While i knew the official sony update slows the phone down i tried it anyway and i really regret doing that. The phone was really slow. So after quite some time spent rooting and flashing it with a custom kernel I overclocked it. The problem now is that SetCPU ignores what I set to minimum. Im using the smartAssv2 governor (it is the same with all the other governors) and when I'm not using any apps It quite oftenly sets the cpu to 200mhz slowing the phone to a crawl. So is there a way to fix this and make it so that it doesn't clock it at 200mhz at random ?
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Hi everyone,
Like most people I've been trying to find that optimum balance between performance and battery life in my Aria. I'm running CM7.0.3 and the latest version of drowningchild's kernel. With that kernel I switched setCPU from ondemand to smartass, and I can already see the CPU spending most of it's time in either 400 or 480 MHz, but when playing a graphic intensive game it'll go up to 806 MHz and run great.
But, here's the problem. With things like less graphic intensive games, or playing videos, smartass doesn't want to scale up to a useful clock speed, and things get choppy. I switch back to ondemand and everything smoothes out again. I don't want to keep it in ondemand all the time though, because then it's spending half the time in 806 MHz and eating up battery unnecessarily.
So, is there a better governor option for me? Or maybe a way to "whitelist" apps within setCPU, to designate apps that always get the max clock speed?
tl;dr: smartass isn't that smart in certain situations. Is there a better way?
Check out the app "Tasker" in the market. It will allow you to reconfig the governors automatically based on a slew of complex conditions.
If you want smartass roll back to 7-5 of my kernel and it should be fixed as I tweaked it to jump around less in newer versions
I'm still messing around with the new kernel released & will add smartass very soon & hopefully optimized
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If you want smartass roll back to 7-5 of my kernel and it should be fixed as I tweaked it to jump around less in newer versions
I'm still messing around with the new kernel released & will add smartass very soon & hopefully optimized
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Hey yea you're right, I didn't notice you had a new kernel out. I'm running 7-5 still but I'll upgrade once smartass is working in the new version.
I've been using "conservative" setting. Although when it initial opens a resource intensive app, its stutters a little, and then compensates by clocking up. I haven't had an issue where a game didnt want to run smooth (also at 806mhz).
I run on demand at 320/768. This to me seems to be a very good combo. The 320 min makes a noticeable difference in responsiveness without much sacrifice to battery. I've found the Max cpu setting doesn't make too much of a difference in most situations.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
I installed Icecream Sunday Final (very nice rom btw), but the phone lags often. For example, when I unlock it, it can be frustratingly long to be able to launch any applications right away. There is always at least 100mb of ram free, so I am not sure what causes this.
Does anyone have any advice? Has this happened to any other ICS users?
Are you using an OC Kernel?
If so, I read around here on the forums that you should increase your minimum CPU speed a bit and that should clear up the lag when unlocking the phone. Haven't tried it myself since I am running theMyth - ICS Lite, but am going to go back to Cyanogenmod (once of the things that peeved me on Cyanogen was exactly this; lag after unlock).
Hope this helps
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I installed Icecream Sunday Final (very nice rom btw), but the phone lags often. For example, when I unlock it, it can be frustratingly long to be able to launch any applications right away. There is always at least 100mb of ram free, so I am not sure what causes this.
Does anyone have any advice? Has this happened to any other ICS users?
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hi you have to flash a kernel (you ll find all the information needed in the ic sunday topic)
i did do that and its far better
Either you set your min. frequenzy to 245Mhz or just use smartass gov. @ 122Mhz. I prefer smartass @ 122Mhz and there no lag.
PS: I´m using the same rom but with SlaidFastMod V2
I'm having wake-up lag too! But I already gave up thinking that the SGA's CPU just sucks. Thanks for this info GerasVille, I did not think to tinker with the System settings of CyanoGen because of the "Dragons Ahead" prompt. I will try this smartass setting to see if the wake-up lag will be removed. It sucks when I have to send an emergency SMS and my phone is lagging like hell.
Anyway so let me get this straight. Does having the minimum CPU clocked at 122mhz mean that if the device is inactive, it dynamically clocks down the CPU to 122mhz to save battery? Hence the wake-up lag is caused by the CPU being clocked back up?
I'm also gonna try out slaidfastmod to see if it makes it even better.
You can put up with the lag and save a tiny bit of battery life, or speed up the CPU and lose some battery life. Whichever you feel is more useful. Personally I don't mind the small unlock delay. Happens on most phones low powered anyway.
Sent from a phone with an app.
Eniac77 said:
Are you using an OC Kernel?
If so, I read around here on the forums that you should increase your minimum CPU speed a bit and that should clear up the lag when unlocking the phone. Haven't tried it myself since I am running theMyth - ICS Lite, but am going to go back to Cyanogenmod (once of the things that peeved me on Cyanogen was exactly this; lag after unlock).
Hope this helps
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The kernel that is currently installed is "2.6.35.7-perf-CL562111" Ketut-lenovo #4. I am not sure if it is an OC kernel.
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Either you set your min. frequenzy to 245Mhz or just use smartass gov. @ 122Mhz. I prefer smartass @ 122Mhz and there no lag.
PS: I´m using the same rom but with SlaidFastMod V2
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I installed SlaidFastMod v2, set governor to Smartass and min CPU frequency to 245 MHz and this fixed the issue! It's much smoother when unlocking.
Is it safe to tick the "Set on boot" setting for CPU settings?
I have been trying for a while to efficiently maximize my battery life with gingerbread roms.
While getting some nice results with roms like the latest cm7 or neutrino i still can't for the life of me figure out why it wont let me underclock my cpu with any program whatsoever (cpu master, setcpu. Cpu tuner. etc etc....)
It seems that while im inside the apps they wont let it go over the set frequency but any time they are running in the background the cpu still spends like 30% of its time at max frequency, even if i limit it to something less, and its driving me crazy.
Even when running the powersave governor which is supposed to keep frequencies low this still doesnt work no matter what rom or kernel or whatever im doing.
Any ideas?
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Hello there, I'm here to ask how some people overclock their xperia x10 so high example to 1190 mhz, my one is instantly booting when i switch to that frequency, how do they do it ? Im on jb rom by scritch 007 and jb ferakernel . Any advices ?
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Hello there, I'm here to ask how some people overclock their xperia x10 so high example to 1190 mhz, my one is instantly booting when i switch to that frequency, how do they do it ? Im on jb rom by scritch 007 and jb ferakernel . Any advices ?
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To start with, no two XPERIA X10i are the same when it comes to the silicon in them.
The odd one or two may be able to sustain 1128MHz for benchmarking, but highly unlikely to be able to sustain that frequency for an extended time with a 'standard' load of user installed apps.
The XPERIA X10i is spec'd to be run stable and conservatively at 998MHz and there was no consideration for any frequency changes above that when designed.
However that does not stop most of us attempting to find the limits.
I tend to favour 1113MHz for my max daily frequency using SmartAssv2 governor, others may select something different.
I use SetCPU to change CPU frequencies, others prefer AnTuTu cpu master or some other overclocking application.
I use Link2SD on a secondary partition with a 32GB SanDisk UHS-I SDcard which gets away from the slow read/write of internal data storage.
build.prop 'tweaking' for optimisation goes a long way too.
The smart money is not overclocking, but on how low you can maintain the CPU (and thus battery life) when the screen is off and still be able to come out of deep sleep without 'hanging' the phone.
I have a screen-off CPU profile clocked at 576MHz-192MHz using SmartAssv2 to do that (work in progress).
Limiting applications that wake your phone when the screen is off it also a bonus.
CPU Governors and I/O scheduler information is a good start to understand what the CPU is attempting to do with different settings.
I have installed and run scritch007 CM10 JB ROM v5.0 (think it was at the time) with Amin Kernel and I seem to remember 1190Mhz was the raged edge of stability with AnTuTu v3 on my phone, so it doesn't surprise me a phone may not be able to clock at that speed using a CM10 JB ROM. See my AnTuTu v3 benchmark below used SmartAssV2 and noop I/O scheduler.
One should consider with the JB ROMs, the phone is doing a lot more (albeit a lot smarter) with the same amount of HW resources and even if you set the clock at 1190MHz and benchmark it, even before installing your own apps, there is still a lot of processes all completing for resources.
To get a better idea of the abilities of your phone, you may want to installed generic GB 2.3.3 and root it with an Overclocked Kernel to see if high clock rates of 1190MHz+ can be maintained without crashing the phone (WLOD - White light of death).
I can set 1128MHz on my phone without crashing it, but it always crashes on AnTuTu benchmark test at that frequency which is only about bragging rights at the end of the day anyway. I can't do anything constructive at these clock rates.
Installing JB ROMs and Kernels under rapid development with their own quirks on an X10i is probably not the most ideal why to gauge the stability of your phone when overclocked.
At the end of the day, it's more likely just luck of the draw if an XPERIA X10i can maintain 1190MHz+ clock frequencies and I'd say that 1190MHz+ is the exception and not the rule.
Dr Goodvibes said:
To start with, no two XPERIA X10i are the same when it comes to the silicon in them.
The odd one or two may be able to sustain 1128MHz for benchmarking, but highly unlikely to be able to sustain that frequency for an extended time with a 'standard' load of user installed apps.
The XPERIA X10i is spec'd to be run stable and conservatively at 998MHz and there was no consideration for any frequency changes above that when designed.
However that does not stop most of us attempting to find the limits.
I tend to favour 1113MHz for my max daily frequency using SmartAssv2 governor, others may select something different.
I use SetCPU to change CPU frequencies, others prefer AnTuTu cpu master or some other overclocking application.
I use Link2SD on a secondary partition with a 32GB SanDisk UHS-I SDcard which gets away from the slow read/write of internal data storage.
build.prop 'tweaking' for optimisation goes a long way too.
The smart money is not overclocking, but on how low you can maintain the CPU (and thus battery life) when the screen is off and still be able to come out of deep sleep without 'hanging' the phone.
I have a screen-off CPU profile clocked at 576MHz-192MHz using SmartAssv2 to do that (work in progress).
Limiting applications that wake your phone when the screen is off it also a bonus.
CPU Governors and I/O scheduler information is a good start to understand what the CPU is attempting to do with different settings.
I have installed and run scritch007 CM10 JB ROM v5.0 (think it was at the time) with Amin Kernel and I seem to remember 1190Mhz was the raged edge of stability with AnTuTu v3 on my phone, so it doesn't surprise me a phone may not be able to clock at that speed using a CM10 JB ROM. See my AnTuTu v3 benchmark below used SmartAssV2 and noop I/O scheduler.
One should consider with the JB ROMs, the phone is doing a lot more (albeit a lot smarter) with the same amount of HW resources and even if you set the clock at 1190MHz and benchmark it, even before installing your own apps, there is still a lot of processes all completing for resources.
To get a better idea of the abilities of your phone, you may want to installed generic GB 2.3.3 and root it with an Overclocked Kernel to see if high clock rates of 1190MHz+ can be maintained without crashing the phone (WLOD - White light of death).
I can set 1128MHz on my phone without crashing it, but it always crashes on AnTuTu benchmark test at that frequency which is only about bragging rights at the end of the day anyway. I can't do anything constructive at these clock rates.
Installing JB ROMs and Kernels under rapid development with their own quirks on an X10i is probably not the most ideal why to gauge the stability of your phone when overclocked.
At the end of the day, it's more likely just luck of the draw if an XPERIA X10i can maintain 1190MHz+ clock frequencies and I'd say that 1190MHz+ is the exception and not the rule.
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Thanks for your answer.
Hi there to all!!! I've been flashing various Android Roms for a few yrs now & really enjoy trying out new custom roms etc... Now i have a weird problem, Most customs Roms I have tried for my S3 i9300 are great & most 4.3 Roms come with a Custom Kernel such as Beoffla, GoogyMax, devil kernel & so on.... Now the problem is when leaving the CPU at defualt governer & settings everything is fine eg: min 200 & max 1400 but games lag now & again, When setting the CPU min & Max settings to 1400MHz, the results are much better but not for long, The CPU always drops to 800MHz when gaming as i notice the lagg, I've noticed this same thing with just about every kernel & rom ive tried wether its set to 1400 or even overclocked to 1500 or 1600max, I've also tried every trick to make them settings stick , like trickster mod etc, none seem to work for long, its like another system service is interfering with the settings or so.....im pulling my hair out to figure out what this is, I just want the CPU min & max to stay firmly at 1400Mhz or 1500 etc....without changing at all!!!
Any help or suggestions would be really appreciated.... FlashJunkie83
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CPU/GPU can under-perform if they get too hot from playing resource-intensive games or apps. Maybe this is the issue.
~ RazorMC
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CPU/GPU can under-perform if they get too hot from playing resource-intensive games or apps. Maybe this is the issue.
hey yea would make sense but when running rooted stock 4.1.2 with stock kernel, this doesnt happen at all, i can set performance governer in set cpu & it stays at 1400 Mhz throughout, also i would of thought a Cpu thats ment to run at 1400 would be fine to do so all the time as its ment to be able to... even with a little heat behind it... its still only doing what its ment to lol, i remember in the days of my s2, i could push the cpu to 1200mhz & it would happily stay there even tho it got hot lol, im really sure its a system thing that upsets the cpu frequency, other than that there must be a way to stop the cpu/gpu from under-performing with a little heat..... thanks for reply tho dude....
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@FlashJunkie83
- High temp will always cause freq throttling since this is how devices are designed. This over-rides whatever the max freq the cpu was designed to run on.
- try undervolting from the boefla config app (if you use the boefla kernel). I use -25mV with almost no difference to performance. Some users have gone on to -50mV but that gave me random freezes and massive lags sometimes.
- Test different governors. I mostly use the default pegasusq and it works well enough. Constantly high freq can affect the CPU in the long-term. So I use max freq of 800mhz and increase it to 1400mhz only when I play games.
- I'm not a fan of SetCPU. It's a great app but i find specific apps (like boeffla config) for kernels to be more precise.
- You can also try a different battery and borrow one from a friend to test it out. I had slight heating issues long ago and changing the battery reduced the heat for me somehow. It was not much, but it was enough for me to notice.
~ RazorMC
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@FlashJunkie83
- High temp will always cause freq throttling since this is how devices are designed. This over-rides whatever the max freq the cpu was designed to run on.
- try undervolting from the boefla config app (if you use the boefla kernel). I use -25mV with almost no difference to performance. Some users have gone on to -50mV but that gave me random freezes and massive lags sometimes.
- Test different governors. I mostly use the default pegasusq and it works well enough. Constantly high freq can affect the CPU in the long-term. So I use max freq of 800mhz and increase it to 1400mhz only when I play games.
- I'm not a fan of SetCPU. It's a great app but i find specific apps (like boeffla config) for kernels to be more precise.
- You can also try a different battery and borrow one from a friend to test it out. I had slight heating issues long ago and changing the battery reduced the heat for me somehow. It was not much, but it was enough for me to notice.
~ RazorMC
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thanks mate will give it a go
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finally fiqured it out, it seems that cynogenmod has a diffrent approach to thermal throttling as ive flashed CM10.2.0 Android 4.3.1 along with Boeffla 2.1 for CM & the issue seems to have gone completely, have been running a performance test on games for best part of the day at 1600MHz with 4 enabled cores & just going back to normal settings for normal daily use, & not 1 issue with throttling, so now im very happy with the smoothness in games although its gets warm, but most high performance CPU's do anyways,So ive come to the conclusion that thermal throttling must be handled more by sammy roms it seems, but got the result i wanted in the end, thanks for all replies tho guys
Sent from my blazing S3 i9300 now running CM10.2.0