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Recently I have been having this problem. I go into system recovery and make a nandroid backup. then tell recovery to reboot phone. when the phone loads. I check the backup directory and there is no new backup. I do however get a rather large file in my lost.dir (I am thinking this is my backup?) I am using the system recovery that comes loaded with eclipse v0.6.1 and have it installed and set to recovery. also using the supplied charger from VZW.
So when you go into nandroid restore there is no backups there?
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right. I load BSR make a Nandroid backup, reboot the phone and it is not there. I do however have a large file in my lost.dir folder. This does not happen every time, but recently started happening, seems to happen more than not. I have been able to get a backup but it took 2 or 3 attemps for it to "stick"
Had a similar problem recently. I did a nandroid backup, but got some weird message about it not being able to backup sd-ext (which was my target). When I checked, there was no backup created, but in addition my entire Titanium Backup directory wound up in LOST.DIR. Dunno what happened, could be related to some other TB problems I'd had recently, but it was annoying as hell.
Deleted the contents of LOST.DIR, recreated Titanium Backup, and tried to do a nandroid backup again. Still got that weird "could not backup sd-ext" message, but it seemed to take this time. Might have been an error on the SD card?
I have ALWAYS gotten the line about not able to backup sd-ext no partition found.
I don't need to backup my external card anyway. It never gets deleted unless I specific format the card.
I have never had a problem when making my nandroid. I ALWAYS backup to external and it shows up in a folder named clockworkmod>backup>then date and time backup was created.
Are u trying to backup to internal or external? I have noticed that even tho sd flip is installed with eclipse that system recovery does not see this flip so if u backup to external and look for it in root explore it will be in the sd card folder(which is really ur external due to sd flip) sorry if that's confusing how I wrote it.
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Had a similar problem recently. I did a nandroid backup, but got some weird message about it not being able to backup sd-ext (which was my target). When I checked, there was no backup created, but in addition my entire Titanium Backup directory wound up in LOST.DIR. Dunno what happened, could be related to some other TB problems I'd had recently, but it was annoying as hell.
Deleted the contents of LOST.DIR, recreated Titanium Backup, and tried to do a nandroid backup again. Still got that weird "could not backup sd-ext" message, but it seemed to take this time. Might have been an error on the SD card?
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I believe the message you're getting is normal. I've seen that message with every nandroid backup that I've created. Not sure if it is related to the problem, maybe? Thank you for the reply.
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This is a very strange problem indeed.
I have created and restored backups consistently over the past few days due to all the activity here with roms but I haven't had the issue of it not "sticking" when making the backup.
I wonder if a reinstall of system recovery could help with this
Um could you possibly reflash your device? This might be a bug buried deep inside the rom, if you use ti backup it restores your data almost 100 percent.
Make sure to clean data, cache, and dalvik cache.
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First id like to point out some roms delete worthless directories. If it keeps being put into a lost.dir maybe it actually was a needed directory that was deleted. In which case you can just make the dir "clockworkmod>backup>" maybe that's all it needs. Im not 100% sure
I have read a few posts across forums saying to ignore that error of not being able to backup sd-ext ... although I've also never had an issue with using the backups I've created.
However I hit install system recovery and it does. I go into recovery mode and it does. The strange part is every rom I install takes out my recovery. On my DROIDX I never had this problem. And it makes having a backup a little worthless because if the phone boot loops I only have the option of rsdlite then reinstalling recovery and then using the backup. Yes that keeps it worth it but it loses the usefulness. Does anyone know how to make it permanent? Or at least survive a data wipe... my last rom was ATRIX which did a data wipe without asking in past roms I do a cache wipe and leave data on to make sure it is usable. Then I wipe data and reinstall recovery...
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I think that rom makers might be able to male it permanent by having isbn debugging already on and have the hijack charge only mode script system recovery uses already installed. I don't know if that is possible tho.
ashclepdia said:
I wonder if a reinstall of system recovery could help with this
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First thing I tried, but still had two out of three backups disappear.
m125 said:
Um could you possibly reflash your device? This might be a bug buried deep inside the rom, if you use ti backup it restores your data almost 100 percent.
Make sure to clean data, cache, and dalvik cache.
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Happen to me on both the eclipse v0.6 remix5 and the eclipse v0.6.1, all wiped every time, (not saying it has anything to do with the rom, love eclipse, would have hated this phone if not for him)
SubVirus said:
First id like to point out some roms delete worthless directories. If it keeps being put into a lost.dir maybe it actually was a needed directory that was deleted. In which case you can just make the dir "clockworkmod>backup>" maybe that's all it needs. Im not 100% sure...
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My directory is there. my previous nandroids are there, the new ones just don't always seem to be saved there? somehow getting corrupted?
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However I hit install system recovery and it does. I go into recovery mode and it does. The strange part is every rom I install takes out my recovery. On my DROIDX I never had this problem. And it makes having a backup a little worthless because if the phone boot loops I only have the option of rsdlite then reinstalling recovery and then using the backup. Yes that keeps it worth it but it loses the usefulness. Does anyone know how to make it permanent? Or at least survive a data wipe... my last rom was ATRIX which did a data wipe without asking in past roms I do a cache wipe and leave data on to make sure it is usable. Then I wipe data and reinstall recovery...
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After flashing a new rom, I have always had to go back into system recovery and set superuser privileges and "install" again.
Here's my sad story. New to Android. I have a US YP-G1, which had been rooted using SuperOneClick. I installed Steve's Kernel (US version) to get the Voodoo sound. I used Odin3 v1.85. That worked fine. I installed Voodoo control, rebooted; everything still works, sounds great.
Then I decide to explore Clockworkmod recovery. I booted into recovery, ran the the CWM backup option (which I guess is Nandroid backup). It backs up boot/cache/data/datadata/system to what I think is /sdcard. I then reboot out of CWM.
That's it. I'm stuck in a infinite boot loop where I see the swirling pattern and the glowing Samsung logo for a few seconds before it reboots and repeats it again.
I tried CWM USB "mount USB storage". PC can see the sdcard. But the only thing there is the CWM backup directory with all the backup contents and two other folders: .android_secure and external_sd, both of which are empty. That seems kind of unexpected since I thought I should see the internal SD card contents and expected more directories when mounted to PC. Also expected external_sd directory to show the contents of my 32GB SD card, but nothing shows when mounted like that. PC showed about 5.5GB free on the mount.
I also tried CWM recovery restore from the backup I made. This seemingly restored all files from the backup, but after reboot I'm still in the boot loop.
After searching on the web and finding some guides, I've also tried cleaning out the Dalvik cache, and the "wipe data/factory reset" CWM options. Still have the boot loop.
Does anyone have another suggestion for how to get out of the boot loop?
TIA.
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Here's my sad story. New to Android. I have a US YP-G1, which had been rooted using SuperOneClick. I installed Steve's Kernel (US version) to get the Voodoo sound. I used Odin3 v1.85. That worked fine. I installed Voodoo control, rebooted; everything still works, sounds great.
Then I decide to explore Clockworkmod recovery. I booted into recovery, ran the the CWM backup option (which I guess is Nandroid backup). It backs up boot/cache/data/datadata/system to what I think is /sdcard. I then reboot out of CWM.
That's it. I'm stuck in a infinite boot loop where I see the swirling pattern and the glowing Samsung logo for a few seconds before it reboots and repeats it again.
I tried CWM USB "mount USB storage". PC can see the sdcard. But the only thing there is the CWM backup directory with all the backup contents and two other folders: .android_secure and external_sd, both of which are empty. That seems kind of unexpected since I thought I should see the internal SD card contents and expected more directories when mounted to PC. Also expected external_sd directory to show the contents of my 32GB SD card, but nothing shows when mounted like that. PC showed about 5.5GB free on the mount.
I also tried CWM recovery restore from the backup I made. This seemingly restored all files from the backup, but after reboot I'm still in the boot loop.
After searching on the web and finding some guides, I've also tried cleaning out the Dalvik cache, and the "wipe data/factory reset" CWM options. Still have the boot loop.
Does anyone have another suggestion for how to get out of the boot loop?
TIA.
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I had a similar problem of getting stuck in a boot loop, but I thought it was because I had cleared the dalvik cache. Nandroid backups work flawlessly for me, btw. Anyway, I got my device fixed by reflashing with this stock ROM with ODIN: http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0dd...s2.3.5.tar.md5
After you flash it, it will still be boot loop so go into stock recovery (with 3 button combo) and choose "wipe data/factory reset" and then "wipe cache". Then I rebooted, and I was no longer in boot loop!
You can reflash SteveS kernel after if you want.
Hope this works for you!
Hi Klin,
Thanks for the help. I'm having trouble D/L the ROM from the link you provided. FileFactory says its a bad requst. Can you check that please?
I also tried the sequence you suggested but using the ROM I found from another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412875
I also did the steps you provided using the standard recovery and this got me out of the boot loop. Thanks a bunch for your help!!!
I'll now load SteveS kernel again and see if the backup I made is of any use. If not, then at least I know how to get back to a complete factory reset as you've shown.
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Hi Klin,
Thanks for the help. I'm having trouble D/L the ROM from the link you provided. FileFactory says its a bad requst. Can you check that please?
I also tried the sequence you suggested but using the ROM I found from another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412875
I also did the steps you provided using the standard recovery and this got me out of the boot loop. Thanks a bunch for your help!!!
I'll now load SteveS kernel again and see if the backup I made is of any use. If not, then at least I know how to get back to a complete factory reset as you've shown.
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No problem. Glad you got it working again.
And of course, no need to click the thanks button, I really don't care much about my thanks meter...
Thanks button clicked!
I tried restoring from the CWM Nandroid restore. After restore, it booted fine, but my apps are missing, including Google Market. Actually, the icons are there, but clicking on them tells me that the "application is not installed on the system". Also, other settings are missing as well like my email accounts and wifi connections/passwords. But app icon layout is correct, and clearly it remembered some of my settings. I got the impression this was supposed to do a "full restore".
I tried "reset permissions", but this didn't fix it. Any clues?
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Thanks button clicked!
I tried restoring from the CWM Nandroid restore. After restore, it booted fine, but my apps are missing, including Google Market. Actually, the icons are there, but clicking on them tells me that the "application is not installed on the system". Also, other settings are missing as well like my email accounts and wifi connections/passwords. But app icon layout is correct, and clearly it remembered some of my settings. I got the impression this was supposed to do a "full restore".
I tried "reset permissions", but this didn't fix it. Any clues?
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Maybe your nandroid backup wasn't created correctly? Because for me my nandroid backup restored all my settings and apps. Did you have any apps installed on the SD card instead of device? Maybe that might be the problem, but I'm not sure.
I've had exactly the same experience, but with UK version. I had Steves rom and kernel flashed, all looking nice so did a nandroid backup with cwm. No bootloops but everything was gone. Icons were on screen but applications not installed. In the end I did factory reset and reflashed Steves rom. All good but am avoiding cwm!
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Thanks button clicked!
I tried restoring from the CWM Nandroid restore. After restore, it booted fine, but my apps are missing, including Google Market. Actually, the icons are there, but clicking on them tells me that the "application is not installed on the system". Also, other settings are missing as well like my email accounts and wifi connections/passwords. But app icon layout is correct, and clearly it remembered some of my settings. I got the impression this was supposed to do a "full restore".
I tried "reset permissions", but this didn't fix it. Any clues?
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My guess: Steve's CWM implementation is broken and is not backing up/restoring /dbdata (Looking at his recovery.fstab, this SHOULD be working, but maybe his fstab is broken.)
I've seen the same sort of behavior when trying to get CWM working on the 5.0 - I fixed it on mine by fixing /dbdata backup/restore (which is treated as /datadata by CWM)
Can you post a list of files in your backup including sizes?
Hi Entropy,
Thanks for your help. Here is the list of files from my backup:
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01/12/2012 12:00 AM 48,375,360 .android_secure.img
01/11/2012 11:57 PM 7,864,320 boot.img
01/12/2012 12:00 AM 6,633,792 cache.img
01/11/2012 11:59 PM 2,112 data.img
01/11/2012 11:59 PM 13,742,784 datadata.img
01/12/2012 12:00 AM 222 nandroid.md5
01/11/2012 11:59 PM 294,997,824 system.img
Perhaps dbdata is missing as you suspect. But there is a datadata.
CWM treats dbdata as datadata (just a different naming convention) - so it is getting backed up.
Maybe it didn't get restored properly? dunno...
Wait... data.img is only 2112 bytes? Something is WRONG there... That should be the largest image after /system
I just checked my nandroid backup files and data.img was 386.80MB...
Try making another backup and see if it has the same problem...maybe it didn't create correctly.
I've just got done restoring the stock kernel and ROM and loading up all my apps manually again. It took a while to do this. So at the moment I don't have SteveS kernel loaded and hence no CWM recovery. I think I'll wait a while to see how things go before trying the kernel again, at least for the CWM recovery part of it. And I also loaded Titanium backup to help me restore from this kind of problem in the future.
Since keithabi also reported something similar, I guess this isn't an isolated issue. It sounded like he too just made a backup and ran into problems; in other words he wasn't trying to restore from a backup, just create the backup. Creating a backup shouldn't kill your machine.
To confirm, yes I just made a backup and everything was gone....
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To confirm, yes I just made a backup and everything was gone....
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That is WEIRD. Just making a backup shouldn't do something like that...
I agree. I've done loads of backups with SGS II and HTC Desire, never seen anything like that happen before. I'm sure it'll get sorted. Other than that I'm finding Steves rom great with voodoo. Many thanks.....
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sooo...... please help me out here. i have the same problem as OP. except i have stressed my device trying to find a stock rom for galaxy player 4.0 us version so much, that is has now fully bricked. it wont power on. i am not an entire noob to flashing custom roms. however i dont understand alot of it either. some one who is kind please point me in the right direction at least.
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Hello XDA
(Please tell me if this is the wrong forum for help)
So, I was plodding along happily with CM7 on my Optimus One, then I decided to Nandroid backup and flash a CM9 alpha ROM here.
Once I wiped user data through amon_ra recovery, I flashed it and it worked fine (except I was on old baseband, so GSM didn't work).
When I decided to Nandroid back to what I had previously however, BAD THINGS HAPPENED.
All the user apps didn't show up in the app draw. All the widgets had a problem. The CM7 theme had vanished. Even the google apps had vanished.
I tried to reflash the Market but it didn't work and was still missing.
I was able to Nandroid back to the ICS alpha rom and it worked fine.
I then tried to restore the stock LG firmware through the official updater app. It refused to boot, getting stuck at the ANDROID logo.
I then had to manually flash Clockworkmod recovery through emergency mode. I then proceeded to Nandroid to my CM7 save. Which booted, but still had the same problems. (I flashed amon_ra from there so I could use my other backups)
All the normal functions work properly eg. Camera, USB, ADB, GSM, 3G, Data, web browsing.
I also noted that everything is sitting normally in the data partition when looking through ADB, but not through File Manager, is that normal?
Help, please?
Thanks x 1000000 in advance
Titanium Backup?
Can't get it installed.
Well, it is installed, it's just unusable.
I can't get the Market so I can't try and install it.
And attempting to install it's APK with File Manager results in "Application not installed"
Okay, I seem to have figured it out, while I had this problem, my dalvik-cache was inaccessible as a folder. I deleted it in ADB and recreated it.
It was because when I wiped user data to flash ICS, it also wiped the SD-EXT partition, which my dlavik-cache was on, that was not backed up.
I've encountered weird problem: The phone doesn't boot (got stuck on bootanimation) after nandroid recovery from CWM. I've tried recoverying it over fresh install of same ROM or over formated partitions, but neither of it works. I'm using CWM v5.0.2.0 and trying to recover hephappys PRE4.
Is this caused by some incompatibility of CWM and ICS?
No, cwm 5.0.2.0 is working with ICS, using it currently (haven't tried using backup/restore, but it shouldn't cause any problems imo).
So, what exactly are you doing? Trying to restore an earlier cm9 backup? Try wiping all, including system and boot, before restoring.
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Yes, I've made backup before messing with my ROM and it just fails to recover. I've already tried to wipe everything.
Is there any tool for viewing backup files on Windows? I guess that the file is somehow broken.
Is there any way how to get calls and sms from this raw data?
Here is boot logcat: https://gist.github.com/2603614
Jirrick said:
I've encountered weird problem: The phone doesn't boot (got stuck on bootanimation) after nandroid recovery from CWM. I've tried recoverying it over fresh install of same ROM or over formated partitions, but neither of it works. I'm using CWM v5.0.2.0 and trying to recover hephappys PRE4.
Is this caused by some incompatibility of CWM and ICS?
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have the same issue with cwm...
recommand u to use amonra...gwtting best with it
When I was on cm9 and restored my cm7 backup=same thing(yes, I wiped everything)
Well, that backup image is somehow corrupted as it cant be correctly deployed. At least I've managed to extract SMS, the rest is not so important for me.
CWM is pretty much useless when it creates backups which can't be used for recovery...
I don't think that there is a specific problem with CWM and ICS- I have been making backups and recovering quite often ICS builds (including hephappy's pre4) in the last weeks, no problems so far (knock on wood ).
Do you have other/older backups that you can try to recover and see if you get stuck at bootloop?
What about reinstalling the build from scratch- just to see that everything boots? You can later try either restoring your original backup (the one causing you problems), or using TiB or similar applications that can extract applications+data from nand backups.
Could the backup file got corrupted somehow? I don't remember CWM having some inherent checking of md5 before restoring backups (I could be mistaken, as I have never had a bad nandbackup with the P500 phone so never noticed anything weird). For example, I used to have an HTC MT4G with 4ext touch recovery which would always check md5sum and let the user know if backup was corrupted, and I did got a corrupted backup file once.
Back to topic- If anything else fails and you can't recover, maybe try to copy the backup to a different sdcard? Perhaps it's a shot in the dark but worth trying, just in case the problem is in sdcard?
Older backups are only CM7 and they are working flawlessly. I don't know what happened, but it wasn't byte-level error as MD5 check passed on that image. It's more likely the recovery "forgot"/wasn't able to recover some files in /data partition.
Later I've tried to install some fresh ICS, did some changes (configuration + apps), backuped, wiped partitions, then restored and everything worked , so it's definitely not a general CWM problem. It's probably a bad luck, when you really need the backup, it just corrupt itself to annoy you...
As I wrote, I've managed to retrive my SMS and that's enough for me. I don't trust that image so I will install fresh apps via Appbrain and do the new setting by myself (I wanted to make some chcnges to phone configuration, this is just the right moment) .
I have never had much luck with the CWM recovery system. It's really buggy and sometimes only restores select partitions. Or if it couldn't mount the drive at the time of backing up, sometimes it just refuses to tell you or tells you but you have to start the backup over..
Like said above, I would try Amonra. It's a far better recovery and it has almost no bugs to speak of
Cheers mate.
I have an XT912 that I'm currently troubleshooting. The issue I have come to realize is that nothing can be saved or deleted on the phone.
I've tried a regular factory reset, which just boots the phone in recovery mode. I wiped it in recovery mode, but when the phone boots on, all the data is still there.
My first thought was, "Alright, maybe some RSD Lite magic will fix my issue." Nope. First, http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ has been down for a while.
Second, I did actually get the firmware file at https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_nizg6yUZ0NRXZwMUZ6U3BuS0E/edit?pli=1
The process went like any other sbf normally. Of course, when the phone booted it booted straight to recovery mode.
I wiped again through the menu, and booted only to find nothing had been deleted.
Next thing I tried was Droid Razr Utility (http://www.droidforums.net/threads/droid-razr-utility-1-8.216562/) (I have a more updated version for JB) and wiped through that.
Still ended up in recovery mode. Selected wipe again, still had all the data.
My next thought was, "If i can't wipe thought normal means, I'll install CWM or TWRP and install CM 11 or something so I have a workable phone."
After copying the root files, I opened the file explorer to install the APKs only to find none. It said i had 79 files in my downloads folder.
I mounted the phone again, copied the files to the download folder, and went to the file explorer again after unmounting.
Still said i had 79 files. I searched through the downloads folder and found nothing. I decided I'd create a folder and copy the files there. Mounted, created a folder, copied the files, nothing.
I decided to download the files on the phone and install them directly. Switching on WiFi didn't work since it immediately switched back off.
I rebooted and WiFi actually worked. After downloading the root APK, I just got a parsing error.
I only get those when an APK is corrupt/incomplete, or when the APK won't work with the phone model.
I rebooted to humor myself, and when the phone booted on, the files I downloaded were gone. I'm completely baffled.
I haven't seen anyone post a detailed report about this issue. If you've experienced this or have a fix, please post below.
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I have an XT912 that I'm currently troubleshooting. The issue I have come to realize is that nothing can be saved or deleted on the phone.
I've tried a regular factory reset, which just boots the phone in recovery mode. I wiped it in recovery mode, but when the phone boots on, all the data is still there.
My first thought was, "Alright, maybe some RSD Lite magic will fix my issue." Nope. First, http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ has been down for a while.
Second, I did actually get the firmware file at https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_nizg6yUZ0NRXZwMUZ6U3BuS0E/edit?pli=1
The process went like any other sbf normally. Of course, when the phone booted it booted straight to recovery mode.
I wiped again through the menu, and booted only to find nothing had been deleted.
Next thing I tried was Droid Razr Utility (http://www.droidforums.net/threads/droid-razr-utility-1-8.216562/) (I have a more updated version for JB) and wiped through that.
Still ended up in recovery mode. Selected wipe again, still had all the data.
My next thought was, "If i can't wipe thought normal means, I'll install CWM or TWRP and install CM 11 or something so I have a workable phone."
After copying the root files, I opened the file explorer to install the APKs only to find none. It said i had 79 files in my downloads folder.
I mounted the phone again, copied the files to the download folder, and went to the file explorer again after unmounting.
Still said i had 79 files. I searched through the downloads folder and found nothing. I decided I'd create a folder and copy the files there. Mounted, created a folder, copied the files, nothing.
I decided to download the files on the phone and install them directly. Switching on WiFi didn't work since it immediately switched back off.
I rebooted and WiFi actually worked. After downloading the root APK, I just got a parsing error.
I only get those when an APK is corrupt/incomplete, or when the APK won't work with the phone model.
I rebooted to humor myself, and when the phone booted on, the files I downloaded were gone. I'm completely baffled.
I haven't seen anyone post a detailed report about this issue. If you've experienced this or have a fix, please post below.
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guessing device has a flash memory failure, unlikely that it can be fixed
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I've only seen a dozen or so posts like this over the past few years, and never seen someone post that they fixed it.
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Still somethings that can be tried.
Seems you are trying to copy files to the download folder on the internal SD card
Do you have a external SD card? if so copy files to that
how are you trying to root? try saferoot or Root Master app