Well tl;dr my Thunderbolt is slowly taking a crap on me, eMMC corrupting, phone reboots when I remove it from the charger, boot loops from 1-15minutes depending when it wants to work.
I got the Rezound now, and holy crap I haven't experienced so many problems with Android since I first started the S-OFF Rooting stuff back on the HTC Incredible.
For example, I thought the battery hog dialer issue was fixed past 2.3.4, but somehow present on 4.0.3 Slimrom.
For a phone that isn't connected to WiFi, in Airplane mode, this thing eats so much power its retarded.
I have SVS values -75mA per clock, down clocked. And I'm still using on average -100mA - -220mA.
I've applied all the same tweaks I've learned from my past 2 phone too this Rezound. My Thunderbolt I can have in deep sleep only using -15-30mA on average and that's with mobile data off, and very weak signal since my building I live in is a military bunker.
So am I missing something with this phone that I don't know about, or is Snapdragon S3 and Adreno 220 just a bad combination?
Rezound Setup
HBOOT - 2.25
S-ON
Radio 421r/424r
OpenDSP - 13.6.0.7611.00.0104
Slimrom v1.9
OC Kernel by SebastianFM
Downclocked to 1.296Ghz
-75mA per clock across the table
Capacitive Backlight - Off
Phone in airplane mode, everything is off ex- all notifications disabled, auto sync off. It's cut off to the outside world and still eating power up like it's nothing.
Sad to say but its just the Rezound. These things eat through a battery in no time. The biggest culprit is the screen itself. Typically you'll only get around 1.5-2 hours of "screen on" time on a stock battery, and at most 4 on an extended one.
4G radio + one of the first versions of an HD screen on the market = no battery life
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savagebunny said:
Well tl;dr my Thunderbolt is slowly taking a crap on me, eMMC corrupting, phone reboots when I remove it from the charger, boot loops from 1-15minutes depending when it wants to work.
I got the Rezound now, and holy crap I haven't experienced so many problems with Android since I first started the S-OFF Rooting stuff back on the HTC Incredible.
For example, I thought the battery hog dialer issue was fixed past 2.3.4, but somehow present on 4.0.3 Slimrom.
For a phone that isn't connected to WiFi, in Airplane mode, this thing eats so much power its retarded.
I have SVS values -75mA per clock, down clocked. And I'm still using on average -100mA - -220mA.
I've applied all the same tweaks I've learned from my past 2 phone too this Rezound. My Thunderbolt I can have in deep sleep only using -15-30mA on average and that's with mobile data off, and very weak signal since my building I live in is a military bunker.
So am I missing something with this phone that I don't know about, or is Snapdragon S3 and Adreno 220 just a bad combination?
Rezound Setup
HBOOT - 2.25
S-ON
Radio 421r/424r
OpenDSP - 13.6.0.7611.00.0104
Slimrom v1.9
OC Kernel by SebastianFM
Downclocked to 1.296Ghz
-75mA per clock across the table
Capacitive Backlight - Off
Phone in airplane mode, everything is off ex- all notifications disabled, auto sync off. It's cut off to the outside world and still eating power up like it's nothing.
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The best advice I could give you is to maybe try an extended battery. I'm using the HTC 2750 (I think that's the number) along with the Nils P and EclipticRez roms and my battery life is pretty good. Oh yeah, I'm using their stock CPU settings as well. Good luck.
Ya that's what I was noticing. Now I can see that S-LCD Screens are damn battery hogs. Good Ole TFT in my Thunderbolt barely eating anything. On my extended battery with my T-Bolt getting more than 24hrs from using 4G, spotty signal, auto sync, auto brightness etc. And that's with the battery slowly getting worse from charge/discharge cycles.
Hell I even disabled the backlight of the capacitive screen in Leedroid to get more juice out of this thing. I wish my T-Bolt didn't take a crap
@Nike, you mean the HTC 2750 battery that I was able to buy for my Thunderbolt fits the Rezound? I may have to try that right now. Now I hope my T-Bolt reboots back up, :/
No matter what I do the battery life stinks... I just bought several spare batteries and always keep at least one spare with me...
Yes and I'm not sure how, its been widely known that battery life is poor with the HD screen and all. Oh and the 4g, and the dual core 1.5 GHz processor. You might want to rig up a car battery.
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savagebunny said:
Well tl;dr my Thunderbolt is slowly taking a crap on me, eMMC corrupting, phone reboots when I remove it from the charger, boot loops from 1-15minutes depending when it wants to work.
I got the Rezound now, and holy crap I haven't experienced so many problems with Android since I first started the S-OFF Rooting stuff back on the HTC Incredible.
For example, I thought the battery hog dialer issue was fixed past 2.3.4, but somehow present on 4.0.3 Slimrom.
For a phone that isn't connected to WiFi, in Airplane mode, this thing eats so much power its retarded.
I have SVS values -75mA per clock, down clocked. And I'm still using on average -100mA - -220mA.
I've applied all the same tweaks I've learned from my past 2 phone too this Rezound. My Thunderbolt I can have in deep sleep only using -15-30mA on average and that's with mobile data off, and very weak signal since my building I live in is a military bunker.
So am I missing something with this phone that I don't know about, or is Snapdragon S3 and Adreno 220 just a bad combination?
Rezound Setup
HBOOT - 2.25
S-ON
Radio 421r/424r
OpenDSP - 13.6.0.7611.00.0104
Slimrom v1.9
OC Kernel by SebastianFM
Downclocked to 1.296Ghz
-75mA per clock across the table
Capacitive Backlight - Off
Phone in airplane mode, everything is off ex- all notifications disabled, auto sync off. It's cut off to the outside world and still eating power up like it's nothing.
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You really haven't told us your definition of "bad". How much screen on time do you get? I'm not a 'heavy' user and easily get through a day on stock battery and have 90% of deep sleep using the set up in my sig.
If you min freq. is 192, increase it to 384. I've found that to help battery life. If you don't have one, pick up a something like better battery stats from the play store so you can analyze what is causing your drain.
topgun1953 said:
You really haven't told us your definition of "bad". How much screen on time do you get? I'm not a 'heavy' user and easily get through a day on stock battery and have 90% of deep sleep using the set up in my sig.
If you min freq. is 192, increase it to 384. I've found that to help battery life. If you don't have one, pick up a something like better battery stats from the play store so you can analyze what is causing your drain.
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The problem is, I can't get it a proper reading without the phone eating up power while the screen is off. So I really don't have any exact statistics on how its running so far I'm using Battery Monitor Widget and Gsam Battery Monitor. I did increase my min to 384 and see how it pans out for me.
According to Battery Monitor Widget, Dialer has 2m currently 14% then Android System is 55seconds but 1257%. That was checked off as Screen Off - Since Last Unplugged
Gsam is different story, LauncherPro is 31.5%, Kernel 2.1%, Android System 2.0%, and then Dialer is only 0.8%
I'm determined to make this phone work for my and not itself.
Well worth the money with this phone - http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Rezound-Extended-Battery-Door/dp/B006MI8Y84
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Well worth the money with this phone - http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Rezound-Extended-Battery-Door/dp/B006MI8Y84
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Ya I still have my extended battery from my Thunderbolt. I might as well use it. Only issue is that I need the extended battery cover plate which I don't have.
savagebunny said:
Ya I still have my extended battery from my Thunderbolt. I might as well use it. Only issue is that I need the extended battery cover plate which I don't have.
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I have an extended battery and cover that I'm not using and don't think I ever will. I got it with the phone as part of a package and I've never used it myself. It's used, but well taken care of since I bought the phone off a recognized themer on this site. pm me if you're interested.
@feralicious I may take you up on that, only then I will be on standby. Trying to find a solid answer why my phone eats 35% during the night during deep sleep according to CPU Spy telling me it was deep sleep all night.
I'm using the HTC extended battery with tonked world edition ROM and kernel. Also using ROM toolbox pro and v6 supercharger gets me great battery life. 6+ hours of talk time and 4 hours of screen timeI can easily go over 24 hours or over 3 days with light usage.
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I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
Felinos11 said:
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
seansk said:
technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
Felinos11 said:
will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
seansk said:
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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Felinos11 said:
I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
seansk said:
yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
Felinos11 said:
is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
seansk said:
never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
heyodee said:
Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
seansk said:
well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
heyodee said:
Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
seansk said:
well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
seansk said:
I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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How many apps have you installed?
I haven't used a CPU control, overclocking/underclocking app since I had the Incredible. Like many, I haven't been too thrilled with the Rez's battery life. A few days ago I decided to grab SetCPU off the forums and see if I could improve things.
I set a screen off profile to 384/192/interactive, and also spent much of the day with the screen on speed underclocked to 810/192 (by default, the minimum speed is set to 384 and 192 isn't used...). Even at 810 MHz the phone is plenty speedy enough for "normal" activities, I.e.: text, email, short browsing sessions. When I needed it I bumped speed back up to 1510.
End result? 14 hours off charger, 47% life left (screenshot attached). With a decent amount of usage, browsing, texting, email, and shooting a 10 minute 720p video. Typically, the phone will lose 5-10% per hour unless I'm not using it at all. With pretty regularly use throughout the day (note the screen on blips) with these new profiles, I was losing about 3.5% per hour. Well worth a barely-perceptible drop in performance, IMO.
this is on the last official OTA, with a TON of apps/bloat removed, and on the stock kernel.
Bud, I am on CleanROM 3.7, use 4G all day long, tons of screen on time, no CPU or voltage changes and I can make it damn near 24 hours off the charger, lol.
AtLemacks said:
Bud, I am on CleanROM 3.7, use 4G all day long, tons of screen on time, no CPU or voltage changes and I can make it damn near 24 hours off the charger, lol.
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+1.
HTC phones generally do not get good battery life, but I haven't had the terrible life that a lot of people on the forums do. It's on par with the Incredible, I'd say. Not great, but it could be much worse.
then you are one of the Lucky ones or have an extended battery. I see a lottttttt of guys who can barely make it 12 hours on a charge.
I envy you or anyone that can underclock under 1188 without freezing.
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I have various profiles that set the CPU at different speeds depending on screen state or battery life.
It goes from 384/1728/interactive when its at 100% and gradually scales down to 192/540/conservative when its <8%.
When the screen is off, I have it set to 192/702/interactive, unless the battery is less than 25% at which time that profile (192/648/conservative) becomes active even when the screen is off.
When on a phone call, the CPU speed is set to 384/1022/interactive, even when the screen is off, unless the battery is less than 25%.
My phone actually behaves pretty reasonable at 192/540/conservative. It must not lower the GPU speeds, as the graphics appear to draw just as fast when underclocked as it does when overclocked. Where I do notice a difference is when I'm tethering - lower CPU speeds usually results in noticeably lower throughput to tethered devices.
LOL, I can't imagine doing all this BS to get a little better battery life.
I leave everything on, full speed, 4G all day & carry a spare battery -problem solved.
Hell, these batteries are so small & light you could carry four extras & not even know they where in your pocket.
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LOL, I can't imagine doing all this BS to get a little better battery life.
I leave everything on, full speed, 4G all day & carry a spare battery -problem solved.
Hell, these batteries are so small & light you could carry four extras & not even know they where in your pocket.
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Its not all a lot of BS.. I set it up once and it just does its thing. If it helps, why not?
Made 14 hours today on a charge. 3 hours of screen on.
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I leave my phone on all night since I use it as an alarm clock, if the battery is relatively full at night I don't charge it. I just turn on airplane mode, silent mode and wifi, I have it underclocked to 384 also. It barely drops any over night!
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I leave my phone on all night since I use it as an alarm clock, if the battery is relatively full at night I don't charge it. I just turn on airplane mode, silent mode and wifi!
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I use mine for an alarm every morning, but I leave it in 4g and turn the screen off. It uses virtually no battery at all overnight and has never failed to go off as set since day one.
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I use mine for an alarm every morning, but I leave it in 4g and turn the screen off. It uses virtually no battery at all overnight and has never failed to go off as set since day one.
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Agreed. Mine only drops 1 or 2% overnight if I forget to plug it in. As long as the screen is off, the Rezound practically lasts a week. Its the damn screen that actually kills it so fast!
Can't fathom why if you are sleeping and not using the phone, not putting the phone on the charger??
Putting it in airplane mode defeats the primary purpose of it being a phone as well.
I really don't use my phone as a daily wakeup alarm except for unusual wake up times from time to time, but not having the phone fully charged in the morning seems kind of pointless when you have an easy charge time avail when you are not sleeping.
My phone lasts typically 12 to 14 hours with everything turned on except BT if I'm not using it.
Via Rezound using XDA Premium
Someone who doesn't need to use their phone all day should do a test with exactly the same cpu on both phones, except one has just a screen off profile so we can rule out almost all variables and see if screen off actually does help
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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All in my sig.
I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.
My battery life is ridiculous. It doesn't use that much when the screens off but when it's on it uses 10% in about 15-20 minutes. I'm on a sense 4 rom and on senseless it's not much better. Even if I'm streaming music with the screen off, it's okay. It seems the screen is using a massive amount. Is there anything I can do? Thanks
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My battery life is ridiculous. It doesn't use that much when the screens off but when it's on it uses 10% in about 15-20 minutes. I'm on a sense 4 rom and on senseless it's not much better. Even if I'm streaming music with the screen off, it's okay. It seems the screen is using a massive amount. Is there anything I can do? Thanks
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Nope. Thats typical.
You'll get around 4 hours or so of continuous screen-on time, and thats IF you start with a full battery...
davidetkin511 said:
My battery life is ridiculous. It doesn't use that much when the screens off but when it's on it uses 10% in about 15-20 minutes. I'm on a sense 4 rom and on senseless it's not much better. Even if I'm streaming music with the screen off, it's okay. It seems the screen is using a massive amount. Is there anything I can do? Thanks
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i get 2 hrs screen on. less if im playing games, currently im obsessed with dead trigger. ive been playing with my phone plugged in....
You can try slim rom. It worked a little for me. I have the same issue you're describing. Tho for me I also get drain while the screen is off as well due to being in a poor reception area most of the day. Also make sure ur brightness is no higher than 30%. Its just the phone man. The screen is a hog. Honestly I've Bern wondering if there's a way to turn off every other pixel on a hardware level or something cause frankly its ridic.
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Yep, the screen's the culprit, and it's pretty bad. Try JuiceDefender. If you get one of the advanced versions you can really conserve battery power while the phone's not in use, which will extend the power available for screen-on use. Also, you can reduce the CPU speeds a bit, which will also reduce draw and lower the heat.
I use JD Ultimate. My idle/standby time is now very nice, but as others have said there's only about 4 hours of use with the screen on.
I keep hoping the reason for the ICS release delay is because they're working on battery life issues. :sigh:
Thanks guys. I guess it just isn't great on battery life. I've tried juice defender and stuff like that but i was never a fan. I'll give it another try. It sucks to have 50% and the next time I look it's at 40... Haha. Is auto brightness better that doing it yourself?
Turn off any auto syncing and location services if they're not needed.
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Thanks guys. I guess it just isn't great on battery life. I've tried juice defender and stuff like that but i was never a fan. I'll give it another try.
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I wouldn't bother, JD has never worked well at all in the Rezound.
I have one of the paid for advanced versions of JD and I don even bother installing it anymore. I think my battery life was actually worse when running that.
My solution now is to use a mugen 4000 battery. That battery lasts so long I don't even bother to set a screen timeout anymore.
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I wouldn't bother, JD has never worked well at all in the Rezound.
I have one of the paid for advanced versions of JD and I don even bother installing it anymore. I think my battery life was actually worse when running that.
My solution now is to use a mugen 4000 battery. That battery lasts so long I don't even bother to set a screen timeout anymore.
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Do any of those battery saving apps work?
I'm not crazy about big batteries. How is their 1900 one?
I've got about 15 hours once off newts sense 4 rom but with like 2 hours screen time. Screen time is really all that matters in deciding if ur battery lasts 5 hours or 15, unless u have things like music going on while the screen is off, but 2 hours or so is about all the screen time I can get
about 4 hours screen on with standard and 6 hours with ext battery
Same here, I've gotten up to 14-15 hours on a single charge, but with twoish hours of screen time. Other than the screen being a battery murderer on this phone, I've noticed that having poor reception really wreaks havoc on the battery also. I live in the sticks of PA where I'm in a crossover area, and continually switch between 2-4 bars signal of 1x, 3G, and 4G. And if I don't have a stable signal for a while, the phone will actually heat up and start discharging the battery due to constant searching for a signal. Sitting at work, full strength 4G signal, it only heats up when the screen is on for an extended period of time.
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I wouldn't bother, JD has never worked well at all in the Rezound.
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JuiceDefender works fine on the Rezound. The problem is that the Rezound doesn't benefit from JuiceDefender as much as other phones do, mainly because it suffers from a different problem than other phones.
JuiceDefender's strategy is to shutdown nearly every radio and process in the phone when the screen is off and there's no active communications. This works, in the sense that if you turn off the screen with 98% power, you can turn it back on a couple hours later and the phone will still have 94% battery remaining. You won't get that kind of battery life if you're running a bunch of widgets and syncing email without JD.
But the Rezound's incredible screen (and even now it remains one of the very highest quality displays in the industry) draws a lot of juice when it's running. Not coincidentally, this is also the time when the dual cores are running at maximum speed, and the heat you feel on a Rezound that's been screen-on for a few minutes is the milliamps getting sucked from your battery.
Still, JuiceDefender can help here, too. You can tinker with the brightness curve to reduce your backlighting even with the dimmer set to "Auto," and you can tinker with the CPU speeds and the governor strategy. The phone does not need to run both CPU cores at full speed to feel responsive, and yet that's what it does by default. In the Ultimate version, anyway, JuiceDefender does a good job of capping that. In fact, with the right settings I can operate my phone indefinitely without overheating it. And any heat you can't feel is energy that's staying in the battery.
JuiceDefender does work. But it helps to have reasonable expectations. That display does draw a lot more current than most other phones, and this does limit your screen-on time no matter what else you do to conserve power.
I never really cared for JuiceDefender back when I used it on my Evo 4G. It seemed to just barely save me any battery and having to wait for the radios to turn back on after every unlock was annoying me.
I will suggest that if you have the Facebook app and you're regularly using it, it might be taking up tremendous amount of battery. If you want to keep using it, at least disable it from syncing.
Also, TurboProp works pretty nice in extending my battery life. I don't think it's just a placebo, either. I can go over 24 hours on a single charge thanks to it, and that's for the stock battery, too.
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JuiceDefender works fine on the Rezound. The problem is that the Rezound doesn't benefit from JuiceDefender as much as other phones do, mainly because it suffers from a different problem than other phones.
JuiceDefender's strategy is to shutdown nearly every radio and process in the phone when the screen is off and there's no active communications. This works, in the sense that if you turn off the screen with 98% power, you can turn it back on a couple hours later and the phone will still have 94% battery remaining. You won't get that kind of battery life if you're running a bunch of widgets and syncing email without JD.
But the Rezound's incredible screen (and even now it remains one of the very highest quality displays in the industry) draws a lot of juice when it's running. Not coincidentally, this is also the time when the dual cores are running at maximum speed, and the heat you feel on a Rezound that's been screen-on for a few minutes is the milliamps getting sucked from your battery.
Still, JuiceDefender can help here, too. You can tinker with the brightness curve to reduce your backlighting even with the dimmer set to "Auto," and you can tinker with the CPU speeds and the governor strategy. The phone does not need to run both CPU cores at full speed to feel responsive, and yet that's what it does by default. In the Ultimate version, anyway, JuiceDefender does a good job of capping that. In fact, with the right settings I can operate my phone indefinitely without overheating it. And any heat you can't feel is energy that's staying in the battery.
JuiceDefender does work. But it helps to have reasonable expectations. That display does draw a lot more current than most other phones, and this does limit your screen-on time no matter what else you do to conserve power.
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Very good explanation cpurick. Totally agree with your assessment that the cpu cores need to be capped. Do you mind sharing your JD settings?
Can anyone with an HTC one tell me about how the battery life is on yours and what helps make it go longer? Because I would call the battery on mine awful.
I would recommend that you install an application from the Play Store called "BetterBatteryStats". This will enable you to closely check what application uses the most battery, how long your phone is in deep sleep for and much more.
Charge the phone fully and after about a day, or until it almost dies, export a text file using the share button and upload it onto here and we can have a look at what is using your battery.
Just out of curiosity, how long does your battery usually last? Mine lasts 2 days on light usage and 1 day on heavy usage.
It's awesome. I'm running arhd with greenify hibernating all my apps. I get like a day and a half of battery time.
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I'm seeing a significant burn on mine as well. My device gets to where you could cook on it. Bugguh gets hot!
Does this look typical?
Thank you gents
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Vuitres said:
I'm seeing a significant burn on mine as well. My device gets to where you could cook on it. Bugguh gets hot!
Does this look typical?
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thats bad...it should not get hot like that...any device lol...even on standby, for a device to get unbearably hot is bad ... do you have a lot of chat apps and background apps running? like apps that require push data services and etc?
Nothing. I run a lean system. I close all apps and I'm using the stock messaging app with the stock keyboard. I've concluded it's just that this phone is a piece of ship board.
With respect...
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My guys are getting upwards of 30+ hrs and 3hrs screentime with 4.2.2....usage may vary....
You could put your phone in power saver mode. I haven't bothered with it much, but those who have say that it doesn't impact performance in any noticeable way. I tend to have 1-3 hours of screen on time, depending on the day. I've never had any issue getting that with this phone, at least not yet.
As someone else mentioned, it does get quite warm to the touch, however. Never to the point where it's uncomfortable to hold, but enough so that it bothers me. I think it's just because in the back of my mind I know that, in general, electronics getting hot = bad. Yesterday my One got warm in the car while I was using GPS to navigate with it and the sun was just pounding the interior of my car. So I held my One up to the vent and blasted it with the air conditioner from time to time (i.e. not while driving, so spare me the lecture). Seemed to cool it off pretty well
Perfect rom
I have been using the RayGlobe Rom 6.0 and the battery is more than adequate for me and runs cold. Lots of mods and themes also. Might give it a try.
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With stock sense, my battery was pretty bad, to the point where I was pretty worried about having to get a different phone as it wouldn't last a day. But I put CM 10.1 on here last night, and it has been pretty amazing today.
I actually just picked my One up this last week and have been running battery tests with moderate use throughout the day and it can easily last 20+ hours (I didn't have time to let it go for a full 24). Maybe i'll do some heavy use tests and see how it goes.
I too am having battery issues... One day the battery last forever, the next day it drains quickly. I recently installed cpuz to see the max speed of the cpu when power saver mode was on. The max speed I observed was 1134 ghz, however I again checked the cpu speed after I rebooted my phone (with power saver still enabled) and cpuz now was indicating the cpu was running at full speed 1728 ghz. I turned off power saver and then re enable power saver mode and then cpuz showed the cpu to be throttled again at 1134 ghz. It appears (at least on my phone) that power saver mode does not automatically start after a reboot even though the powersaving mode was left on prior to reboot and the the phone shows the power saving symbol as active after reboot. Would someone test this scenario on there phone to verify the problem exist on other phones?
I converted the AT&T HTC One to full Google Edition and my battery life is solid. After 10 hours of usuage (BT on & connected, Wifi on & connected, Exchange email on push, 2h of screen on time, 2h talk time ...) I get to about 20-30% left of battery.
Good enough for what I need compared to my retired GS2