when the update was released i couldn't wait and i returned to stock and updated. is there any ways i can root the phone on ICS? and flash the rooted version? I am on locked s-boot.
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Thanks for posting the answer. for everyone else, here it is.
disconnecktie said:
Here's a guide for those that need it
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=67914
Credit goes to Lt. Belspur for making it.
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Not yet.
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jareddlc said:
when the update was released i couldn't wait and i returned to stock and updated. is there any ways i can root the phone on ICS? and flash the rooted version? I am on locked s-boot.
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If you are unrooted and s-on right now, you may never be able to root.
Someone will have to spend time finding an exploit. How many devs are working on the TB now?
But if you have S-off still, then you could possibly install an alternate recovery, like clockwork, then install su from inside cwm and obtain root that way.
KidJoe said:
If you are unrooted and s-on right now, you may never be able to root.
Someone will have to spend time finding an exploit. How many devs are working on the TB now?
But if you have S-off still, then you could possibly install an alternate recovery, like clockwork, then install su from inside cwm and obtain root that way.
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He would need to be unlocked as well. If you were able to take the ota and remain unlocked and s on then yes you can download the flash able recovery and superuser and flash them both in recovery to root again.
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Anyone tried OTA ROOTKEEPER?
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could i reflash the stock ruu 2.3 and then root from there?
No, it won't let you downgrade your OS.
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He would need to be unlocked as well. If you were able to take the ota and remain unlocked and s on then yes you can download the flash able recovery and superuser and flash them both in recovery to root again.
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Thanks. For some reason when I typed that I was thinking all the S-OFF boot loaders out there were all "unlocked" which is why I didn't call that out, that is not the case is it?
I had applied the unlocked, s-off, "permanent" hboot back before revolutionary, so my memory is fuzzy on this stuff.
You can root, but you cannot S-OFF.
trter10 said:
You can root, but you cannot S-OFF.
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How?
DROID RAZR MAXX
I would like to know the answer to this too. I want to try to root stock ICS OTA, but I can't find a definitive solution.
joenforcer said:
I would like to know the answer to this too. I want to try to root stock ICS OTA, but I can't find a definitive solution.
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Since the bootloader is locked it isn't possible. We don't have an exploit for it and the htc dev method doesn't work either. Until an exploit is found any new bolt owners are sol. It is unlikely an exploit will be found since there aren't any devs interested in finding an exploit.
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I have access to the stock recovery, android system recovery <3e> can i flash a rooted tom here? it gives me these options:
reboot system
apply update from sdcard
wipe data/factory
wipe cache partition
could i rename a rooted rom and name it update.zip or something? or should i avoid doing this?
jareddlc said:
I have access to the stock recovery, android system recovery <3e> can i flash a rooted tom here?
could i rename a rooted rom and name it update.zip or something? or should i avoid doing this?
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Definitely avoid doing this. You will brick your phone.
There are a number of people exploring options at this point. If one of them is successful, a guide will be posted soon after.
arizonaomnia said:
Definitely avoid doing this. You will brick your phone.
There are a number of people exploring options at this point. If one of them is successful, a guide will be posted soon after.
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thanks!
Don't do this method people. I can confirm that we have a method to unlock root and s off stock ics. It isn't easy to do but it works and requires downgrading using an ruu.
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Here's a guide for those that need it
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=67914
Credit goes to Lt. Belspur for making it.
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Here's a guide for those that need it
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=67914
Credit goes to Lt. Belspur for making it.
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Can you copy/past? No feeling the whole sign up to read thing.
DROID RAZR MAXX
Topsnake said:
Can you copy/past? No feeling the whole sign up to read thing.
DROID RAZR MAXX
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It's not something that should really be pasted willy nilly across the web.
There are people there to help if you get stuck.
Translating back and forth from there to here isn't really any easier then you signing up.
If you wanna just wait, it will be incorporated into the All In One Tool fairly soon.
thanks im 90% done. Seems to work so far no issues yet. currently downgrading
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DISCLAIMER
I am not responsible for what you do with your phone. If you flash something that you shouldn't have, or do something you wish you didn't, and tell me that it is my fault, I will laugh. It isn't my fault if you are fired because your phone bricked, or if your girlfriend breaks up with you because you couldn't text back. If you don't know what to do, ASK!! That's the purpose of this thread.
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Useful Threads:
Back to S-On (From S-Off): Scotty1223's Thread
Guide to Unlock Bootloader from HTCDev: Nightwings' Thread
HTC Misctool: Drellisdee's Thread
Network Bootlooping Fix: Jayochs' Thread
Rezound All-In-One Toolkit: Hasoon2000's Thread
Rezound Rom/Mod/Tool/Guide/Recovery/Kernel/Utility List: Xjedi's Thread
S-Off FAQ: Luis86dr's Thread
S-Off Instructions List: Graymonkey44's Thread
S-Off ONLY! Flashing Splash Screens in Recovery!: Con247's Thread
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RUU Files:
FOR THE ZIP FILES, NAME TO PH98IMG.ZIP AND PUT ON SDCARD. THEN FLASH IN HBOOT.
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1.02.605.6 Gingerbread EXE RUU: Goo.im's RUU
1.02.605.6 Gingerbread ZIP RUU: Goo.im's RUU
2.01.605.11 Gingerbread EXE RUU: Goo.im's RUU
2.01.605.11 Gingerbread ZIP RUU: Goo.im's RUU
3.11.605.22 Ice Cream Sandwich ZIP RUU: My File, Goo.im's Hosting
3.13.605.7 Ice Cream Sandwich ZIP RUU: My File, Goo.im's Hosting
3.14.605.5 Ice Cream Sandwich ZIP RUU: My File, Goo.im's Hosting
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Other Useful Files:
ENG HBOOT for 2.11 Users: Con247's File, Jcase's HBOOT
JuopunutBear Patched 2.11 HBOOT: Unlimited.io's File
JuopunutBear Patched 2.21 HBOOT: Unlimited.io's File
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nice! now people keep this one from being locked!
Nice fresh thread. All in one place. MODs (preferably "pstevep") please make this a STICKY
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Though the answer is probably in the links, I'll still ask:
What good is temp root? Just curious. Wouldn't it go back to stock after a reboot?
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DirgeExtinction said:
Though the answer is probably in the links, I'll still ask:
What good is temp root? Just curious. Wouldn't it go back to stock after a reboot?
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With temp root you can freeze the Verizon bloatware. It will stay frozen after you reboot and lose root access, although the market may try to update it anyway. You can also restore Titanium backups while you have temporary root if you want to restore data to a particular set of apps from your prior phone.
DirgeExtinction said:
Though the answer is probably in the links, I'll still ask:
What good is temp root? Just curious. Wouldn't it go back to stock after a reboot?
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It allows you to not go crazy waiting for permanent root.. I used it to clean out crap, oc the stock kernel.. Mostly though it helps the end user not freak out as much..
Edit: stuck. Let's make sure we keep this one going.
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pstevep said:
It allows you to not go crazy waiting for permanent root.. I used it to clean out crap, oc the stock kernel.. Mostly though it helps the end user not freak out as much..
Edit: stuck. Let's make sure we keep this one going.
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Did you OC the Rezound or the 3VO?
con247 said:
Did you OC the Rezound or the 3VO?
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The 3D. I no have the rezound
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It allows you to not go crazy waiting for permanent root.. I used it to clean out crap, oc the stock kernel.. Mostly though it helps the end user not freak out as much..
Edit: stuck. Let's make sure we keep this one going.
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Thanks Buddy!!
any suggestions on which root to use? i just looked and they both seem to be the same but im just checking
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any suggestions on which root to use? i just looked and they both seem to be the same but im just checking
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To my knowledge, they are the same. I used Nils', and it worked for about 5 minutes. Sadly, not enough time to get the crap frozen.
dmeadows013 said:
To my knowledge, they are the same. I used Nils', and it worked for about 5 minutes. Sadly, not enough time to get the crap frozen.
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so then ill just wait till we get a perm root it hopefully wont be that long
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so then ill just wait till we get a perm root it hopefully wont be that long
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That's my plan. I'll probably keep it as is until after Christmas. Hopefully we'll all get a nice Christmas present.
i got temp root on my phone successfully but when i try to freeze bloat, the app says it worked but nothing actually got frozen
anyone experience this?
Use titanium backup pro.
Ill be watching this closely. If the rezound gets s-off ill probably sell my bionic and get the rezound as a christmas gift.
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Use titanium backup pro.
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just installed it, but at the start page, theres no tab for me to find my apps and freeze bloat
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manually mounted my SD card, anyone having a similar problem try this
koszor said:
just installed it, but at the start page, theres no tab for me to find my apps and freeze bloat
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manually mounted my SD card, anyone having a similar problem try this
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I had to do that too.
It seems USB debugging enabled causes that.
Ok I bricked my phone somehow,, and was able factory reset it. Somehow when I did the root, it lost the radio..
There are lots of threads/comments/etc. on the Temp Root being unstable (to put it kindly). Essentially, it works best if you reboot your phone then kill all tasks (including HTC Sense, etc.) Then, run the Temp Root and work quickly to Freeze apps and/or restore as for most people, Temp Root is lost within seconds or about a minute.
For now I am just biding my time hoping that S-Off comes so i can fully restore and de-bloat. I actually got a boot loop last time I tried to Temp Root and had to factory reset, so I don't trust it.
If I were to root my phone, what would be the best way to accomplish the following:
1) I can still update to ICS
2) I can restore it to"unrooted" condition
3) I can use it as a wifi hot spot
I am hesitant because this phone works GREAT and I hate to screw anything up on it. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Chris
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chrisrach3 said:
If I were to root my phone, what would be the best way to accomplish the following:
1) I can still update to ICS
2) I can restore it to"unrooted" condition
3) I can use it as a wifi hot spot
I am hesitant because this phone works GREAT and I hate to screw anything up on it. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Chris
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Easiest way , just flash amon ra recovery. Use developer menu to install su and stay stock Rom, but remove bloat if you wanted. Make a back up in amon ra prior to rooting and when ota comes flash android. Flash stock recovery in hboot and then your back to normal and can accept ota.
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wait for it.........
nope not yet......
wait for it.....
chrisrach3 said:
I hate to screw anything up on it.
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Very VERY difficult to brick this with only using an HTC dev unlock. Now if you were going to run the s-off exploit. More chances of bricking there but if you stay on gingerbread and don't run the ICS leak, you can always revert back to a factory state even if you don't create a backup in Amon RA.
I'll bite.
This shouldn't be in the dev section. This is for the devs to put out their work, ROMs, toolkits, MODS, etc.
This should have gone in either the general section or Q & A. Please remember this from now on.
I'll do it. Wrong thread, should be in Q&A.
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1. You can actually install some of the latest ICS software now, if you wanted to. I encourage you to read through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425091
It will have a review of everything you need for the Rezound: ROMs, recovery, mods, etc.
If you didn't want to install a custom ROM, then you can always stay stock by just flashing an RUU of either a Gingerbread or ICS ROM.
2. To unroot, read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472606
3. I use the WiFi Tether application, which is included with many, if not all custom ROMs. It works really well and is free. Here is the fix needed for it before you use it:
Before Use -Start the app, Permit Root, Set Profile - Samsung Galaxy Nexus (CDMA/LTE) and Check Routing Fix
Good luck! Have fun! And welcome to the Rezound Club!
chrisrach3 said:
If I were to root my phone, what would be the best way to accomplish the following:
1) I can still update to ICS
2) I can restore it to"unrooted" condition
3) I can use it as a wifi hot spot
I am hesitant because this phone works GREAT and I hate to screw anything up on it. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Chris
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You guys make it too complicated:
Short answer:
1.) No - Not if your referring to the OTA that is coming someday.. (you would have to unroot (see #2))
1b.) Yes - if you flash a custom recovery and a custom ROM
2.) Yes - reflash Stock RUU
2b.) Provided you don't flash the "leaked" OTA that upgrades your HBoot
3.) yes
4. Read the sticky's that's why they are there
Thanks so much, guys, and I'm sorry I posted this in the wrong thread. I'll probably mess with this some more over the weekend and let you know how it goes. (For a novice like me!)
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chrisrach3 said:
Thanks so much, guys, and I'm sorry I posted this in the wrong thread. I'll probably mess with this some more over the weekend and let you know how it goes. (For a novice like me!)
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Lol. This android stuff is like a crack addiction. We collectively just gave him his first hit of crack
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Can anyone help me. I was rooted using the method with Voodoo OTA RootKeeper, not really a full root if anyone knows, anyways i was able to have it rooted installed all my apps like Droid wall, Titanium Backup etc.. Now a couple of days ago a software update from Sprint came in and updated to this 1.22.651.3 710RD...
Am i correct to understand that I can not fully root this now? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
If you accepted the ota update, then you can still unlock through HTC dev and still flash roms. But with the update, cannot obtain s-off.
Yes updated to 1.22.651.3 710RD
I thought so I did do the OTA update and should have known better. I hope someone will come out with a way to have S-OFF. Thanks jdcasino
ricardod1 said:
I thought so I did do the OTA update and should have known better. I hope someone will come out with a way to have S-OFF. Thanks jdcasino
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Keep track of what's going on in the ['s-off] lazy panda' thread in original android development. if the lazy panda team figures out a way, it'll show up there.
Can anybody explain how to flash a Rom using my computer after HTC dev unlock and not being rooted?
Thanks in advance for any info!
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By the way I'm on the new OTA and I heard conflicting sides. Some say you can install Roms by flashing through your computer even though you're not rooted (but have done the HTC dev unlock), some say you can't. Also is there a way to root the EVO LTE with the OTA? I've tried the methods that say it'll work but it keeps saying permission denied. :'(
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NEVER ACCEPT AN OTA IF YOU ARE ROOTED,OR EVER PLAN ON ROOTING!
Thats rule #1 of being a rooted user.
End of story. I dont know how these threads keep popping up.
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By the way I'm on the new OTA and I heard conflicting sides. Some say you can install Roms by flashing through your computer even though you're not rooted (but have done the HTC dev unlock), some say you can't. Also is there a way to root the EVO LTE with the OTA? I've tried the methods that say it'll work but it keeps saying permission denied. :'(
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HTc DEV unlock = root for all practical purposes. You just slap on Twrp and flash a rooted ROM.
However, since you accepted the OTA you are now severly limited even with an unlocked bootloader. See the first part of my post.
I actually wasn't rooted or unlocked when i took the ota. I was happy with the speed of the new evo so i didn't think i would need to overclock it like every other device i owned thus no need to root. I took the ota cuz i had major issues with my wifi and that's a huge deal to me since 3g blows so bad in my area that my browser times out..... long story. Sorry. Now i just want to customize. So sorry if this is a repetitive question, but can i use adb shell to flash a rom? If so, does anybody have a step by step? I've always just used clockwork mod in the past so i am new to adb.
Recap:
have the OTA
not rooted
HTC DEV unlocked.
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If you are unlocked put on twrp for your custom recovery and flash a ROM that way
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Rxpert said:
If you are unlocked put on twrp for your custom recovery and flash a ROM that way
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Ok thanks, I'll try again. Couldn't get it to install before but I'll try again. The computer recognized my phone but wouldn't communicate with it after that. Drivers are updated, restarted computer no dice. I'll try again though.
Ok so I flashed twrp image through fast boot, said it worked but I don't see any effect. Tried to boot into recovery and nothing but the stock recovery. Any ideas?
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Try rebooting your phone.. I had the same thing happen but after a second full reboot than it would boot into twrp
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Try rebooting your phone.. I had the same thing happen but after a second full reboot than it would boot into twrp
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thanks, I rebooted and it worked! Awesome! actually I rebooted three times then it worked.
mykeyvee said:
thanks, I rebooted and it worked! Awesome! actually I rebooted three times then it worked.
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I got to this point. yesterday I know with my phone being s-on IN WHAT I BEEN READING you cant install the custom kernals. what roms can I install on the ota 1.22.651.3 with s-on and not have problems. I am new to the evo I been with motorola for the last 4 years with verizon. with the droid x the phones kernal was locked and yet to be hacked. so there was limited to so much. I'm ok with that. All I care for is bloatware removed. that I can theme and hopefully asop sith options of keeping some sense like maybe the camera app. can anyone point me to a rom that will make me happy I just bummed I cant use my liberty rom toolbox on this phone
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I got to this point. yesterday I know with my phone being s-on IN WHAT I BEEN READING you cant install the custom kernals. what roms can I install on the ota 1.22.651.3 with s-on and not have problems. I am new to the evo I been with motorola for the last 4 years with verizon. with the droid x the phones kernal was locked and yet to be hacked. so there was limited to so much. I'm ok with that. All I care for is bloatware removed. that I can theme and hopefully asop sith options of keeping some sense like maybe the camera app. can anyone point me to a rom that will make me happy I just bummed I cant use my liberty rom toolbox on this phone
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If you want asop check out the cm9 thread under 'original android development'. Kushdeck is putting together cm10 and as of recent I believe it's about 99% ready for a daily driver.
*this one*
I have S-on and flashed awesome sauce kernel. For over clocking purposes. You just have to flash using a computer, not custom recovery. However I am HTC dev unlocked on the ota.
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one click root problems
so i dowloaded the evo lte one click root software but the phone is not restarting. any ides?:crying:
adamtanner001 said:
so i dowloaded the evo lte one click root software but the phone is not restarting. any ides?:crying:
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What process did you follow? Exactly...
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What process did you follow? Exactly...
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Sounds like regawmod, you need to reboot manually as aoo as it says rebooting. It would probably be easier to unlock manually.a lot of people seem to have trouble. It will probably be updated soon but its been a problem for the last two updates.
hey guys, i havent been keeping up with the scene and whats going on with the dna. i just got a warranty replacement for my droid dna which was unlocked & rooted.
i did it long ago, and back with the original dna were rooted. trying to root my new warranty one now but a bit confused as i read thru threads. can someone steer me in the right direction? i read somewhere that the new ones cannot be unlocked and rooted?
Go to Original Development, and look at the Moonshine thread. It should be the first one. It is for achieving S-Off.
even works with windows now ^_^
Kleany said:
hey guys, i havent been keeping up with the scene and whats going on with the dna. i just got a warranty replacement for my droid dna which was unlocked & rooted.
i did it long ago, and back with the original dna were rooted. trying to root my new warranty one now but a bit confused as i read thru threads. can someone steer me in the right direction? i read somewhere that the new ones cannot be unlocked and rooted?
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I just got a warranty replacement as well. Not directly on topic but usually from what I understand you are supposed to get a used one. Not only was mine new but it was the employee edition. Wondering if they are running low or mine is just a good mistake.
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I just got a warranty replacement as well. Not directly on topic but usually from what I understand you are supposed to get a used one. Not only was mine new but it was the employee edition. Wondering if they are running low or mine is just a good mistake.
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Lucky I just got one used
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CLEVELANiMAL said:
Go to Original Development, and look at the Moonshine thread. It should be the first one. It is for achieving S-Off.
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I have also been out of the loop for a while and hadn't noticed all of the different developments that have come up,
So once you obtain S-Off, how can you obtain root/the ability to flash a custom ROM/recovery?
BigRed35m said:
I have also been out of the loop for a while and hadn't noticed all of the different developments that have come up,
So once you obtain S-Off, how can you obtain root/the ability to flash a custom ROM/recovery?
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Flash a recovery of your choice (TWRP/CWM) then root from the recovery. From there on you are free to flash the rom your heart most desires.
locoface said:
Flash a recovery of your choice (TWRP/CWM) then root from the recovery. From there on you are free to flash the rom your heart most desires.
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Here I go again, By root from recovery, what do you mean?
I just did the Moonshine S-OFF, then flashed TWRP no problem. Installed ViperDNA ROM, but have no root access? I feel like I did everything i would normally do for rooting but it doesn't seem to be working lol.
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Here I go again, By root from recovery, what do you mean?
I just did the Moonshine S-OFF, then flashed TWRP no problem. Installed ViperDNA ROM, but have no root access? I feel like I did everything i would normally do for rooting but it doesn't seem to be working lol.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318159
Should help you, not sure why moonshine nor TWRP rooted your phone. Have you tried another ROM?
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Here I go again, By root from recovery, what do you mean?
I just did the Moonshine S-OFF, then flashed TWRP no problem. Installed ViperDNA ROM, but have no root access? I feel like I did everything i would normally do for rooting but it doesn't seem to be working lol.
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Just install Superuser, or SuperSU from playstore. If that doesn't work you might need to flash a superuser file from recovery. It would be a .zip not apk.
What does it mean to the S-OFF and root?
If your s off it doesn't effect you the only way that can change is if you turn it back on by yourself. As for root it shouldn't be a problem I don't think the update will block it as most of us s off are running custom roms anyways
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S-OFF is a security flag to write to any partition on a device. This means system, recovery, hboot, etc. All these partitions are therefore capable of custom firmware. Its the most freedom one can have one flashing custom Roms and other firmware. Root is read and write access to the system partition within a custom or stock ROM. Without root one cannot access the system partition its protected. The benefits of root are far reaching as many apps require the access. Everyone should be rooted to improve functionality of the device but many don't S-OFF as it is a more evolved process to perform as oppose to rooting.
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S-OFF is a security flag to write to any partition on a device. This means system, recovery, hboot, etc. All these partitions are therefore capable of custom firmware. Its the most freedom one can have one flashing custom Roms and other firmware. Root is read and write access to the system partition within a custom or stock ROM. Without root one cannot access the system partition its protected. The benefits of root are far reaching as many apps require the access. Everyone should be rooted to improve functionality of the device but many don't S-OFF as it is a more evolved process to perform as oppose to rooting.
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He asked how the new update will affect people who have s-off and root. Not what they are.
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He asked how the new update will affect people who have s-off and root. Not what they are.
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Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
xlxcrossing said:
Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
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Thank you, at the least this can help someone doing a google search in the future. :good: More information is never a bad thing.
Just for my own benefit, how should I word it better?
xlxcrossing said:
Well it was vague and worded poorly so forgive the overabundance of info there Chet, eh?
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I'm not an expert or developer but any update coming from Verizon will likely have the potential to disable the most current root and S-OFF methods. So if you're already S-OFF, then you should be fine. If you have to get your phone replaced with a non-S-OFF model, you will likely not able to re-root and S-OFF that new device. At least until someone is able to find a new root / S-OFF method.
Just my two cents,
mickeyvnminnie said:
Just for my own benefit, how should I word it better?
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Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
xlxcrossing said:
Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
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I understood it the way you did too.
Breaking up the sentence and having the first part as the thread title and the second part as the post is confusing.
xlxcrossing said:
Its OK these guys understand you I'm obviously the problem I'll just shy away from replying to posts that I don't fully understand in the future, sorry.
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I thought you answered the question. I certaintly was curious what they were. I'm chicken and haven't rooted yet. I had no idea what s off was.
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
imaudi5000 said:
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
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I don't know what that is but rooting just involves flashing an app called "superuser" that manages different applications' root access. It doesn't cost anything and is incredibly easy to do without doing s-off.
xlxcrossing said:
rooting just involves flashing an app called "superuser" that manages different applications' root access. It doesn't cost anything and is incredibly easy to do without doing s-off.
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I'm pretty sure the root method for the DNA (pretty much all HTC phones) does require s-off and is more involved than just installing and running the superuser app.
Also I wouldn't update to 4.2 it sucks it has blinkfeed which I hate.
imaudi5000 said:
yea, thanks for the explanation.
is it possible to root the phone without doing the S-off thing? is it free? i saw somewhere that you had to pay like $40 for some of the software.
does Voodoo OTA rootkeeper work with the dna?
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Rooting the phone is NOT possible without S-OFF.
Running an app as superuser is NOT the same as having a device rooted. In the simplest terms, a rooted phone means you can access and modify system files. The most common use of rooting is running custom ROMs. There are several good ones for DNA in the development section.
You can currently S-OFF and root your phone with a tool called Moonshine, and it is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314771
The only rooting I've ever done has involved flashing super user and I didn't know s-off was required. The other day I rooted a phone without doing s-off so I stand corrected.
You don't need to be S off to root but you do need to at least have an unlocked bootloader.
dabomb697 said:
You don't need to be S off to root but you do need to at least have an unlocked bootloader.
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Root has no function without soff
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Dri94 said:
Root has no function without soff
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Hmmmm no. I don't have S off and I have running a custom Rom.