Have experience of an unlocked and rooted Desire HD and other phones such as G300, but this is a different ball game for me. Mostly the phone is obviously so new and an expense!
Regarding the unlocking of the bootloader and flashing a recovery. I have a Vodafone UK phone by the way.
The bootloader is unlocked through HTCdev, this wipes the data, content and everything. Does this mean the actual stock rom is wiped and the phone is essentially waiting for a new rom to be flashed?
What gives with the recoveries. Some say CWM, some say TWRP, which is the best recovery from flashing roms particularly for a Vodafone (International)?
The rom flashing is different here too. Am I limited to what roms I can flash as I on a Vodafone branded phone? How would i know what rom I can used. Would the dev state the rom is compatable for a Vodafone HOX+?
Thank you.
When bootloader unlocked, stock rom stays intact, flash CWM recovery, international roms flash on any international device...
Pretty much unless you have the AT&T or Telus version, all the international roms will work with your device. I don't believe the rom developers will specifically say Vodafone compatible.
So using the all in one tool to root does NOT wipe your stock rom data? I thought it does...
ashamir said:
So using the all in one tool to root does NOT wipe your stock rom data? I thought it does...
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Unlocking your device will wipe all of your data/apps/etc. The phone's state should return to the way it was when you first bought it, however this means that the stock rom will still be on the phone, it will just have been reverted back to its default state.
Alright cool. I might as well flash a custom ROM at that point. I am coming from a Galaxy S so flashing was very easy with ODIN/CWM. All this bootloader stuff has me a bit lost.
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Hi!
I'm just wondering if it's safe to flash the old GB bootloader, the one that allows to use the USB JIG to reset flash counter, and stays with this old bootloader, while using JB ROMs (mainly AOKP or CM).
Is someone using this old GB bootloader with newer JB ROMs??
Thanks in advance.
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Hi!
I'm just wondering if it's safe to flash the old GB bootloader, the one that allows to use the USB JIG to reset flash counter, and stays with this old bootloader, while using JB ROMs (mainly AOKP or CM).
Is someone using this old GB bootloader with newer JB ROMs??
Thanks in advance.
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yeah go ahead boot loader doesnt affect the android version on our devices
i am still using the bootloader my phone shipped with
bluefa1con said:
yeah go ahead boot loader doesnt affect the android version on our devices
i am still using the bootloader my phone shipped with
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Thank you!
By the way... is there any way to know wich bootloader version are you using after flashing a new ROM?, I know most custom ROMs (AOKP, CM, ...) don't contains any bootloader, but not sure about others or about Samsung leaks.
So... is there any way to check if flashing a ROM changes the bootloader?
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Thank you!
By the way... is there any way to know wich bootloader version are you using after flashing a new ROM?, I know most custom ROMs (AOKP, CM, ...) don't contains any bootloader, but not sure about others or about Samsung leaks.
So... is there any way to check if flashing a ROM changes the bootloader?
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Sir all stock rom did't touch your bootl oader, coz they are zip file and flashing through recovery, and boot loader flashing only with odin . After flashing boot loader will erase your phone. And to flash this do some search first.
bluefa1con said:
yeah go ahead boot loader doesnt affect the android version on our devices
i am still using the bootloader my phone shipped with
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how do flash a bootloader ? Also How can I backup my current bootloader ?
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how do flash a bootloader ? Also How can I backup my current bootloader ?
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Flashing with Odin in .pda section, if I'm not mistaken. I dunno if you can back up your boot loader. But is good to have ICS and GB boot loader in 2 different tar files, just in case you want to switch back.
You can't back up a bootloader on SGS2. And frankly, given the reason you're wanting to flash it (so you can use a jig) & given there's an alternative (Triangle Away), I'd advise you not to flash it.
You don't need to. You only mess with bootloaders when you have a specific reason to do it; I.E the rom you want to use won't boot without a 'recent' bootloader.
Given the risks of rendering your phone unbootable & only fixable by JTAG if it barfs & given there's an alternative, wanting to use a jig doesn't strike me as being particularly sensible.
Hello,
I wanted to have newer android and have rooted and flashed HTC Amaze with Hasoons toolkit using TWRP recovery system. After flashing Cyanogenmod 10 ROM through ADB Sideload and flashing Cyanogenmod 10 ROM kernel (boot.img file which was included in the zipped folder) manually with Hasoons toolkit, the phone started to boot normally, load welcome screen, but after several seconds it freezes and then restarts. Can you please help what can be the cause of this problem and how can I repair? The phone is rooted and bootloader unlocked, but its still S-ON.
Before installing the Cyanogenmod I have tried to flash other ROMs, but on all of them after flashing kernel, the phone was freezing on booting mode and then just restarting continuously.
I hope there should be some way out and the phone is not bricked. If something I have backed up the data and will try to restore, but would prefer to repair Cyanogenmod ROM.
Thank you guys in advance for your help.
ratijs100 said:
Hello,
I wanted to have newer android and have rooted and flashed HTC Amaze with Hasoons toolkit using TWRP recovery system. After flashing Cyanogenmod 10 ROM through ADB Sideload and flashing Cyanogenmod 10 ROM kernel (boot.img file which was included in the zipped folder) manually with Hasoons toolkit, the phone started to boot normally, load welcome screen, but after several seconds it freezes and then restarts. Can you please help what can be the cause of this problem and how can I repair? The phone is rooted and bootloader unlocked, but its still S-ON.
Before installing the Cyanogenmod I have tried to flash other ROMs, but on all of them after flashing kernel, the phone was freezing on booting mode and then just restarting continuously.
I hope there should be some way out and the phone is not bricked. If something I have backed up the data and will try to restore, but would prefer to repair Cyanogenmod ROM.
Thank you guys in advance for your help.
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Did you follow the directions posted in the pinned threads at the top of the forums and update to ICS before unlocking and flashing these other ROMs?
I ask because if you say you're unlocked, but s-on, and you need to be on an ICS radio baseband prior to flashing any newer ROM. If you were already on ICS prior to these flash attempts then I suggest you try again with the latest version of 4ext instead of TWRP, and make sure to enable smart-flash. TWRP doesn't flash kernels properly on HTC handsets with s-on, while 4ext does when smart-flash is enabled. Of course all of this comes with the stipulation that you're doing this on a T-Mobile US version handset.
If you're on an Asian or non-branded international version it gets a bit more complicated because you must attain s-off before attempting to flash. This is because these handsets never got an ICS update. So there is no carrier image to flash to, and the only way to install the updated firmware with the ICS baseband is to attain s-off first then flash the T-Mobile US image.
Again, if you haven't I strongly suggest reading the pinned threads at the top of the different forums here as they contain all of the info you need to successfully flash your device to an updated ROM. Good luck.
Ciao
Odysseus1962 said:
Did you follow the directions posted in the pinned threads at the top of the forums and update to ICS before unlocking and flashing these other ROMs?
I ask because if you say you're unlocked, but s-on, and you need to be on an ICS radio baseband prior to flashing any newer ROM. If you were already on ICS prior to these flash attempts then I suggest you try again with the latest version of 4ext instead of TWRP, and make sure to enable smart-flash. TWRP doesn't flash kernels properly on HTC handsets with s-on, while 4ext does when smart-flash is enabled. Of course all of this comes with the stipulation that you're doing this on a T-Mobile US version handset.
If you're on an Asian or non-branded international version it gets a bit more complicated because you must attain s-off before attempting to flash. This is because these handsets never got an ICS update. So there is no carrier image to flash to, and the only way to install the updated firmware with the ICS baseband is to attain s-off first then flash the T-Mobile US image.
Again, if you haven't I strongly suggest reading the pinned threads at the top of the different forums here as they contain all of the info you need to successfully flash your device to an updated ROM. Good luck.
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Thank you for information. It is non-branded international version. It means I will have to try S-off and then flash the ROM with 4ext.
ratijs100 said:
Thank you for information. It is non-branded international version. It means I will have to try S-off and then flash the ROM with 4ext.
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Please read the pinned threads first. You're going to have to relock your bootloader before proceeding, so save the binary unlock blob you got from HTC as you'll need it to unlock again. Place the stock image in the root of your external SD card and flash from hboot. Then after getting s-off and superCID then you can flash the T-Mobile ICS image. Again read the pinned threads thoroughly or you'll be posting about how to unbrick your handset. Good luck.
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I had the same issues and had to turn off security with the joupunut bear program. Just to be safe with future flashing I've understood it works best. You should first s-off your phone and then go about flashing whichever firmware you want. Make sure you upgrade to the stock ics rom first as a pre requisite towards flashing any other rom and you'll be fine. Do a search on the stuff needed to gain s-off here in the forums. Report back if you need more assistance
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I just bought a new at&t HTC One (M8) and I'd like to have a fresh stock backup in case of return/warranty problems. I'd like to make this myself so I can ensure that I'll be able to put the exact software that came with my phone back if need be. Also I'd just like to know how to do this in general. What I've found via search has been for rooted phones or different brands. Is it possible to use ADB or any other tool to do this? I guess I'm confused because I see posts for flashing back to stock. How do devs get these stock roms? If someone could point me to a good guide/tutorial it would be much appreciated.
Not without a rooted device or an unsecure [email protected] backup...there is an ruu posted for the 1.58.502.1, thats as close to being a backup without altering the phone in anyway
As long as you are a current account holder, AT&T does not give a crap what software is on your phone, bootloader unlocked, even a custom ROM installed in regards to warranty service based on many reports on XDA.
If you are still wondering about returning to stock, as mentioned in the above, your version (AT&T) if fortunate enough to have a 1.58 RUU. The ROM Update Utility is a useful means of installing a full stock image (ROM, radio, recovery, etc.) via connection to a PC.
But it can still be determined the bootloader is unlocked, no matter what you do to the phone to return it to stock. Your IMEI is tracked by HTCDev.com when you unlock the bootloader. But again, as long as you go through AT&T for warranty service (highly recommended for this reason) they don't care if the phone is modded.
I believe the stock ROMs you mention are system dumps done after bootloader unlock.
i have the HTC Desire 610 bought in the UK
ive been trying to root it but i dont know how to. is there any one click root?
is there any video showing how to unlock the bootloader so thet it will show S-OFF
any help will be appreciated.
officialtf_ said:
i have the HTC Desire 610 bought in the UK
ive been trying to root it but i dont know how to. is there any one click root?
is there any video showing how to unlock the bootloader so thet it will show S-OFF
any help will be appreciated.
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hi,
all that things you have on this link. yust follow the instructions.
michelkovacic said:
hi,
all that things you have on this link. yust follow the instructions.
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Its still confusing. Do you know any video that cab help me?
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officialtf_ said:
Its still confusing. Do you know any video that cab help me?
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unfortunately no. but al those things are very simple. just follow steps one by one and you haven' t any problems. most important is that you have proper drivers installed.
michelkovacic said:
unfortunately no. but al those things are very simple. just follow steps one by one and you haven' t any problems. most important is that you have proper drivers installed.
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Thankd
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I seriously need help. Can you make a video about unlocking boot loader and flashing the super SU
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officialtf_ said:
I seriously need help. Can you make a video about unlocking boot loader and flashing the super SU
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cant post url because im still a greenhorn......google the following terms
androidteen
root
desire 610
look for the post on aug 23, 2014
props to john Clarkson for a simple guide with great links
HTC Desire 610 Root
officialtf_ said:
i have the HTC Desire 610 bought in the UK
ive been trying to root it but i dont know how to. is there any one click root?
is there any video showing how to unlock the bootloader so thet it will show S-OFF
any help will be appreciated.
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i rooted my phone with this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=1314#downloads
it helps a lot and my phone was rooted in less than 10 minutes
To point you in the right direction...
First thing with a HTC is to understand S-ON / S-OFF vs Unlocked / Locked Boot-loader vs Root.
S-ON / S-OFF is Security, and unique to HTC phones.
With the phone S-ON you can still flash a new kernel (boot.img) and flash new ROM's such as Cyanogenmod (and many more!).
With the phone S-OFF you can flash things like the radio, change the CID (Carrier ID) and more, but being unable to S-OFF is not the end of the world.
Bootloader Locked / Unlocked.
With a locked bootloader, you can still gain root, however depends heavily on the exploit and version of android. A locked bootloader is the main restriction on any device.
With an unlocked bootloader, you can now flash custom recoveries (or just boot into them). Flash custom ROM's, and Flash custom Kernels.
HTCdev.com will allow you to unlock your bootloader by following the instructions on there.
Root = Root, i.e. performing commands or having apps perform functions as the systems Superuser (Administrator) account on your device.
You can have your device S-ON, unlock your device, flash a custom ROM, and not be rooted. It's just most custom ROM's ship with root enabled.
Hopefully the above explains (very basically) the differences between a few terms.
And you most certainly do not need to flash a custom recovery in order to install a custom ROM.
Rob
in all honesty
Unless you really really need it to be unlocked I would honestly advise against unlocking and rooting for this device... when i got mine I loved how smooth the original rom was, but being a long time samsung user I was used to flashing anything with minimal impact. But right now this device has 0 development happening and most people who have unlocked and rooted the EU version of this phone have ended up regretting it as there is no way to restore the original eu firmware...
If you do decided to do it please please please make a full backup of the eu rom before hand... and if you do god i think so many members would love you for posting it on here
but in my own opinion I wouldn't go through with the process again...
@torchwolfery we're sharing exactly the same opinion
torchwolfery said:
Unless you really really need it to be unlocked I would honestly advise against unlocking and rooting for this device... when i got mine I loved how smooth the original rom was, but being a long time samsung user I was used to flashing anything with minimal impact. But right now this device has 0 development happening and most people who have unlocked and rooted the EU version of this phone have ended up regretting it as there is no way to restore the original eu firmware...
If you do decided to do it please please please make a full backup of the eu rom before hand... and if you do god i think so many members would love you for posting it on here
but in my own opinion I wouldn't go through with the process again...
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p3tey.cRo said:
@torchwolfery we're sharing exactly the same opinion
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Hi Guys,
As I mentioned in my brief explanation of the different terms of rooting / unlocking etc.
You can unlock, and root, while still keeping the stock recovery, and stock ROM.
This means you can root the original ROM to use root apps, and have root, but then simply factory reset to go back to full stock (albeit with an unlocked bootloader).
When you unlock your boot-loader the device will do a factory reset, take a backup at this point, by booting into TWRP (but you don't need to flash TWRP permanently onto the phone.
Instead of >fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Simply type >fastboot boot recovery.img
Your device will load TWRP, allow you to do a full backup, install superuser / supersu.
Once you exit the recovery, your phone still contains the stock recovery.img, stock boot.img, and stock system.
Hope that helps some others before they flash recovery.img (no need!) and then flash an AT&T ROM on the international version.
readmanr said:
Hi Guys,
As I mentioned in my brief explanation of the different terms of rooting / unlocking etc.
You can unlock, and root, while still keeping the stock recovery, and stock ROM.
This means you can root the original ROM to use root apps, and have root, but then simply factory reset to go back to full stock (albeit with an unlocked bootloader).
When you unlock your boot-loader the device will do a factory reset, take a backup at this point, by booting into TWRP (but you don't need to flash TWRP permanently onto the phone.
Instead of >fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Simply type >fastboot boot recovery.img
Your device will load TWRP, allow you to do a full backup, install superuser / supersu.
Once you exit the recovery, your phone still contains the stock recovery.img, stock boot.img, and stock system.
Hope that helps some others before they flash recovery.img (no need!) and then flash an AT&T ROM on the international version.
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thanks we know this now and we are not trying to somehow blame you but the fact is that unlocking the bootloader and rooting has caused some issues for us on the international versions... your tutorial works great and gave us what we wanted but sadly there have been downsides on the international version... but now I've manged to get mine fully functioning now
Please bear with me since I'm not too experienced on this and did research on XDA to the best I could before asking. I'm planning on returning my device to stock, but I'm worried I might brick it. I'm currently running the Skydragon 9.0 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/rom-sd-4-0-sense7-port-sdkernel-t3062367) and toggled on quite a lot of things. Mainly, I remember allowing it to overwrite my current kernel.
My device has S-ON from what I saw on HBOOT, is using the Skydragon custom kernel, and I'm using TWRP custom recovery. I still have the RUU I downloaded from AT&T to return my device to stock 5.0.2 firmware. My question is, shall I just run the RUU and it will all be back to stock? Should I flash the stock recovery first? Should I relock the bootloader first? and if any of those are true, in what order?
The guide which seemed the most similar to me was this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751011 but that required S-OFF which I don't have and don't think it's a good thing to have. Could anyone point me in the right direciton? thanks!
First of all, what is your intent in returning to stock: to sell or give away the phone? Or return for warranty service?
sarxion said:
Please bear with me since I'm not too experienced on this and did research on XDA to the best I could before asking. I'm planning on returning my device to stock, but I'm worried I might brick it.
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You won't brick the phone with s-on. You just won't.
You might screw something up, and temporarily render the phone unable to boot. But that can easily be fixed with the right knowledge; and that is not a brick.
sarxion said:
I'm currently running the Skydragon 9.0 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/rom-sd-4-0-sense7-port-sdkernel-t3062367) and toggled on quite a lot of things. Mainly, I remember allowing it to overwrite my current kernel.
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On this device, flashing a custom ROM always overwrites the kernel. What you selected when you flashed the ROM, is to flash the custom SD kernel instead of flashing the "stock" HTC kernel that came with the ROM base (that Skydragon 9 is based on).
None of that matters, once you return to stock, the custom ROM (including kernel) and any other settings, tweaks, etc. will be returned to their "stock" condition.
sarxion said:
My question is, shall I just run the RUU and it will all be back to stock?
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Will "all" be back to stock? No. The bootloader will still say RELOCKED instead of the original LOCKED condition. You need s-off to make it say LOCKED.
Also bear in mind that HTC has a record of you unlocking the bootloader, if you did it via HTCDev.com (which is most likely the case). Nothing will change that fact, and it should be disclosed to potential buyers if selling/trading the phone (that it was bootloader unlocked and modded, then returned to near-stock condition).
But everything else will be back to stock after RUU: Stock ROM, stock kernel, stock recovery, and the user data will be wiped.
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Should I flash the stock recovery first? Should I relock the bootloader first? and if any of those are true, in what order?
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No need to flash stock recovery.
You will need to relock the bootloader to RUU.
Backup (move) anything you want to keep (personal photos, etc.) to your computer, etc. before RUU, as RUU will wipe the phone.
sarxion said:
The guide which seemed the most similar to me was this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751011 but that required S-OFF which I don't have and don't think it's a good thing to have.
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As I've mentioned, s-off is only needed if you want to return the phone to LOCKED (instead of RELOCKED). I will agree its probably not necessary to spend $25 for s-off just to do that.
Further, the guide is very old (May 2014 - right after the phone was released) and probably before any RUU was available. It follows a much more complicated path to "return to stock" and needlessly so.
Just relock the bootloader and run the RUU, is my recommendation.
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First of all, what is your intent in returning to stock: to sell or give away the phone? Or return for warranty service?
You won't brick the phone with s-on. You just won't.
You might screw something up, and temporarily render the phone unable to boot. But that can easily be fixed with the right knowledge; and that is not a brick.
On this device, flashing a custom ROM always overwrites the kernel. What you selected when you flashed the ROM, is to flash the custom SD kernel instead of flashing the "stock" HTC kernel that came with the ROM base (that Skydragon 9 is based on).
None of that matters, once you return to stock, the custom ROM (including kernel) and any other settings, tweaks, etc. will be returned to their "stock" condition.
Will "all" be back to stock? No. The bootloader will still say RELOCKED instead of the original LOCKED condition. You need s-off to make it say LOCKED.
Also bear in mind that HTC has a record of you unlocking the bootloader, if you did it via HTCDev.com (which is most likely the case). Nothing will change that fact, and it should be disclosed to potential buyers if selling/trading the phone (that it was bootloader unlocked and modded, then returned to near-stock condition).
But everything else will be back to stock after RUU: Stock ROM, stock kernel, stock recovery, and the user data will be wiped.
No need to flash stock recovery.
You will need to relock the bootloader to RUU.
Backup (move) anything you want to keep (personal photos, etc.) to your computer, etc. before RUU, as RUU will wipe the phone.
As I've mentioned, s-off is only needed if you want to return the phone to LOCKED (instead of RELOCKED). I will agree its probably not necessary to spend $25 for s-off just to do that.
Further, the guide is very old (May 2014 - right after the phone was released) and probably before any RUU was available. It follows a much more complicated path to "return to stock" and needlessly so.
Just relock the bootloader and run the RUU, is my recommendation.
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Thank you very much for your quick answer. I'm returning it to stock firmware to sell the device. Is it safe to lock the bootloader while Skydragon is on my device? and after that, just run the AT&T RUU and I'm done, right?
Also, do you by any chance have any resource on how to relock the bootloader? I've searched for guides on this but I the guides I find don't look very trustworthy, or don't apply, such as this one that requires S-OFF http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
sarxion said:
Thank you very much for your quick answer. I'm returning it to stock firmware to sell the device. Is it safe to lock the bootloader while Skydragon is on my device? and after that, just run the AT&T RUU and I'm done, right?
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Correct. It doesn't matter what ROM is on the device when you relock the bootloader. The phone will be rendered unable to boot (may even wipe OS) when you relock.
sarxion said:
Also, do you by any chance have any resource on how to relock the bootloader? I've searched for guides on this but I the guides I find don't look very trustworthy
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I don't know what you mean by "trustworthy". But you won't fine a "guide" because its a single fastboot command: fastboot oem lock
redpoint73 said:
Correct. It doesn't matter what ROM is on the device when you relock the bootloader. The phone will be rendered unable to boot (may even wipe OS) when you relock.
I don't know what you mean by "trustworthy". But you won't fine a "guide" because its a single fastboot command: fastboot oem lock
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Thank you very much. So I can run the RUU with my M8 on bootloader mode? Because after relocking the bootloader, I'm asuming it probably won't even boot since it's running a custom ROM and kernel. (I'll be running the exact same RUU version I ran before installing the custom rom)
sarxion said:
So I can run the RUU with my M8 on bootloader mode?
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The RUU will run with the phone in bootloader-fastboot mode, yes.
sarxion said:
Because after relocking the bootloader, I'm asuming it probably won't even boot since it's running a custom ROM and kernel.
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That is correct. And in fact, as far as I know, the phone is rendered unable to boot into OS after relocking the bootloader, even if you were on the stock ROM.
OP,
Were you able to go back to stock?