[Q] Stock "Messages" App? - HTC Droid DNA

Tried searching around for a bit, couldn't find what I'm looking for, so here goes (If there is a thread that I couldn't find, I do apologize...)
Second day using the DNA (unrooted). Aside from a few customization issues (compared to my RAZR), i.e. the wallpaper setting annoyance, the only other thing that's bothering me is the Messages stock app. I truly don't like that it has the "all messages" style, showing my Voicemails with my text messages. I have a separate Voicemail app that came stock, why do I need to see them in two separate places? Very minor issue, I know haha, but it's frustrating to me.
Anyways, here's my question: Is there a setting that I'm missing where you can set the Messages app to automatically open to the SMS/MMS tab instead of All Messages? Or should I just go ahead and disable the Messages app and download Handcent or another texting app?

The voicemail app is the messaging app. They are the sane app. If you click the voicemail icon in the app drawer it'll open the voicemail tab in the messaging app. And no, there is no way to open the smsmms tab by default.
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Booo. I just noticed that the voicemail icon opens up the same thing lol. That's lame. Guess I'm gunna install a different messaging app :/

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Stock messaging app wont disable

I use handcent but the stock messaging app receives ALL incoming and outgoing messages. WTF! Ive unchecked everything in settings of the stock app but its still processing all of my messages. Anyone else having this issue. Any solutions on disabling it. thx
what do you mean processing all your messages?
it always does... any messaging app on your phone WILL "process" them but all you can really do is disable the notifications....
thesparky007 said:
what do you mean processing all your messages?
it always does... any messaging app on your phone WILL "process" them but all you can really do is disable the notifications....
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I know that...
...but typically when I install a message app and disable the stock app notifications and the proceed to use a txt feature I will be asked which app I want to default to this action....I haven't gotten that and my stock app is still in charge.
The stock app sucks, handcent ftw.
Even when I send a message in hadncent the stock messaging app has the sent message as well. On evo4g when I disabled stock app it just laid dormant. This thing is like a virus or some kind of spyware
Clear defaults maybe
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ktrotter11 said:
Clear defaults maybe
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
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This.
Hit menu applications manage applications then find the stock app and hit clear defaults. Next time you choose an action that requires text it'll ask you again which app to set as default.
Clearing data doesnt work. It just restarts the app. never gives an option to choose default
I have noticed this also. On the OG EVO the stock message app would stay unused while in 3VO it is always getting messages and also showing unread bubble on the app shortcut.
I am actually using stock now since the conversations are threaded like handcent. Handcent can't do unread bubbles on the shortcuts on home screen or on lock screen.
And clearing defaults is greyed out. It says no "defaults set"
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And clearing defaults is greyed out. It says no "defaults set"
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You're clearing defaults on the stock app though? If it's greyed out then you haven't set the default app and you probably just never changed out the messaging icon on your lock screen or main screen.
I wouldn't use the disable stock messaging app setting in Handcent. It starts the whole 9016 texts when you get voicemails. I tried it and since it disables the stock app completely the 9016 texts don't get stopped before Handcent gets them so you don't get the VVM.
I've also noticed the count bubble on the icon in the app grid and I don't like it, but I don't know a way around it yet.
wardfan220 said:
I wouldn't use the disable stock messaging app setting in Handcent. It starts the whole 9016 texts when you get voicemails. I tried it and since it disables the stock app completely the 9016 texts don't get stopped before Handcent gets them so you don't get the VVM.
I've also noticed the count bubble on the icon in the app grid and I don't like it, but I don't know a way around it yet.
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True, but fixable. Download spc from the market. It blocks the 9016 texts, and you still get voicemail! Win.
One thing I noticed different in this stock messaging app vs the OG evo is that we dont seem to have an option to uncheck the "auto retrieve" messages. This setting exists in Handcent, and existed in 4g. I always used to uncheck it in stock, and then check it in Handcent. So, looks like we are screwed until they update the app.

Handcent and Visual Voicmail

Since the Evo 3D cannot be rooted yet I am hoping that this is something that can be explained and someone has had similar problem and has a answer.
I have had te Evo 3D since launch day and Handcent is probably the first app I installed on day one ad seemsed to be working just fine until a few days ago.
When I get a voicemail it use to go to the stock visual voicemail but the last few I had gotten my notification started coming from Handcent. It would say I have a message and to call to listen and it would have a 480-970-0000 # to call. Now if I am not mistaken that is a Google voice number but I haven't ever used google voice even though I have a google voice account.
I kept trying to go through Handcent to see if all the settings were correct but I couldn't find anything out of place. Then I did the only thing I could think of and that was to remove handcent and my visual voicemail returned.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a way to correct it?
I want to keep and use Handcent but I can't figure out why it just started interferring with voicemail.
Can anyone explain this oddity? I hate the stock message app and hope there is a solution because I don't want to have o continue using it and want to us Handcent.
Now I haven't tried to use GoSMS to see if it will work with it but isn't it on the exact same format as Handcent? They are so similar I wonder if they aren't really the same app just different names.
you have to uncheck handcent's setting making it the default messenger. the native sms app has to get the trigger for visual voicemail.
thanks, I was wondering if that would do it. I did uncheck it and voicemails seems to be working properly.....
Where exactly is that option to "uncheck handcent's setting making it the default messenger" can't seem to find it. I myself am having that problem.
Beaner84 said:
Where exactly is that option to "uncheck handcent's setting making it the default messenger" can't seem to find it. I myself am having that problem.
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I had this problem too and this fixed it for me as well.
In the handcent sms app hit your menu button, go to settings => application settings => default messaging application => disable.
If you intend to only use handcent as I do, make sure to turn off your notifications in the stock messaging app so you don't receive two notifications per 1 message.
Also, on a side note, I had a problem with sending picture messages over handcent, they would always seem to get hung up and not send, but when i tried to send on the stock app it sent just fine. Anyone else have this happen to them?
Thanks for the help, found it!
Also, I get the same problem sometimes when sending picture msgs, where they get "hung up" as you mentioned. Usually when that happens to me, I cancel the picture mail then resend it again. That sometimes works for me.
i have the same problem with gosms but i dont have any option to disable it as the default messaging app
jb4kats said:
Since the Evo 3D cannot be rooted yet I am hoping that this is something that can be explained and someone has had similar problem and has a answer.
I have had te Evo 3D since launch day and Handcent is probably the first app I installed on day one ad seemsed to be working just fine until a few days ago.
When I get a voicemail it use to go to the stock visual voicemail but the last few I had gotten my notification started coming from Handcent. It would say I have a message and to call to listen and it would have a 480-970-0000 # to call. Now if I am not mistaken that is a Google voice number but I haven't ever used google voice even though I have a google voice account.
I kept trying to go through Handcent to see if all the settings were correct but I couldn't find anything out of place. Then I did the only thing I could think of and that was to remove handcent and my visual voicemail returned.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a way to correct it?
I want to keep and use Handcent but I can't figure out why it just started interferring with voicemail.
Can anyone explain this oddity? I hate the stock message app and hope there is a solution because I don't want to have o continue using it and want to us Handcent.
Now I haven't tried to use GoSMS to see if it will work with it but isn't it on the exact same format as Handcent? They are so similar I wonder if they aren't really the same app just different names.
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Actually I just went through this and there is a solution that lets you use Handcent and Visual Voicemail.
In Handcent the latest version allows you to make Handcent your default SMS/MMS app. Of course the natural thing to do is select that. Well that's what messes up VVM and causes those annoying text messages instead of the actual voicemails being sent to your device.
Just select "Disable" for that feature. (turn off all notifications on the stock message app so you don't get double notifications).
Next go to VVM and click on the menu and select compose. Put your own phone number in the TO: address field. Next, record a short 1 or 2 second message. Then press send. This will cause VVM to begin working again and in a few seconds any voicmails that are waiting will be sent to your device.
By the way, I've sent the folks at Handcent an email letting them know of this issue. They have yet to respond.
Thanks for the workaround mvansomeren, this was driving me NUTS! All temp fixed thanks to your instructions. Hopefully Handcent will release an update.
I know the feeling! Glad it worked for you as well.

[Q] Text messages not appearing

I have Google Voice integration set up via Sprint (and I'm using the default text message handler).
For some reason when I have a conversation actually open on the screen I can get a text message (sound and vibration), and the message bar at the top will preview it, but it's not showing in the actual conversation.
I've missed several MMS this way (as well as normal texts).
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I have Google Voice integration set up via Sprint (and I'm using the default text message handler).
For some reason when I have a conversation actually open on the screen I can get a text message (sound and vibration), and the message bar at the top will preview it, but it's not showing in the actual conversation.
I've missed several MMS this way (as well as normal texts).
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yea, if i read your post right, it sounds like the same bug i've been experiecing. def an odd bug in the htc sense messaging app they provide as stock software. i'm also using gv thru sprint integration. usually hitting the back arrow to exit the conversation and move back to the sms inbox then allows the new message to populate.
because of this bug i've now developer the habiting of exiting all conversations and going back to the inbox before turning the screen off or switching programs.
if you're experiencing a different bug, could you perhaps provide more detail?
Pretty much the exact same thing except it never comes back, even if I hit back and go back into it.
I'll give another messaging app a try.
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Pretty much the exact same thing except it never comes back, even if I hit back and go back into it.
I'll give another messaging app a try.
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oh how odd the message doesn't appear when you exit the conversation..
perhaps there is an issue with the sms-mms database the app is using. the only easy solution there would be to wipe the database it is using and start fresh. i don't think there are any tools for analyzing the sms-mms database used by the htc messaging app as the sms-mms databased used by the aosp messaging app is different.
if wiping the database doesnt clear the issue, then it would appear most definitely to be a htc messaging app bug.
also, the nice option with google voice is you can check the gv app on your device to see whether or not the actual message came all the way through. if it appears in gv, but not in htc stock messaging app, thats def a bad sign for the htc messaging app (assuming you have good cell signal).
perhaps one of the developers might be encouraged to take a look into the app and see if its a bug they're able to fix through decompiling and recompiling the app.
Handcent seems to have fixed the issue.
I wouldn't be able to check Google Voice since the issue seems to have been most prevalent on MMS messages.
I've had lots of issues with Google Voice integration. I would randomly stop getting text messages for 1-2 hours at a time, every 2-3 days. If I checked Google Voice the messages were there, but they never came in on my phone. I could send messages to other carriers just fine. I couldn't get their messages though. Sprint was no go both ways.
After I deactivated Google Voice, the issue went away. Sucks, I'd love to use the application.

[Q] Which app allow sending/receiving emoji/emoticons (text message) w/iPhone users?

I'm coming from an iPhone 4 & one of the features I loved about it is the emoji/emoticons (smiley faces in text messages) I can send & receive with other iPhone/iPod/iPad users. Are there any apps I can send/receive emoji/emoticons with iPhone users (in otherwords, cross-platform)? I've read Handcent should be able to do this but won't be able to verify until my GNote arrives later today & activate it. Also, whatever new MMS messaging app(s) I download, I'm assuming I should disable text notification for the stock messaging app? Which one is the stock one? Thanks & looking forward to jumping ship!
GO SMS and then download the emjoi plugin and go sms is better the handcent. Handcent has a problem with mms at times cool little app but go sms is fast and easy to use.
That was helpful!
xavier55 said:
GO SMS and then download the emjoi plugin and go sms is better the handcent. Handcent has a problem with mms at times cool little app but go sms is fast and easy to use.
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Yeah, I just read about Go SMS while using the search feature but didn't know if it could do emoji's. Thanks for the info & comparison, I'll download that! I'm assuming I should disable text notification for the stock messaging app? Which one is the stock one?
The stock messaging app is called "Messaging". I believe that GO SMS (which I also really like and use) actually gives the option to turn off the stock messaging notifications when you first download and open it (at least I remember that for some reason).
Vellan said:
The stock messaging app is called "Messaging". I believe that GO SMS (which I also really like and use) actually gives the option to turn off the stock messaging notifications when you first download and open it (at least I remember that for some reason).
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Ok, cool thanks! You guys/gals have no idea how relieved I am to hear there are apps that does this on the Android Market.
My wife and I have not had any trouble she iPhone me handcent
ghettopops said:
My wife and I have not had any trouble she iPhone me handcent
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Thx, ya I'm gonna try out both & see which one I prefer.

Are you using AT&T Messages?

I just happened to be going through the AT&T bloatware and happened upon this app - I decided to see what it was all about, and lo and behold, it's actually useful!
It puts your SMS, voicemails, and call log in the same stream. It also puts them in the cloud, and gives you a Speech-to-Text transcription of your voicemails, which is nice.
I have some minor complaints, but overall I enjoy using it. I have a few concerns about AT&T having all my texts on a website somewhere but it's a great way to have them all already backed up if you lose your phone, etc.
You can even send SMS from the website.
So, are you using it? Do you prefer another app for these things?
I was using it the first week of ownership. It's not bad but I quit because people would text me photos and they would only show up tiny?
Went with the gosms pro app...works great.
I don't want to use it but it's the only way I can get my vvm.. I've tried using the. Apk floating around here but it keeps telling me it can't validate it. I wantbto get away from it
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n00b1269 said:
I don't want to use it but it's the only way I can get my vvm.. I've tried using the. Apk floating around here but it keeps telling me it can't validate it. I wantbto get away from it
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I use it.
I like the VV to Text and the "cloud" functionality... I only want it gone b/c it takes over notifications and I'd like to use the BLN functionality of Da_G's OC Kernel... BLN doesn't work with AT&T Messages (yet).
@n00b1269, VV to Text (Which is what AT&T Messages does) is different than regular VV. I think if you have your account changed to regular VV, then the original VV .apk will work... I think.
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I don't want to use it but it's the only way I can get my vvm.. I've tried using the. Apk floating around here but it keeps telling me it can't validate it. I wantbto get away from it
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your going to have to call or chat with AT&T to have them reprovison your account in order to use the VVM app thats posted here in the forum i had used the messages app first then it screwed my account somehow not letting the VVM app validate if you look at that other thread i posted there
that sound like google voice only GV is 1000% better!
I used it for awhile, but the vlingo in car mode won't read text messages from it. So I switched back to handcent for text, and YouMail for vvm. Works great, and I love the new plugin for YouMail, called who are you, that gives true caller id for all calls.
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+1 For Google Voice
I followed the instructions on the Google Voice website and had it up and running in two minutes.
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Yes. I like att messaging a lot. Its simple and clean. I like the ui better than GV. For my use it has more functionality than GV except for the option to leave different voicemail greeting for different callers.
GV gives free texting but I have the $30 unlimited m to m and texting so no advantage there. Also I don't think GV support mms unless that's changed.
Only problem I can't get SMS popup app to work with it. I'm using Popup app instead and it works okay.
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I don't want to use it but it's the only way I can get my vvm.. I've tried using the. Apk floating around here but it keeps telling me it can't validate it. I wantbto get away from it
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I am using VVM on my stock GNOTE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452330
DL it to your pc and email it to your Gmail acct that is on your Note. Then check the box under apps that allows you to install from Non-Market places. (Unknown sources) Under settings-applications-Unknown sources.
PLEASE NOTE
if you have already set up AT&T Messages, you will need to uninstall it and either call AT&T from another phone or log into your online att.com acct and do the support chat. They will have to remove Voice Mail and the feature AT&T Messages. They will then have to provision/apply Visual Voicemail back on.
It works great and I am stoked to have it back on my phone. I just had the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and VVM was on there. Loved it. Anyway, hope this helps.
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n00b1269 said:
I don't want to use it but it's the only way I can get my vvm.. I've tried using the. Apk floating around here but it keeps telling me it can't validate it. I wantbto get away from it
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It did that to me to but I did the support chat and had them remove AT&T Messages feature and Voice Mail. I then powered my phone off and on, they added Visual Voicemail back on, powered off and on again and it worked.
The AT&T Messages feature is what is causing the issue.
I'm using it right now for VVM and it seems to be the only way to receive iMessages (Former iPhone User) in group form. If I try and get the messages from the stock app, I cant reply all... Anyone know of any other messaging apps that can receive and send messages in a group sms/mms fashion?
thenuges said:
I'm using it right now for VVM and it seems to be the only way to receive iMessages (Former iPhone User) in group form. If I try and get the messages from the stock app, I cant reply all... Anyone know of any other messaging apps that can receive and send messages in a group sms/mms fashion?
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I know GO SMS Pro supports group messaging, but I'm having an issue with people receiving double and triple messages from me while using that.
EDIT: You can't receive iMessages. iOS and OS X only, for now.
The ATT Messages app seems to work the best for me atleast for the iMessage style group chats. Go SMS Pro always splits it up for some reason, not sure why.
question about Go SMS Pro, I installed the app and its working fine (mostly use for the msg without closing other apps) and i would like to set it to my default Messaging app. So i go into Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Messaging>Clear Defaults but when i go to launch Messaging app it does not ask me what app i want to launch nor to set it as default.
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question about Go SMS Pro, I installed the app and its working fine (mostly use for the msg without closing other apps) and i would like to set it to my default Messaging app. So i go into Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Messaging>Clear Defaults but when i go to launch Messaging app it does not ask me what app i want to launch nor to set it as default.
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If you launch the Messaging app, you're going to launch the Samsung Messaging app. Just like if you pressed S Memo, it's going to launch S Memo, not some other note taking app on the phone. You need to open the GO SMS Pro icon. In Edit Mode, you can drag and drop the GO SMS icon over the default Messaging icon to replace it in the TouchWiz tray.
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If you launch the Messaging app, you're going to launch the Samsung Messaging app. Just like if you pressed S Memo, it's going to launch S Memo, not some other note taking app on the phone. You need to open the GO SMS Pro icon. In Edit Mode, you can drag and drop the GO SMS icon over the default Messaging icon to replace it in the TouchWiz tray.
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i only bring up this questions because i dont like the way the icon looks for the GO SMS Pro... i much prefer the default messaging app icon but i guess theirs no way to change that... cause replacing the icon just puts that ugly GO SMS Icon there... lol
Never used it and never realized it did all that. I thought it was like a chat thing for ATT users like 3 of my friends and me could all see each others texts like a chat room.
I've been using Google Voice for years now.
VVM
To be more specific on the issue with VVM. IF you ran the ATT Messaging app, it causes all sorts of changes in ATT's system on your account. The Tech/Rep looking at it for you will tell you all is well, and in their defence, it appears that it is correct. However, it's not and it's deep in their system and they can not control it.
To get it corrected, you have to have them COMPLETLY REMOVE YOUR DATA PLAN ( re-read that 10x.. it is EXACTLY what they have to do to get it working ). VVM is attached to your data plan. They can tinker with voice mail all day, it will do NOTHING for you. And good luck getting a rep who will actually go though the trouble of removing the data plan, especially if your on unlimited in the states still. However, if you anoy them enough, and keep them on the line long enough, they will eventually do it just to shut you up. Your best method of doing this is actually to go to the store and do it there. The reps there have permission to do it, where as the phone tech's kept having to call other departments to get it done.
After 3 days and 4-5 hours on the phone with a tech they got mine working. So I immediatly loaded the att app, it killed VVM, and I was able to drive to my local store, and they had it working again in 10 minutes ( that is 10 minutes after the guy did what i asked, complete removal of the data plan ). I did this just to prove it was a repeatable fix and not a 1x deal based on some random error.
Apologies if this is irrelevant. I don't have a i777, but I set up AT&T Messages on my i727 (Skyrocket). Didn't take more than a day to realize I hated the interface (and the fact that the app shanghais all notifications).
Unable to resolve how to turn off the notifications, on a whim I decided to just try to uninstall the app. To my amazement, it actually worked. My regular VVM went back to normal. I needed no interjection from AT&T at all.
I know this is very much a "hatchet" solution and not a "scalpel", but hopefully it's helpful all the same.

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