[Q] Battery usage / Google services drain - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I have a question regarding my battery usage.
I tried leaving the phone with very little usage and see how long would it last. So far, it's been about 40 hours of mostly idle usage and the battery is at 13%.
Is this what others are getting?
Possibly alarming, about 80% of my battery usage is by Google services. Is it bugged or is it actually using so much battery?
Additionally, I'm using cm10.1 with syriah kernel. I manage my startup programs to avoid most of the bloat and I haven't tried bbs yet, unless this is abnormal.
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Seems normal to me. I'll try to explain why.
First of all your phone has been on for almost two days which is good battery life.
Second of all when your phone is in an idle state the only things or almost only things being used by your phone is google services. Nothing else is being used.
Which means that although google services use the lionshare of your battery, it's completely logical.
Screen uses 0%
Apps use 0%
Bluetooth uses 0%
Try for example to leave your screen on until the battery dies, then you'll see:
screen 90%
and the remaining 10% divided by the rest of the things running on your phone.
So if nothing besides google services is running on your phone, then it's only logical that's what using your battery.
Hope that this sounds logical to you.
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install betterbatterystats and see if it's causing any wakelocks

Nearly two days is extremely good battery life I don't see why your complaining
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He's not complaining, just asking the question as to why Google services had taken up so much battery.
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Partial wake usage?

I'm trying to find out what's keeping my gs2 awake and spare parts doesn't work. Is the some other way to find this info? I thought there was a code but can't seem to find it.
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better battery stats .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Ah thanks
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I have installed Better Battery Stats and I see that EMAIL_SERVICE is causing a lot of partial wakelocks (I have 2 exchange accounts). Furthermore I see that "Android System" is using a lot of CPU (there are two in my battery stats, one that shows services as create video, usb settings, license stuf, self test mode, etc. and one that only shows "total cpu". The last one is using CPU, but I can't figure out what is actually causing this).
When I disable network access (so no wireless sync), the phone lasts 3 or 4 days on battery, but when enabled, the phone burns 10% of the battery per hour, even when it is not used (screen on)...
Anyone else who has this problem, and even better, anyone a fix for this?
I am currently on stock XWKF3/XXKE7/XENKE1 with hardcores Speedmod K1-T27. I also tried Darky's 2.3.4, but this has about the same battery drain...
Well my problem turned out to be the xda app. It was preventing my phone from sleeping.
Reinstalling seems to have fixed it for now.

Idle battery usage with wifi

I would say that this isn't bad at all. Wifi and GPS are switched on with sync/fb/twitter all day and random txt messages. 1 minute screen timeout is the most of my battery usage. I was trying out my new car mount which caused the battery graph to reset. Running unnamed 1.2 1GHz max 200 min undervolted on conservative
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A lot better than me for sure. Yesterday I barely used my phone, but it was dead in about 14 hours. I don't know how you guys do it.
Post your battery usage and apps/widgets
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How do u do tht I cnt keep my battery charged I'm running aosp cmod set CPU everything it just takes forever to charge and it drains quick
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If it takes forever to charge, that means something is constantly using the cpu power and causing it to discharge while you're charging it. I use an extra battery charger and just swap between the two. Please post your wakelocks from betterbatterystats (available somewhere on the forums for free), your battery graph, installed apps, and current widgets you use.
Mine takes around 5 hours to charge, and that's when the phone is completely off. I'll do another test run today with Bluetooth and Kaiten mail turned off. From looking at the wakelocks in Spare Parts (BetterBatteryStats doesn't work for me with MIUI), those looked like the two main offenders.
Here is a graph showing my charging time:
http://www.imgur.com/5fVwe.jpg
Somethings holding a wakelock and causing your phoen to be on all the time.
If Android OS is at 70% or above, you've got something waking up your phone.
If you look around, I've got a thread on known battery drainers here in General. I should ask Jivy26 to add it to the FAQ...
Actually, looking at the graph I think MIUI interpolated between the time my phone died and when I turned it on in the morning, so the 5 hour charging time I mentioned is most likely not correct.
Ok, quick update. I uninstalled some stuff that had a lot of activity in my MIUI battery history. I uninstalled Dolphin Browser HD, Amazon app store, Fancy Widgets, Pulse, Mobile Office, Brilliant Quotes. Also removed the IMDB and Flixster widgets from my home screen.
All of these showed activity in the battery history, but didn't show up as holding wakelocks. I guess whoever the culprit was, it just fell under Android OS.
Anyway, I went to bed with 92% battery and woke up 7 hours later with 91% battery left. This is with Bluetooth and wifi on, running GalnetMIUI 1.11.9 ICS with 200 min/1600 max, ondemand/noop. I guess I can't complain now.
I've also noticed that the ui feels a lot more responsive/less laggy, and the battery drops a lot slower when I'm using the phone.
21cdb said:
All of these showed activity in the battery history, but didn't show up as holding wakelocks. I guess whoever the culprit was, it just fell under Android OS.
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This is common, if you look at my Known Battery Drainers thread you'll see that there are a lot of usage cases where a rogue app can get its usage blamed on Android OS.
Specifically, any app that drives data to your phone will cause the phone to wake every time it receives data. In some cases, this means 800 milliseconds spent resuming/suspending to process 10 bytes of data (which takes the app itself next to no time.)
It sometimes gets worse on wifi because some apps change data usage patterns when on wifi.
A situation like that usually causes a lot of wlan_wake, wlan_rx, or svnet-dormancy wakelocks in /proc/wakelocks (BBS does not show kernel wakelocks properly yet - chamonix added the feature recently but it's not quite working yet.)
My guess is it was fancy widgets/pulse. I use dolphin browser, amazon app store and they do not effect battery life at all.
That is my suspicion as well, and I will try adding apps back one by one to see which one was the culprit.
Right now RILJ Dialer is waking up my phone constantly with hundreds of wakelocks. Many people seem to have this problem, but I haven't seen a solution.
Well, this is looking very good! I never expected this kind of battery life.
Any thoughts on the wakelocks? Not sure if I should worry about them or not.
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Somethings still causing your phone to stay awake. Try removing all widget from your home pages
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[Q] Tracking power hungry app

Hi all,
I am actually finding the jelly bean battery life pretty good now and its screen on time is great. However I believe there is an app of some sort starting up and causing the phone to stop sleeping. I have turned off Google Now and maps reporting location, and also used better battery stats (although still learning) and the stock battery stats and I can't seem to figure out what could be waking the device. I used to get 7 hours without losing a % today after about 3 I list 2%. Just would like to track it down and maximise the battery life of I can.
Thanks in advance,
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I get always too much battery drain during night

i like to keep my gs3 connected to wifi and muted while i'm sleeping but when i wake up i always get 8-10% battery drain (in 8 hours app), i come from a motorola atrix which in the same conditions i get no more than 2% drain over night.
i've tried many roms (omega, foxhound, ultimarom...), many kernels (stock, galaxsih, siyah, phenomenal medium and extreme...), and also some basebands (modem, radio) but i keep sticking with the XXLH1 'cause i get less drain with this one. but in any combination i always get 8-10% battery drain during night.
i've seen some of you say that you get 2-4% drain in the same context so i would like to know what am i doing wrong :/
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im using the leaked stock 4.1.2 there now, and i had 3% drain in 11hrs between overnight and not using it this am.
seems v good for battery life so far. i know your pain though. its non usage time i want to be high batterylife. id expect 2-3 days from the phone when not playing games etc... im hoping this is gonna fix that now. most reports are good about battery so heres hoping.
in a few days will know more
How is it sleeping overnight? check settings > battery and check how much it's awake when the screen is off, then check better battery stats to see what is waking it up, I would probably say you have too much synced.
you're right, i have too much synced, 3 google accounts, plus facebook, twitter, whatsapp, skype and others but those are the same settings i had on my old motorola atrix and even there i got 1-2% drain, although i was on gingerbread.
i will install some battery stats application to see in details whats draining it so much, 'cause under settings it only says that idle and standby time are the draining reasons.
gonna try the leaked 4.1.2 to see if i get better results, thanks!.
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gnrsenpai said:
you're right, i have too much synced, 3 google accounts, plus facebook, twitter, whatsapp, skype and others but those are the same settings i had on my old motorola atrix and even there i got 1-2% drain, although i was on gingerbread.
i will install some battery stats application to see in details whats draining it so much, 'cause under settings it only says that idle and standby time are the draining reasons.
gonna try the leaked 4.1.2 to see if i get better results, thanks!.
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Better battery stats is the best, but that is a lot to sync, I would imagine it's not sleeping well because whenever an app decides to sync it will wake the phone up, and let's not forget the S3 has a 1.4GHz quad core CPU, if it wakes and uses all cores it will drain the battery faster than a single or dual core CPU. I notice the Atrix has a 1GHz dual core, so you should expect a lot more drain especially with that much synced, honestly you shouldn't need Skype syncing unless you always want your skype contacts to be up to date in the contacts app, and Twitter just syncs to pull the latest tweets through, you can just do that manually every time you open the app.
Before 4.1.1 I got 9 hours 99% overnight no 3g or Internet, now it's 90%
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Poker gypsy said:
Before 4.1.1 I got 9 hours 99% overnight no 3g or Internet, now it's 90%
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does that mean that jelly bean is making you experience worse battery life?.
maybe it's because the atrix has 2 cores but if the gs3 uses all 4 cores to fetch or sync some data, that would mean it's not very well optimized for simple tasks, thanks anyway i'll try better battery stats
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gnrsenpai said:
does that mean that jelly bean is making you experience worse battery life?.
maybe it's because the atrix has 2 cores but if the gs3 uses all 4 cores to fetch or sync some data, that would mean it's not very well optimized for simple tasks, thanks anyway i'll try better battery stats
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Android doesn't fully support multi-core CPUs yet, which is the main problem, all you can try if you need all the apps syncing is download a custom kernel and change the CPU governor this will change how the system uses the CPU and it can help.
Well for starters, Google Now should be disabled if you are concerned about battery life. Also check for and disable latitude and location reported from maps (they are getting activated by google now) Even if data/sync/gps are off google now constantly polling for updates thus draining battery.
With my HD2 running GB/Froyo for over 2 years, and methodical testing to achieve the lowest battery drain in standby (testing for 8hrs at night) the best I could do in AP mode was .35% per hour which is less than 3% over 8hrs.
I have owned and tested my S3 for 4 months and usually get 1% per hr and in AP mode....I get similar to the HD2 above at .35% per hour but I haven't tested to crazily.
I find it hard to believe and would love to be convinced, that any S3 owner can get less than 3% per hour drain without going into AP mode. Please prove me wrong and state your methods for all to learn.
Finally, I do not find the battery drain to be Linear. I am guessing that a battery charged to 100% sometimes may actually be a bit stronger than 100%. So doing a random single test may result in low drain numbers but that may be misleading. That same test performed at 20% level, may yield worse results if in fact my theory that the battery does not drain linearly...is true. But for consistency, I always perform the test at 100% battery and let it sit in the charger for an extra 2hrs before unplugging it. This way, at least the test is more consistent and more directly comparable.
I now have Green Power app installed and it is able to automatically turn off wifi/data in standby under conditions set by me, the user. I am performing some nightly drain tests. I would be thrilled if I could get between .35-.75% per hour. My first 2 nightly tests failed thanks to Slacker Radio....which held a Wakelock even though I bloody killed it!
I think this could be due to fast dormacy
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/at-your-own-risk-how-to-disable-fast.html?m=1 there is an app to disable this.
Read this link first though
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A bit off topic but just reminds me of my old Nokia N95 because whenever I was in a network dead spot or just have no signal for whatever reason (Gif fgaff) the battery would completely run dry within maybe 6 hours, and you'd think because it has no signal it should last longer than the few days standby I normally got.
And I've never had a SIM in any of my Android phones that lost service for long so has anyone seen this happen on an Android or is it just a Symbian thing?
Geordie Lad said:
A bit off topic but just reminds me of my old Nokia N95 because whenever I was in a network dead spot or just have no signal for whatever reason (Gif fgaff) the battery would completely run dry within maybe 6 hours, and you'd think because it has no signal it should last longer than the few days standby I normally got.
And I've never had a SIM in any of my Android phones that lost service for long so has anyone seen this happen on an Android or is it just a Symbian thing?
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When a phone has no signal it has to scan all frequencies for a signal, this constant switching of frequencies drains a lot of battery, it also increases the power to the mobile networks chip to try to pick up even a weak signal, which also drains the battery faster, it happens on all phones.
kenyard said:
im using the leaked stock 4.1.2 there now, and i had 3% drain in 11hrs between overnight and not using it this am.
seems v good for battery life so far. i know your pain though. its non usage time i want to be high batterylife. id expect 2-3 days from the phone when not playing games etc... im hoping this is gonna fix that now. most reports are good about battery so heres hoping.
in a few days will know more
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Could you please share your settings to get these results.
Thanks.
chippyuk said:
Could you please share your settings to get these results.
Thanks.
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It's the new 4.1.2 xxelk4 firmware
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It's the new 4.1.2 xxelk4 firmware
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Which I am running but 3% over 11 hours?
Any e-mail accouunts? What do you have enabled/disabled? What is syncing?
The best I have ever managed was about 1%per hour and that was with everything off apart from the cell.
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Which I am running but 3% over 11 hours?
Any e-mail accouunts? What do you have enabled/disabled? What is syncing?
The best I have ever managed was about 1%per hour and that was with everything off apart from the cell.
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Read the link I posted above about fast dormacy and if this is your problem then get the app fast dormacy from play store
If you're worried about wifi while sleeping also have sync turned off and location in settings and disable notifications from play store and disable notifications from apps also
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Samsungnooby said:
Read the link I posted above about fast dormacy and if this is your problem then get the app fast dormacy from play store
If you're worried about wifi while sleeping also have sync turned off and location in settings and disable notifications from play store and disable notifications from apps also
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Will give it a try but I have never seen it show up in BBS in the past hence never tried it (I was aware of it) and as far as I am aware O2 (UK) does support Fast Dormancy.
It is not that I an dubious about the 3% drop over 11 hours I just want to get to the same level!
EDIT: To get the 3% drop do you disable everything you mention above? I use Tasker to disable everything including sync, wifi etc...except the cell. But I do not disable play store notifications seperately.
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Which I am running but 3% over 11 hours?
Any e-mail accouunts? What do you have enabled/disabled? What is syncing?
The best I have ever managed was about 1%per hour and that was with everything off apart from the cell.
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This is what I have come to expect. 1% per hour is reasonable and typical. 3% over 11hrs...hmmm...I don't believe it.
Samsungnooby said:
Read the link I posted above about fast dormacy and if this is your problem then get the app fast dormacy from play store
If you're worried about wifi while sleeping also have sync turned off and location in settings and disable notifications from play store and disable notifications from apps also
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I have messed with this before without positive results. But anyway, since it seems like you have it working...what is your typical % drain over 8hrs?
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This is what I have come to expect. 1% per hour is reasonable and typical. 3% over 11hrs...hmmm...I don't believe it.
I have messed with this before without positive results. But anyway, since it seems like you have it working...what is your typical % drain over 8hrs?
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I usually turn mine off overnight but if I do want it left on I turn my location settings off and everything that requires wifi and don't lose much.
I'd suggest trying better battery stats from play store then after leaving your phone off overnight dump your results (in settings) and then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 to ask about your results
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[Q] Concerned about battery drain and RAM Usage

Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone can help. I have a stock S3 running 4.1.1 and for a while its been running great, but the past few days the battery drain has been quite fast and the RAM usage seems to be high.
In the past my battery would be very good but this morning it had drained 10% in about an hour with me only checking a few web pages via wifi (wifi was constantly on. And I have noticed that my RAM usage for the past 48 hours has been around 600-700mb when previously it was between 400-500mb.
I have used all the usual battery saving tips since I got the phone, sync off, location off, haptic off etc. I have uninstalled apps that were installed in the past few days but doesnt seem to have helped. This morning I have disabled S-Voice but not had any time to see if it has helped and RAM usage seems the same.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Also was wondering if apps like GSam batt monitor and advanced task killer/manager are worth using or whether they will just add to the battery and RAM drain.
Many Thanks in advance
Don't use google now. Sorted out my battery life
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Google Now is already disabled. Just wondering if it's worth restoring to factory to see if that helps?
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Then id say try use betterbatterystats to see what's keeping your phone awake.
Might be some rogue app going crazy
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