[Q] touchwiz vs aosp? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

Hey guys ive had my note 2 for a week now an im in love! This phone totally rocks! Im coming from a galaxy nexus an thought dat I would hate touchwiz but I dnt its really startn to grow on me.but jus wanted get anyones views on any performance gains I would get frm flashing something like cm 10.1 or aospa? Im currently on clean rom lite an it seems fine I cant kill the battery in a day I havent got anything less than 7 hours of screen time but im curious if some of these smaller sized aosp roms would improve on an already kick ass phone?

touchwiz cant be beat for all around performance, reliability, and features. something is always buggy with aosp, i would say its 90% functional. problem has been samsung not releasing source, so hacks and patches are made to get certain things working like data. i like aosp dont get me wrong, but on my s3 and n2, touchwiz resides as my daily.

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[Q] What kind of ROM would you prefer for running on your SGS3?

Will it be MIUI, Cyanogenmod or something else? Share your desires and maybe devs will listen
Definately MIUI.
Using it on my EVO 3D atm, and I loooooove it!
Definitely Cognition Rom
Will be happy to see custom ROMs, but as long as they incorporate the awesome samsung features
I am only looking to put ROMs on this phone that are proven stable - and keep the features of the SGSIII intact. I don't want a phone that needs this workaround to get a feature to work.
I hope BootManager PRO works for this phone because I do like to keep several ROMs at hand at once. I really love the ICS blues and I have seen some amazing things evolve from a stock AOSP 4.0.X ROM over at the GNex forums. So we just need to wait and be amazed with the features that will be introduced to the world of Android via this phone's development section
Kernels on the other hand - this is where I am mostly concerned. We know pretty much NOTHING about the way a quad core kernel should be dealt with... These will be the main subject of my attention as we get into early development stages.
We shall see what some of our amazing developers who have proven they make kernels their bi***es can do with a new kernel. I am also interested in the kernel that Samsung has developed for it and how exactly this works in our favor here at XDA.
The main point is while most ROMs can be considered close... Kernels will be quite different and will be everyone's main focus - making our quad core beasts run with optimal battery life!
Checkrom
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I'd like to see a CM9 hybrid\tablet mode rom with per-app dpi capabilities that comes with a free high class escort.
I will use any "rooted" rom that is stable enough .... so far we don´t know is it possible to change bootloader.
Cyanogenmod of course
Probably..... stock rom, bloatware removed (will keep all the good stuff), custom kernel and custom themes
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CheckRom 100% the most popular and best ever ROM for the SGSII no other ROM comes close, i still use it and have used nothing else for a long time, SGSII ICS ROM's still nowhere near as good as CheckRom although i hear CheckRom ICS will be landing shortly for the SGSII although ill be selling my phone and getting the Galaxy S3
Slim ICS, as don't see much need for all the extra stuff apart from eye tracking to keep the screen on, S-Voice functionality goes in one ear and out the other, NFC not for me, Social tagging can leave me alone, shame the screen is sub standard to the SGS2.
Still loving my SGS 1 but am due an upgrade so may as well get this, hopefully the GPS is not as ****e as the SGS is. ended up buying an iPhone 3GS just to use with TomTom.
Now if you could give me TomTom on the SGS3 then you'd be talking.
Definitely checkrom with a new kitchen. And if we can get a siyah kernel then its over!!!!!!!!
cm9
miui
slim
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The better phone? Galaxy Nexus vs GS2 F1 GalaxyNexus

I am looking into buying a new phone outright at full price and was wondering what are everyone's opinions on this debate.
I was looking at the Nexus and the biggest advantage seems to be the larger HD screen, that and the fact that it has a stock ICS build on it, without Samsungs TouchWiz that I hate so much. But, after looking at the F1 GalaxyNexus rom, I am almost turned more towards the S2, despite the fact that it has a lower resolution screen.
Now, does ICS with F1 GalaxyNexus on the GS2 perform just as well if not a little better than that of ICS on the Nexus? Overall, the GS2 has an 8mp camera, also, from looking at review and whatnot, it seems to be slightly more responsive than the Nexus despite very similar if not the same specs.
Basically, all I want is to get a few opinions on which you guys would choose, GS2 with F1 GalaxyNexus or a stock Galaxy Nexus.
Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
i would say go with galaxy nexus if you cant be bothered with bugs and want timely updates(though s2 will get it once xplod completes his kernel)
go with gs2 if you want a powerful phone that can handle future apps and games without a problem
winner : GS2
bluefa1con said:
i would say go with galaxy nexus if you cant be bothered with bugs and want timely updates(though s2 will get it once xplod completes his kernel)
go with gs2 if you want a powerful phone that can handle future apps and games without a problem
winner : GS2
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I am switching to Android as I currently own a Samsung Focus with Windows Phone 7.5. Don't get me wrong, Windows Phone 7.5 is a great OS, but it is not customizable even in the slightest. I previously had an HD2 and LOVED putting different ROMs on it whenever I got bored with how the phone was. So, what I am saying is that I'm getting into Android simply for the ability to customize and tinker with anything that I want. So bugs will not really bother me. Thank you for your reply!
good to have you here
here are the remaining bugs that team hacksung is currently working to fix
the usual stuff is working http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod9:GT-I9100:Nightly:Known_issues
this is the cyanogen mod 9 thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
i would suggest that if u want a aosp rom stay on cm9 because bugs are fixed on it first than the other rom makers patch their builds
As its a question its in the wrong forum . Buy a Nokia .
jje

Sammy apps on cm9?

Hi. I wa going to start testing the cm nightly but I still think ol' sammy has done some good stuff in their android release so... yeah I would like to keep stuff like "put phone to ear when smsing " and other stuff.
Now to my q. Wasn't there a project somewhere trying to port all apps from different manufacturer's so they could be included in aosp roms? Though it had something to do with cyanogenmod but Im maybe wrong...
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Not sure about that but they will all rely on frameworks from each specific device so I don't see that project being feasible.
I won't be going to aosp just yet. The unused touchwiz overhead is not so much that I want to lose Samsung features
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A search would have told you no. It is not going to happen. CM only uses open source coded apps and non of the Samsung apps are. So if you want an AOSP based rom you will have to be willing to lose the Samsung apps and features.
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Check out this thread, its a sgs3 pack for the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669190
Tried it, works quite fine, however some strange rendering with touchwiz (think cause its targeted for the nexus, which has on screen navigation buttons)
I think you mean the openDESIGN project which aims to rewrite popular features from scratch to unify great features from different manufacturers in Cyanogenmod.
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I think its a bit of a waste to goto CM9 only to put back all the bloatware.. And there ate still issues with CM9 for the s3
I persoanlly have gone for one of the other roms, that is deodexed etc, so that it can be modified to an extent, whilst keeping a lot of its usefulness
It runs a little better than stock, seem to have slightly better battery life, and some custom mods that i want
I am itching to try cm9.. I did install paranoid rom, but i think its a little early yet for someone that needs some things to work right.. Cm7 on the nexus s was good.. When cm9 is that good it will get installed on my phone

Samsung TouchWiz - Still the best option?

Hello guys, I've recently upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus to a Galaxy S III, skipping the Nexus 4 for reasons I should explain only if asked.
I've been reading a lot of posts from AOSP advocates defending Samsung's TouchWiz, which makes for a rather worrying reading.
Now, I'm quite pleased with stock TW Jellybean, it's really smooth, fast, stable and not bloated at all. However, I wanted to try some AOSP roms since developers clearly had some time to work on them, and Samsung has certainly released JB source code to overcome some driver-related issues that there might have been. My question is: is TW still the best option or are there some AOSP roms that are stable, fast and working on every aspect? I'm talking about tethering, data connection, auto-brightness, battery life, bluetooth, camera... the stuff meant to work at its best on a stock TW rom.
Thanks for your help.
Well actually for me the AOSP ROMs are smoother and have all the features I could probably need....but
Samsung didn't released the sources as they told us and because of that (and a couple of proprietary reasons with Microsoft)
We can't make a fully functional camera(slight camcorder/flash stuff that have never affected me)
Can't have exfat sdcards
Can't have native FM radio
(Reason why we are not really officially supported by Cyanogenmod in their M builds)
But that's about it...I would really recommend you to try them...unless you need a Samsung specific feature like AllShare or AllShare control if you have a SmartTV...or want the extra features in the camera (BurstShot ShareShot) that I really never used..... and a lot of those features are now in CM10.1 like HDR and that stuff.
Those are my two 2 cents of the theme
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confessions of a flashaholic

Hi my name is Rob and I'm a flashaholic I have to admit with every new phone I get I probably flash every custom ROM made for it I'm not much for stock based roms but I got my lg g2 about a month ago and have flashed to try out just about every ROM built for it so far and I can't wait to see more kitkat ROMs
I pretty much like to flash the latest versions of android to just waiting on more kit kat ROMs
Over the past two days I've flashed 6 different ROMs but keep coming back to ose even though it's not that stable it has all the features I'm looking for
What about you
Figured I'd start a thread for fun let's hear your confessions
am afraid its a completely normal condition bought on by a very complicated organism designated lgg2 i'm afraid the prognosis is not good as the disease is very fast and progressive with episodes of high euphoria followed by intervals of extreme anxiousness- we can only hope that the research into this worrying condition will be continued
and that maybe in the distant future there may be a cure.
I myself find I've been able to avoid the flashaholism by knowing how I like my phone
I'm on pa currently awaiting cm to finish fixing the lte issues.
But I my self know I like a build of the latest cm, stripped down, debloated to it's bare minimum, with a good kernel, and a few tweaks
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I wanna flash g flex Rom but I'm afraid to **** **** up
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Hello, flashaholic here as well.
Love the g2, Flashed cm, PA rom, slimkat and others. Unfortunately I'm soft-bricked at the moment. Hoping to find a resolution.
However with that being said I love the flexibility and the customization.
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I am in the same boat. Always looking to see if my circle or ROMS have updated versions. At this point I cannot go back to stock I think I like the latest 4.4.2 performance. Stock just feels slow to me though it's been a while. Maybe ill check out the Flex..
Using PA Houstonn's 4.4.2, Beanstalk 4.4.2, PacMan 4.3 nightlies, and 4.4.2 SlimKat weeklies.
Good luck with your addiction.
Robshr said:
Hi my name is Rob and I'm a flashaholic I have to admit with every new phone I get I probably flash every custom ROM made for it I'm not much for stock based roms but I got my lg g2 about a month ago and have flashed to try out just about every ROM built for it so far and I can't wait to see more kitkat ROMs
I pretty much like to flash the latest versions of android to just waiting on more kit kat ROMs
What about you
Figured I'd start a thread for fun let's hear your confessions
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me too, this week i flash my first stock rom, and no good, aosp is way faster, if you think in test more there is carbom rom now!
I've always been a flashaholic. This is the first phone I've been completely satisfied with just root. I couldn't care less about flashing now, and its pretty sweet not having to set my accounts up and restore backups once a day.
Yes I like this subject since it reflects my internal war
I'm gonna copy a reply I wrote due days ago on similar topic to avoid writing the whole essay :
"My friend THIS is my biggest issue currently!
I'm gonna be THOROUGH so BEWARE 
I come from many phones history (see signature) where I always flashed PA or CM especially on touchwiz phones.
However on the G2, I liked stock at first and kept using it for around 2 months.
Then, having ORD decease (  see signature again) I kept my eye on PA and tried it on Christmas vacation. It caused me such a big confusion to the extent where I went between stock and PA like 5 times confused on which is BETTER and which I LIKE most.
Currently I returned 2 days ago to stock but still thinking about PA... 
Yes stock is nice with all features and stability, but I just HATE the nonconformity in design (even when using Xposed heavily to stabilize things and theme others).
-Also PA gave me such a smooth experience (much faster) with a lot more RAM and great simple looks. About RAM I greenified most system and installed apps that hogs RAM and still barely have about 500mb of free RAM while I have around 900mb on AOSP roms without any greenifying.
-Most importantly I had crazy battery life on PA while it's lower on stock even when nearly disabling every feature (except knock on of course).
-The thing that made me return to stock, believe it or not, was mainly camera (I know there's a mod for stock camera on AOSP but it's not that functional) and non-intrusive call notification which is a life saver when playing games. I tried "call heads", "call popout" from playstore but none worked nicely all the time.
Even when Omni gives that feature, I cannot install Halo (via Xhalo xposed module) on this ROM bcz it conflicts heavily with multiwindow feature in their rom which I cannot care less about it.
-I hate stock lockscreen and I love AOSP lockscreen.
-I hate AOSP camera and I like stock camera.
-I love AOSP calendar which options of colouring the events but hate its lack of features. I love stock calendar and its widget and snooze option while I hate its lack of colouring events feature.
-Although stock launcher is great it keeps redrawing (reloading) when quitting apps (heavy ones) which is annoying. AOSP laucher doesn't but lack features.
-Sound quality TILL NOW is better on stock.
-Immersive mode and the ability to always see notification bar even when in heavy games is awesome on AOSP.
-Quick memo is awesome for screenshots and editing on the run and sharing. I still couldn't find an app that does all that, that simple and quick on AOSP.
-Call voice recorder (G2 tweakbox) gives amazing sound and recording quality while call recorders on AOSP suck.
-NO FM radio on AOSP till now (maybe spirit fm will change that eventually).
Although most times I think that I don't need all those "useless" features on stock and that I need the quickness, smoothness of AOSP. I end up thinking that I did not pay 650$ (yes in my country) for a 32GB G2 to dump all those and run AOSP on it. If so, it would have been smarter ( and cheaper) if I kept my nexus 4 (or get a cheaper nexus 5 rather a G2). However I really like the feel and looks of AOSP. However  it's those small/silly/gimmick/nice cool features that stock ROM gives you that make you feel that you own a SMARTphone and not any simple phone. It's the fact that you know that they are THERE when you need them that makes you feel satisfied even when you really rarely use them.
As you can see, it's a REALLY very TOUGH decision which always makes me feel confused. One day I wanna use AOSP, the other stock.
I really hate that phone for that.  On samsung phones I really didn't give a thought about it.
Regards,"
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damn found another rom
Well found another ROM that looks interesting downloading and flashing now beanstalk 4.4.2
Update: right now I'm torn between beanstalk and slimkat have them both on my phone and I keep switching back and fourth but I think beanstalk is winning so many customizations think in gonna stick with it for awhile
Well found my new ROM beanstalk ROM has just about everything you'll want
App Compatibility?
All those on AOSP ROMs, What about apps. I have read that most of the apps specially games don't work on AOSP on lg g2. You have that problem?

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