hi there i just got my sgs2 but when i looked at the internal memory it says ive only got 11.50GB space on my internal sd not 16GB has anyone got this or is my phone faulty ?
Thanks for the help =]
It is like that. Some useful taken for the system, apps, etc.
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You never get the full 16gb from the start and then around 2gb is used for system apps u wish to install which leaves u with just over 11gb for storage.
Every1 is the same.
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vimto25 said:
You never get the full 16gb from the start and then around 2gb is used for system apps u wish to install which leaves u with just over 11gb for storage.
Every1 is the same.
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oh oright cheers mate
HI all
How can i see the over space ? I d't want too use it, just too verify that the total space is arround 16GB.
Thanks.
Take the system partition, add the sd card partition (not the external one, thats the sd card you put in, the sgs2 just calls extra internal storage the sd card)
Then take off a bit for the space taken up by file system formatting, hidden system bits, cache etc.
And you should have 16GB
go into settings > storage
The numbers you want are "USB storage" and "Device memory" device memory wont show total, but if you go to settings > applications > manage applications, and look at the bar at the bottom it will show the device memory used and free.
Or get a app from the market.
veyka said:
Take the system partition, add the sd card partition (not the external one, thats the sd card you put in, the sgs2 just calls extra internal storage the sd card)
Then take off a bit for the space taken up by file system formatting, hidden system bits, cache etc.
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It is not as easy as it sounds with adding partitions as there are 12 partitions on a Galaxy SII, most of them not visible to the user.
If you have a file manager on the phone which can display files in /sys, then display /sys/block/mmcblk0/size (as a text file). This should display a number in 512 byte units. When you multiply this number by 512 you should get the total capacity (not including the space used by the primary bootloader maybe) On my phone I get 15,756,951,552 bytes, which is roughly 16 GB (not 16 GiB)
Well yes, but I don't think the average person will want to count down to the byte
Nice detective work though!
There is some smaller partitions (1 - 6) summing up to 46.5 MB
Then there is
- cache 100MB
- modem/radio 16MB
- system os partition 512MB
- user data partition (where, among other things, installed apps and their data are stored) 2GB
- some weird "hidden" partition I have no idea what's stored on it 512MB
That roughly summs up to 3.3G.
Addup the ~11.5GB you see as /sdcard and multiply a few times by 1024 and you get something close to 16000000000 Bytes -> there is your 16GB.
For marketing and advertisement reasons capacities are always given as "millions of bytes" with a factor of 1000, not like computers deal with it with a factor of 1024.
For that already a 16GB device shows only up as around 14.5GB on a computer.
That's also why your "1TB USB HDD" from the electronics market only shows up with something around 900GB.
Wanna see it for yourself, open up a terminal or adbshell on your SGS2 and type:
cat /proc/partitions
There you go
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- some weird "hidden" partition I have no idea what's stored on it 512MB
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This partition has a (hidden) .ngmoco directory. As far as I remember I have seen this directory on a non-hidden partition too so this might be used to preinstall additional packages when the Android device is booted the first time.
Only about 20M of this is used on my device so thats somewhat a waste of space
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Yes and no. It is not for marketing purposes only although they are happy to announce higher numbers. The official standard for units (gramm, meter, etc.) state that kilo is for 1000 units , mega for 1000000 units etc. The "standard" used for bytes / RAM conflicts with the standard of the SI units and is discouraged to use.
There is a "standard" which explicitly states that a factor of 1024 is used, but almost nobody uses this "standard" because it looks weird and unusual. Acoording to this standard, 1024*1024*1024 bytes are called 1 gibibyte (1 GiB). Most people (including me when I don't explicitly think about it) and appications still call this 1 gigabyte (1 GB) which leads to confusion.
Think all for these precisions. I'l take time to analyses and follow your answers.
Raz
PS : Sorry for my poor English
Some more exercise for the analytic minds here, why do Galaxy S with same 16GB Internal SD has 13.5GB after taking 2GB (RFS or EXT4, etc.) for data partition and possibly around 500MB for system?
I understand that instead of 1.8xGB as used in SGS1 is lesser than 2.1xGB in SGS2 for data partition which should include dbdata, cache, etc like in SGS1. Also accounting for those hidden partitions, we still don't know an additional 1GB lost (swap partition?)?
I would appreciate inputs from someone who knows how SGS2 utilizes internal SD and if we could repartition to reclaim some space.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15727875&postcount=9
exactely 16G, nothing lost or unencounted for.
Hi,
I actually picked the S2 over the Sensation because of the slightly higher specs and the fact that phone has 16gb internal memory. Being new to android (switch from iPhone) I really don't get what device memory is and why it's filling up so fast. I have barely installed 5 tiny apps and already 140Mb out of the 1.97Gb has already been used. I installed loads of apps on my iPhone and I intend to do that same on my new one so could someone please explain this concept of device memory and what exactly is stored in there. Also, if I run out of device memory, how do I free it up or increase the 1.97Gb limit?
2GB /data rest as internal sd card, system partition, cache, etc.
You can move apps to sd card if the data partition is full.
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Relax, there's plenty of space. I've more than 80 apps installed, and they uses 664MB, so around 240 apps before memory is filled up... Remember that large games like Gameloft games installs their main data on the 12GB partition. And there is also a possibility to move most of the apps to that area as well, but it is unlikely that you need that.
The 140MB used on your phone probably includes some pre-installed apps.
Phew! That's big relief... Thanks so much. Just one last small doubt, I realized that only some apps are allow to be moved to the SD card while others like facebook have the this option greyed out. Why is this exactly?
some apps have the ability to be moved to sd card while others dont due to the way they are built..
can use device internal memory to store app data?
guys is it possible to use the device internal memory (1.9gb) to store app data in absence of internal and external SD card? my camera/apps don't run in absence of the SD card any way to get around this by using the the device internal memory? ( i have 1.5gb free after installation of all the necessarily apps)
When I use 1 Tap Cleaner, it shows Total 2.46GB, Available 257.18, I have 199 applications and most have been moved to SD card. When I go to storage through my settings, it shows Phone Storage, Total Space is 9.75GB, available space is 6.60GB, Internal Storage: Available space is 257. I used to have more space when I had 330 applications, I am not able to update some apps unless I clear some data on some applications. I clean my cache and data every day. How much space do I have for applications, are there other things besides applications taking my storage, I thought the phone has 16GB storage, plus I have 16G SD card. It is really frustrating experience. Appreciate your responses and help.
Hello I have a new Huawei Inspira (H867g) The storage listed on the website i bought it from said it had more storage than the phone says..
So DiskUsage says my apps take up 392mb of space all together. This includes the apps i have downloaded and the factory apps such as calendar, bluetooth services, androidhwext, com.qualcomm.privinit and all kinds of tiny things like that.
And Disk Usage says System data uses 123mb
So I go to Settings in my phone, tap on Storage, and it says
Internal Storage:
Total Space: 2.71gb
Available: 1.76gb, 115mb for applications only.
Why only 115mb for applications while there is 1.76gb available???
Is there ANY way to make that 1.76 available for Applications??
Also, When I get down to about 80mb free space left for apps, it says insufficient space available even when downloading apps as small as 5mbs or so.
It is all quite frustrating and stupid...
If there isn't a way to fix these issues and get much space, is there a way to make the MicroSD card perform as internal storage so I can have more storage and download more apps? I saw a video for that on youtube, for android tablets only (rooted) I believe..
I would appreciate ANY info and advice thank you.
Hello I have a new Huawei Inspira (H867g) The storage listed on the website i bought it from said it had more storage than the phone says..
So DiskUsage says my apps take up 392mb of space all together. This includes the apps i have downloaded and the factory apps such as calendar, bluetooth services, androidhwext, com.qualcomm.privinit and all kinds of tiny things like that.
And Disk Usage says System data uses 123mb
So I go to Settings in my phone, tap on Storage, and it says
Internal Storage:
Total Space: 2.71gb
Available: 1.76gb, 115mb for applications only.
Why only 115mb for applications while there is 1.76gb available???
Is there ANY way to make that 1.76 available for Applications??
Also, When I get down to about 80mb free space left for apps, it says insufficient space available even when downloading apps as small as 5mbs or so.
It is all quite frustrating and stupid...
If there isn't a way to fix these issues and get much space, is there a way to make the MicroSD card perform as internal storage so I can have more storage and download more apps? I saw a video for that on youtube, for android tablets only (rooted) I believe..
I would appreciate ANY info and advice thank you