I bought an X2 a few weeks ago because it was available to me for $50 (yeah, I'm. Cheap). I really love it (except for the physical buttons (wtf?)) and I really wanted something larger than my Incredible. However after reading threads for a few weeks it just really seems the development for the X2 is being past over for older equipment (i.e. my Viewsonic G Tab?) & newer phones. Did I pick the wrong phone??
I'm not crazy techie, so I don't know the complexity, but the Droid, the Droid X & the Droid 2 have been cracked. Did Motorola really go to so much trouble making the X2 so different that it is much more difficult to crack or are the efforts to crack this phone being passed over for some reason? Do I just need to avoid Motorola phones in the future?
Like I said I'm not a very technical, but have contributed (donation-wise) to multiple ROMs I used on my Incredible & gTab & I just thought I would see similar flexibility on the X2 by now, so I just want to know if I need move on from the X2 or not?
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Yeah, I don't really run that much and I regularly see only about 3-9MB avail. ;(
I'm starting to think this is a middle of the road phone that I should have just past by & it seems the developers think so as well. Guess I should have researched more, not been so cheap & been less impatient.
Well I'm cheap, so I'll need to wait for better pricing on the latest phones, but if Motorola is going to be such a problem, then I guess I need to go with Samsung or HTC.
mistawolfe said:
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Agreed, they do however, run very well on any of the current available roms imo. The devs have done an excellent job of working with what we have.
Flashaholik
The above is true. Nitro is the best thing that happened to this phone. Try eclipse out and see how you like it then.
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If you don't have 4g in your area, x2 is your best bet. Im running eclipse and am more than happy to keep x2 until mid 2013 when 4g arrives in my area. If you have 4g, get something else.
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The only thing that sux about this phone is not having an unlocked bootloader but with the roms we have available it runs super smooth and it's reliable and yes nitro is the best thing to happen to this phone...don't get discouraged paying 50 bucks for this dualcore phone is a steal bro...
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
ralphwiggum1 said:
This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Please enlighten us noobs on this subject professor wolf lol
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xaalfx said:
There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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the lack of non-stock ROMs is partially because of the bootloader. The other reason is because of lack of interest.
Droid X, 2, 2 Global all still have locked bootloaders (I believe), yet a lot of custom ROMs including CyanogenMod and MIUI. Not sure if all the dual-core Motorolas are unlocked, but I know some are.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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No actual ROMs huh? So a ROM isn't a ROM because it doesn't have a custom kernel? What do you call Eclipse? What do you call Liberty?
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
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You talking about me? Or the newbs?
I was able to trade my dx2 for an incredible 2 and the difference is astounding. The dx2 has good hardware and amazing build quality but a lot of the major selling points of the phone don't mean anything. Qhd is a gimmick, as is dual-core IMO. Nothing is built to take advantage of it, including Android.
The best thing about the dx2 was the build quality and feel which is second to none. Everything about the hardware is more refined than my INC2. Eclipse is a great ROM too and makes this device worthwhile.
All in all, I think this phone has a chance at being everything that the x was but it is going to require more people to stand up.
Bottom line: if you want a phone for a specific ROM/kernel, do your research before you spend your cash. Your response to your device will be based on your expectations.
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The other issue, with the rate the new "bigger badder" phones are popping up, Dev's can't keep up, nor afford to buy every phone on the block. This Android runs 2.2.2, the next runs 2.3.5, the next runs 4.0.1, you get the point. These 1 man teams like Nitro are insane working on 3/4 phones at a time, and building their rom at a pace that keeps up with Android builds and hardware differences. Not to mention the continued support despite the pace of new phones being released. If you want everything under the sun, buy a phone everyone is interested in. Look how ridiculous the Galaxy Nexus forum is already and the phone was just ANNOUNCED weeks ago, not even released yet. We have what we have over here, and complaining about it doesn't help anything. Short of unlocking the BL ourselves and enticing devs by buying them the phone, we probably are not going to get more than the handful of ROMs and support we currently have.
The newly released Eclipse 1.2 and Liberty 3 RC1 are fantastic. This is how the X2 shouldve have been out of the box. Liberty final is coming soon and that'll be it till we get ICS. My phone is now almost as smooth as an iphone.
Also, use the following apps:
Go Launcher
Opera
Quickpic
ES File Explorer
ROM Toolbox
Handcent
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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That's because it IS great and every update gets even better.
don't forget to customize your phone to make it run how you want. Don't feel limited in what this phone can do/handle.
A custom launcher can make a lot of difference in how you phone feels.
I LOVE go launcher ex. Lots of themes and home screen options. Different screen transition animation(even in app drawer..sphere animation is sick)
Right now im still using the launcher that came wit 1.2eclipse..it works smooth and looks good.
Just throwing in my 2cents but the previously mentions about just buying on cool specs is always going to backfire. And the other point about the devs not being able to keep up with the phones is the second major issue.
I got "upgraded" to the DX2 from my DX by insurance and I have run almost every rom I could. After the time I spent with my DX it was as fast as this phone is and there was way more choice of hacks and roms. I have to give serious props to Nitro, the Liberty crew and Navendrob (hope I spelled the name right) because they have done some great work. But unfortunately by the time all their hard work is finally paying off the majority of us will be on the next phone.
To bad more people can't afford to donate to devs so they can have new toys to hack on....
Hello everyone, this is my first post here,Ive been reading here for quite a while,and I cannot post this where Id like to in development yet....so Im putting it here....I was a long time Eclipse user since .2...all the way up to 1.2,then I tried running Molten 2.0 and absolutely loved it,it was far and away the fastest my x2 ever ran....however there was no HDMI ....Does anyone know if it was fixed in 2.1 or if I can just push it in system with root explorer? Thank you. John
Another speed bump.
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Can beats v
Aideo work in are phone
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I used it and didn't notice a difference I read that you have to have the headphones for it to truly work but the short answer is yes
don't be scared it's only a phone
ogd x d2g x2 gs3
old ladies ^
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Can beats v
Aideo work in are phone
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eclipse has beats built in, and i have noticed a difference. but not big enough to matter, as the sound was easily replicated using almost any of the stock dsp managers.
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i feel like BEATS is a gimmick to get people who still think dr. dre is cool to buy phones that they know nothing about. get a good dsp manager (from the market or built into your rom) and call it a day. in the end, the main difference is what you are plugging it into .
Cool I found this using the search feature
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31400937
Nice little read:beer:
don't be scared it's only a phone
ogd x d2g x2 gs3
old ladies ^
im use Pimp My Rom app, its work on my stock rom, always nand backup before try it, sorry 4 my english
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Working on CM7 too...yes :thumbup:
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I'm a pretty basic guy with pretty basic needs. I like a certain look and functionality to my DNA. I have been debating over what my DD should be and am using Viper DNA (which completely kicks major ass good). When I mean basic I really mean it though. I keep going back and forth from the stock 2.04.605.2 710RD rooted rom and this one and I need a guide or some pointers to get what I want to get out of it. I just learned how to use ADB last week so I am new to the format, but I did manage to do the following:
SuperCID
UNLOCKED Bootloader
Root
S-Off
Blocked OTA updates
Flashed a kernel
My current setup is the updated radio of 1.01.01.0110 and the kernel for the 2.04.605.2 710RD update 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
I think I may be making bad decisions at the install of Viper DNA because the stock rom battery lasts forever but the Viper DNA rom only lasts half as long so I must be making a mistake somewhere.
All I really want is the stock version with these simple modifications :
Basic calculator as the sense one has weird number design (ugly design really)
Aosp looking status bar like the one guichh has but with a plain vertical battery with no percent
Aosp dialer
Working mms with aosp theme as well
Everything else can stay stock. Oh and if that pesky wifi notification in the pull down will go away that would he nice.
I know there are individual fixes for these (in most cases) but one of these options (status bar) is hard to pull of without running viper tweaks so you can't really pull that off on stock.
I know every end user is different and I guess I will have to try development next to really get what I want but if there is an easier way I would appreciate any and all help.
Actually I've been really reluctant about flashing a Rom because of that. Stock battery has been so good these few days I've had the phone. So it seems like you will have to play with the tweaks on viper / try different kernels on it. One reliable Rom that you could try is newtroot's. His were always very generous on battery life on previous devices.
The theme section has a good aosp theme last I saw. Not 100% sure, I kind of like sense 4.
You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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CharliesTheMan said:
You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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I have heard a rumor that Viper DNA version 1.2 will be based off of the 2.04 version. I've been a beta tester for Sony for a very very long time. So I know the feeling of being sworn to secrecy. Hopefully, I will look forward to the new Viper DNA 1.2 and love it as much as you say.
CharliesTheMan said:
You are going to love ViperDNA 1.2. As a beta tester I'm sworn to confidentiality but I can say that it will solve all of the problems you mentioned.
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No your not. Nits has said multiple times that beta testers can talk about it and post screen shots.
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Jaybone073 said:
I have heard a rumor that Viper DNA version 1.2 will be based off of the 2.04 version. I've been a beta tester for Sony for a very very long time. So I know the feeling of being sworn to secrecy. Hopefully, I will look forward to the new Viper DNA 1.2 and love it as much as you say.
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That's not even a rumor, that's a fact. Lol.
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Bigandrewgold said:
No your not. Nits has said multiple times that beta testers can talk about it and post screen shots.
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That's not even a rumor, that's a fact. Lol.
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Nice to see you chime in Big Andrew. You have been most helpful to me in the past and I really appreciate your input as well as everyone else who has put up with the noob learning how to use adb. I managed to master my Thunderbolt a while back but the DNA has opened up a whole new world to me and I feel I may be annoying more than I should be. I know I ask a lot of questions and I try to learn something new every night so it may be time to crack the knuckles and dig into theming, skinning, or dare I say it, mild development to achieve what I am looking for.
If there is a way to do what I need running stock rooted with the stock kernel I will be more than happy to take a good "noob bashing" with replies that say something to the effect of this:
Okay idiot bone - step one to get your soap status bar and icons is to go to adb and do this...
Lol. I can take a good bashing. I realize that xda is a little more tech savvy than my previous forum home so I am prepared to hear comments like that....and "your village called, they want their idiot back". Lol.
Hey everyone. I'm using a (rooted) Motorola Droid Razr Maxx running android 4.1.2 (JB) and was wondering;
What is/are your favorite ROM(s) and why? Including Pros/cons thanks in advance!
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PAC man rom I like it because it has all the Mods of "paranoid android" "aokp" "cyanogen mod" all in one rom you don't have to switch back and forth sometimes you want something on cm but its only offered on paranoid or sometimes you want something from AOKP but its only on cm with this ROM you have all of them you won't get bored of it and it still in development so you'll be getting updates for it...cons I can't really find much everything works fine the newest build fixed all the problems I had before
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I think you were also supposed to post this on Q&A lol
Oops, yea on second thought yea I should have thanks
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OP dont bother posting in the Q&A best ROM threads closed due to the nature of them...there are no best...just test for yourself. Thanks