So I know obviously Wallet isn't working for the stock ROM, but I was wondering if there was any ROM for the DNA that it worked for, or is this a much deeper problem than that?
Thanks for your time!
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gevis said:
So I know obviously Wallet isn't working for the stock ROM, but I was wondering if there was any ROM for the DNA that it worked for, or is this a much deeper problem than that?
Thanks for your time!
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The problem appears to be much deaper. Google wallet needs a secure element,(and it appears this phone doesn't have necessary component(s). Also it has been reported the nfc isn't compatible. Probably never happen for this phone unless Google makes a drastic change in approach. (probably won't happen).
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Thank you very much!
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bigpapax said:
The problem appears to be much deaper. Google wallet needs a secure element,(and it appears this phone doesn't have necessary component(s). Also it has been reported the nfc isn't compatible. Probably never happen for this phone unless Google makes a drastic change in approach. (probably won't happen).
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ISIS supposedly has access to secure element and works on the DNA, so I have heard.
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ISIS supposedly has access to secure element and works on the DNA, so I have heard.
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I'm missing my Google wallet too (since I switched from the Galaxy Nexus), so I've done a bit of research.
As near as I can tell, ISIS could work on this phone, by way of a sim card with the secure element built in. The NFC in the DNA is programmed by HTC to look for a secure element on the sim card. If you manage to get a sim card from Verizon w/ the secure element, ISIS has a key to unlock the secure element on a SIM, but Google Wallet doesn't.
I would be surprised if the phone didn't also have a secure element, but unfortunately the o/s as released from HTC is programmed to look for a secure element on the SIM card instead.
I booted up the cm10, installed the modified Google Wallet that other users (like the s3) have been using, however a logcat reveals that Wallet is still unable to find a secure element
I'd like to get a hold of one of these nfc Sims. I am going to call tomorrow
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I'm missing my Google wallet too (since I switched from the Galaxy Nexus), so I've done a bit of research.
As near as I can tell, ISIS could work on this phone, by way of a sim card with the secure element built in. The NFC in the DNA is programmed by HTC to look for a secure element on the sim card. If you manage to get a sim card from Verizon w/ the secure element, ISIS has a key to unlock the secure element on a SIM, but Google Wallet doesn't.
I would be surprised if the phone didn't also have a secure element, but unfortunately the o/s as released from HTC is programmed to look for a secure element on the SIM card instead.
I booted up the cm10, installed the modified Google Wallet that other users (like the s3) have been using, however a logcat reveals that Wallet is still unable to find a secure element
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This is all starting to make more sense. A good friend (and android developer) said he can't find a secure element on this phone, and doesn't have time to look any further. If it were built into a SIM then that part of the puzzle would be solved, but then making Google wallet work would still be a chore, but hopefully not impossible.
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Got mine in today. Google wallet still won't work.....
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Got mine in today. Google wallet still won't work.....
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You might try comparing the nfcaccess.xml from the /etc directory. The DNA comes with a nfcaccess.xml file that has key for isis. The s3 hack replaces the nfcaccess.xml file with a sprint nfcaccess.xml that has a key for wallet instead of ISIS. You might want to try replacing the original DNA nfcaccess.xml file with one from a sprint device. Or possibly putting both keys into a file.
Ahhh got so close.......
Stuck on this screen now and then force closes
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Ahhh got so close.......
View attachment 1713686 Stuck on this screen now and then force closes
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I got to this point last night also. It installs and opens fine but hangs because it can't find the secure element. I edited the nfcee_access.xml as jasoraso suggested and copied the signature for wallet from my Nexus. I have a few other ideas that I'm going to try for now but most likely it will need the nfc sim to initialize.
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I wish I could find the Isis app somewhere....
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I wish I could find the Isis app somewhere....
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Just Google it, I found it in about 5 minutes.
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Seriously? I tried but never found it. Been doing it all at work so guess I probably just overlooked it.
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You found the apk online? I've been looking still and no luck
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You found the apk online? I've been looking still and no luck
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This might help:
http://bit.ly/WEPqOs
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1939165&page=2
Ferradinho said:
This might help:
http://bit.ly/WEPqOs
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1939165&page=2
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Yeah, that's where I found it.
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Argumentation said:
Yeah, that's where I found it.
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But it's not usable with the DNA, right? Has to have the proper sim card?
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You can get the needed SIM card from customer service through verizon. I had to find the Verizon version of this app and then installed it but it says it can't run because my phone is rooted
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Since Google wallet works on the Sprint version now is there a way to make it work with other carriers? Has any body tried?
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I installed wallet but it gets stuck on the setting up wallet screen then force closes.
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nev310 said:
I installed wallet but it gets stuck on the setting up wallet screen then force closes.
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Same here; last info I've heard as I understand it is that the AT&T HTC One does not have the Secure Element enabled. I'm not sure if there's a workaround, but I'm searching for answers. It has been suggested that a new ROM with the secure element enabled might help, but I don't know of any (but I am far from an expert
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Same here; last info I've heard as I understand it is that the AT&T HTC One does not have the Secure Element enabled. I'm not sure if there's a workaround, but I'm searching for answers. It has been suggested that a new ROM with the secure element enabled might help, but I don't know of any (but I am far from an expert
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I think It may. The sprint version actually has gsm radios with 3g and lte. So As the international and t-mobile and att version are all the same boards it is not a big stretch to say that the sprint board may be the same too or have the same major components. I think we will have a hack for wallet at some point.
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Same here; last info I've heard as I understand it is that the AT&T HTC One does not have the Secure Element enabled. I'm not sure if there's a workaround, but I'm searching for answers. It has been suggested that a new ROM with the secure element enabled might help, but I don't know of any (but I am far from an expert
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http://www.andromods.com/apps-mod/how-to-install-google-wallet-work-on-htc-one.html
I have tried this but it gets stuck and crashes on the setup screen
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Get this to work? Any one?
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If you follow any of the tech sites/phone sites,,,im sure that once it does get hacked and enabled..it will make the front page of all those sites, so you wont miss it
I have wallet set up but purchases keep getting declined anyone no why?
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love_in_slowmotion said:
I have wallet set up but purchases keep getting declined anyone no why?
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Update: deleted my cards off gw online then re added them and gw now works
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love_in_slowmotion said:
I have wallet set up but purchases keep getting declined anyone no why?
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How did you install?
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How did you install?
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There's a guy on YouTube named wwjoshdew he has a video for gw on HTC one
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It only works for the sprint variant HTC One, so its useless for us
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I know that the S4 for AT&T has wallet thanks to some ports from the S4 for Sprint....hope it can be done on AT&T HTC One as well.
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There's a guy on YouTube named wwjoshdew he has a video for gw on HTC one
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I just checked his channel, cam you post a link to the specific video.
I dont believe it works. It involves using the xposed disable google wallet checks method, and many people(including myself) have tried this and it did NOT work. IT might let you intall google wallet, but actually getting it to work is another ballgame
I dont remember what carrier the video creator said he had, but I dont think it was AT&T
It's Sprint
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Hey guys, just dropping by from the DNA forum. For anyone interested I would keep an eye on this site...
http://www.simplytapp.com/
Tapp works different then Google Wallet, as in it doesn't require an embedded secure element. There was an older version of Tapp released in the play store when CyanogenMod 9 was released, but they are currently working on a newer version. I was able to get in touch with a member of the Tapp team, and was informed that the project is still on track!
Until Google decides to make some major changes to how Google Wallet functions with the secure element, then we won't be seeing GW on the DNA or the One series ( aside from sprint).
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Hey guys, just dropping by from the DNA forum. For anyone interested I would keep an eye on this site...
http://www.simplytapp.com/
Tapp works different then Google Wallet, as in it doesn't require an embedded secure element. There was an older version of Tapp released in the play store when CyanogenMod 9 was released, but they are currently working on a newer version. I was able to get in touch with a member of the Tapp team, and was informed that the project is still on track!
Until Google decides to make some major changes to how Google Wallet functions with the secure element, then we won't be seeing GW on the DNA or the One series ( aside from sprint).
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not to sound rude but it's a little early to be saying this don't you think? Every device I have ever owned has ended up with a working version of wallet, most recent being the att GS3
dB Zac said:
not to sound rude but it's a little early to be saying this don't you think? Every device I have ever owned has ended up with a working version of wallet, most recent being the att GS3
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If someone can rewrite wallet to make it work without an SE then more power to them. I would love to see it happen. Most of the hacks and work arounds have involved build.prop changes, and libs from a sprint variant to make wallet function correctly. So far that appears to not be the case anymore. Google them selves said with the release of the Google Edition HTC One that it does not have an embedded secure element, thus it cannot be used with Google Wallet.
It's a ****ty situation for HTC devices. Either HTC needs to ship secure elements on there phones or Google needs to allow Wallet to work without one.
Hopefully with apps like SimplyTapp, this will force some much needed change in this area!
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JonGarrett said:
I just checked his channel, cam you post a link to the specific video.
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Here you go man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXqcjq9_NLo
And thanks @love_in_slowmotion!
I think this might have been answered before, but why can't the LG Optimus G use Google Wallet to make NFC payments? I use Vanilla Rootbox (the May 18 build) and it lets me install it, but I've been worried that running it might damage something since I read we can't use it.
My main question: Why can't we use it when the Nexus 4 (by most all regards, the same phone) can?
No secure element.
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No secure element.
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So then I assume the Sprint version has it, and we don't?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168685
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So then I assume the Sprint version has it, and we don't?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168685
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Since it works for them, I guess so. I don't really know anything about it other than the ATT OG not having it so it will never work.
http://forums.att.com/t5/Android-Di...-called-quot-ISIS-quot-more-info/td-p/3265103
This may be why.
yeah. And our phone IS isis compatible (well, in the two cities it exists in, which mine is not one of.)
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So then I assume the Sprint version has it, and we don't?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168685
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Your assumptions are wrong. Go through this thread and you'll see that it doesn't work. Not without the xposed mod. And even then it's a hit and miss.
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Your assumptions are wrong. Go through this thread and you'll see that it doesn't work. Not without the xposed mod. And even then it's a hit and miss.
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So why can't we use the Xposed mod? I just have a hard time believing that the Spring LGOG and AT&T LGOG could be so different (I thought the only real difference was the camera, TBH. I'm probably way off though. Idk.)
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So why can't we use the Xposed mod? I just have a hard time believing that the Spring LGOG and AT&T LGOG could be so different (I thought the only real difference was the camera, TBH. I'm probably way off though. Idk.)
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You can use the xposed mod. It's not just for us. It's for any phone. The xposed framework has more use than just the wallet mod as well. But if I had to guess, I'd say it'd be hit and miss as well. (besides the radios, design change, and camera, they pretty much are the same)
We don't have secure element because AT&T sucks and wants to use ISIS which isn't even available outside of like two places.
There is this by CMs team https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapp
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nygfan760 said:
We don't have secure element because AT&T sucks and wants to use ISIS which isn't even available outside of like two places.
There is this by CMs team https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapp
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I just wish Isis at least would be in my town.
I have SimplyTapp, but it's kindof worthless for me right now, since I can't use it anywhere (only two cards are available, and my town has neither store.)
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yeah. And our phone IS isis compatible (well, in the two cities it exists in, which mine is not one of.)
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Visitor here from the s4 thread. Just wanted to shed some light on Isis for you guys. I for one hate Isis and will stick with Google wallet for as long as I can but if you want to try Isis, you can. They're testing in two markets. However, you're still able to get the Isis sim without being in those markets because Isis works where any paywave/paypass terminals are. Not just Isis terminals. I wanted to try Isis and be open-minded. After an hour on the phone with the rep at the call center and reps at the test markets, I found out the correct item number for the Isis sim which is 'item #41005'. Just ask them you'd like an item shipped and you have the item number. They'll ship it for free. Once you receive it, you activate it and launch Isis. As you're well aware, it won't work with rooted phones. If you're willing to try it, go for it. But for me, I didn't like it at all. It is very limited and clunky. They only support two credit cards but there is an Isis reloadable card you may use if you don't have the cards supported. But I'm sticking with Google wallet on my phone.
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Which two markets?
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Austin TX and Salt lake city UT.
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And that sim will work with an LG Optimus G? I am willing to try it. After getting it you go to a local ATT store and have it activated? I'll miss a 4.2.2 ROM though :/
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And that sim will work with an LG Optimus G? I am willing to try it. After getting it you go to a local ATT store and have it activated? I'll miss a 4.2.2 ROM though :/
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Just call in and activate it. It should work. I double checked the site for listed Isis capable phones.
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Can we bypass secure element check?
ant456 said:
Can we bypass secure element check?
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As I understand it, the Isis SIM Card comes with a Secure Element in it, so devices like ours (which is compatible with Isis) can use it.
pivotraze said:
As I understand it, the Isis SIM Card comes with a Secure Element in it, so devices like ours (which is compatible with Isis) can use it.
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It doesn't use "secure element" like in Wallet. The SIM essentially acts the same as a secure element would but is not Wallet compatible.
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I meant like can't some one way more intelligent then me make Google wallet not check for secure element chip
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I have isis wallet working on my note 3 with the pre installed nfc sim I am confirming it working I can only add cards from Amex or chase. I have not yet tapped to pay but the app is working with the cards added. I downloaded isis from the play store on my note3
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I have isis wallet working on my note 3 with the pre installed nfc sim I am confirming it working I can only add cards from Amex or chase. I have not yet tapped to pay but the app is working with the cards added. I downloaded isis from the play store on my note3
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Is there someplace I can download and install the .apk from? I see the VZW Note 3 supports this app, but I cannot find it when I search the play store. Any ideas? Thanks!
Yeah the new update v1.9 isn't working on note 3. Downloaded it on the note 2 and moved the apk but the 3 didn't like it. Does anyone have the old verison they can rip and post up??
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Here ya go.
Sweet. Arigato.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511918
At least on at&t note 3, isis 2 can work with rooted phone.
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Is Isis supported everywhere yet?
kwalnut said:
Is Isis supported everywhere yet?
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I think the question is it supported ANYWHERE yet? LOL.
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alprazolam said:
I think the question is it supported ANYWHERE yet? LOL.
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its supported at most places with the quick pay thing
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its supported at most places with the quick pay thing
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I don't have a Chase or Amex card. F*** Isis! Looking forward to when Google gets around carrier blocks on tap and pay.
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I don't have a Chase or Amex card. F*** Isis! Looking forward to when Google gets around carrier blocks on tap and pay.
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i hated that too. but do what most people are doing...Sign up for Amex Serve, there prepaid card. then once you create your serve account/card. link your debit, credit or bank to said card. Then you can use your serve card from your device and it will see hey you dont have any money on card and just take from your backup account ie your debit,credit or bank you set up attached to the serve card.
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i hated that too. but do what most people are doing...Sign up for Amex Serve, there prepaid card. then once you create your serve account/card. link your debit, credit or bank to said card. Then you can use your serve card from your device and it will see hey you dont have any money on card and just take from your backup account ie your debit,credit or bank you set up attached to the serve card.
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I appreciate the workaround advice. I think I'm gonna wait around to see what Google has up their sleeves. I'm just so against all that Isis was created for.
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I appreciate the workaround advice. I think I'm gonna wait around to see what Google has up their sleeves. I'm just so against all that Isis was created for.
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No problem. Depends on when we actually get 4.4
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I installed the ISIS 1.9 apk on a rooted Note 3, and it will not run, as it says the app checks to see if the device is rooted and will not activate. Even with using Wanam Xposed to have the status as "official". So it looks like we got screwed again. Can't use Google Wallet, and ISIS won't work if your rooted.
FAUguy said:
I installed the ISIS 1.9 apk on a rooted Note 3, and it will not run, as it says the app checks to see if the device is rooted and will not activate. Even with using Wanam Xposed to have the status as "official". So it looks like we got screwed again. Can't use Google Wallet, and ISIS won't work if your rooted.
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Did you install the xposed patch? Check the s4 forums ....I have 2.0.01 build 5 working just fine
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FAUguy said:
I installed the ISIS 1.9 apk on a rooted Note 3, and it will not run, as it says the app checks to see if the device is rooted and will not activate. Even with using Wanam Xposed to have the status as "official". So it looks like we got screwed again. Can't use Google Wallet, and ISIS won't work if your rooted.
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There is a Isis root patch in the themes and apps section. Use that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482708
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Did you install the xposed patch? Check the s4 forums ....I have 2.0.01 build 5 working just fine
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This is what I used.
It installed ISIS 1.9 and then the Root Bypass 1.1, but it would not work, so tried the newer Root Bypass 2.0, and still said it wouldn't activate because of being rooted.
Anyone else having issue where it gets all setup but when I go to add a card the list is blank??? It says It's setup but don't see any card to add.
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Yea i read that on the note 2 forum as well, that on the 4.4 google wallet is not sim dependant.. and we on note 3 can get the benifit of it. But then again, we gotta wait till Root comes out after 4.4 Lets see how long all this takes. Cant wait to try google wallet. Lots of stores around my area are already flashing this sign on their counters.
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I installed the isis root bypass framework, and all went fine until i opened the app, now it says, cannot read the secure element id.
FAUguy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425346
This is what I used.
It installed ISIS 1.9 and then the Root Bypass 1.1, but it would not work, so tried the newer Root Bypass 2.0, and still said it wouldn't activate because of being rooted.
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I was able to install ISIS 2.00.01 build 08.50 from the link below. After I installed it, said it couldn't run because the phone is rooted. I then install the ISIS Root Bypass 2.0 from the above link. Rebooted. Then was able to run and setup ISIS. Just have to try it at a store to see if it works.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1816267-Isis-2-0-on-Note-3
Hey guys I just thought I'd let you know that Google Wallet is working on the Galaxy Note 3
It works on almost all devices now but no tap to pay for us
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It works on almost all devices now but no tap to pay for us
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I didn't know that, the last time I used an android phone it was not available so I got happy about it lol
vzw disables tap to pay
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vzw disables tap to pay
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Of course they do
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Of course they do
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sucks considering isis only takes chase / amex
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sfld said:
sucks considering isis only takes chase / amex
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So much for McDonald's tommorow...
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Why would they disable tap to pay, and is this something we can un**** with custom roms?
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Why would they disable tap to pay, and is this something we can un**** with custom roms?
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Because Verizon always wants a piece of the pie no matter what. Google Wallet doesn't benefit them. Instead, they tried to get in with other carriers to create Isis, which is the same technology. Problem is that Isis is pretty much dead in the water, but Verizon won't give on to that reality, so they block the feature. With root, yes it is possible to use Google Wallet tap to pay. I did on my Galaxy S3.
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Because Verizon always wants a piece of the pie no matter what. Google Wallet doesn't benefit them. Instead, they tried to get in with other carriers to create Isis, which is the same technology. Problem is that Isis is pretty much dead in the water, but Verizon won't give on to that reality, so they block the feature. With root, yes it is possible to use Google Wallet tap to pay. I did on my Galaxy S3.
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I just read a review on google play and a sprint user was saying tap to pay did not work for him, maybe it is not a verizon thing
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sucks considering isis only takes chase / amex
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Isis is coming out with a different reload able card. Not to sure of the details, but apparently they are revamping everything in anticipation of a nationwide release. Hopefully it will be something that I can use instead of having to start an account with Chase or American Express
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I miss my Google Wallet
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Didn't they have Google wallet working on the s4 with only root? Can't this be done with the note 3??
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mrlaigle said:
Didn't they have Google wallet working on the s4 with only root? Can't this be done with the note 3??
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I'd assume you would need a custom ROM that the dev has modified to allows all NFC related functions
Please op change the tittle of your post gets me every time thinking that Google wallet is actually working thanks.
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mrlaigle said:
Didn't they have Google wallet working on the s4 with only root? Can't this be done with the note 3??
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It can be done on the S3, S4 and Note 2 currently with root. In theory it could still work on the Note 3. Its just a simple edit of the build.prop to another device model, install and setup wallet, then change the model number back.
(Not tested on Note 3. I havent tried so plz dont say that i said it could be done)
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ThePwnageKidney said:
It can be done on the S3, S4 and Note 2 currently with root. In theory it could still work on the Note 3. Its just a simple edit of the build.prop to another device model, install and setup wallet, then change the model number back.
(Not tested on Note 3. I havent tried so plz dont say that i said it could be done)
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I tried the build prop trick on Galaxy Note 3 and it fails. I edited the build prop with no problem but when you open the Wallet app it gives the following error.....
Insufficient secure element privileges for this system image. (release-keys)
NOTE: I did swap my SIM card from my Note 2 to the Note 3 so I could use my most common phone number with the new device. I have not tried this trick with the pre-installed SIM card.
alprazolam said:
Because Verizon always wants a piece of the pie no matter what. Google Wallet doesn't benefit them. Instead, they tried to get in with other carriers to create Isis, which is the same technology. Problem is that Isis is pretty much dead in the water, but Verizon won't give on to that reality, so they block the feature. With root, yes it is possible to use Google Wallet tap to pay. I did on my Galaxy S3.
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Changing the build prop is only half the fix you would need libs from either a sprint note 3 ROM. Once we get a recovery I will make a lib fix zip just as I did for the Verizon note 2.
gramsey1911 said:
Changing the build prop is only half the fix you would need libs from either a sprint note 3 ROM. Once we get a recovery I will make a lib fix zip just as I did for the Verizon note 2.
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Don't really need a flash file for this as you can manually place all the files as well. As far as I know though the Note 3 is missing the secure element to make this possible.
I sure the note 3 has a secure element ISIS uses the secure element and that works for tap to pay.
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It looks like the note 3's dont have a secure element chip and therefor none of the google wallet mods will enable tap to pay for us. looks like isis wins this battle
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sfld said:
It looks like the note 3's dont have a secure element chip and therefor none of the google wallet mods will enable tap to pay for us. looks like isis wins this battle
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Isis uses secure element as well my friend.
TechSavvy2 said:
Isis uses secure element as well my friend.
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The secure element is on your new SIM that came with the device.
So if you change your sim you don't get nfc?
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Isis uses secure element as well my friend.
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Ya unfortunately that nfc secure element used for isis is from our sim card. Verizon definitely blocked google from accessing the secure element on the sim
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Wow, this really sucks since the Best Buy rep took mine out and replaced it with their normal sim so it was easier for him. Can I get this OEM sim from Verizon?
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I used my old sim from my Galaxy S4. Will that work with a wallet mod? I do have the new sim that came with the phone still. They look exactly the same.
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usacarry said:
I used my old sim from my Galaxy S4. Will that work with a wallet mod? I do have the new sim that came with the phone still. They look exactly the same.
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right now the odds of google wallet tap to pay are slim to none. as for isis you need a secure element chip or sim I believe
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sfld said:
Ya unfortunately that nfc secure element used for isis is from our sim card. Verizon definitely blocked google from accessing the secure element on the sim
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chrisnosleep said:
Wow, this really sucks since the Best Buy rep took mine out and replaced it with their normal sim so it was easier for him. Can I get this OEM sim from Verizon?
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usacarry said:
I used my old sim from my Galaxy S4. Will that work with a wallet mod? I do have the new sim that came with the phone still. They look exactly the same.
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You'll know if the SIM card is secure-element-ready (for Isis Mobile) if its the fully white sim card. The old ones are half red and half white, they do not contain the secure element. But neither will work for Google Wallet.
Verizon is so lame. Trying to punish Google when Google is the reason they sell a million smartphones a month
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Yes the new SIM has the NFC. So Google Wallet won't work for us? VZW is really starting to piss me off
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chrisnosleep said:
Wow, this really sucks since the Best Buy rep took mine out and replaced it with their normal sim so it was easier for him. Can I get this OEM sim from Verizon?
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So here's an update to the above. I went back to Best Buy and after explaining what had happened, they were very kind and helpful to give me a sim card from another of their Note 3's from their stock. Evidently the card taken out of my was discarded somehow.
So can anyone tell me what happens when I try to activate this sim card? Will I be charged another activation fee? What will the swap affect on my phone? Should I expect any flack from Verizon after explaining what happened?
chrisnosleep said:
So here's an update to the above. I went back to Best Buy and after explaining what had happened, they were very kind and helpful to give me a sim card from another of their Note 3's from their stock. Evidently the card taken out of my was discarded somehow.
So can anyone tell me what happens when I try to activate this sim card? Will I be charged another activation fee? What will the swap affect on my phone? Should I expect any flack from Verizon after explaining what happened?
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i actually work at Best Buy and you wont get an activation fee or upgrade fee. Doing a hardware swap is free and can be done multiple times in a day if needed. You actually can do it all online if needed through your verizon account.
The only time you will get a fee for activating a phone is if your are switching carriers to start up a new line or if you upgrade. It used to be called a contract fee because the fee only applies when signing a contract. however they changed the pricing on it so now the new line fee is $35 and the upgrade fee is $30.