Titanium 97 HD fatal flaw? - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey I took a punt and bought a titanium 97 the one with the nice screen 2048 x 1536 (retina level PPI)
Anyho the device is OK a bit heavy but not bad for the money (you get what you pay for). The big issue so far is that when you buy the device its display is in "normal" mode. I found out that it means the resolution is actually set to 1600 x 1200. That's fine and there is a setting to change it to HD mode. When you so the device reboots into full 2048 x 1536.
The problem is that in the HD mode the device is almost unusable. The lag is epic. The browser is a total right off. Also in HD mode there are moments where the screen just has a senior moment and flickers madly. This is very visible when entering text or pressing menu within the browser.
Out of HD mode the device is OK. But its annoying that you buy a device due to the screen and you then can't use it.
The only other thing so far is that the WiFi is shocking (is you must be in the same room as the router) and there are a few force closes even on things like the over air archos update software.
If anyone wants me to test anything let me know.

because archos used a cpu that dosen't support that res. see here
http://www.youtube.com/#/playlist?l...ylist?list=PLL59ob_0sWvsZKwHsOkd5FQJp1xlCKqvc
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indie13 said:
Hey I took a punt and bought a titanium 97 the one with the nice screen 2048 x 1536 (retina level PPI)
Anyho the device is OK a bit heavy but not bad for the money (you get what you pay for). The big issue so far is that when you buy the device its display is in "normal" mode. I found out that it means the resolution is actually set to 1600 x 1200. That's fine and there is a setting to change it to HD mode. When you so the device reboots into full 2048 x 1536.
The problem is that in the HD mode the device is almost unusable. The lag is epic. The browser is a total right off. Also in HD mode there are moments where the screen just has a senior moment and flickers madly. This is very visible when entering text or pressing menu within the browser.
Out of HD mode the device is OK. But its annoying that you buy a device due to the screen and you then can't use it.
The only other thing so far is that the WiFi is shocking (is you must be in the same room as the router) and there are a few force closes even on things like the over air archos update software.
If anyone wants me to test anything let me know.
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Same problem for me in HD mode... I `m waiting for a responce from archos technical support.

Maca does your check for software update fail when you try it?

yes indie13, fail with "code -4".
My kernel version is :
3.0.8+ [email protected] #309
SMP PREEMPT 20 december 2012 15:03:25
Build number:
RK30_ANDROID4.1.1-SDK-v1.00.00
JRO3H 20121220.151410
Android version :4.1.1
Other bug found on settings app:
- in wireless & networks -> more : Mobile networks menu is ENABLED but terminal has only wifi !!!
- in wireless & networks -> Portable hotspot : menu is ENABLED (why?) and clicking application crash!
I have written one message to archos technical support and so far have had no response
HD mode is really unusable due lag , flashes & artifacts on rendering.
I'm hoping for a new stable firmware.
A positive note:
Upgrading "Archos video" app seems improve playback on HD mode.

maca77 said:
yes indie13, fail with "code -4".
My kernel version is :
3.0.8+ [email protected] #309
SMP PREEMPT 20 december 2012 15:03:25
Build number:
RK30_ANDROID4.1.1-SDK-v1.00.00
JRO3H 20121220.151410
Android version :4.1.1
Other bug found on settings app:
- in wireless & networks -> more : Mobile networks menu is ENABLED but terminal has only wifi !!!
- in wireless & networks -> Portable hotspot : menu is ENABLED (why?) and clicking application crash!
I have written one message to archos technical support and so far have had no response
HD mode is really unusable due lag , flashes & artifacts on rendering.
I'm hoping for a new stable firmware.
A positive note:
Upgrading "Archos video" app seems improve playback on HD mode.
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Maca we are very much on the same page. I've got the same firmware and the same bugs as you. I also found the browser bombs out if you go into debug mode and then try and change settings. It really does feel like a rushed ROM.
There is no sense of project butter anywhere to be found on the ROM. By using a tasks manager and limiting the number of active processes in the menu I be got a pretty OK experience in non HD mode.
Re video I use MX player which IMHO is the best out there. Also dumped the stock keyboard, using Kii instead and I'm using Apex launcher to replace the stock as it has more options and seems more stable. The YouTube app doesn't seem to play well could be lack of power or something.
But all in all I'm not unhappy with my purchase. I came from an Asus Transformer Prime and then Infinity and both had massive problems with the tegra processor. The web experience of this device with the stock browser is similar in terms of performance to either of those two high end devices I had before. You get what you pay for really but seeing as this didn't cost me £600 like the infinity its hard to dislike it in the same way.

Just got a firmware update. Something has changed as the device feels a lot quicker. I have a feeling they have done something to the CPU speed as it is quick but burning through battery at a pace now.
HD mode seems to work better but still has big freakouts when you open a menu on a webpage in browser or even open the settings in browser.
Youtube seems to work now whereas it didn't really before.
Navigating home screens and swiping away apps has benn speed up a lot

I came back just to write you that I discovered that there was a firmware released on 20130130 !
update.zip : download in progress....
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http://update.archos.com/10/elements/a97titanium/changes_firmware.htm
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Archos 97 titanium HD
Firmware changes
Version 20130130.111032 - February 06st, 2013
Improve wifi for devices showing low sensitivity
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No one changelogs for HD mode reported!

Out of HD mode, is the tablet smooth and fast?
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Steve, out of HD mode the device isnt bad. Browsing seems fast and fluid with the stock browser, chrome is a little slow. Even in 'Normal mode' you are still getting 1600 x 1200 res which inst too bad. in many ways its a better browsing experience than my Transformer Infinity which cost a lot more!
There are a few hiccups with the device and a few force closes, but you get what you pay for. An example for you is....at the moment i cant access the display option in settings as it force closes but if i were to do a wipe on the device it comes back.
Also bear in mind that this is only the 2nd release firmware so there is scope for it to get better, in terms of the old force close and HD mode.
By the way i ran in HD mode for a few days after the last firmware install and although the screen went mad every now and again it wasnt as bad as on the first firmware and also the device was still pretty quick so i could almost live with it. The only reason i came out of HD mode again was that the battery life in HD mode was very very more, at some points i seemed to be losing 1 % of battery every 2 minutes. Out of HD mode the battery seems more reasonable.
Hope this helps.

indie13 said:
Steve, out of HD mode the device isnt bad. Browsing seems fast and fluid with the stock browser, chrome is a little slow. Even in 'Normal mode' you are still getting 1600 x 1200 res which inst too bad. in many ways its a better browsing experience than my Transformer Infinity which cost a lot more!
There are a few hiccups with the device and a few force closes, but you get what you pay for. An example for you is....at the moment i cant access the display option in settings as it force closes but if i were to do a wipe on the device it comes back.
Also bear in mind that this is only the 2nd release firmware so there is scope for it to get better, in terms of the old force close and HD mode.
By the way i ran in HD mode for a few days after the last firmware install and although the screen went mad every now and again it wasnt as bad as on the first firmware and also the device was still pretty quick so i could almost live with it. The only reason i came out of HD mode again was that the battery life in HD mode was very very more, at some points i seemed to be losing 1 % of battery every 2 minutes. Out of HD mode the battery seems more reasonable.
Hope this helps.
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Yes it does. I have a major love hate relationship with my g9. Love it when it works smooth, but that's not a lot of time. Does the 97 have Bluetooth and GPS?
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No Steave, no BT and GPS on Titanium 97 HD.

Thanks.
Hmmm, if I could get my 80g9 to the point the GPS was reliable and work with oryxmaps I would pick up a 97.
My GPS in my tablet now is flakey.
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Hi Guys,
I have been looking at getting the Titanium 97 HD for a few weeks now. I have been trying to look for reviews. There has been a lot of people stating that it cannot operate at such a high resolution with the CPU and GPU implemented. It is nice to see the posts above stating actual experiences with this.
I was willing to give this tablet a chance based on the price point, but I do not think I will now. I am disappointed that it does not have GPS or BT.
BTW, I am still thinking about getting the Gen10 80 xs with keyboard cover for my son. I think this tablet should be ok for him to use for gaming and his homework. He is only 8 and it should be fine for his needs.
/Rick78

I'm starting to wish i had waited for the Platinum 97 (or 116) as that device is basically the same as the Titanium 97 just with a quad core CPU and mini HDMI. I bet the Quad core will be able to handle the HD mode and that could be due to the extra cores and the different CPU model.
All in all, out of HD mode the device is very usable! I take it to meetings at work, use it for Citrix and mobile email. The Browser is very solid and better than my old Asus Infinity. Also i'd said this before but even in Normal Mode, the resolution is still ok at 1600 x 1200, higher than you would get on a nexus 7 for example.
I do have some massive light bleed on the bottom edge of the screen which is lucky hidden in landscape mode by the notification bar. In Portrait mode it is very noticeable and i hear others are having problems with the same thing.
I really find it hard to hate. I think this is due to the price and the fact that the stock browser experience is very very solid! (this is my 6th Tablet after 3 transformers, an Advent Vega and a nexus 7)
If you have any questions or want me to test anything please ask.

Here is a little video review
I'm very happy with this tablet, I had Galaxy Tab 8.9, various cheap china 7-10 inch tablets, previous Archos models like 101 G9 and done short term test with even more models like Note 10. And Archos 97 HD is the first Android tablet with a decent screen for web browsing and magazines, the first to offer a decent performance. Especially for an Android device, because they all lag and have lots of problems, but this Archos 97 impressed me with smoothness then loading web pages and scrolling through magazines. The first Android tablet that is actually pleasant to use.
The only complaint is lack of bluetooth and a decent video decoding hardware support, but other then that it's the very first decent Android tablet, because all the previous Android tablets were total peace of crap, mainly because of low res screens and very poor performance, lots of lags and crap with older versions before Jelly Bean.

to me it's ok for it's price.
Hi!
To me this tablet seems still good for it's price, it's price, here where i live, has even been dropped from 225 € to 199 €, which saddens me because i was an early buyer.
Hd mode i find unusable, but couldn't care less, since normal mode is good enough resolution-wise. Battery drops few or even 1% over night when in standby mode, but gaming eats power up very quickly.
5Mb camera is ok, though to my taste images suffer from too strong edge sharpening algorithm being applied to them.
What concerns me most, and the reason why i post is, the device is new (or exotic?) and i cannot find custom firmware for it on the net, yet.
Does anybody know a good howto for rooting this tablet? I'm n00b, can google, though.
Other than that for quality tablet i'd take nexus7 - i like the 7" dimension better - easier to hold with one hand. For price under 200 € i'd consider titanium 97, still.
Cheers!

veeall said:
Hi!
To me this tablet seems still good for it's price, it's price, here where i live, has even been dropped from 225 € to 199 €, which saddens me because i was an early buyer.
Hd mode i find unusable, but couldn't care less, since normal mode is good enough resolution-wise. Battery drops few or even 1% over night when in standby mode, but gaming eats power up very quickly.
5Mb camera is ok, though to my taste images suffer from too strong edge sharpening algorithm being applied to them.
What concerns me most, and the reason why i post is, the device is new (or exotic?) and i cannot find custom firmware for it on the net, yet.
Does anybody know a good howto for rooting this tablet? I'm n00b, can google, though.
Other than that for quality tablet i'd take nexus7 - i like the 7" dimension better - easier to hold with one hand. For price under 200 € i'd consider titanium 97, still.
Cheers!
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It looks decent but lack of GPS and Bluetooth is a deal breaker. I guess I can use an external GPS receiver via sub can I?
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ASUS Benelux launch party wrap-up (some interesting info)

Just been to the ASUS Benelux launch party and I had the chance to talk with the System Marketing manager at ASUS.
I added some more info (RED):
- I asked him about the GPS. He admitted that it is a hardware "failure" because of the aluminum back and that it will never reach the desired standard. However, he said they will NOT remove the GPS from the device and try to fix it a little with some more software updates. But he really pressed on the fact that they will NOT remove the GPS as rumored here...
- There were two ICS tablets present which he told were shipped from the Taiwan developers only for this launch and are send back later this weekend. The development menus were still present and next to the "eco", "balanced" and "normal" mode in the menu, I could also select a development mode. I wondered what this did to the tablet, but after some investigation in the settings menu it turned out that it clocked the CPU cores to 1.5GHZ or 1.6GHZ (see images below). This explains the tablets in the benchmarks Furthermore, there were alot of other development options, like forcing hardware acceleration to all applications (including 2D content). I ask him if the higher clock function will also be available in the retail ICS version, but sadly I won't But it shows that the tablet can easily be clocked higher than 1.4GHZ I tried to film the menus but the video turned out a bit fuzzy, if you want I can upload it tomorrow to youtube.
- They hooked up the tablet to a 3d tv and beamer and we could play 3d movies and riptide on it Was really nice and smooth!!
- Interesting fact he told too: The early development units of the Transformer Prime had a subwoofer built in the keyboard. However, these are removed from the retail versions
- I said the speakers were much better compared to the TF1. He explained that they made a design error there as the TF1 did have the same sized speakers but on one side it was in a much more cramped space. Therefore, they couldn't create the same size of resonance chambers as on the other side. This explains the difference in the loudness and bass of the sound on one of the sides like many users reported. He also told that they tried to patch that a little with levelling software, but it was a hardware issue. Therefore, to prevent the same problem, they opted for speakers on only one side on the TP.
- An entertainment dock for the TP will be introduced aswell. This is just some sort of a big speaker with a larger subwoofer where you can attach your prime to.
- Next to the origami sleeve, a full body sleeve will be introduced which will cover the tablet and the dock. That one will cost about €50,-
Maybe I forgot something, so questions... please ask!
Images are really large so I just linked to them:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/91/201201062000521.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7373/201201062001011.jpg
VIDEO ADDED (A BIT OUT OF FOCUS) but in the last part you can see a bit of the ICS UI on the TP, I will add another one which show the new task manager:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUDAalMwCuw&context=C3d100a6ADOEgsToPDskKACJiRPST2zNh3foSHjofa
Nice heads-up
Have you actually had the chance to play with a HC Prime before?
If so can you tell us if you noticed differences in speed and all those things?
I am pretty sure we can re-activate that dev-mode via custom ROMs
Did you see whether that powersaving - contrast reducing - broken feature when changing to powersave mode is present in ICS?
How about the custom Quicksettingsbar, does it look like the HC one?
Yes I have one myself and they had a few HC versions there too Sadly I did not noticed alot of speed differences between HC and ICS. Neither did other people who were testing them. It was still really smooth however, maybe the transitions were bit smoother than HC and the browser was a big improvement (no lag ). Also the keyboard lag was almost gone completely. But in terms of speed that was it, I think. Keep in mind that this was still a development version It did had alot less FCs than HC.
The quick settings bar was exactly the same as in the HC version (but with the Roboto font). I do not know about the power-saving feature, did not really paid attention to that but I did not see anything bad or funny happen when I switched to it (it did reduced the brightness like normal)...
dev mode
there are other things for dev mode like power saving being disabled, no timeout for screen and wifi always on, that sort of thing.
jptech said:
there are other things for dev mode like power saving being disabled, no timeout for screen and wifi always on, that sort of thing.
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Yes true, I will upload the video tomorrow (getting late now and it is a large file). It is not very good quality but it shows the UI a bit and if you look carefully you can read the DEV menu settings
flight777 said:
Yes I have one myself and they had a few HC versions there too Sadly I did not noticed alot of speed differences between HC and ICS. Neither did other people who were testing them. It was still really smooth however, maybe the transitions were bit smoother than HC and the browser was a big improvement (no lag ). Also the keyboard lag was almost gone completely. But in terms of speed that was it, I think. Keep in mind that this was still a development version It did had alot less FCs than HC.
The quick settings bar was exactly the same as in the HC version (but with the Roboto font). I do not know about the power-saving feature, did not really paid attention to that but I did not see anything bad or funny happen when I switched to it (it did reduced the brightness like normal)...
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Nice to hear. Dev versions are normally way slower than release builds. So if the dev version runs the same speed we can be pretty sure ICS won't leave much place for complaints
jptech said:
there are other things for dev mode like power saving being disabled, no timeout for screen and wifi always on, that sort of thing.
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Yea but those things are normal for any Android device. But ICS has way more options, that's pretty cool
Bedankt!
Did they also tell if the OC function was going to be a option in the final version which we get via OTA? Would be pretty cool, less need to root/unlock at least.
JoeyLe said:
Bedankt!
Did they also tell if the OC function was going to be a option in the final version which we get via OTA? Would be pretty cool, less need to root/unlock at least.
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Graag gedaan
Nope it won't like I said in the original post, only for ASUS devs At least, that was what he said... But I think our XDA devs have no problem to restore this feature
Did you ask about the bluetooth and wifi issues
Nope, but I tested it with both my HC version, the HC version they have there and the ICS version and they there was almost no impact on WIFI performance when bluetooth was on and vice versa. Wifi was fine during the party but they also placed one of their high end routers in the center of the room
flight777 said:
It was still really smooth however, maybe the transitions were bit smoother than HC and the browser was a big improvement (no lag ).
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I think the Prime on HC is plenty smooth and fast in general and don't really expect much improvement from ICS in this regard. However, if ICS manages to make for a better stock browsing experience, I think it'll pretty much live up to my expectations.
Good to hear. Hopefully my unit will not have any problems.
Did they already fix the hdmi audio issue, multi channel only relaying to left speaker?
wynand32 said:
I think the Prime on HC is plenty smooth and fast in general and don't really expect much improvement from ICS in this regard. However, if ICS manages to make for a better stock browsing experience, I think it'll pretty much live up to my expectations.
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Yah I agree. The speed is top notch. The smoothness is just a bit below ipad standards but its fairly marginal and doesn't effect actual usage. I have been pleasantly surprised with the speed and even smoothness of HC after hearing so many complaints about it on tegra 2 and other devices. Heck even text input for me has been very good.
I wonder if they fixed:
1. browser bookmarks sync function, which simply does NOT work
2. battery details on apps in the settings does not work. We need to see app battery usage, not just system processes. ICS has a greatly advanced function they showed at the ICS conference, it better make it into the tablet and Asus better have improved the kernel to collect and display the data with the cool new ICS battery usage display
3. we need more and better widgets as the selection is a joke
YES! I love posts like these from people on the inside. Another reason to love xda so much. I'm really interested in that Dev. overclocking mode. if its said it can easily be clocked over 1.4Ghz then with developers here we might could possibly see 2Ghz or a lil higher. of course stability and heat is a major factor. This is all great news. plus I like how they said they will still release software updates to improve GPS as best as possible. ICS sounds like its nice also. Thanks again for this info OP. Prime seems to get better by the day. Plus I got my NEODROID(NeoGeo emulator) installed. we on a roll
edit: I wonder if those overclocks are across the board, all 4 cores, or on a single core. regardless it'll be faster n more powerful. I WANT IT NOW! lol
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Nope, but I tested it with both my HC version, the HC version they have there and the ICS version and they there was almost no impact on WIFI performance when bluetooth was on and vice versa. Wifi was fine during the party but they also placed one of their high end routers in the center of the room
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you're not going to notice the problem with Bluetooth and Wifi both just enabled. When Bluetooth is turned-on but nothing paired and in-use for then it is just as good as being off.
You have to pair a Bluetooth device and operate it in conjunction with the Wifi,
the best way is to stream something like video (i.e. Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, Amazon) on the Prime and listen to it in stereo with some stereo Bluetooth headphones. You're going to notice the problem in 1-3 minutes.
i really wonder if we can use all5 cores at once lol!
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the_game_master said:
you're not going to notice the problem with Bluetooth and Wifi both just enabled. When Bluetooth is turned-on but nothing paired and in-use for then it is just as good as being off.
You have to pair a Bluetooth device and operate it in conjunction with the Wifi,
the best way is to stream something like video (i.e. Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, Amazon) on the Prime and listen to it in stereo with some stereo Bluetooth headphones. You're going to notice the problem in 1-3 minutes.
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I was sending some photos which I took with the prime (8mp) to my mobile and in the meanwhile was browsing the web...

Matrix ONe Tablet

Hi I was wondering if anybody else has this Matrix One Tablet its only 60 buck witth a 1.5 ghz single core cpu and 4 gb storage http://mtxone.com/products/matrixone
I got one
I just got the Matrix one7, they put it on sale for $60 as well after the old one sold out. Looks like mostly the same specs except more onboard storage. Hopefully we'll see a bit of development for it on here.
Just got mine in yesterday. Gotta say it doesn't suck. It's a good basic tablet, and that's coming from someone who's never seen the point of a tablet lol. From talking with someone in the company it's apparently sold far better then they were ready for so hopefully someone a bit more code savvy and with more time on their hands then me bought it and will do some developing for it.
I just got the Matrix One, and I am considering the Matrix One7 at the discounted price except it doesn't have HDMI out, plus the CPU and camera seem to be a downgrade. I noticed in the build.prop its model is A10_MID and device name is crane_q7, google search doesn't bring anything comparable up. What would the devs need to build for this tablet?
The tablet comes rooted out of the box so all a dev would need is source code and the kernel from the tablet but since its running vanilla Android 4.0 it should be easy I think, mines should come Thursday!!!
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I just received my two today. Decent specs abs decent tablet. Would be willing to help out devs looking to take this on.
Riding the LTE waves on my unlocked VZWGS3 !
Yea I can't wait for mines I can't really find any decent reviews so when I get mines I will surly do a in-depth review and put it through it's paces
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Just got mine. Worked at first but installed just a couple nonroot common apps and it rebooted and just spins Android splash startup screen. Bummer. Suggestions? Cant find button combo for a recovery screen.
Seems it back and get a free one it's a one year warranty
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Would like to try hard reset if possible.
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harrenb said:
Yea I can't wait for mines I can't really find any decent reviews so when I get mines I will surly do a in-depth review and put it through it's paces
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Getting mine tomorrow! CAN'T WAIT!!
Matrix One Unstable
I got mine yesterday. Was able to load the Play Store and some apps. However, after some use, it decided to randomly reboot. I performed a Factory Data reset and just got it connected to the internet, started up Skype, made a Skype video call connection and it rebooted after a few minutes. Think I have a hardware problem? Seems the network connection is unstable.
Also, where is development for this going to land? What should I be browsing on XDA?
Thanks!
I'm having problems too after more use. It seems to overheat and freeze, especially when charging. If I fully charge then use unplugged, it's OK but when on while charging, it hangs.
Secondly, it really only has 384MB RAM available, which is tight. I was getting a lot of freezing while using. I went into Developer options and restricted to 3-4 background processes and it solved that problem but it's still relatively sluggish.
This feels more like a prototype device. Is OK if you want to use for e-reading, streaming music or occasional browsing but don't expect full tablet experience.
I got mine today and after minimal use here are my comments:
My unit is labeled as the Matrix One and looks like the picture on the website. With that being said, it does not match the specs, mostly in my favor. 1. It has 1GB RAM, 2. It came shipped with 16GB and three it seems to only have a 1GHz processor.
I find the unit to be lagging with the responsiveness when I press the screen.
It gets a little warm but not anything to mention.
The webcam is real nice and the picture is very clear.
The website says "Micro USB" when in reality it is "Mini USB".
The one thing that does bug me a bit is that not all the apps are compatible with this tablet. It is running Android 4.0.3 so most should be compatible and I am not sure why it is not.
Over all I have no real impression yet but I also keep in mind that it was only $60.
^Nice, they apparently just shipped the wrong item.
I'm disappointed that it comes with mini usb when the specs say micro usb. But even more disappointing is it can't be charged via USB. It needs a wall charger.
I had low expectations of the display but in some ways I like it better than my Nexus 7, which has a glossy reflection. The touch screen isn't as responsive but is not bad when adjusting to it.
I spoke with tech support and they said they were getting rid of inventory and it was a crap shoot as to whether or not you got an S branded one which is what they gave me.
they also said this was an MID A10 compatible device and there are some CM10 build out there which would work on this.
I am trying to track those down now.
Just got mine today. First thing I can say is don't put the free case on the white one. It has already put black marks across the back of mine that don't wipe off.
Downloading and installing apps is pretty slow. It does get quite warm, but no locking up yet. The wifi connection doesn't seem all that stable.
But for $60, my kids can beat it all to hell and spare my phones and other tablets.
I wouldn't be opposed to buying one of their higher end products.
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The battery is also draining really fast. After about an hour the battery has gone from 71% to 38%.
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sushiguy732 said:
I got mine today and after minimal use here are my comments:
My unit is labeled as the Matrix One and looks like the picture on the website. With that being said, it does not match the specs, mostly in my favor. 1. It has 1GB RAM, 2. It came shipped with 16GB and three it seems to only have a 1GHz processor.
I find the unit to be lagging with the responsiveness when I press the screen.
It gets a little warm but not anything to mention.
The webcam is real nice and the picture is very clear.
The website says "Micro USB" when in reality it is "Mini USB".
The one thing that does bug me a bit is that not all the apps are compatible with this tablet. It is running Android 4.0.3 so most should be compatible and I am not sure why it is not.
Over all I have no real impression yet but I also keep in mind that it was only $60.
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xenokc said:
I'm having problems too after more use. It seems to overheat and freeze, especially when charging. If I fully charge then use unplugged, it's OK but when on while charging, it hangs.
Secondly, it really only has 384MB RAM available, which is tight. I was getting a lot of freezing while using. I went into Developer options and restricted to 3-4 background processes and it solved that problem but it's still relatively sluggish.
This feels more like a prototype device. Is OK if you want to use for e-reading, streaming music or occasional browsing but don't expect full tablet experience.
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You can clear up alot of the lag by bumping up the memory settings with apps like rom toolbox or autokiller
swapper is another good app for it, a swap file really helps with the lack of memory
Really had to start tweaking things to get it running smoothly, changed the cpu governor, upped the memory levels, and changed to holo launcher for the home screen.
One issue I have is mine reboots when I try raising the cpu speed above 1152mhz even though the max is supposed to be 1.5ghz, it's set at 1008mhz by default. Though with my settings it all of butter right now
Edit: So mine froze up while watching a video online, rebooted it and it said the encryption was corrupted and it had to factory reset
I never turned on the encryption
sushiguy732 said:
I spoke with tech support and they said they were getting rid of inventory and it was a crap shoot as to whether or not you got an S branded one which is what they gave me.
they also said this was an MID A10 compatible device and there are some CM10 build out there which would work on this.
I am trying to track those down now.
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I found this searching around http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821398 maybe it will work.
mijoja said:
I found this searching around http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821398 maybe it will work.
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I'm willing to try. Will Clockwork install directly from ROM Manager?

Venue 8 3840 issues + solution.

A lot of complaints of lag and freezing seem to be due to not enough random access memory. Shame that a nicely built tablet with great specs (Qi charging, 64-bit processor, vanilla Android) would be useless to many because of this issue.
I got one for $133 new from the Dell outlet with a sweet case for $15 both in red and gave it to Mom for Christmas, knowing that for her use it would be acceptable.
Here's what I found and how I've gotten the tablet to work great and have none of the issues.
1. Stick with the stock KK launcher. Forget Google Now or Nova as these use up too much memory.
2. The stock browser seems to work the best. Dolphin, Boat and others have been reported to be problem free too. Chrome is a no go.
3. Under Developer options shut off the animations as well as limit the background processes.
4. Disable anything you'll never use, and only install the apps needed.
5. Under "Google" account and "search" make sure Google Now is off.
These things may be self evident to some, but you will notice a night and day difference in the way this particular tablet operates if you stick to those things. At $130 it can't be beat.
Apologies for responding to my own post, just wanted to update, apparently Dell pushed out a OTA update recently that updated the kernel and the thing is much improved if not downright zippy now. Still would stick with my suggestions as I've noticed while Chrome may be somewhat usable it will still freeze.
Thanks for the tips. Despite the horrible reviews, I just ordered one from Amazon Warehouse for $75 Very Good condition. At that price, it is worth taking the plunge.
Use the stock browser keep off any RAM hogging apps and you'll like it. For $168 total I got a red one , the official red case and the dell wireless charger. Can't beat that price. It particularly excels as a movie watching device for travel. Good size and format, great battery life and storage with an optional SD card, and a 1080p screen. Seems to handle video playback really well too, stutter free.
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We're taking it on the plane for movies in 3 weeks, so that'll be perfect. Have you tried rooting and Greenify app? That could further help keep the background processes in check. I have a 1st gen; wife will get the 2nd gen, but if I like it enough, I might get another one for myself.
No I haven't mainly because of the amount of bricks being reported. Too much headache and since its my mothers there's no point. Lol. You'll love it for watching movies I swear they look better than on my Nexus 9. Maybe that Intel video enhancer or whatever its got really works well. The speakers are loud and sound great too.
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So I've had the tablet for a week now. The amount of bloatware pre-installed was insane. I was surprised since the 1st gen 3830 came with almost zero. After disabling all bloatware and all google apps, disabling animations, disable sync, disable backup & restore, it's running fairly well. Chrome browser is definitely not happening. Stock browser is good, but opening multiple tabs is still guaranteed to make the tablet lag.
All in all, this is a great tablet for someone who only does one thing at a time (No multiple browser tabs and switching back and forth between apps). 1920 x 1200 Screen is awesome, build quality fantastic, thin and fairly light, 802.11ac wireless, wireless charging, almost pure Android, and good enough battery life. This thing is perfect for my wife and was a steal at $75 from Amazon Warehouse. Got a $7 case from eBay and my wife is loving it. It's a big upgrade from her Nexus 7 2012.
That being said, I will not be picking another one up for myself unless we get a magic update that makes it as fast as my 3830. I like to multitask, so that's priority for me.
P.S. After all updates, I ran Antutu and the tab scored 33,000 vs 24,000 for my 3830. Sadly, real world experience doesn't reflect this.
waingro808 said:
So I've had the tablet for a week now. The amount of bloatware pre-installed was insane. I was surprised since the 1st gen 3830 came with almost zero. After disabling all bloatware and all google apps, disabling animations, disable sync, disable backup & restore, it's running fairly well. Chrome browser is definitely not happening. Stock browser is good, but opening multiple tabs is still guaranteed to make the tablet lag.
All in all, this is a great tablet for someone who only does one thing at a time (No multiple browser tabs and switching back and forth between apps). 1920 x 1200 Screen is awesome, build quality fantastic, thin and fairly light, 802.11ac wireless, wireless charging, almost pure Android, and good enough battery life. This thing is perfect for my wife and was a steal at $75 from Amazon Warehouse. Got a $7 case from eBay and my wife is loving it. It's a big upgrade from her Nexus 7 2012.
That being said, I will not be picking another one up for myself unless we get a magic update that makes it as fast as my 3830. I like to multitask, so that's priority for me.
P.S. After all updates, I ran Antutu and the tab scored 33,000 vs 24,000 for my 3830. Sadly, real world experience doesn't reflect this.
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Lol, my mother went from my hand me down N7(2012) to this and so far, with the way I've set it up, she likes it for her style of use. It really is a shame as if the darn thing had 3 (gasp!) gigs of Ram it would be a killer little tablet, the fact that you can pick them up so cheap is another huge plus.
Hi! CJ, I have a Dell Venue 8 3840, and for some reason I'm unaware of, it's WIFI, & BLUETOOTH, have completely being "lost", I.E. the icons, the Settings options etc.... Have " disappeared ".
I would be most grateful for your advice on it's recovery.
Thanks & regards,
Mahil.
Hmmm, never heard of that happening before. I could ask you a bunch of questions to see what may have caused it but instead my advice would be do a reset. Under settings/back up & reset/ factory reset. Back up whatever files you don't want to lose, the cloud works great for that, and then reset. See if that brings it back.
Venue 8 touch screen freezing issue
I had bought my tablet online. It was working well initially. Then suddenly from one day the screen started to freeze once it was not in use for minimum 7-8 seconds although the tab was not hanging, just the tablet touch screen was not responding to touch.
my dell venue 8 3840 has kitkat 4.4.4. WiFi Bluetooth is not working at all. when i press on in the WiFi option, it goes to on but color doesn't change, i mean it keeps grey and it doesn't scan any WiFi signals. nothing happens on the screen. its like frozen. add device and reset options on WiFi menu are also freeze. when i come out of WiFi menu, it automatically turns off. i have already reset my tab 2 3 times to check if the issue resolves but the prob persists. advanced options are working. when i go there, it says mac address and IP address unavailable. and these options are also freeze. am not getting a clue of what has happened and how to get it fixed. plz help.
Dell Venue 8 8340 slow fix
Hey guys,
I have found a solution for the extremely slow performance of the Dell Venue 8 8340. You must disable wi-fi optimization in settings --> wifi --> advanced. After disabling this feature, the tablet runs fairly smooth with no crashing or delays. This may be a temporary fix; however, it does seem to affect the tablets performance. Also, I did not have the time to check if this fix has been posted, sorry for the repeat if it has. Please update on whether or not this tweak works for others.
Setting 'Developer Options' -> 'Background Processes' to 'At most 2 Processes' seems to help with performance. Reboots and updates sometimes reset this to the default though.
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[Q] Insignia Flex Elite 7.85" opinions

This is a new 2048x1536 clone from Best Buy. It has Rockchip RK3288 processor with a Broadcom BCM4350 WiFi AC/BT4.0/FM radio. It came with Android 5.0.1. As usual from the Chinese, the SW leaves much to be desired. In fact the Regulatory Information page is for the N9. It went the FCC as MID7802 and pictures and user manual are post there. I grabbed one for $150. I was interested since it supports HEVC/H.265. It plays them flawlessly. It scored 785 on AnTuTu video test v3.0. The speed test was 38005. Screen looks good. Now for the bad.
1. Won't turn on when off and charger connected.
2. Adaptive brightness doesn't use the control. Really bright and drains battery.
3. SDcard only accessible for stock apps. ES3 or Kodi can't see it. Probably mounted root only.
4. Camera app is really primitive. No option to record as HEVC even though HW encoding supported.
Any thoughts on this tablet and how easy or hard it would be to get a good ROM on it?
Hmm, the bad looks like stuff that could be fixed with a software update. Though I've yet to see an adaptive brightness option that was any good. I almost always adjust manually. I never really use camera functions on my tablets. The part where it won't turn on while charging is a bit disturbing though.
Battery drains while screen sleeps like crazy
decent tab
I managed to pick the flex elite 7.85" tablet up @ my local Best Buy yesterday for a discounted price of only $90 and so far very happy with it for the cost. Not sure I would be so happy at the full $150...maybe so though.
Battery life isn't the greatest even with a good battery saving app. Doesn't bother me to much though because I usually have my tabs plugged into the wall outlet.
Some things I like are the beautiful display and greatly bright lighting, makes it easy to use outside or in. Also like the quick responsiveness and sensitive touch screen. It's not so sensitive that you're accidentally hitting things you don't want to but plenty sensitive to pick up on the intentional hits. I like the thin style (only 0.3" thin, I think). Although it's plastic it feels solid and higher end in the hands. All in all it's just a decent tab for the average user...although maybe not so much for the enthusiast.
A couple things I don't like are that there are no accessories available for it at all. I'm rough on electronics (drop alot) and a good, solid case is near necessity for me. Still ticked off about dropping my Sero 7 PRO and killing it last year...man, was that ever a nice tab?!
Another thing I am a bit disenchanted with is no root instruction yet available and no ROM that I know of...been searching and hoping. I also read somewhere that it's not possible to write to the micro SD card from the tablet...if true, that really sucks! Though I rarely use a micro SD card with tabs, it's nice to be able to use them to keep onboard space freed up. I still need to buy a micro SD to test this last statement for myself, so can't guarantee the accuracy of the statement.
Anyway, decent tab that will probably fulfill my web browsing, shopping and WordPress needs for the next year so can't complain for a $90 investment. I don't expect any updates to the firmware over it's lifetime and really not to hopeful for a root instructional to be written but still pretty decent out of the box so far....I'll let you know about the possible microsd issue once I find out for myself.
OK, so I found out that the microsd card is difficult to get mounted and working correctly on this tablet (unfortunately I'm no geek). But I was finally able to use an app to xfer files after formatting the SD card to ntsf instead of fat32. Still a pita but got it working.
Now if only someone would make an easy root instructional for this thing I might actually keep it for a while
Alrighty, got one of these and so far it's been good for its price.
I can turn it off and on while charging, both sleep/wake and full power off/power on.
The brightness seems fine to me, but again I've not used adaptive as I've never had a tab with a worthwhile adaptive brightness, and I've had Nexus 7 and 9, Galaxy Tabs pro and S, and a half dozen others.
Getting an SD later today for it.
Battery life isn't great, but I'm not seeing the sleep drain I keep reading about.
As has been mentioned the SD is only visible to system apps. Unless you format it NTFS, then it can be found by other apps. Need to figure out how to make shortcuts/symbolic links so it can be reached from areas other than /mnt as I think some apps expect it to show up in the storage folder and other places.
It's fast and snappy. Display is crisp & nice and bright and is the perfect size. I too am seeing unexpected battery drain overnight (losing 50% of battery) while the tablet is sleeping. I wish the battery lasted longer on standby as my needs are to read to fall asleep and then wake up and study - the Tab A has a longer lasting battery than this. Takes a long time to boot up if it's entirely shut down. It refuses to run Netflix either in the Netflix app nor in the browser. I have all the latest updates of the OS plus Netflix but it's not working. It's a shame but I am today returning it to BestBuy due to the Netflix issue which I consider a core app. WINS: Display is awesome and CPU speed is very good! CONS: Won't play Netflix, battery life is weak, takes long to boot up.
still no sign of 4rd party rooms?
in the market for something to replace my POS dell 8 tablet. can anyone say how insignia is on updates? will this get 6?
Oma has made a rom for it at arctablet.com
bbobb said:
Oma has made a rom for it at arctablet.com
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link?
cannot post links.
google 'insignia flex elite oma root'
should be top result.
Got to page 4, post 49.
micro sdcard should be formatted ntfs
i just bought this tablet used
i think my rom is hosed, it has a system process kill at startup and it is very laggy. it also shuts down is left to sleep for more then 5min. a factory reset doesnt change anything... but ive seen this before... nothing short of a full rom wipe fixes it. that's the real danger of chinese tablets, if you hose the os there is no way to fix it...
im trying to root it and put oma rom on it, to see if that fixes the software issues. i dont think its hardware, because once im in a game or app it runs lightning quick. even games like mortal kombat with their high end graphics run smooth... its really somethin on this screen.
boot time SUCKS on this tablet. like, 4min or something. what the hell insignia? you cant optimize this rom even a little bit?
I like the tablet. I have seen several software updates (didn't check the build numbers) before I flashed Oma's ROM. It still has a long boot time, but if you go to the developer options, and turn off the animation options, it feels pretty fast (definitely faster than anything that is even close to this price range). Oma's current rom doesn't fix the Netflix app issue. Maybe an update can figure out what the conflict is?
superhumvee said:
I like the tablet. I have seen several software updates (didn't check the build numbers) before I flashed Oma's ROM. It still has a long boot time, but if you go to the developer options, and turn off the animation options, it feels pretty fast (definitely faster than anything that is even close to this price range). Oma's current rom doesn't fix the Netflix app issue. Maybe an update can figure out what the conflict is?
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I just got one yesterday. I didn't update to the December update, but I flashed oma's rom (pretty sure I did?), rooted with king root and then replaced with super su and the boot up time is much much faster than stock. I want to say less than a minute vs. close to 3 or 4 before.
I bought two of these used off eBay, both seem to suffer from sound stutter/slight freeze ups once in awhile. I've reset both and made sure they are running the current OTA update.
It seems to mostly do it for Youtube and YouTube for Kids, but notice it once in awhile during some more graphic intense games. Which surprises me as from the specs at least this should be a pretty decent budget tablet.
I just picked up a "seller refurbished" on from Ebay -- there are a *ton* of them up there at the moment. It actually looks pretty decent. The battery life is *horrible* (about 4 hours of SOT for reading or web surfing), but the rest of the flaws can be worked around.
First off was setting the window animations to zero, as suggested here earlier, followed by KingRoot and SU substitution (also as suggested). Then, from the Store:
- SDFix:KitKat Writable MicroSD and
- Folder Mount
combined to let me store app data on the microSD.
- FlashFire did a great job of installing Xposed Framework and from there I can tweak to my hearts' content (Greenify, GravityBox, and XSSID Indicator so far)!
Right now, it looks like your best bet would be Oma's rom that someone mentioned earlier, which would be rooted and let you do some customization. I don't use KingRoot because there's some report that the software collects data on you without your consent. What with all the rumors about Xiaomi snooping on you and China's officially-sanctioned practices in cyber space, you don't want to assume unnecessary risks. Bad enough that Uncle Sam is looking over your shoulder, but China?? Do the math!
Back to the matter at hand. Looks like your tab will be stuck with Lollipop forever (1) because the sales of this model is low enough not to stimulate any interest in developing custom roms; (2) manufacturer's support is non-existent (I mean literally non-existent); (3) if you get a representative to answer, the person doesn't know enough to say anything beyond what's in the manual; and (4) they categorically refuse to release even a stock rom for the user to restore where the tab is bricked by their own OTA updates!!! What sets them apart is that I know of no other reputable manufacturer that would so adamantly oppose such potential remedies. Unbelievable! The only recourse is warranty - which means if you're outside that period, you're toast, even if the hardware is in perfectly working order.
To recap, absolutely no support and no update. Promulgating a policy that drives away consumers is of course their prerogative, but why they care so much about losing business is beyond me. So think hard before shelling out for their products. Low prices and enticing specs ain't worth crap if the tablet doesn't work at all.

Thinking of purchasing Xiaomi MI Pad

Hello there,
I mainly want this tablet only for two purposes, one is browsing and another is watching movies.
But i just came to know that this tablet has an aspect ration of 4:3 and watching movies in this tablet will cause the movies to end up with two black spaces on either side.
Will this take away the experience of watching a movie? Other than from Browsing(which i'v heard this tablet is very good) my main usage is at watching Youtube videos and Movies.
Can any of you be kind enough to tell me about these and if this tablet is still good enough to purchase?
Regards,
Adi4u4882
I have this tablet. Its great. Had I known it would NEVER get updated to Android 5 or Android 6.. I would never have bought it. Dont be deceived by the updates it gets now. Those are just APP updates. Since it launched what about 2 years ago now its still on Android 4.4.4.
I would buy something else.. In the long run its worth it.
I have bought this tablet for my wife. Good thing was that i had few days for myself to test it. The big worry was that it will come all in China language and no Play store. As it turns out not to worry. There was English as default (even Polish was an option) and there was Google Play. All works superb. For this price its a bargain of the year. My wife use this tablet for imgur, google books and games so she is more then happy.
The only small problem... If you ever will want to do factory reset you need to have a google keyboard app ready. After FR there is no keyboard at all... so you cant connect to wifi and you have to have app on the sdcard.
Thats all from me.
For somebody who is not bother with the old software (kitkat) then this is a perfect tablet.
Zeblade said:
I have this tablet. Its great. Had I known it would NEVER get updated to Android 5 or Android 6.. I would never have bought it. Dont be deceived by the updates it gets now. Those are just APP updates. Since it launched what about 2 years ago now its still on Android 4.4.4.
I would buy something else.. In the long run its worth it.
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Hey, can you explain what you mean? As far i know, Miui 7 was released sometime now and its based on Lolipop. Its available for Mipad here-> http://en.miui.com/download-229.html
What he means is that MIUI 7 for MiPad is based on KitKat.
Ya for watching movies it is a little odd one. In case of YouTube it's fine
Then about KitKat OMDG PLZ its crap
Don't know whether you are a nerd or not..... Any way its been 2months iam using it and here is my verdict
Pros:
1. Blistering performance
2. Nvidia CPU and GPU are doing best for a hand
held device.
3. Gaming is a whole new level
4. LG battery is a true power source for long time and
charge up quickly
6. Display is decend under direct sunlight.
Cons:
1. selecting Bluetooth from multiple windows closes
most of the time.
2. Brightness sometimes have its own idea about
changing to full blast ( don't say that auto
brightness is on or off ,I know well about how it
works)
3. Background app has limit ( even developer option
only gives choosing between number limits and
standard limit)
4. Background apps stops most of the times ( even
the second one in background stops occasionally)
5. Connecting to internet via Bluetooth devices has its
own mind about disconnecting all the times.
6. Camera didn't work always, its not stock camera
app, all apps for camera won't work occasionally
which inturn points culprit as nasty hardware
problem
7. All keys on bezel (back,home,multiple window) are
not good in response which is an inconvenience .
(you can use many soft key apps instead which
iam using now)
8. Mi Ui is not good(awful) which always take quiet a
time to load up if we prefer to go home directly.
9. Screen shot appear as a widget not a combination
keys which is inconvenient and annoying many
times
10. Entire system some times ( once in
thousand) slows in terms of performance.
11. Quiet a lot of heat builds up on gaming.
12. Last not least....... OMDG plz get rid of the that
stupid KitKat OS plz plz plz.....
naseeb sha said:
Ya for watching movies it is a little odd one. In case of YouTube it's fine
Then about KitKat OMDG PLZ its crap
Don't know whether you are a nerd or not..... Any way its been 2months iam using it and here is my verdict
Pros:
1. Blistering performance
2. Nvidia CPU and GPU are doing best for a hand
held device.
3. Gaming is a whole new level
4. LG battery is a true power source for long time and
charge up quickly
6. Display is decend under direct sunlight.
Cons:
1. selecting Bluetooth from multiple windows closes
most of the time.
2. Brightness sometimes have its own idea about
changing to full blast ( don't say that auto
brightness is on or off ,I know well about how it
works)
3. Background app has limit ( even developer option
only gives choosing between number limits and
standard limit)
4. Background apps stops most of the times ( even
the second one in background stops occasionally)
5. Connecting to internet via Bluetooth devices has its
own mind about disconnecting all the times.
6. Camera didn't work always, its not stock camera
app, all apps for camera won't work occasionally
which inturn points culprit as nasty hardware
problem
7. All keys on bezel (back,home,multiple window) are
not good in response which is an inconvenience .
(you can use many soft key apps instead which
iam using now)
8. Mi Ui is not good(awful) which always take quiet a
time to load up if we prefer to go home directly.
9. Screen shot appear as a widget not a combination
keys which is inconvenient and annoying many
times
10. Entire system some times ( once in
thousand) slows in terms of performance.
11. Quiet a lot of heat builds up on gaming.
12. Last not least....... OMDG plz get rid of the that
stupid KitKat OS plz plz plz.....
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Ty for the post mate, i was thinking to buy the device but i was hoping that miui 7 is based on Lollipop (that apparently itsnot) and that the tablet could be a bit more solid. I will check for something else, take care
As far as device being stuck with KitKat -- are there any specific apps you wanted to run on the tablet and couldn't because they require the newer OS?
Without going the CM route, can the Google Launcher be installed on it?
Funny enough that my wife did want this tablet to be her candy crash saga device she couldnt install it from playstore. We had to download an older version and put the apk on the device and then i installed. Apart from that all the apps she is using on htc one (LP) she is using on MIPad
lanc3lot said:
Hey, can you explain what you mean? As far i know, Miui 7 was released sometime now and its based on Lolipop. Its available for Mipad here-> http://en.miui.com/download-229.html
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Global Stable Build only. AFAIK it will still be based on kitkat.
Have it since its release.
Its fantastic .
Great sound for movies and music.
Runs any game smoothly.
Browsing is effortlessly.
Nice is nice , not to big not to small.
Overall if you want a tablet that will just perform without hiccups then this is a good option.
eventhough this device has cm12.1 port but still its not for daily driver. xiaomi doesn't even release the sources.
I was really looking forward to buying this device keeping in mind the specs & pricing. Cant really decide if i should buy this Mipad or wait for the Mipad 2.
So far the the Mipad 2 only offers a mild upgrade in terms of processor (whose gaming performance I'm totally unsure of) & build quality. Infact the lack of expandable memory slot rather makes want to avoid waiting for the mipad 2.
Although Mipad is stuck on Kitkat, the fine Nvidia gpu makes sure it can run any game you throw at it with ease. The real question is with the lack of updates from xiaomi, how long will mipad continue to be a master amongst gaming tablets ?
Please suggest me if I should buy this device or if there is anything better in the market around this price range, considering this device is almost 2 years old now.
You know what, as the micro-USB charging port on my Teclast P70 started to malfunction less than a year of use in, I've grown more fond of the Type-C connector. While wherever MiPad 2 being an upgrade over MiPad in terms of the raw power is arguable, the Type-C connector and newer OS would sway me to by a MiPad 2.
Yes
I'm regret too. Better buy NVidia Shield Tab. :crying::crying:
Its Great
Its a great device for media consumption , browsing , watching movies and playing games but not so good in terms of multitasking as MIUI is quite heavy and it has only 2GB ram but it does all other things smoothly without issues ! In this price range , atleast i think this is the best
adi4u4882 said:
Hello there,
I mainly want this tablet only for two purposes, one is browsing and another is watching movies.
But i just came to know that this tablet has an aspect ration of 4:3 and watching movies in this tablet will cause the movies to end up with two black spaces on either side.
Will this take away the experience of watching a movie? Other than from Browsing(which i'v heard this tablet is very good) my main usage is at watching Youtube videos and Movies.
Can any of you be kind enough to tell me about these and if this tablet is still good enough to purchase?
Regards,
Adi4u4882
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Simply put, NO. Nobody really mentions the overheat, the persistent lag throughout the UI, etc. I purchased this and the Redmi Note 2 together new and both have been a disaster. The Mi 3W was like the best thing in the world until the sim adapter ruined the sim pins. The Mi 4 was great although it overheated as well in Performance Mode, but performance wouldn't really drop because of the heat. The Mi Note was the love of my life until my son caused me to accidentally drop it two weeks after buying it.
Mi Pad? Terrible. It's nothing like MIUI on any other device. Heck, even the nice MIUI port for the Nexus 7 2012 and 2013 give those two LIFE. But this thing has been a disaster. The UI isn't smooth, not even browsing or typing. The heat? I mean I'm typing this all on it on Balanced Mode, brightness a little over half, no other apps running, no vibration, no sound and average room temp and it's already at 37.2° Celsius (98.96° Fahrenheit). Gaming? I think you can cook an egg on the back. It will throttle. Even ran the 3D Mark "Ice storm Unlimited" benchmark while hot a few days ago and it told me that the device was not at its best and should probably have some background apps closed or given time to cool down. Sure, not everyone wants to game on it even though the GPU was designed for that, but again, typing this up is giving it a bit of a struggle to keep its cool.
It is a beautiful device, and no device is perfect, but I really wouldn't recommend it. Thankfully the heat has not caused my battery to drain at the moment it is occurring (I have seen this with other devices I've owned), but heat + battery = problematic battery in a closer than expected future.
I really don't want to shart on your hopes, but when I read about it, it was a must have for me. Sadly, it was not what I expected.
*If its at a good price and SEALED NEW, sure go for it. But otherwise, big no.
IF IT IS A MI PAD 2, RESEARCH ISSUES FIRST.
Thanks for your candid response. Any potential Mi Pad *2* buyers may also want to consider the fact that Intel has recently decided to drop the entire Atom division (Mi Pad 2 is powered by Intel Atom X5-Z8500), so I wouldn't hold my breath for *any* Android updates for existing Atom-based products.
Has mi pad improved its software?
Its June 2016, has mi pad updates able to solve the heating and other issues till now or this is still a no buy?
Alternatively, is the cm-11 build stable enough for mi pad?
Cm11 is quite stable.
I use Cm11 and it'sfine overall. I get the occasional unexpected app closure but it's not an issue.
I use it for browsing, ebooks and youtube mainly.
Hope this helps.

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