[Q]How can you have push email with the Samsung stock / native email app? Not pull at certain time intervals.
Important:
1.In my test push email was much more battery & data friendly that pull (at every 30min for exmaple). If there was only a few emails per day coming in, there was very little awake time from the Email app.
2.I know the Android native Gmail app does push very well, but I don't like it as much, and it doesn't support Yahoo. (get it google doesn't support yahoo )
3. The Samsung native email app has features that I like: it's dark (black), it has a widget, it integrates very well with the rest of the i9300. So don't send me to use other email apps please. We will discuss this separately.
When I had the S2 i9100 it used to be quite simple (although in some isolated cases the push option was missing). For email accounts such as gmail, yahoo, hotmail there wasn't any problem to set it up to push email instead of pull.
Back at that time, Samsung was working with a service they called Social Hub . They integrated every thing inside it: instant messaging (gtalk, yahoo, msn), tweeter, facebook, etc. It was working pretty well.
A member on XDA considers Samsung is spying on us with this service - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007571
The idea with push was Samsung servers were constantly checking if you had email and only wake up your phone when you really received new email.
Let's say I don't care about Samsung knowing my password right now and I want push email back.
Now with the S3 i9300 and JB, they dropped that project. I saw no trace of Social Hub on the S3.
The bad thins is there is no more push option, only poll at predefined intervals.
There are users who advice on using Exchange to push gmail - thanks to Google because they offer this function for free. I tested it, it works, but it is not battery and data friendly. It keeps the phone awake 5min/8h only for the gmail account, when Samsung Email on S2 used to wake it up for less than a minute per 8h. And it uses much more date, about 10 times as much. I saw other complaints on this forum about Android-Exchange large data consumption.
Other disadvantages are that lack of support for Yahoo (I understand you need to pay to have Exchange support for Yahoo).
This is the Exchange app vs. the Email app:
Right now I'm using the Email app for my yahoo and gmail account with the best settings I found for battery and data vs utility:
-pull email every 1h;
-size to retrieve emails: only headers (back on the S2, pull brought me also some content and the data consumption was not higher)
[Q]How can you have push email with the Samsung stock / native email app? Not pull at certain time intervals.
I found an answer on another topic:
" The native email client does not support IMAP idle. It only offers interval polling. If you're on Exchange, push does work but only with the active sync protocol."
I hope there is a way around it because I don't like Exchange on Android.
I found an interesting post which shows that IMAP IDLE, even if it provides Push email without third party servers, is battery hungry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27219447&postcount=34.
In the past I have benn trying out AquaMail for my gmail account. Event though it is a very complex and well thought app, I had it to use Imap Idle Push and the battery and data consumption is still high compared to Seven/social hub.
It still consumes about 500KB per night even if there is no email coming into my gmail inbox. In a similar situation, social hub wouldn't have had consumed anything.
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Hi, I have 3 exchange accounts set up on my SGS2, two hotmail-based and one for my university. I did have all 3 accounts using push but notice an absolutely massive drain on my battery, phone is kept awake even when idle, the same is true when any two accounts are on push and one is manual.
However when just one account is set up to sync on push and the others on manual then battery use is negligible.
Anyone experiencing similar results or figured out a workaround?
The email app is based on Seven mail, used to use the beta version on my HTC Desire before and had the same 3 accounts on push and worked perfectly, I've tried to install that app but it recognises the existing app and asks to replace it.. which I don't really want to do.
... whole day I wonder what happen with this phone and how come he stays awake the whole day. And this post reminded me how i added an additional account to the mail client just last night .... Any suggestions (except delete account)
PS: Ok, odd thing. Just removed digital clock from widgets, charged the battery fully and the phone isn't awake for 2 hours now ...
Don't quite understand, are you using the Seven app? Or adding the Accounts in through the integrated email client?
Also Hotmail is not an 'Exchange' account, it's just POP3 (or premium pop, whatever Samsung call it...)
I assume you mean the stock samsung email app?
I was having issues with this keeping the phone awake and I didn't even use the bloody thing, it is now in the freezer and out won't be coming out anytime soon.
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I find the vanilla email app a good bit better.
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viva.fidel said:
Hi, I have 3 exchange accounts set up on my SGS2, two hotmail-based and one for my university. I did have all 3 accounts using push but notice an absolutely massive drain on my battery, phone is kept awake even when idle, the same is true when any two accounts are on push and one is manual.
However when just one account is set up to sync on push and the others on manual then battery use is negligible.
Anyone experiencing similar results or figured out a workaround?
The email app is based on Seven mail, used to use the beta version on my HTC Desire before and had the same 3 accounts on push and worked perfectly, I've tried to install that app but it recognises the existing app and asks to replace it.. which I don't really want to do.
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i only have one exchange account, and the Email app is at the top of the battery use list... keep awake @ 1hr when i left the phone idle overnight
Micksta said:
Don't quite understand, are you using the Seven app? Or adding the Accounts in through the integrated email client?
Also Hotmail is not an 'Exchange' account, it's just POP3 (or premium pop, whatever Samsung call it...)
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Since i bought this magnificent phone I am having problems with getting this work with my iCloud account. I can confirm that it is working through thunderbird, but now via stock Mail app. Any suggestions or just Apple is blocking Android?
You should look at the logcat, Java is usually quite verbose when it comes to exceptions. Might give you at least some idea where to look.
I've noticed that my iCloud email is running a lot slower on android over the past week. If I delete an email on the computer then open it p on the phone and sync I takes a while for it to actually update the email list. It still works and I get my mail and can send it just takes a lot longer than it used to.
iCloud email accounts (.mac and. .me) use dynamic mail stops. If you can pull the server settings from Mail.app you'll have better performance, not perfect, but generally speaking the account won't work with non-Apple apps.
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Coming from iPhone, using gmail sync exchange (setting up gmail as exchange server), used with 2 gmail accounts, everything got pushed properly, instantly, etc... contacts, emails, calendar and bookmarks.
Moved to Samsung Galaxy S3 on T-mobile USA.
Tried the gmail app... this worked, but the interface was terrible. Forces you to scroll left and right to read email - I can't understand that. Why not "FIT TO SCREEN WIDTH" option? Panning around an email just seems silly to me - sorry. All email is fit to width on the iphone and so I'm spoiled to that.
Tried the "email" app that came stock on the GS3... Not much different from the gmail app. with the exception I can see "ALL INBOXES" which is also the way I want it.
Then I found K-9 Mail, which has a format to screen size (fit to width) YAY... formats the emails correctly... YAY!!! But has some kind of a network issue... EATS data ALL DAY LONG. And with eating the data, the battery just gets drained like a bath tub.
No matter how the phone is connected to data, beit wifi or mobile network - there is constant data traffic. I checked using network manager, and finally after sorting by active data connection, and trial and error I figured out it was K9. If I go to settings, background sync has a few options, but the only 1 of the 4 that STOPS the massive data eating is when I set it to NEVER which obviously STOPS emails from coming in.
Surely this can't be right... what am I doing wrong?
Is there an email app that will get GMAIL PUSH EMAIL from 2 accounts without eating data and battery? and also format the incoming emails to FIT TO SCREEN WIDTH...?????????????
Does anyone have any news on this subject?
Push email was available on the native S2 email client.
I vote for native apps first.
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I have one exchange account set to sync calendar and email. The Exchange process itself only uses around 7% of battery according to the battery graph. The 'awake' line under the graph has some solid areas accompanied by a corresponding steep drop on the battery curve.
Using GSam battery monitor to show which app had the most Time held awake shows Exchange over 5hrs.
I tried changing from Push email to every 10 minutes but it hasn't helped.
I also tried deleting the account, clearing cache and data from the exchange app and recreating the account.
Has anyone solved this issue?
I have not solved it but have the same problem. Galaxy S3. I need Exchange Sync, it finally got me to stop missing BlackBerry
Charging twice a day still stinks. Do other Android phones have this constant awake issue when running Exchange? Is the issue specific to ICS?
Hi, never experienced this on my S3, but did on my S1. A few things to try:
- Push can actually be more battery friendly
- Disable Calendar sync, if that cures it, try deleting all recurring appointments, starting with the oldest ones. Bad recurring appointments are known to send the sync process in a loop.
- Wrong login credentials keep the phone awake, even when sync is set to never!
I use Enhanced Email, in which security can be overided ( no server forcing a lock on the phone). I have read that security policies from the ecchange server can cause problems too.
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Yep same problem here too, anyone?
I'll try turning off calendar sync. I turned off push but that made no difference, as you suspected. I use touchdown for email, task, and calendar and also use device exchange sync for calendar (the latter so Calendar Snooze will work with appointments). I can probably get by syncing calendar manually but not using is not an option since calendar is more important than calls and email for me.
Will report back with findings.
techphets said:
I'll try turning off calendar sync. I turned off push but that made no difference, as you suspected. I use touchdown for email, task, and calendar and also use device exchange sync for calendar (the latter so Calendar Snooze will work with appointments). I can probably get by syncing calendar manually but not using is not an option since calendar is more important than calls and email for me.
Will report back with findings.
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Hi techphets
Just wondering if you managed to fix this issue??
Ive also spent hours and hours trolling around trying to find a fix for this, but with no success any thoughts?? I have the galaxy s2 (not rooted, ics 4.0.3) so its definitely not just your S3, its more widespread. ICS? or the email app??
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i never use any stock apps especially when it connects to the networks and syncs so i just uninstall it to make sure that it doesn't consume battery life
Thanks. However when I log in to outlook online on my phone, the emails that appear are months old so it doesn't sync online. The only way to see new emails it to use the app (so I've found so far anyway)
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Hey all,
I got the Tmobile version of the S6 Edge yesterday and the battery life seemed pretty decent as long as wifi was off - at least until I added my email accounts to my phone.
I've noticed that the Email Sync is taking up a ton of battery on my phone - according to the battery usage meter Email Sync is using 19% with the next highest being the screen at 3%! Its only been on for 5 hours and its already at 42%.
I did add a lot of accounts - 7 total all either exchange or microsoft live/outlook accounts and all setup to download a months worth of emails and push new emails as they arrive. However, with every other phone I've used this hasn't been an issue (two most recent were a Nexus 5 and an LG G3).
Is anyone else having abnormally high battery drain from Email Sync using the native email client? And if so, how did you go about fixing it?
Deusx Machina said:
Hey all,
I got the Tmobile version of the S6 Edge yesterday and the battery life seemed pretty decent as long as wifi was off - at least until I added my email accounts to my phone.
I've noticed that the Email Sync is taking up a ton of battery on my phone - according to the battery usage meter Email Sync is using 19% with the next highest being the screen at 3%! Its only been on for 5 hours and its already at 42%.
I did add a lot of accounts - 7 total all either exchange or microsoft live/outlook accounts and all setup to download a months worth of emails and push new emails as they arrive. However, with every other phone I've used this hasn't been an issue (two most recent were a Nexus 5 and an LG G3).
Is anyone else having abnormally high battery drain from Email Sync using the native email client? And if so, how did you go about fixing it?
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I am having the exact same issue with only 3 accounts- looking for solutions...
This is the main issue I'm having. It was draining 5-10% an hour while not in use due to email sync. I have one email set up for that. I have it set to manual sync now and I'm only losing 1% an hour while not in use. I have the Volte option and Wifi options turned on (but not wifi itself) with no draining issues like other people.
I had the same drain. So I downloaded another email app and been using that instead.
Same issue here, abandoned it for another app, Waiting for a solution.
Did the same honestly - using mailwise right now but it isn't as full-featured as the native Samsung one. What is everyone else using?
Does the high email battery usuage cause Google Service battery drain for anyone else? I browse Reddit for about 30-50 mins each night before going to bed and it usually drops 10-15% but when I wake up, Screen is never on the top of battery usage. It's usually Google Services followed by email, and other stuff. VoLTE and Wifi scanning/calling is turned off for me and I leave location off until I need it so does anyone have any idea?
aaronc_98 said:
I am having the exact same issue with only 3 accounts- looking for solutions...
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I have 3 accounts as well and email is draining my battery
Are you people talking bout the Gmail app also or just Email app? If you guys add those accounts to Gmail app does it do the same thing?
I am using the Gmail app for Gmail and the Samsung app for MSN and Exchange ActiveSync for work I have since removed the Samsung accounts and installed CloudMagic and I'm going to see how that works
I too have The same problem since yesterday. And I only use one account.. so a solution would be welcome.
Edit: I use the email app not the Gmail.
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Last night I moved my exchange active sync account and my msn account to cloud magic, left my gmail account in the gmail app and deleted the accounts from the samsung mail app and after a little over 3 hours I still have 95% battery life. Very happy with these results so far.
Deusx Machina said:
Hey all,
I got the Tmobile version of the S6 Edge yesterday and the battery life seemed pretty decent as long as wifi was off - at least until I added my email accounts to my phone.
I've noticed that the Email Sync is taking up a ton of battery on my phone - according to the battery usage meter Email Sync is using 19% with the next highest being the screen at 3%! Its only been on for 5 hours and its already at 42%.
I did add a lot of accounts - 7 total all either exchange or microsoft live/outlook accounts and all setup to download a months worth of emails and push new emails as they arrive. However, with every other phone I've used this hasn't been an issue (two most recent were a Nexus 5 and an LG G3).
Is anyone else having abnormally high battery drain from Email Sync using the native email client? And if so, how did you go about fixing it?
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Had the same problem I am on day 3 with my edge. Think I have found a solution, I have the stock app running with 4 mail accounts 3 gmail and one outlook. I have used the stock app because i like the interface. I also use Gmail with the same 4 mail accounts as when the push to my Moto 360 i can reply only using the Gmail app. I have also 1 gmail running in the inbox app.
The samsung app was using by far the most system resources and battery.
This is what i tried, mail pushes ok, and the email not showing in the battery use list.
Go into the email app then more top right. Go to settings, click on an account, scroll to sync schedule and press, set sync schedule to auto (when received) in top field. Turn off peak schedule green switch to disable. Back out and repeat with other accounts mail will now push to phone. if you want to sync a month or so back do that first until you have mail on device then follow the above steps. Seems to work fine. Without the above steps the mail app would eventually calm down after caching all previous mail. Gmail etc caches in the cloud whereas the samsung app needs to retrieve it.
me too
Just wanted to add that I also have ridiculous battery drain from emailsync. I have only one exchange email attached to the email app and it has kept my cell radio on almost constantly today. I just removed my exchange account and I'll report back if this changes my battery life. Turning mail to push instead of syncing did not appear to fix anything.
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Hi
Same problem here with emailsync killing my battery.
Tried the solution suggested, disabled Sync schedule and made sure
Sync was set to push (auto when recieved) and the results are the same.
Emailsync is using 60% battery consumption.
Need a resolution quickly, otherwise will take the phone back.
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Same here. Ditched the stock email app and installed Type Mail(formerly Blue Mail) so will see how it goes.
Although the stock email app is ok, Type Mail is by far the best I've used. And I've tried them all!!
Hi all as far back as I can remember the email app always used a lot more battery than Gmail . For the last 6 years I have used Google to collect and emulate the other accounts.
On my galaxy s2 it meant the battery difference was between 6 hours use on email and over 12 hours using Gmail I am guessing it's not changed over the years.
set email sync to 2 hours
i have the same problem.
battery drains in 6-8 hours max and device becomes hot.
looking at the battery usage, the email sync service is keeping the device awake all the type.
it means it's never sleeping.
i'll try two things:
1- disable email sync push or auto service and set it scheduled (every 2 hours or any other parameter)
that seems working for the last 30 minutes. device is cool now and i only lost 1% even using whatsapp. will try it for longer period.
2- if this doesn't work, i'll move exchange active sync to the Gmail app. there is an app on apkmirror that allows you to do so or use a third party email service like cloud magic.
fingers crossed...
switched to Type Mail, so far so good right now.
update
switched to Typemail and battery is at 84% at 11:30am, huge difference. (ONE DRAWBACK - cant sync Exchange Calendar, when i do add my business email account, Emailsync still goes nuts even with emails disabled and calendar ON sync.)
Emailsync was killing it, at the end of most days, phone would be dead at 4pm. Im a heavy user of phone, sms, and email, 3 core features that shouldnt be draining the battery that much.
So until an update is out, STAY THE AWAY FROM NATIVE EMAIL APP. Its a battery killer, and you will not get your utilisation out of your Edge.
Anyone else find any other solutions to this issue with Emailsync???
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