can someone take a look at this and tell me if this device is truly unlocked. it says s-off, but there is no **UNLOCKED** banner at the top of the bootloader.
been through a world of crap with this device and dont want to do it again. Thanks in advance
drlzanej said:
can someone take a look at this and tell me if this device is truly unlocked. it says s-off, but there is no **UNLOCKED** banner at the top of the bootloader.
been through a world of crap with this device and dont want to do it again. Thanks in advance
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438&page=3 take a look at this
In other words with s-off an unlocked bootloader is irrelevant unless you still want to flash a recovery through fastboot. You can flash twrp recovery bootloader method, gain root and flash 4ext recovery through the app (highly recommended). Also should you need to have your phone serviced, it is essential to have your phones bootloader in "locked" state.
drlzanej said:
can someone take a look at this and tell me if this device is truly unlocked. it says s-off, but there is no **UNLOCKED** banner at the top of the bootloader.
been through a world of crap with this device and dont want to do it again. Thanks in advance
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This almost seems like a troll thread lol, The OP is a senior member, with hundreds of thanks and has something to do with Bad Seed Customs, And has an S-off'd device, Asking such a sily question lol
It's all good though, Knowledge for the community [=
drlzanej said:
can someone take a look at this and tell me if this device is truly unlocked. it says s-off, but there is no **UNLOCKED** banner at the top of the bootloader.
been through a world of crap with this device and dont want to do it again. Thanks in advance
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You can't really tell from the bootloader screen with the engineering hboot installed.
All the custom bootloaders (ENG, Revolutionary, JBear) hide the locked/unlocked/relocked status on the first line of the bootloader screen since they enable the fastboot commands that would normally require unlocking the stock bootloaders. There are two ways to determine the current status:
1. Flash a stock bootloader (1.4, 1.5, 1.58)
2. Run the "query_bootloader.zip" script from this post in recovery
A lot of users get confused about the difference between unlocking the bootloader (hboot S-OFF) and gaining radio S-OFF. I was confused myself until the light went on as explained in this post. It used to be that the only way to get the stock "locked" status back after doing the htcdev unlock was to do the wire trick, but now you can "flash" the "lock_bootloader.zip" file from the post linked in the #2 option above which uses a modified version of update-binary to reset the flag in the firmware.
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Can't_Live_Without_My_Evo said:
This almost seems like a troll thread lol, The OP is a senior member, with hundreds of thanks and has something to do with Bad Seed Customs, And has an S-off'd device, Asking such a sily question lol
It's all good though, Knowledge for the community [=
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ok thatbeing said, Let me clarify. The device is my wifes which i rooted and unlocked and handed over to her to do with what she will and havent really looked at it since so whatever she done to it , I have no idea. She borked something at some point so i decided I was going install another rom. was going to install an ICS rom, went to flash the firmware and found the bootloader in the state it was in. The last time i looked at that boot loader it said **REVOLUTIONARY**(I think it was revolutionary I dont remember) anyway, It wasnt the way it was before. So not being very familiar with this device Im not a person who will idioticaly flash something without asking first. Thank you for your reply tho.
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You can't really tell from the bootloader screen with the engineering hboot installed.
All the custom bootloaders (ENG, Revolutionary, JBear) hide the locked/unlocked/relocked status on the first line of the bootloader screen since they enable the fastboot commands that would normally require unlocking the stock bootloaders. There are two ways to determine the current status:
1. Flash a stock bootloader (1.4, 1.5, 1.58)
2. Run the "query_bootloader.zip" script from this post in recovery
A lot of users get confused about the difference between unlocking the bootloader (hboot S-OFF) and gaining radio S-OFF. I was confused myself until the light went on as explained in this post. It used to be that the only way to get the stock "locked" status back after doing the htcdev unlock was to do the wire trick, but now you can "flash" the "lock_bootloader.zip" file from the post linked in the #2 option above which uses a modified version of update-binary to reset the flag in the firmware.
ramjet73
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Thank you sir for your response, Exactly what I was looking for. Later,,,,,,
unable to lock bootloader
ramjet73 said:
You can't really tell from the bootloader screen with the engineering hboot installed.
All the custom bootloaders (ENG, Revolutionary, JBear) hide the locked/unlocked/relocked status on the first line of the bootloader screen since they enable the fastboot commands that would normally require unlocking the stock bootloaders. There are two ways to determine the current status:
1. Flash a stock bootloader (1.4, 1.5, 1.58)
2. Run the "query_bootloader.zip" script from this post in recovery
A lot of users get confused about the difference between unlocking the bootloader (hboot S-OFF) and gaining radio S-OFF. I was confused myself until the light went on as explained in this post. It used to be that the only way to get the stock "locked" status back after doing the htcdev unlock was to do the wire trick, but now you can "flash" the "lock_bootloader.zip" file from the post linked in the #2 option above which uses a modified version of update-binary to reset the flag in the firmware.
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guys will the same work on my htc desire v , i am unable to reset from relocked to locked. i need to apply for warranty as my phone gets restarted every now and then and the htc service center guys are telling that i have void the warranty
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I'm on 3.14 stock ruu, unlocked bootloader, amonra in the recovery
do I need to flash something like the "3.14 stock deodexxed root"
or can I just finally try to s-off?
thanks <3
Watercycle said:
I'm on 3.14 stock ruu, unlocked bootloader, amonra in the recovery
do I need to flash something like the "3.14 stock deodexxed root"
or can I just finally try to s-off?
thanks <3
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the su binary MUST be present in the system for the S-OFF process to work correctly, so yes, you must root.
Since you have Amon ra installed, just boot into that, go to the developer menu and install the su binary, then do S-OFF
a.mcdear said:
the su binary MUST be present in the system for the S-OFF process to work correctly, so yes, you must root.
Since you have Amon ra installed, just boot into that, go to the developer menu and install the su binary, then do S-OFF
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unguarded or super user? and thank you i didn't know about that =)
Watercycle said:
unguarded or super user? and thank you i didn't know about that =)
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Sueperuser not unguarded
this is the most rediculous process ever! (currently trying to wire trick) I'VE USED 2 DARN TYPES OF WIRE AND A PAPERCLIP AND NONE OF THEM DO ANYTHING
oh god, whew... i was running around the house making a wire out of everything...
but after trying the paperclip for like the 8th time (which took a half hour to find) it seems to have worked
S-off is the most stressful android activity ever >XO
thanks you two <3
You did use the ics jb hboot right? Make sure you can see the sd card? And don't unlock your phone again. You would need to s-on then s-off again for it to say locked. I just woke up and saw your new posts, its been a long day but I see you got help. Welcome to the club, glad it finally worked.
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I used the Hboot that came with 3.14 Ruu, if S-off took the "relocked" away then i'm happy, if it didn't, oh well, but I was unlocked when I started the process =o
As long as you don't unlock it after s-off, it will be locked again ( although it says "juopunutbear" instead of "locked" if you're using their modified boot. Just flash a stock one and it will say locked)
I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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The patched hboot adds some advanced fast boot commands. However everything will work without the patched hboot. You don't need it its just nice to have
Watercycle said:
I'm still not to sure why people keep bringing up the Hboot, is it because if you flash S-off's it will break it?
I declined the modified version and everything appears to be working
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The juoponut bear hboot is an eng hboot that allows for adb commands and other options most people will not need.
The h boot issue is thus......in the event you want your phone returned to stock (s on and locked in downloader), after gaining s off do NOT HTC unlock the phone.
If you don't unlock it and want to return to stock you basically run a ruu, and then write the secure flag back to s on (scotty123 has a thread how to do this). After which point you phone will be on stock Rom, recovery and h boot will say locked and s on. Just like the day you first got the phone.
If you unlock after s off (as an early adopter I did) your bootloader will only say unlocked or relocked. You can run ruus, and write secure flag to s on.....BUT your hboot will say relocked or unlocked. And to a trained eye, someone can tell you tampered with it (running Roma,etc)
In my case, I had to follow scottys thread, s on, and do the s off process all over again. Early on we thought flashing a ruu would change the hboot status from relocked to locked. However we were mistaken.
So, don't unlock after s off.
If you can't run adb commands with your h boot and don't want to flash an eng hboot, use the ph98img.zip method to flash things (ex recovery, hboots, radios).
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ericsignals said:
The juoponut bear hboot is an eng hboot that allows for adb commands and other options most people will not need.
The h boot issue is thus......in the event you want your phone returned to stock (s on and locked in downloader), after gaining s off do NOT HTC unlock the phone.
If you don't unlock it and want to return to stock you basically run a ruu, and then write the secure flag back to s on (scotty123 has a thread how to do this). After which point you phone will be on stock Rom, recovery and h boot will say locked and s on. Just like the day you first got the phone.
If you unlock after s off (as an early adopter I did) your bootloader will only say unlocked or relocked. You can run ruus, and write secure flag to s on.....BUT your hboot will say relocked or unlocked. And to a trained eye, someone can tell you tampered with it (running Roma,etc)
In my case, I had to follow scottys thread, s on, and do the s off process all over again. Early on we thought flashing a ruu would change the hboot status from relocked to locked. However we were mistaken.
So, don't unlock after s off.
If you can't run adb commands with your h boot and don't want to flash an eng hboot, use the ph98img.zip method to flash things (ex recovery, hboots, radios).
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Well everything is right but the first part, the modified hboot allows you to perform fastboot commands that would otherwise require you to unlock the bootloader
Fastboot flash, fastboot boot... Etc.
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superchilpil said:
Well everything is right but the first part, the modified hboot allows you to perform fastboot commands that would otherwise require you to unlock the bootloader
Fastboot flash, fastboot boot... Etc.
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Forgot to add that part when I typed the adb part ....thanks for correcting me.:thumbup:
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oh dear, so without that Hboot command prompt won't be able to fastboot into recovery and whatnot?
Watercycle said:
oh dear, so without that Hboot command prompt won't be able to fastboot into recovery and whatnot?
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Yes, but there are ways around that
I personally just package my own ph98img.zips if I need to flash a kernel or recovery after doing something dumb
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If you want to add the JB Hboot, it is very simple. You can go to their site and just download the most recent hboot. You must know if you are ICS or GB. But go here: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/ and download the right one, either vigor ics or vigor gb. Put that in the folder where you had put the original controlbear program and follow these instructions:
To flash the JuopunutBear hboots
Put the phone in fastboot mode, connected to the pc and enter the following commands
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot flash zip jb_hboot.zip
Thats all there is to it and you can now benefit from the JB Hboot.
I thought you needed to be unlocked with htc dev to gain s-off? Now I'm hearing that I should not unlock my phone before I s-off?
Yes you need to be unlocked. It's part of the prerequisites. Please read then reread the thread in general "s-off with instructions...it's official". Understand how to avoid problems and fix them if they arise. It's very easy but it's like people half ass reading the instructions recently. Don't be that person.
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th3rapist said:
I thought you needed to be unlocked with htc dev to gain s-off? Now I'm hearing that I should not unlock my phone before I s-off?
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You have to unlock befor you s off, afterwards it's redundant to do so. But some people have
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doubleshot, ruby ICS, vigor ICS, holiday ICS, pyramid ICS?
which one? haha
I don't mind don't 1 more small flash that will probably be necessary in the future as long as it doesn't screw my current rom up
I did Bootloader unlock using the code fron HTEDev, and it showed "Unlocked" . Then I flashed 4Ext recovery and unrooted. However, when I did "S-off", the bootloader shows"Locked" again with the text "S-off".
Anyone have the same issue? Should I do the unlock again using the code? or I can just ignore it and go ahead install other custome ROM.
Edit: Educated by dark nightmare.
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Just unlock it back using the unlock file you got.
Would unlocking again serve any real purpose?
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death4u said:
Would unlocking again serve any real purpose?
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda app-developers app
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Leave it locked and you'll see, .
sent from a galaxy you'll never see.
Dark Nightmare said:
Just unlock it back using the unlock file you got.
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I have several questions here:
1. Is my bootloader re-locked after S-off, or it is still unlocked but just show a Irrelevant text " locked" ?
2. How could I check if the real bootloader's status: "Locked" or Unlocked", not just from the text show in the fastboot page?
2. If the "bootloader is relocked", it should show "Relocked", not "Locked", isn't it?.
3. If it IS re-locked and I don't re-unlock it, will it affect the installation of custom ROM?
If the "Locked" after S-off does not affect the installation of custom ROM, I would like to leave it that way which will be easy to roll back to complete stock for warranty.
Brightxda said:
I have several questions here:
1. Is my bootloader re-locked after S-off, or it is still unlocked but just show a Irrelevant text " locked" ?
2. How could I check if the real bootloader's status: "Locked" or Unlocked", not just from the text show in the fastboot page?
2. If the "bootloader is relocked", it should show "Relocked", not "Locked", isn't it?.
3. If it IS re-locked and I don't re-unlock it, will it affect the installation of custom ROM?
If the "Locked" after S-off does not affect the installation of custom ROM, I would like to leave it that way which will be easy to roll back to complete stock for warranty.
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It is locked you need to un lock it again so you can flash custom recovery
sent from my NRGized Amaze,
powered by faux kernel v.16
aj_2423 said:
It is locked you need to un lock it again so you can flash custom recovery
sent from my NRGized Amaze,
powered by faux kernel v.16
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If he had a custom recovery before s-off it's still there, but you see the thing about "locked" or "relocked" bootloaders people don't understand is that even with s-off, once it's locked, writing anything at all isn't possible via custom recoveries, that itself is the first level of security we bypass to customize our devices.
By the way to the op, it is currently locked the way it was before you unlocked via htcdev, not relocked, that text on the hboot is the verification.
sent from a galaxy you'll never see.
Dark Nightmare said:
If he had a custom recovery before s-off it's still there, but you see the thing about "locked" or "relocked" bootloaders people don't understand is that even with s-off, once it's locked, writing anything at all isn't possible via custom recoveries, that itself is the first level of security we bypass to customize our devices.
By the way to the op, it is currently locked the way it was before you unlocked via htcdev, not relocked, that text on the hboot is the verification.
sent from a galaxy you'll never see.
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Thank you all very much for clearing my questions. I will unlock it again.
One more question: How could it relocked during the S-off? Is it the normal thing for all of S-off or it just happens in a few cases?
Brightxda said:
Thank you all very much for clearing my questions. I will unlock it again.
One more question: How could it relocked during the S-off? Is it the normal thing for all of S-off or it just happens in a few cases?
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It happens to all of us, once you don't install JB hboot after s-off it locks your bootloader, I guess the entire process resets a few security levels since it turns the main security lock off.
Dark Nightmare said:
It happens to all of us, once you don't install JB hboot after s-off it locks your bootloader, I guess the entire process resets a few security levels since it turns the main security lock off.
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You are right. I skipped the last step, installing JB hboot during the S-off. I thought my Amazer came with the new ICS pre-installed which might not need other hboot. It should not be any problem, right?
Brightxda said:
You are right. I skipped the last step, installing JB hboot during the S-off. I thought my Amazer came with the new ICS pre-installed which might not need other hboot. It should not be any problem, right?
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Na it's just a custom hboot, not needed, you can always flash that or the ENG hboot later if you wanna change your splash screen, that's probably the only thing it's useful for.
Dark Nightmare said:
Na it's just a custom hboot, not needed, you can always flash that or the ENG hboot later if you wanna change your splash screen, that's probably the only thing it's useful for.
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Thank you again, I reunlocked the bootloader, flashed Energy™ ROM and it works great now.:victory:
I’ve only used the HTCDEV.com method for unlocking my bootloader. When I go into the bootloader it now says Unlocked and S-OFF. I’ve done nothing else to achieve S-Off. Is it possible my phone says S-OFF but it actually isn’t fully S-OFFed yet? How could I check if it is truly S-OFF? Thanks for your suggestions.
If it says s-off it is. To check you can flash a boot splash or a radio. If it goes through successfully then ya. I would just do the boot splash. No need to risk breaking your phone
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Thank you for your reply. It says S-OFF so I guess it is then. But isn't it strange that I only have used HTCDEV.com to unlock bootloader and then did nothing else? No wire trick or anything, just HTCDEV.com, and now it shows S-OFF..
It seems I can flash anything. I accidentally needed to restore a Nandroid backup due to a bad flash. After restore I had to set-up the whole phone again so I think something went wrong with the Nandroid backup. I thought it could be related due to not having full S-OFF. But I guess this was just a bad Nandroid backup and has nothing to do with having S-OFF or not?
EDIT: I'm just curious as to why I have gained S-OFF by just unlocking the bootloader with HTCDEV.com. I've searched and searched the forums but I couldn't find anyone who also gained S-OFF by HTCDEV.com. I just followed the procedure like 1000's of other people, and I'm having a hard time to believe that I am the only one who has S-OFF by just following this procedure and nothing else. It was immediately shown after HTCDEV unlock reboot and before I flashed CWM with SuperSU zip.
What if it is the other way around,i was able to change a boot animation and my phone is said to be s-on ?,what if i was told to be s-on but i flashed a rom that changed my radio ?
bramgg said:
I’ve only used the HTCDEV.com method for unlocking my bootloader. When I go into the bootloader it now says Unlocked and S-OFF. I’ve done nothing else to achieve S-Off. Is it possible my phone says S-OFF but it actually isn’t fully S-OFFed yet? How could I check if it is truly S-OFF? Thanks for your suggestions.
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In my opinion, you've got a refurbished phone which was s-offed previously.
Before unlocking via htcdev have you checked whether it was s-off or not?
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FirePheonex said:
What if it is the other way around,i was able to change a boot animation and my phone is said to be s-on ?,what if i was told to be s-on but i flashed a rom that changed my radio ?
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are you talking about splash screen it boot animation? boot animation is part of Rom and can be changed even though you are s-on. IMO.
and the Radio ?
mnomaanw said:
In my opinion, you've got a refurbished phone which was s-offed previously.
Before unlocking via htcdev have you checked whether it was s-off or not?
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I checked, it was s-on.. Thanks for the reply though.
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and the Radio ?
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what is your current radio version? and what was it before ?
Putting this here so people who want/need it can find it.
MD5 is on the download page.
http://d-h.st/bQF
thanks man! anything on kernel source?
dsb9938 said:
Putting this here so people who want/need it can find it.
MD5 is on the download page.
http://d-h.st/bQF
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its possible to find for international Ruu?
Will this ruu work to get the phone back to s-on and back to stock?
droidrev71 said:
Will this ruu work to get the phone back to s-on and back to stock?
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If you do it properly, these files will get you back to full on stock, yes.
dsb9938 said:
If you do it properly, these files will get you back to full on stock, yes.
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Thank you. I'll do a search on instructions after lunch
Edit: do i Fastboot oem rebootruu then Fastboot the zip in the link?
droidrev71 said:
Thank you. I'll do a search on instructions after lunch
Edit: do i Fastboot oem rebootruu then Fastboot the zip in the link?
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Pretty sure it's something like that, but please find a good guide, I have never done it myself and I don't want you to screw up your phone.
afsandiego said:
thanks for this..
a few more questions..
How do I actually use it?
does this pretty much turn s-on and locked the bootloader and remove the twrp?
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Pretty sure it's something like that, but please find a good guide, I have never done it myself and I don't want you to screw up your phone.
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scotty1223 said:
anyway,you can flash it just like described for the radio:
-place phone in fastboot,open cmd. file must be in your adb/fastboot working directory
-enter:
fastboot erase cache
fastboto oem rebootRUU (will put you in ruu mode,black screen silver htc letters)
fastboot flash zip zipfilename.zip (will send and flash the file. dont interupt it while the cmd window shows its writinging,and the green status bar is moving on the phone screen)
*sometimes a file will fail with a pre-update error after after flashing hboot,radios or other firmware. this is normal,just enter again:
fastboot flash zip zipfilename.zip
and this time it will finish
-when you get "finished" and "OK"
fastboot reboot-bootloader (takes you back to fastboot. should also rescue you if for some reason the file wont flash)
-reboot back to the OS
fastbooot reboot
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I used this instruction with the RUU file on this thread and I was able to get back to stock but bootloader is still Unlocked and S-OFF.
Anyone knows how to turn back S-ON?
afsandiego said:
I used this instruction with the RUU file on this thread and I was able to get back to stock but bootloader is still Unlocked and S-OFF.
Anyone knows how to turn back S-ON?
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Just Flip the Flag. You can use Scott1223's Thread on changing the flag.
It doesn't Lock the device again but it does report locked on the Bootloader fastboot mode. This has been enough for warranty reasons for Verizon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540004
I have GUI for Verizon/Sprint versions on Stock Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618407
Thanks,
DeadPhoenix said:
Just Flip the Flag. You can use Scott1223's Thread on changing the flag.
It doesn't Lock the device again but it does report locked on the Bootloader fastboot mode. This has been enough for warranty reasons for Verizon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540004
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Can you please stop telling people it does not lock the bootloader. I have quoted the text below in reply to you at least once before. Setting the flag back to "Locked" does tell the bootloader to be locked. It is not just displaying locked. Someone is going to try to modify something thinking their bootloader isnt truly locked after accomplishing the below when it is.
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not sure what youre asking. locked is locked... this leaves the "lock status" flag that tells hboot wether to be unlocked or not, in a locked state,just as it came out of the box.
if you mean "does the lock status flag need to tell hboot to be locked in order for the fingerprint scanner to work" then the answer is yes. hex editing hboot to make the unlocked banner read "locked" does absolutely nothing functionally. whatever partition controls the fingerprint scanner is looking at the lock status flag itself,and could care less what hboots banner reads
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Jiggity Janx said:
Can you please stop telling people it does not lock the bootloader. I have quoted the text below in reply to you at least once before. Setting the flag back to "Locked" does tell the bootloader to be locked. It is not just displaying locked. Someone is going to try to modify something thinking their bootloader isnt truly locked after accomplishing the below when it is.
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Let's attack this from another angle.
S-OFF = Secure Bootloader = Accessing Partitions normally not accessible (i.e. Radio and Hboot partition access) Flips the Hex code of the Bootloader Flag to Unlocked
Bootloader Flag = Bootloader hex code used by internal device partitions to determine device hardware compliance and functionality.
First off s-off does NOT equal unsecure bootloader (which Im assuming is what you meant). They are separate and distinct. You must s-off to be able to unlock the bootloader.
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Moved to correct thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540004
Jiggity Janx said:
First off s-off does NOT equal unsecure bootloader (which Im assuming is what you meant). They are separate and distinct. You must s-off to be able to unlock the bootloader.
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Moved to correct thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540004
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If you would like to discuss further please take this to PM.
This is a dev forum and discussions like this should happen in the thread to which it pertains. I cant be the only one that will want to know this very important piece of information and its background. Scotty has noted he will reply later time permitting. I am ok with being wrong based on my understanding and information provided but this needs to be out there.
This is not complicated. There is a locked/unlocked flag, and a secure/insecure flag for S-Off.
They are not the same. You need to turn both to get back to stock.
I have not tried going back to S-On, but I do lock/unlock frequently.
The fingerprint scanner stops working when unlocked, and I cannot fastboot flash certain things to test when locked.
As for how you get either of these to be in either state, yes, that is a topic for another thread.
Is it possible for me to use the Verizon RUU to convert my Sprint One max to Verizon stock software similar to how people are able to convert the HTC one to Google Play edition?
Hopefully they want delete this thread.
Also what does it mean when you say decrypted.
dsb9938 said:
This is not complicated. There is a locked/unlocked flag, and a secure/insecure flag for S-Off.
They are not the same. You need to turn both to get back to stock.
I have not tried going back to S-On, but I do lock/unlock frequently.
The fingerprint scanner stops working when unlocked, and I cannot fastboot flash certain things to test when locked.
As for how you get either of these to be in either state, yes, that is a topic for another thread.
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I'm by no means am a developer, but this is accurate. I had the HTC Incredible and sold it on Craigslist a few years later. To restore it to complete stock, I had to use the Stock RUU, lock the bootloader, and turn S-On. However, I've heard of some people buying a brand new device with S-Off from the factory. Both of my HTC devices were S-On. I used rumrunner to S-Off my One Max and Revoked to S-Off my original Incredible.
With that said, is there a guide/tool to turn S-On with our One Max? Just for information purposes.
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I was previously on the original HBOOT (first one) and S-Off.
I did NOT have the "TAMPERED" flag on my phone.
After upgrading to latest release I am on the latest HBOOT but now it's also flagged as "TAMPERED".
My understanding is being S-off a way to remove this should exists.
I've never done the HTC unlock as have always been S-Off.
Is it possible to get this removed on latest release without being 100% stock?
I know on some phones like the One you can modify a flag in one of the partitions.
I am on a stock rom just rooted so beyond seeing that flag it's not obvious I am rooted.
Thx
See this post
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JManekia said:
See this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50112366
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Nope, he says:
Q8: My bootloader says "TAMPERED" after flashing the firmware. How to fix?
A: Just ignore it. It's no big deal.
Someone did a mod to remove the developer text but that's it. My understanding is the flag doesn't reside in the HBOOT directly but in some other area of the phone?
Run a RUU. It will remove the *TAMPERED* status. Your phone will remain unlocked, and it be displayed as such.
If you don't have easy access to a PC, one of the easiest solutions is to download the VipeRUU zip to your phone, extract the rom.zip to your ext SD, rename it to PJ75IMG.zip, and flash it through the bootloader. The next time that you reboot into the bootloader after the process is completed, then TAMPERED should be gone.
I'm just speculating, but maybe you removed the tampered status before by using the Regaw Bootloader Customizer, which only edits the bootloader info, and doesn't actually change anything for the phone itself. It's only a cosmetic change.
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Run a RUU. It will remove the *TAMPERED* status. Your phone will remain unlocked, and it be displayed as such.
If you don't have easy access to a PC, one of the easiest solutions is to download the VipeRUU zip to your phone, extract the rom.zip to your ext SD, rename it to PJ75IMG.zip, and flash it through the bootloader. The next time that you reboot into the bootloader after the process is completed, then TAMPERED should be gone.
I'm just speculating, but maybe you removed the tampered status before by using the Regaw Bootloader Customizer, which only edits the bootloader info, and doesn't actually change anything for the phone itself. It's only a cosmetic change.
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That's what I did - noticed after the 4.3 RUU that it went from "Unlocked/Tampered" to just "Unlocked." I kinda want to also modify the "Unlocked" text as I did before with Regaw's tool, I'll have to look into whether it will work.
SilverZero said:
That's what I did - noticed after the 4.3 RUU that it went from "Unlocked/Tampered" to just "Unlocked." I kinda want to also modify the "Unlocked" text as I did before with Regaw's tool, I'll have to look into whether it will work.
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There's a reason why I didn't suggest using that tool. You kinda need to MAKE SURE that you know your bootloader status. If you activate S-On twice in a row, that baby's definitely gonna brick. I rather know what my bootloader is supposed to say, because I'm really the only person looking at it. What difference will it really make?
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There's a reason why I didn't suggest using that tool. You kinda need to MAKE SURE that you know your bootloader status. If you activate S-On twice in a row, that baby's definitely gonna brick. I rather know what my bootloader is supposed to say, because I'm really the only person looking at it. What difference will it really make?
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Well that's why I said I'd have to look into it. I assumed it wouldn't work with the new HBOOT, and I guess I don't care one way or the other. But for anybody else reading this, don't try it.
On the other hand, I climb mountains because they're there. If I want it to say "Hacked" instead of "Unlocked" and I can do it without screwing things up, I might do it just to screw with the guy who buys it from me down the road.
bryanu said:
I was previously on the original HBOOT (first one) and S-Off.
I did NOT have the "TAMPERED" flag on my phone.
After upgrading to latest release I am on the latest HBOOT but now it's also flagged as "TAMPERED".
My understanding is being S-off a way to remove this should exists.
I've never done the HTC unlock as have always been S-Off.
Is it possible to get this removed on latest release without being 100% stock?
I know on some phones like the One you can modify a flag in one of the partitions.
I am on a stock rom just rooted so beyond seeing that flag it's not obvious I am rooted.
Thx
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Originally for Hboot 2.09 but should work for Hboot 2.10. (don't quote me on that though)
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Please don't anyone on the 2.10 HBOOT flash this! Please remove this attachment.
EDIT: This post is what I mean. You have to understand what the Bootloader Customizer actually does (which is explained in the thread) and know that flashing this would bork all the things. This is literally a 2.09 HBOOT. The 2.10 HBOOT is what accommodates the new partition layout, so flashing this will break that and prevent the device from booting up. The issue is the signed boot.img. That's why you see the tampered flag. I assume you're not using my stock rooted? You updated directly from RUU, and then rooted it manually? The signed boot.img sees unsigned recovery img and throws up that tampered flag. It's not going to affect the working of the device, so why worry about it? You can flash the boot image from my stock rooted if you want it to go away.
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Please don't anyone on the 2.10 HBOOT flash this! Please remove this attachment.
EDIT: This post is what I mean. You have to understand what the Bootloader Customizer actually does (which is explained in the thread) and know that flashing this would bork all the things. This is literally a 2.09 HBOOT. The 2.10 HBOOT is what accommodates the new partition layout, so flashing this will break that and prevent the device from booting up. The issue is the signed boot.img. That's why you see the tampered flag. I assume you're not using my stock rooted? You updated directly from RUU, and then rooted it manually? The signed boot.img sees unsigned recovery img and throws up that tampered flag. It's not going to affect the working of the device, so why worry about it? You can flash the boot image from my stock rooted if you want it to go away.
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I flashed everything from your post.
I just want the word Tampered gone, don't care if it's done officially or just visually through some other mod.
I currently am S-Off, Locked and says Tampered.
bryanu said:
I flashed everything from your post.
I just want the word Tampered gone, don't care if it's done officially or just visually through some other mod.
I currently am S-Off, Locked and says Tampered.
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Do a nandroid and then unlock your bootloader.
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Do a nandroid and then unlock your bootloader.
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So I have "Tampered" because I am not unlocked?
Take this from a guy who has had 6 replacement phones and 4 of them hard bricked. QualcomDownload Mode. Lol.
Anyways I wanted to get rid of the tampered flag so I did what shouldnt be done and used the One's tool with aroma and only chose to remove rltampered flag.
It worked.
Note that that was my other phone before I hard bricked it but that was because I messed up my EFS folder.
Im not saying that anyone should use it. Do at your own risk I sure did and I just used it on my replacement evo after doing soff.
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chemjb said:
Take this from a guy who has had 6 replacement phones and 4 of them hard bricked. QualcomDownload Mode. Lol.
Anyways I wanted to get rid of the tampered flag so I did what shouldnt be done and used the One's tool with aroma and only chose to remove rltampered flag.
It worked.
Note that that was my other phone before I hard bricked it but that was because I messed up my EFS folder.
Im not saying that anyone should use it. Do at your own risk I sure did and I just used it on my replacement evo after doing soff.
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I had already given up and just installed terminal emulator on my phone and ran the following as su:
echo -ne '\x00' | dd of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7 bs=1 seek=4265988
that got rid of it properly without requiring any flashing, fake boot loader modifications etc.
@bryanu: just for my own education, what does that actually do when you type that in terminal. Meaning, I know you said it removes the "tamper" word, but how does it do it. If it is to lengthy to answer, no problem. Just wondering... Thanks!
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puhiniho said:
@bryanu: just for my own education, what does that actually do when you type that in terminal. Meaning, I know you said it removes the "tamper" word, but how does it do it. If it is to lengthy to answer, no problem. Just wondering... Thanks!
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It resets the flag that controls that showing or not essentially.
bryanu said:
I had already given up and just installed terminal emulator on my phone and ran the following as su:
echo -ne '\x00' | dd of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7 bs=1 seek=4265988
that got rid of it properly without requiring any flashing, fake boot loader modifications etc.
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Worked like a charm ,
Thanks