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Alright so Now that is appears as though the EVO 3D will never attain full Root lets see how big of a deal this really is.
I haven't made up my mind yet...however I am seriously considering it.
The phone in itself is still bad ass and i am pretty sure you can still gain Root and do some minor modifications.
However, the fact that you can not fully customize and flash roms and kernels that fit you the best is a big turn off.
HTC just turned into Apple with the elitist take it or leave it attitude in my opinion.
Not me its the future for most phones i'm not going to stay with an evo forever because of it. Besides eventually someone will figure a way around it if not with the 3d with something else. Look at the ps3 uncrackable supposedly and the xbox 360, psp and so on and so on where there is a will there is a way.
It saddens me that I won't be able to mod my device that I paid for, but I'll still get it, it think. Maybe I'll wait for it to release then get a 4g, instead. We'll see.
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I got a Nexus S 4G off contract just because a Nexus is always worth owning. I was able to attain my upgrade again and was ready to pull the trigger on the 3D and alternate until I found a preference, if ever. Now? Not a chance. Will stick to the Nexus and use my upgrade on either the next Nexus or a next gen WP 7.1 in the fall.
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I'm getting it day one.
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Not me its the future for most phones i'm not going to stay with an evo forever because of it. Besides eventually someone will figure a what around it if not with the 3d with something else. Look at the ps3 uncrackable supposedly and the xbox 360, psp and so on and so on where there is a will there is a way.
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Be careful on what you say. That can give false hope and I hate to see people buy this phone expecting that someone will get on it and find themselves like other phone users.....sitting with the exact same phone they bought a year later.
Samsung Galaxy S 2, here I come! Unfortunately, I have a feeling I'll be waiting a while.
I will shed a tear for the EVO 3D on release day, mainly because I wanted the hardware improvements. But I'm not going to put myself in the same boat as the Droid 2 and Droid X which still have no root!
I still plan on getting it day 1 as well, I'm not really sure why so many people think Samsung is the magical catalyst in the equation to stop buying HTC products.
The Galaxy S looked great from afar, and that's pretty much all that it did. What makes anyone think Samsung suddenly got their act together and will be releasing timely, seamless updates for GSII? I'm confused...not to mention all the countless other flaws it has.
I'd much rather own a locked HTC phone than deal with the garbage that came from all angles of the current Galaxy S line.
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I'm still going to get it. I like sprints service and samsung has to prove that they can keep phones up to date. Plus, sprint does not get a whole lot of new phones like the other companies.
My game plan had changed, however. Before this news, I was going to use my upgrade and then trade in my evo. Now, I'll just buy the phone retail, save my evo and upgrade discount. That way, should something better come during quarter four, I have discount options, plus to the ability to sell the 3d and my evo.
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I'm still going to get it. I like sprints service and samsung has to prove that they can keep phones up to date. Plus, sprint does not get a whole lot of new phones like the other companies.
My game plan had changed, however. Before this news, I was going to use my upgrade and then trade in my evo. Now, I'll just buy the phone retail, save my evo and upgrade discount. That way, should something better come during quarter four, I have discount options, plus to the ability to sell the 3d and my evo.
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If you have a discount available but won't use it now for the 3d but use the discount down the line, why not save the money now and pay full retail on something else down the line. What if down the line you decide to keep your 3d and not buy something else.
If you are willing to pay full price for a device, might as well keep your money now and in your pocket instead of Sprints. Don't see your angle on this one.
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The Galaxy S looked great from afar, and that's pretty much all that it did. What makes anyone think Samsung suddenly got their act together and will be releasing timely, seamless updates for GSII? I'm confused...not to mention all the countless other flaws it has.
I'd much rather own a locked HTC phone than deal with the garbage that came from all angles of the current Galaxy S line.
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my thoughts exactly.
I don't know yet. I never really used the Root feature on my Hero, just for the occasional new look every few months. Not too sure that no root will be that big a deal for me. As long as its fast(er than my hero) and works for texting like it should, I'll survive.
Wouldnt matter to me i find all the customize apps on the market already matching my needs. I will probaby worry if i cant upgrade to the next firmware of 2012
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If...cracking it seems a nogo....it'll bring a sweet craigslist price..
Still buying it launch day....wife is always on my ass about flashing new roms anyway...... I will miss custom kernels though
At least I can still play with her Evo
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Still buying it launch day....wife is always on my ass about flashing new roms anyway...... I will miss custom kernels though
At least I can still play with her Evo
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+1 on being harassed by the Mrs. for spending too much time on my phone---especially when I am in recovery/rebooting when she is trying to get a hold of me.
Coming from a Hero on launch day, I am due for some new hardware. Since I am a Sprint Premier customer, I can certainly live with it for a year (assuming it makes it past the 30 day return period). I still plan to get one on launch day and shortly thereafter, be able to install SU and my rooted apps.
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Samsung Galaxy S 2, here I come! Unfortunately, I have a feeling I'll be waiting a while.
I will shed a tear for the EVO 3D on release day, mainly because I wanted the hardware improvements. But I'm not going to put myself in the same boat as the Droid 2 and Droid X which still have no root!
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My cousin got a droid 2 and he's rooted via Z4root. There's just not any ROMs or Kernels/Themes you can flash over it.
as long as it has a partial root so I can use wifi tether like the original unrevoked I'll be a happy camper, though I would love a myn rom on my evo 3d if thats not possible I still wanna use my rooted apps!
The price will deter me more than the fact that it's locked up. If it releases at $300 then I'll spend another $100 and get the Asus transformer and keep my Hero for another year.
Honestly... I was a little worried about 3D support with custom ROMs anyway. I'm sure HTC is doing a lot of stuff to get Android and Sense to work with 3D.
I've had some concerns with security on some of the custom ROMs lately anyways, so I will have no problem going back to stock sense. I actually really like sense... it was just too darn slow on the Hero. I'm sure it will be nice and fast on the Evo 3D. I'm still planning on getting it. But, like I said, if they announce a $300 price for it I'll consider cancelling my pre-order and spending another $100 to get a tablet. Smartphones aren't worth $300 when you can get laptops/tablets for $300-400 nowadays.
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HTC has been really struggling lately, and now with OnLive costing them $40 million, things are definitely not looking good.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think we're going to start seeing the effects of all of this loss soon? I'm worried about new devices releasing, as well as updates being given to existing devices, if the company keeps falling like this.
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HTC has been really struggling lately, and now with OnLive costing them $40 million, things are definitely not looking good.
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think we're going to start seeing the effects of all of this loss soon? I'm worried about new devices releasing, as well as updates being given to existing devices, if the company keeps falling like this.
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Ouch, definitely doesn't sound good. Not sure if they will be able to stay in it or not...depending on how this whole Apple/Samsung thing turns out, they may be able to use it to their advantage, but it sounds like they've got some pretty big issues to deal with. I think I'm already pretty much resigned to getting whatever Samsung's offering is when I'm eligible for my next upgrade. I had a tough time choosing this time around anyway, so I figure I'll give them a shot (never owned a Samsung)...but it sounds like that may be the "only" option if things don't improve for HTC.
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Good, sometimes drastic things need to happen before a company makes drastic changes necessary.
I guess it is what it is. I am happy with the EVO LTE. I'm going with a Nexus next time around since they will hopefully be beyond the stupid pentile screens by then. Maybe we will get lucky and HTC will get a Nexus at some point in the future.
If rim and Nokia are still in business I think htc will be OK for now.. they do need to start making better decisions and listening to their customers ..they are still turning almost a billion dollar profit this quarter ..still pretty good
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how can they be making a profit and collapsing at the same time
do you even read and think before you decide to spread such garbage?
They're hurting, but I have high hopes that they come back even stronger. They need to make a few adjustments to the way they work, and it can make all the difference. For one, be as dev friendly as they used to be. Second, less device models as they made it seem like they were going to do. They need to cut as much variants out, and focus on keeping close to the same phone amongst different carriers. That's my opinion.
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They're hurting, but I have high hopes that they come back even stronger. They need to make a few adjustments to the way they work, and it can make all the difference. For one, be as dev friendly as they used to be. Second, less device models as they made it seem like they were going to do. They need to cut as much variants out, and focus on keeping close to the same phone amongst different carriers. That's my opinion.
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i agree with your last point
Haha I love how people read a comment in an article and then talk like it's their comment.
You guys don't think a company can collapse when turning a profit? Really? How about when your profits rapidly decline quarterly, and the government is helping bail you out? Look at the trends, and you'll see why they're collapsing.
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I think HTC needs to start making phones out of plastic cause obviously no one cares what they're made off cause no one's buying them.
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how can they be making a profit and collapsing at the same time
do you even read and think before you decide to spread such garbage?
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It's funny because you probably didn't even read the article.
They're making a profit, but they're still a shadow of their former glory. Their market share has plummeted and it isn't showing any signs of improving. Just because they're still pulling in money doesn't mean that everything is sunshine and rainbows for them.
HTC is still a profitable company, but with such relentless competition from Samsung and Apple, their numbers are dropping fast enough that banks are beginning to get very nervous. This could quite literally be the beginning of the end.
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Do you even read and think before you post such garbage?
This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
HP just took a multibillion dollar write down because of the EDS acquisition, but this was an excellent strategic investment. HTC is doing the same thing. They might be down, but they're not out.
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This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
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I don't think that HTC is going to go out of business. I'm hoping that they can come up with something that can stabilize them a bit. In my opinion they need to make like Samsung and give their phones more of an identity.
They need try harder to keep their phones in order instead of releasing 20 different devices. They've taken a step in the right direction with the One series, but the naming is way too confusing for most people to be able to tell what the phone is all about. HTC needs a way to make a budget, mid-end, and high-end phone that isn't different on every carrier and that represents itself well.
With the One series, you have the One X, the One XL, the One S, the One V, and I'm sure that the upcoming/rumored One "XL+" (or whatever we call it) will join that lineup as well. The names just have no way of differentiating themselves without looking into the specs. If you walked up to someone and said, "Do you want the One V or the One S?" They're going to say, "Huh? What do the letters mean?"
But with all of the growth that Samsung has seen, I'm not sure that HTC will ever be able to catch up.
That settles it...I am buying a spare Rezound
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This indeed sucks but at this present time all i can ask for is that they release Jelly Bean before they close the doors..My wife sold her iPhone and bought the Galaxy S3 and i've been playing with it here and there and its an awesome phone...I was amazed that a stupid kitty cat live wallpaper runs flawlessly with out slowing down the scrolling on the phone..I think I may have seen the light and sipped on some of the Kool-aid..Im kinda envious
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Haha. I've been getting a lot of hate around here cause I crossed over to the side. Im glad someone with more credibility is seeing the light. I still get the "you don't know sh*it" when i mention 2gb of ram makes a difference.
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Haha. I've been getting a lot of hate around here cause I crossed over to the side. Im glad someone with more credibility is seeing the light. I still get the "you don't know sh*it" when i mention 2gb of ram makes a difference.
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Doesn't seem to make a differance while running cm10.. the issue is In sense
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Doesn't seem to make a differance while running cm10.. the issue is In sense
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I agree. But Sense is why most brought the phone, right?
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No... Many people on this site will likely say they bought it for the hardware, not software. This is a development forum. We know Sense can be ripped away (or at least shrink and improved).
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So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
I agree totally. With HTC's recent earnings miss, I don't see why they can't see their current "support model" isn't working. If it weren't for the dev's here, I'd be even more pissed. HTC needs to embrace the developers as opposed to working against them by not actively releasing updates for a product that they sold me on. I've stuck with HTC devices since my old HTC Mogul but I'm starting to feel the same way. HTC needs to get their **** together or they'll lose a community of people that have helped keep them relevant over the past 5-7 years.
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So been honestly thinking if JB takes til next yr which is pretty much when the new HTC will come out to get to the EVO this will be my last HTC device, I really love HTC and have been with them since the touch pro. Howeva the build quality has seemed to go up immensely. And yet the software quality has dropped. I can honestly say that I have had progressively more n more trouble out of the phones from the OG EVO up. Not to mention how we have to wait so long to get a update. Especially when that update was known and out on a few devices b4 our were released, then they can't tell us if or when we will get it. I mean really even phones released after ours have been verified to be getting it and yet we wait. I'm sry but I have bought my phones off contract and if I'm spending $850 plus for a device I don't want it to be obsolete the day I get it. Some people will argue that ics is not obsolete. But look how long its been out. And key lime pie is Otw. So we are almost 2 os's behind. And they get to select who gets upgrades and when? Didn't I pay them? If HTC don't pick it up I'm afraid my next phone will be the galaxy s4 anyone else feel this way or not chime in I wanna hear thoughts on this situation!
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
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Everyone says sprint sprint sprint but is it not the manufacturer's that say what device they wanna tweak the os for? Besides if it was sprint that was delaying it why would the s3 already be confirmed to be getting the jelly bean update? HTC says they don't know if they will be updating it. And Idt sprint would hurt their own pockets like that. 2 have 2 flagship phones on the latest os faster and far less problems they would/should be jizzin in their pants for that chance.
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I'm honestly not sure this has much to do with HTC. They intend on getting other One X variants JB at some time this month, which could be a positive sign for the EVO LTE, but it all lies in Sprint's hands, ultimately. That's who you should be pointing your finger at.
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Sprint can't work on getting updates out if HTC hasn't given them anything to work with. I point my finger at both of them. A phone that's behind in updates on a network that's behind can destroy what little patience people have left.
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I agree totally. With HTC's recent earnings miss, I don't see why they can't see their current "support model" isn't working. If it weren't for the dev's here, I'd be even more pissed. HTC needs to embrace the developers as opposed to working against them by not actively releasing updates for a product that they sold me on. I've stuck with HTC devices since my old HTC Mogul but I'm starting to feel the same way. HTC needs to get their **** together or they'll lose a community of people that have helped keep them relevant over the past 5-7 years.
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U hit the nail on the head! Totally agree 1000%
I payed more for my phone than I did my laptop or tablet. Yet they get updates damn near everyday. And if android is open source I should be ableto get the updates on anyphone that runs Android as long as the specs are up to par for free correct. Just like linux. So y do they get to choose what we get so they can make money. I mean we do it here. So y can't they. Lol sry just rantin clearin my chest.
Me and the wife love HTC but we both agreed that even though we dislike the build quality of Samsung it may be our next phone just because things get updated and fixed a lot more frequently. Besides our phones stay deep inside great looking cases so how much does build quality mean to us anyway.
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Sprint can't work on getting updates out if HTC hasn't given them anything to work with. I point my finger at both of them. A phone that's behind in updates on a network that's behind can destroy what little patience people have left.
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The update comes from HTC pending a request from Sprint. If Sprint doesn't request it, it will never come. Once Sprint receives it, they add all of their bloat and send it for testing. After that, you already know what happens.
Either way, I am hoping for an HTC Nexus device based on all these multi-OEM Nexus rumors.
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The update comes from HTC pending a request from Sprint. If Sprint doesn't request it, it will never come. Once Sprint receives it, they add all of their bloat and send it for testing. After that, you already know what happens.
Either way, I am hoping for an HTC Nexus device based on all these multi-OEM Nexus rumors.
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Point taken. Bottom line is that "we" the customer, gets screwed. I would find it hard to believe that HTC and Sprint both "don't know" what people want. HTC makes great phones and the developers help us love them. Developers maximize the potential of our devices but if they're not getting what they need, it's a moot point and I'll probably leave Sprint and HTC altogether when I'm due for an upgrade. I'm sure I'm not the only one either. Patience only goes so far.
Not to mention still can't have caller id tones since last update n they can't fix that. Bs and I don't wanna switch roms cuz something always never works in roms.
have to admit if it wasn't for custom roms and the hard work of devs here I would have tossed this phone by now.
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Having been an android owner for the last three years (and an evo owner for the last 2), I've gotten used to the slower updates. It's always been explained away by saying that first HTC has to produce an update, then Sprint has to tweak the update, before we ever get the OTA. I know it's not a solution to the problem presented in the OP, but has anyone noticed that we have fantastic devs for this phone? The roms, kernels, and tweaks are not only being produced on a daily basis, but are frequently updated and provided with fantastic support. I can live with slow manufacture and provider updates as long we continue to have great devs.
Yes, but in a different way. I will not be purchasing another HTC product ever due to their slow update roll outs as well as their locking of the boot loaders. While they finally relented and let people unlock their bootloaders through their website, their previous and current stance on the issue is unacceptable to me.
You got robbed if you paid $850 for the phone, lol.
Everyone always thinks the grass is greener someplace else. If you're not happy with sprint then go somewhere else.
But just know that the verizon Gnex, a Google phone, didn't get the JB update for 2 months after it was released on GSM phones.
Also I don't think KLP has been released yet.
Naters
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KLP isn't out yet. I never said i was leaving sprint just may leave HTC. for me sprint is the best deal besides pre-paid. if pre-paid got the hottest phones as well. I think the big 3 would be outta biz or would have to lower prices to compete. lol
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Everyone always thinks the grass is greener someplace else. If you're not happy with sprint then go somewhere else.
But just know that the verizon Gnex, a Google phone, didn't get the JB update for 2 months after it was released on GSM phones.
Also I don't think KLP has been released yet.
Naters
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You got robbed if you paid $850 for the phone, lol.
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not really that is what they run off contract. bout $800 plus tax
this phone will probably be the last HTC phone I purchase... unless they change their policy on source and start to release it to dev's faster... it seems like there is a lot more activity for the S3....
If I get another HTC device it will be a nexus. If they dont make a nexus device im not getting it. I love htc build quality, it feels like a real device in my hand, but the lack of updates really turns me off.
Sorry to hear you paid $850 for this mech.. got mine free without upgrading because the 3ds were on backorder when mine broke... and i got that free also...
I've been doing a lot of research on both devices over the past few days since I'm out of work and have nothing better to do than apply for jobs and figure out which phone I'm going to get when it comes out. Super lame but there isn't much else to do when your back is shot to hell.
Anyway... It looks to me as if the GS4's mission is to drag other customers to Samsung. For example: steal HTC lovers and convince them to make the switch over to Samsung. I see this because GS4 is pushing FEATURES and things that, for example, the HTC One does not have. But that doesn't make the GS4 'better' than the HTC One. At least... not to me.
The HUGE difference is that the HTC One does NOT have the MicroSD card slot. I don't agree with that but yet it might be a good idea to finally move to cloud storage and get used to it? Either way, I came to the realization that the non-existent MicroSD card slot should not be a deal-breaker of any kind. Especially since you can grab a 32gb MSD for only $20 if you look in the right direction. So, if you think about it, there IS plenty of storage but it won't all be physically present. Kind of cool if you think about it.
Another HUGE difference is that the HTC One will not have an option for battery replacement, extended batteries, or anything alike. I believe that was to boost sales towards accessories and have everyone else (carriers and company's) jump on the same bandwagon. That's because there are now battery packs you can buy to carry around and charge your phone if you really need to. I think that's pretty awesome but I like the idea of carrying an actual backup battery with me instead of charging on the run.
BUT! That sexy casing sure as hell makes up for both of those "HUGE" or "don't really care" differences.
As for screen differences... who can tell which is better on such a small screen? Sure, if you know it just happens to have better specs than you can call it "better" or even "the best" but if the human eye can't even detect the difference than it really doesn't matter.
BUT! You better believe your eyes when you see the battery consumption suddenly plummet.
So why desire those better screen specs, that you won't even notice, and get less battery life? My guess is that you wouldn't...
So why desire all of those features that you will use, much like the rare 3D on few phones, but probably for about a month until you realize they are just a waste of space and a marketing scheme? My guess is that you wouldn't...
So why switch over to the Galaxy S4 of which you will be happy with for a while before you realize your regret on not purchasing the HTC One which is also released earlier so you could've been satisfied even earlier and not made ANY mistakes? My guess is that you wouldn't...
I've come to the conclusion that the S4 vs. One is all about personal preference and the battle becomes a draw. Specs are pretty much the same depending on where you live, what carrier you have, and your own personal wish-list. Samsung did one hell of a job marketing a phone that hasn't had an official release date yet though! It had me wondering which phone I really want. The octacore sounds great but think about how new that technology is, how it make work, if it really is worth it, and that it is just a new idea to processing in *hopes* that it'll provide a little bit more power and better memory management.
I could go on and on about all of the differences, marketing schemes, etc... But I want to see what everyone else is saying (typing) since I don't have THAT MUCH time to spend reading every little detail on the two phones.
What do you guys/gals think?
Which phone do you plan on purchasing if at all?
And why?
I'm aiming towards the HTC One.
Could've sworn I put this in the question section... Can someone move this please? Thanks.
I never needed to replace my battery on the Evo 3D, and I'm still using the same 16 GB card that I had in it. I doubt I'd miss either omission.
Neither, Nexus 5
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Neither, Nexus 5
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Which, unfortunately and historically, will be completely obsolete just a month or two after it comes.
http://anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review
The most comprehensive review/analysis of the HTC One to date. If you want to know EVERYTHING about the One just have a read. Highest award ever given to a smartphone by them. That pretty much certifies it as LEGIT.
I say wait... None of the next gen are really pummeling the current gen flagships.
If I had to choose this year, the SGS 4 under contract or the Dev edition HTC One, off contract.
The one. Sense 5 is great and I'm really liking the dual speakers. I love Samsung Tvs but nor their phones. I could care less about a removable battery or the microsd card slot.
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The one. Sense 5 is great and I'm really liking the dual speakers. I love Samsung Tvs but nor their phones. I could care less about a removable battery or the microsd card slot.
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Same here, having stuck with HTC since the Hero, I'm really leaning towards the One.
I'm still undecided. I really hate AMOLED screens.. They have some sort of tint compared to LCD. And i hate that Samsung phones feel cheap and light.
The build of the HTC One is awesome but I alway have cases on my phone. I'm super clumsy.. I drop my phone about twice a week... No joke. I've never had to get a new battery for an HTC phone. SD card slot shouldn't be a problem if I can get 32gb. I've never taken out the memory card out my EVOLTE.
As far as HTC.. I feel they are more of a hassle to root than Samsung. So that is making me want to switch to Samsung. But then again, I've used Sense for 5yrs now and like it.. It's gonna suck to switch.
The things that are most important to me are battery life, screen quality and performance. I'm sure as far as performance there won't be any "real life" differences.
I'm on Sprint and one of those will be my next phone. The possibility of updated Sprint Nexus is also on my mind.. Although farfetched.
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I think I am gonna go with s4. I freakin love sense and the build quality of my HTC phones bit I have to say the HTC tends to have more connectivity issues as far as what I have seen.
I can tell u my EVO LTE is pretty inconsistent when it comes to signal and connecting. I don't think it is entirely the network either because even at the house on WiFi my connection seems to hang quite often at the same time I have problems I pick up my tablet which runs off the same WiFi and it runs just fine.
Another reason is Samsung galaxy has such a big following if I try the s4 and don't like it it will be much easier to find me a person willing to swap their HTC for my galaxy rather than the other way around. I doubt anyone will trade my HTC one for a galaxy if I have the same frustrating issues with it.
The freakin black HTC one is one of the sexiest, nice looking phones I have seen in a while though so who knows. My family plan will be out of contract on all 3 lines at the end of the year so I'm not renewing this quarter I will have plenty of time to make a decision. I don't know that I am going to be staying with sprint.
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Very interesting posts guys/gals. I appreciate all of the responses. I've been with HTC for quite a while as well. My first was the HTC Hero which, in my opinion, was one of the worst smartphones ever made. Then I went with the EVO 3D which treated me very well up until needing a replacement. I went through 8 of those phones and each replacement was worse than the previous. My batteries started getting shot, my phone would turn off randomly and never come back on, and the digitizer constantly went out. I would've been on my 9th until I decided to grab the LTE. I've only had one issue with this phone which was the service cutting out and never coming back on. I then got it replaced for free so no complaints.
The build of the LTE I think is very poor. Out of the box there was already cosmetic damage and I refuse to use cases since I never drop my phone's anymore. *knock on forum* I'm just having a really hard time deciding what I want to do. I'll probably end up with the HTC One but it'd be nice to switch it up too.
But making the switch either leaves me satisfied for two years or in deep regret for two years.
This is a tough one. The only reason I wanted the S3 was for 1 more gig of RAM. But with both of the new phones sporting quad-core and 2gb of RAM then I almost might as well stick with HTC.
Ugh. Decisions... Decisions...
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which ever 1 that have micro SD....im not losing my 64gb:laugh:
I heard that the battery life on the S4 is not good, anybody else hear this?
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It's kind of early to judge battery life since the test phones are all pre- production. Many times software will fix things.
I've been really happy with the lte but may wait and see what the next nexus service is and then decide if I'll stay with sprint.
The htc one has received better results in the rf testing than the lte did. So that is encouraging. Should mean better connections for calls and data.
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I will be going with the One.
Personally, after being on Sense, I feel like TouchWiz (Samsung's Sense) is designed for children who still need to ask their parents permission for playdates. Totally ugly and way too colorful.
Also, after using Sense 5, I don't ever want to use another OS. It is incredibly enjoyable.
Now think about if we had all the One X and Evo devs working together - I can't imagine anyone would need more options than that.
I am getting a One before May because I am so impressed with Sense on my EVO and I love HTC.
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I heard that the battery life on the S4 is not good, anybody else hear this?
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Yeah. Saw that a bit ago. The One only beat it in one category though. However, the differences are that big either. But both of the phones don't have the best battery life.
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One... Htc phone make and quality looks superb. Not to mention they change hardware and look so much that it really is a new phone. Unless you want the s3 with a faster processor...(hint s4)
Don't get me wrong. The software features are cool and all but sense widgets give you a reason to have multiple home screens.
Just my 2 cents....
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One... Htc phone make and quality looks superb. Not to mention they change hardware and look so much that it really is a new phone. Unless you want the s3 with a faster processor...(hint s4)
Don't get me wrong. The software features are cool and all but sense widgets give you a reason to have multiple home screens.
Just my 2 cents....
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That's pretty much it with the S4. Idk why they didn't change anything with the body. I know there were talks of an S4 mini but... Eh. Maybe the Note 3 is going to be more impressive? I just don't get it. All of the EVO's were different. Even the newest One =P I wish they would've stuck with the EVO name though. Assuming the EVO is pretty much done. The HTC One would've made a great EVO. But whatever. Now when people ask what kind of phone I have I'll say "that One phone." Soft humor.
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I wish they would've stuck with the EVO name though. Assuming the EVO is pretty much done. The HTC One would've made a great EVO. But whatever. Now when people ask what kind of phone I have I'll say "that One phone." Soft humor.
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That's the best part.
"what phone do you have?"
THERE IS ONLY "ONE" WORTH IT!
HAHAA!!! WOOOOOO! :thumbup:
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Just looked for this device on Verizons website and it said "Available Online Only" meaning two things to me. One, they are selling through their stock. Two, something is coming around the corner, soon. Any speculation? I don't see a One in our future. Maybe another DNA variant?
There have been rumors of a "DNA 2," that's about all anyone knows.
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Well I see myself with the DNA for a long while I love it!
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With the moonshine S-OFF coming out, I see the DNA having a pretty long life in the "hardcore" smartphone user scene. It is a top of the line device, with fantastic hardware, and will be competitive for a while still, even with the ONE and speculated "DNA 2" coming out. At least, that is my guess.
EoL of the DNA at this point in time would be a bit weird.... it was release 11/2012 so idk how that would work out. There is already talks about the butterfly 2 and its said to be coming out in third qtr. As soon as that hits the market, we should see our next htc phone on verizon a month after or so.
Verizon may stop selling the device or whatever they choose. But after all the time I've referenced xda and came here I can pretty much guarantee that it is far from the eol on this and many other communities. And I highly doubt HTC will just drop it, I'm sure they saw what happened with Samsung and the s1s when they took forever to update anything.
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It would be a shame if Verizon does this but I would think they would start those corney commercials showing the phone as 99.00 down with 2year agreement or something like that - today is my last day to return I think, so I have a lot to consider
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With the moonshine S-OFF coming out, I see the DNA having a pretty long life in the "hardcore" smartphone user scene. It is a top of the line device, with fantastic hardware, and will be competitive for a while still, even with the ONE and speculated "DNA 2" coming out. At least, that is my guess.
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I absolutely love the device. I was with Sprint for nine years and finally broke down and switched. We, up until about 3-5 years ago didn't even have a Verizon presence in our state. They still even now only have about 10% of the market here so the LTE here is outstanding. Normally running 15-30 down and the same up. Enough of the history of Verizon in our state. I just picked this phone up several weeks ago when it had that Free coupon on the net. As I said I love the hardware and the software is meh, I would rather be running sense 5 on it, but for now, it is what it is, and with a custom launcher and a few miner tweaks it good for now. I had the very first Evo on Sprint and loved it for the short time I had it. After joining the rooting community though I purchased a Nexus S, followed by a Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, Nexus 10, and a GS3 that was given to me. So I am very familiar with rooting devices and running custom everything on them. With my life story here now, my main concern is if they do end of life this phone there will not be any more devices going out so Verizon, HTC, and just the dev community will move on. Its a shame. This is a great phone. I have used the One extensively and there is little difference in the phones in the way that they run and I found it strange that everyone, or many people, in the community were pushing to see the One on Verizon. This is the One in many ways, and in several ways better. I think at this point Verizon is looking to ditch this device because of all the whoopla the One is causing and its sad. I don't plan on ditching this phone anytime in the near future either. Its just sad that this phone is so understated. Is it better than the One, no but awfully close. Is it better than the S4, in my personal opinion after spending a week with it, yes. Its definitely better than a good crop of the phones out now even with its age. I think until we hear of a new device to take its place Verizon would be smart to dump a smidge more money and re-advertise for this device dropping the price point to $150-99 on contract and breathe some life back into this device. When I went to switch over to Verizon, and I knew what I was there to get, the sales person mentioned at least three other devices that were no where near the quality of this device. So not only at the corporate level but the floor level this phone needs some love. I'm thinking its to late at this point but i am still glad I picked it up. I'm still happy with it as it is, although I am excited to get it rooted at some point, as this phone has huge potential. I'm not wanting to be the "glass is half empty" guy its just not looking promising at this point for our beloved DNA :'(
The HTC Thunderbolt got a full Android upgrade (2.3 to 4.0) over a year after Verizon stopped selling it, and the Droid Incredible got a maintainance update a few months back I believe. So even when Verizon stops selling it, it won't stop getting support for a while.
Look at what the rezound has pulled off, and in my opinion it was a great device, but nowhere near as nice as the DNA. EOL is as much a frame of mind as anything else in the development community and userbase. I still help out with rezound development and have some close friends and dev partners active so we spend a lot of sleepless nights working on software for users and tools for developers so they're able to offer more. I moved up to the DNA because I wanted too, but didn't leave the rezound behind. There's a lot of guys like me who tend to do that to help drive the spirit of android, and there's also guys who unlike me are true developers making things happen. The DNA is a really nice device and if the development and custom software minded community wants a device to thrive, it will thrive.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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Verizon Wireless: the exclusive carrier of the Galaxy Note 3.
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The first sign they wanted to phase out the DNA was the Free-with-2year promotion.
With the HTC One still completely unannounced on verizon (and all reps denying it vehemently), I'd have to guess that either HTC doesn't like how vzw handled their marketing or verizon made a yet-unannounced sweetheart deal with someone else. My money'd be on Samsung since verizon is really pimping their products.
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Wow. I wonder if that means LATER this summer like August or sooner....?
I see a lot of DNA's coming up for sale soon.. Mine included !! Depends on the retail cost though..
Definitely got to voice my opinion on this. Had the rezound for a year and a half. For how much I used it, I needed an extended battery but overall. Great device and first really high resolution phone. I just got my DNA and love it. The rezound was lagging since the last update.
I think Verizon dropped the ball on the one. They are putting it out almost 5-6 months after its initial release. That's atrocious. As phone connoisseurs we all know something new will be out soon after that anyway.
I'm sticking with my DNA. I don't see the development dying down after moonshine is released. The one has some small upgrades (most are portable thanks to the people here). And screen size downgrade.
I'll wait for the next nice HTC device to upgrade.
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Releasing so late after the other carriers is kind of a stupid move, but honestly if you have vzw and want the one, you're stuck waiting anyways. Or get the gs7 or whatever that Sammy brings out a month after that.
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Releasing so late after the other carriers is kind of a stupid move, but honestly if you have vzw and want the one, you're stuck waiting anyways. Or get the gs7 or whatever that Sammy brings out a month after that.
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I don't see how its stupid. When the iPhone 4 released on Verizon, they had the fixed bezel around it vs atts 4
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I don't see how its stupid. When the iPhone 4 released on Verizon, they had the fixed bezel around it vs atts 4
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I only say its stupid, which is probably not the right word, but its because they're placing a phone out months after its alternate carrier releases, meaning it'll be an older device releasing against newer devices, seems to counter what is normally done, release newer devices against newer devices. I thought I made that point clear, but maybe not, the joke with the gs7 or whatever must not have been clear enough.
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