking" our phones and had to re-flash them with the "correct" model's firmware to un-brick them
-a few months ago sb tried to unbrand his Roges RM-820 by flashing an RM-821 ROM and he also ended up soft-bricking it and then had to wait for a few days until a RM-820 ROM became available on Navifirm before he could unbrick his phone by flashing one of those
[email protected] now basically did the same thing that other guy did a a few months ago (flashing an RM-820 with an RM-821 ROM) but instead of soft-bricking his phone it seems that he even managed to not only flash it with an RM-821 ROM but to actually make it an RM-821 phone.
All these facts kinda lead me to that assumption that it might have sthg to do with that new Nokia Care Suite version that was released earlier this month.
If I still had that buggy pre-Portico ROM on my Lumia I wouldn't hesitate trying to flash my RM-821 to a Rogers or AT&T ROM (because those seem to be first in line when it comes to updates - or at least they were this time) but with my phone now working perfectly with that RM-821 Entel ROM and me having several exams during the next few days I'm really not going to wipe my perfectly working phone just to prove this theory right or wrong - I hope you understand that.
@patrick92260 Which version of Nokia Care Suite did you use?
@alfaro58 Maybe you want to install the new NCS version and then try to flash your phone with the RM-821 firmware again using that updated NCS version?
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Hey guys, just wondering if I'm SOL.
I was going to wait for the official update, but I noticed last night that I have over 8GB used by "Other" and thought it might be a good time to factory reset my phone. If I'm going to do that, I might as well install 7.8 right?
So I started looking into installing 7.8 and noticed that there are no Telus/Canada versions of 1750.823.8858.12460 in Navifirm. Is there another version I can use without bricking my phone?
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Hey guys, just wondering if I'm SOL.
I was going to wait for the official update, but I noticed last night that I have over 8GB used by "Other" and thought it might be a good time to factory reset my phone. If I'm going to do that, I might as well install 7.8 right?
So I started looking into installing 7.8 and noticed that there are no Telus/Canada versions of 1750.823.8858.12460 in Navifirm. Is there another version I can use without bricking my phone?
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You should be able to use any version on your phone including RM-801 variants. I have the Telus model and I have experimented in the past with other firmwares. Keep in mind that if your phone has been unlocked it will re-lock after flashing a new firmware, so make sure you have the code.
Are the radios effected in doing this though?
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Are the radios effected in doing this though?
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RM-801 are 900mhz and RM-819 are 850mhz. This is based upon the hardware not software, so if your phone is RM-819 and you put 801 firmware on it it will still be 850mhz.
I have a Nokia Lumia 800 Black Telus, I have been using it unlocked in the states. Anyway, I flashed the RM 801 APAC black version and it kept my phone unlocked. I have been using it for a couple weeks no problem.
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RM-801 are 900mhz and RM-819 are 850mhz. This is based upon the hardware not software, so if your phone is RM-819 and you put 801 firmware on it it will still be 850mhz.
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Ok cool, I'm still more used to Android where you can mess with the radios and connectivity a bit.
Thanks for the help .
theusername said:
I have a Nokia Lumia 800 Black Telus, I have been using it unlocked in the states. Anyway, I flashed the RM 801 APAC black version and it kept my phone unlocked. I have been using it for a couple weeks no problem.
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That is good to know. Every other past firmware I have tried has re-simlocked the phone.
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are you booting to the recovery mode? if not, this could get you past the product ID check
of course the the firmware should have at least the version that you've installed atm. or higher...
HELP!!!
636_Castle said:
So a while back I downloaded a ROM to get GDR2 on to my AT&T Lumia 920 (RM-820). It rebranded my device to an RM-821. Now I'm unable to flash the stock RM-820 ROM in NCS obviously, because it tells me the ROM I'm trying to flash is for a different kind of device.
Is it now impossible to revert to the stock RM-820 firmware?
Edit:
It seems the problem only occurs when trying to flash to the AT&T firmware, but other RM-820 firmwares work fine. Solved.
Edit 2: It STILL seems it failed some sort of a product ID check when going from the Rogers ROM to the AT&T ROM despite them both being RM-820. That sucks.
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Hi Mate, I was wondering if you could show me the thread where you can learn to Change the ROM from the 920. I want to flash my local carier's ROM over the AT&T, cus eventhough my AT&T 920 is unlocked, LTE doesn't work at all, only once did, but when I go back to USA, LTE works fine either on AT&T or T-Mobile. So my logic is that if I change the ROM, LTE will work because somehow, this ROM is blocking it and I know RM-820 works with LTE bands 1900 and AWS.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Cheers.
I'm still able to go to recovery mode. So because of this, I can't go back to rm-820? Is there any other way around this?
what happened?
So what happened? i have the same issue went to rm821 and have issues with returning to RM820
Hy,
I updated to Win 10 dev prev my black Lumia 920 ( i know, bad idea) and when trying to revert to 8.1 , both the Windows Phone Recovery Tool and the Lumia Software Recovery tool can't find any packages for my phone. I bought it on amazon, a factory unlocked global variant, when i first booted it was on Chinese, read it was from hong kong in the about section.
The strange part is that the lumia software shows the model as 059L848 , which according to a product list on gsmhosting forums( just google it, sadly I can't put links) is an AT&T RM-820 phone, but it also says on the lumia suite that it's a RM-821. I can confirm it's an RM-821 cause that's what it says under the sim
Does my product code actually exists? I mean, 059L848 with RM-821?
The main question is, can I flash another rom? Maybe 059Q5C6 RM-821 GLOBAL BLACK SWAP will work?
Looked a bit more in the list of roms and there's only one RM-821 from hong kong black, the rom 059Q805 RM-821 VAR APAC HK CV BLACK
Will leave it downloading, anyone could at least say they think it could work? Don't want to flash blind, while it's not fully working with windows 10 preview, at least is working. Don't want to brick it.
Anyone? I still haven't tried to flash that ROM, just in case.
Just found out that on the box it says 059Q805 as product code, so will flash that ROM and say how it goes.
Well, it worked perfectly. Back with 8.1 now
Hi everyone, so im trying to flash a specific ROM to my Lumia 920. the problem is that its seems that navifirm is not working anymore, and as far as i know that is the only way to get the files for flashing.
any idea of whats going on?
I really need to flash this ROM to my phone
Thx.
PS: the product code is 059R984 RM-820 VAR AMERICA PE CLARO SL BLACK
Threx71 said:
Hi everyone, so im trying to flash a specific ROM to my Lumia 920. the problem is that its seems that navifirm is not working anymore, and as far as i know that is the only way to get the files for flashing.
any idea of whats going on?
I really need to flash this ROM to my phone
Thx.
PS: the product code is 059R984 RM-820 VAR AMERICA PE CLARO SL BLACK
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Hi,
NaviFirm+ has some problems. You want flash 059R984?
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Hi,
NaviFirm+ has some problems. You want flash 059R984?
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Hi, yes I want to flash that ROM because I'm trying to enable AWS band on my 920 (RM-821). I've been reading a lot about this, and not many people have tried this process, but i read that flashing a specific rom that uses the 1700-2100 band (RM-820) you can then enable AWS on an RM-821. the problem most people had is that they dont know wich ROM have LTE AWS enabled. I found an article on a Perubian online newspaper where the goverment said that the lumia models being sell there were compatible with the AWS LTE band. So i want to try it.
thx for the answer, any idea of when will it work again?
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Hi, yes I want to flash that ROM because I'm trying to enable AWS band on my 920 (RM-821). I've been reading a lot about this, and not many people have tried this process, but i read that flashing a specific rom that uses the 1700-2100 band (RM-820) you can then enable AWS on an RM-821. the problem most people had is that they dont know wich ROM have LTE AWS enabled. I found an article on a Perubian online newspaper where the goverment said that the lumia models being sell there were compatible with the AWS LTE band. So i want to try it.
thx for the answer, any idea of when will it work again?
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You *may* get a FFU signature error, that prevent you to flash this RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device. If you will not get a FFU signature error and that the flash of this RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device works, it *may* that your RM-821 Lumia device loses some networks bands.
If you want to flash RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device, with my tutorial, here is the FFU file of 059R984 in the currently the latest release: http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fds_..._RETAIL_lta_peru_299_04_383225_prd_signed.ffu
Sorry for my disturb. Will Navifirm Plus work again? I need to download a firmware for my Lumia 1020 RM-875 (059T9Z4 is the product code) but I can't do anything. Thank you for help. Also sorry for writing on lumia 920 Q&A, I saw the title "Navifirm not working..."
Kaptaiin said:
You *may* get a FFU signature error, that prevent you to flash this RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device. If you will not get a FFU signature error and that the flash of this RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device works, it *may* that your RM-821 Lumia device loses some networks bands.
If you want to flash RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device, with my tutorial, here is the FFU file of 059R984 in the currently the latest release: http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fds_..._RETAIL_lta_peru_299_04_383225_prd_signed.ffu
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m8, tnx A LOT for the help. i just flashed the rom and im testing it. can you send me the link for other 2 as well? i need to have the original one and another one to test :v Thanks again ^^
Product codes:
059R7X1 this is the original one
059R4H6 this one is another that works with the AWS band
Kaptaiin said:
You *may* get a FFU signature error, that prevent you to flash this RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device. If you will not get a FFU signature error and that the flash of this RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device works, it *may* that your RM-821 Lumia device loses some networks bands.
If you want to flash RM-820 ROM on your RM-821 Lumia device, with my tutorial, here is the FFU file of 059R984 in the currently the latest release: http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fds_..._RETAIL_lta_peru_299_04_383225_prd_signed.ffu
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I just tested the ROM, with service menu i managed to see wich bands was accepting: 1,3,7,8,20 and the one i need is the band 4 -_-
im going to try by flashing the other rom I asked you for. but if navifirm+ doesnt work again, I'd like to ask you for other ROMs to follow this tutorial. if is too mucho work dont worry I can wait, the only one I really need to have is the original one (on the other quote).
Thanks again.
here is the tutorial with the ROMs
Originally Posted by dullerm
To follow up my previous post: after flashing some more, I managed to enable the AWS band on my AT&T Lumia 920. Unless T-Mobile lit up a 1900 tower just in the few minutes that the phone was rebooting after flashing GLOBAL BLACK SWAP, I am certain that I can now use 3G on AWS with it. For those who are interested, here is what I did to my AT&T Lumia 920:
start off with a Portico AT&T ROM (OTA-updated a few weeks ago on the still locked phone)
remove SIM unlock with AT&T provided unlock code
flash pre-Portico Rogers ROM
OTA-update to Portico Rogers ROM
flash Portico EURO1 DEV ROM (RM-821!)
flash Portico Rogers ROM
flash Portico LTA1 MX ROM
flash Portico GLOBAL BLACK SWAP ROM (RM-821!) ---> saw H, H+ indicator after this!!!
flash Portico Rogers ROM ---> 4G indicator
While flashing the LTA1 MX ROM (the Latin America ROMs are nicely debranded RM-820 ROMs but don't support LTE, at least in their cellular settings for highest connection speed), I decided for whatever reason to just give another RM-821 ROM a try and went for the GLOBAL BLACK SWAP. Maybe flashing EURO1 DEV again would have also done the trick as well and just flashing back and forth somehow enabled AWS. I don't know exactly what caused it but I am happy AWS works on the AT&T Lumia 920. This phone now certainly is the Überphone
and here the one with the product codes
Flash to Pre-Portico Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.2109.1242.1002_039
OTA Update to Rogers ROM (1308)
Flash to European Developer ROM: RM821_059R4H6_1232.5957.1308.0002_027
Flash to Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
Flash to Global Black Swap ROM: RM821_059Q5C6_1232.5951.1249.1004_044 (No H/H+ as claimed by others, LTE disappeared from network options)
Flash to Rogers ROM: RM820_059Q6W4_1232.5962.1314.0000_156
Cristiano90 said:
Sorry for my disturb. Will Navifirm Plus work again? I need to download a firmware for my Lumia 1020 RM-875 (059T9Z4 is the product code) but I can't do anything. Thank you for help. Also sorry for writing on lumia 920 Q&A, I saw the title "Navifirm not working..."
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Hi,
059T9Z4
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Threx71 said:
m8, tnx A LOT for the help. i just flashed the rom and im testing it. can you send me the link for other 2 as well? i need to have the original one and another one to test :v Thanks again ^^
Product codes:
059R7X1 this is the original one
059R4H6 this one is another that works with the AWS band
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- 059R7X1
- 059R4H6
Same problem
I've tried using Navifirm but it's not working.
Hi guys,
Could post link for my 059N5T3 please?
sukinsyn said:
Hi guys,
Could post link for my 059N5T3 please?
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Hi,
059N5T3
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Thanks!
Just I have same - updated yesterday.
Don't like new Windows 10 on my Lumia 920.
Now trying already half of the day to downgrade to Windows 8/8.1
Have experience with Android - it was easy.
With my AT&T Lumia 920 it's a pain in the neck.
Hello,
I am new on the site and thank you in advance for all your help. My problem is this:
I bought Lumia 920 in USA in AT&T. It was unlocked phone to work with any SIM card. I have noticed that I do not have 4g speed on my phone and I do have carrier which supports 4g. Now I see in other topics that I have wrong rom. It is for USA. My current Rom is rm-820 and I see that I need rm-821. Ok, thats fine I can flash my phone and it should work. But, every topic, every page that I found on Google doesn't work. To be more precise topics do work but I can't get rm-821 :-/ I saw that Nokia blocked those servers something like that. Can someone give a me a way to put rom but technique that works ? I am from Croatia if this matters for rom.
Thank you very much guys !
you could try this:
https://stebet.net/how-to-install-a-country-variant-firmware-with-the-windows-phone-recovery-tools/
or this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515453
ATT Lumia 920 Firmware Flash
Hi,
I might have missed some methods to do this task but in trying to debrand an ATT lumia 920 (RM-820) that's fully updated to WP 8.1, I can't seem to find a successful way to do it. I've done this procedure in the past successfully by flashing the specified Rogers firmware to the phone with Nokia Care Suite then on to an RM-821 firmware but what worked in the past no longer works. Nokia Care Suite now gives me an error message that the FFU file from my flash file and the FFU file on the phone don't match and the flash procedure halts. I've tried several different Rogers firmware files and no luck with any of them. Any ideas how I can accomplish this task?