[Q] Galaxy S3 UI Lag with Siyah - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
Hi All..
First lemme give my phone details:
Galaxy S3 International (i9300)
Kernel : Siyah 1.8.9
ROMs (Dual Boot)
: WanamLite v5.5 (based on ZSEMA1)
CM10.1 Nightly
MODS : JKAY framework
My problem is that there is noticeable UI lags when in the homescreen or the app drawer.
I have not overclocked/underclocked the CPU. Have no undervoltage setting as well. In STweaks, the max CPU freq is set to the stock 1400Mhz and the min CPU freq is set to the recommended 200Mhz. And I have kept the "touch boost level" to 1200Mhz.
When I see the UI lags, I used CPU spy to monitor the CPU speeds. What I could see was that the speeds were at the lower end (200 - 800 Mhz) !!! Since the touch boost level is set to 1200, shouldn't the CPU jump to 1200 Mhz when I unlock/touch the screen ? I agree that the CPU speed needn't stay at 1200Mhz after the speed boost, but shouldn't it stay at a freq to ensure that there is no UI lag ?
If the operating freq is at 1400Mhz, the UI is perfect !!! It goes to this state automatically usually (takes a while ), or manually I can make this happen by setting the min CPU freq to say 1300 MHz from STweaks. Once this state is hit, the UI wrks with no lag until say I lock the screen, or maybe the device goes to sleep for a while.
Any ideas as to why the CPU freq stays at lower values and doesn't come up enough to give a lag free UI ?
stanzlavos said:
Hi All..
First lemme give my phone details:
Galaxy S3 International (i9300)
Kernel : Siyah 1.8.9
ROMs (Dual Boot)
: WanamLite v5.5 (based on ZSEMA1)
CM10.1 Nightly
MODS : JKAY framework
My problem is that there is noticeable UI lags when in the homescreen or the app drawer.
I have not overclocked/underclocked the CPU. Have no undervoltage setting as well. In STweaks, the max CPU freq is set to the stock 1400Mhz and the min CPU freq is set to the recommended 200Mhz. And I have kept the "touch boost level" to 1200Mhz.
When I see the UI lags, I used CPU spy to monitor the CPU speeds. What I could see was that the speeds were at the lower end (200 - 800 Mhz) !!! Since the touch boost level is set to 1200, shouldn't the CPU jump to 1200 Mhz when I unlock/touch the screen ? I agree that the CPU speed needn't stay at 1200Mhz after the speed boost, but shouldn't it stay at a freq to ensure that there is no UI lag ?
If the operating freq is at 1400Mhz, the UI is perfect !!! It goes to this state automatically usually (takes a while ), or manually I can make this happen by setting the min CPU freq to say 1300 MHz from STweaks. Once this state is hit, the UI wrks with no lag until say I lock the screen, or maybe the device goes to sleep for a while.
Any ideas as to why the CPU freq stays at lower values and doesn't come up enough to give a lag free UI ?
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ANNNNNNNNNNNND what rom are you talking about!?! CM10.1 or Samsung? if you want a LAGG FREE phone do the following.
1: OverClock the CPU to 1.6ghz, then set min to 500mhz, use a -25mV or a -50mV
2: Set Governor to LULZACTIVEQ
3: Set MIN GPU freq to 266mhz
4: Set MAX GPU freq to 640mhz
5: Disable "gentle fair sleepers" on the CPU tab
6: Set the SCHEDULER to CFQ
7: Go to settings and enable GPU rendering
and FINALLY if non of the above work, FLASH Null_22.1 for a Samsung ROM. and Revolt, cm10.1, jellybam for a AOSP rom.
IF NON OF THAT WORK'S download super wipe and flash a new phone.
Can I just say, 1200mhz?!?! Default is 800 and I'm using 700 on my device. It's a bit extreme.
Perhaps your governor is affecting smoothness. Try using pegasusq. Or it may be the app your using to change CPU frequency doesn't even have ROOT access
International S III 16GB / CM10.1 / Gokhan's SK
paintball23456 said:
ANNNNNNNNNNNND what rom are you talking about!?! CM10.1 or Samsung? if you want a LAGG FREE phone do the following.
1: OverClock the CPU to 1.6ghz, then set min to 500mhz, use a -25mV or a -50mV
2: Set Governor to LULZACTIVEQ
3: Set MIN GPU freq to 266mhz
4: Set MAX GPU freq to 640mhz
5: Disable "gentle fair sleepers" on the CPU tab
6: Set the SCHEDULER to CFQ
7: Go to settings and enable GPU rendering and disable hardware overlays (resets on boot)
and FINALLY if non of the above work, FLASH Null_22.1 for a Samsung ROM. and Revolt, cm10.1, jellybam for a AOSP rom.
IF NON OF THAT WORK'S download super wipe and flash a new phone.
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No. Do not disable hardware overlays. That will, if anything, cause your device to lag more.
Theshawty said:
No. Do not disable hardware overlays. That will, if anything, cause your device to lag more.
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O_O not in my case..
paintball23456 said:
O_O not in my case..
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This is a quote from a guy over at rootzwiki
Without a hardware overlay every application that is displaying things on the screen will share video memory and will have to constantly check for collision and clipping to render a proper image, this can cost a lot of processing power. With a hardware overlay each application gets its own portion of video memory, getting rid of the need to check for collision and clipping.
Basically, using hardware overlays can reduce CPU usage by quite a bit, so I would leave it enabled.
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Theshawty said:
This is a quote from a guy over at rootzwiki
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Right.. then why dafudge is my s3 SMOOTHER with it enabled?
paintball23456 said:
Right.. then why dafudge is my s3 SMOOTHER with it enabled?
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Maybe you're just lucky, I dunno. It's better to let a real dev share his/her input on this. I'm merely a noob who knows how to Google...
Theshawty said:
Maybe you're just lucky, I dunno. It's better to let a real dev share his/her input on this. I'm merely a noob who knows how to Google...
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L.O.L but not that big of a noob... thanks for the info - and also reminding me for the 100,000,000,000,000 time to sign up to rootwiki
paintball23456 said:
L.O.L but not that big of a noob... thanks for the info - and also reminding me for the 100,000,000,000,000 time to sign up to rootwiki
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Heh, maybe not.
Uhm, you're welcome, I guess? :good:
It's probably smoother due to the fact that the CPU will be working at a higher frequency more often. Those that have disabled hardware overlays are causing their CPU to ramp up every time an application has to render an image
paintball23456 said:
ANNNNNNNNNNNND what rom are you talking about!?! CM10.1 or Samsung? if you want a LAGG FREE phone do the following.
1: OverClock the CPU to 1.6ghz, then set min to 500mhz, use a -25mV or a -50mV
2: Set Governor to LULZACTIVEQ
3: Set MIN GPU freq to 266mhz
4: Set MAX GPU freq to 640mhz
5: Disable "gentle fair sleepers" on the CPU tab
6: Set the SCHEDULER to CFQ
7: Go to settings and enable GPU rendering
and FINALLY if non of the above work, FLASH Null_22.1 for a Samsung ROM. and Revolt, cm10.1, jellybam for a AOSP rom.
IF NON OF THAT WORK'S download super wipe and flash a new phone.
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The lag is more obvious in the Touchwiz based Wanamlite ROM.
1) As i said, when running at 1.4Ghz (with stock voltage settings) itsef the UI is smooth. So I don't actually want to overclock. . The problem is that the CPU speed doesn't rise up and stays between 200-800 causing the lag.
2) Will try changing the governor (first let me read how it is different from pegasusq ).
3,4) Again, with stock settings itself the UI is smooth. The problem is what i have said under point 1.
5) Already done.
6) WIll try setting scheduler to CFQ (again, lemme read bout it first )
7) GPU rendering is already ticketd. Hardware overlays are not disabled (thought this would increase the lag).
Is NULL_22.1 a Touchwiz based ROM ? And Jelybam is an AOKP ROM I supose ?
Wouldn't want to do the last option.
Also, I saw that you have mentioned three ROMs in your signature. Siyah lets you dual boot right, how come 3 ? Or were you just talking about your preference ?
And, does siyah 1.8.9 for the S3 let us boot with NULL_22.1 and jellybam in dual boot? Are all these combos possible ?
Sammy + CM10.1 (this works, I knw )
Sammy + AOKP
AOKP + CM10.1
raminica seemed
23Six said:
Can I just say, 1200mhz?!?! Default is 800 and I'm using 700 on my device. It's a bit extreme.
Perhaps your governor is affecting smoothness. Try using pegasusq. Or it may be the app your using to change CPU frequency doesn't even have ROOT access
International S III 16GB / CM10.1 / Gokhan's SK
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From what I understood, it just boosts upto 1200Mhz on touch and needn't stay there. Right ? The only downside there is battery life I suppose ?
Am already using pegasusq and yes, sTweaks does have root access.
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Wow nice to see you here. Will try it out immediately Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App
looks really really really promising... trying it now
how come i only get scores around 3200 with every rom and kernel? and everyone else has so high going to try this one soon
yeaaa baby !!
Good to see you here Neo. Been a Aurax/Reflex fan on the Desire... This is good news! Regards
Awesome, will try this when i get home Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App
Just flashed. Oc to 1.5ghz. First quadrant 4566 will give feedback on batt consumption soon
Hope to see soon a rom made by you..... On my old desire i had your auraxtsense!!! U are great
Very nice neo. I'm a fan of your desire rom.. now u make a kernel for sgs2. No doubt, i will try it in the future. I hope u release your own version rom for sgs2. +1 Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
+2 Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
trunks986 said: Hope to see soon a rom made by you..... On my old desire i had your auraxtsense!!! U are great Click to expand... Click to collapse Soon mate, soon. Thanks
Holy shiznit,who would've thought we'd be seeing you here Neo?I gotta thank you for the first rom that made me actually love my Desire.Not the only one,but it was the first whatsoever. I'd like to tell you a thing or two(or three ) though. 1)You should add support for SetCPU's voltage control.I know there are other apps that do the same thing,but the number of people using SetCPU is massive.And on the Galaxy S 2,undervolting is very important,especially to avoid issues with overheating. 2)Could you pleaaaase lower the max clock by only 4MHz?My phone is unstable at 1504MHz with 1350mV,while it's rock stable at 1500Mhz with 1325mV.And I'm serious,4MHz only and it makes a huge difference,while performance-wise it's the same. 3)You could also overclock the GPU.200MHz with 750mV min and 400MHz with 1100mV max seems stable for everyone.You can gain quite a lot of performance,while it doesn't heat or consume more.You can also test if what I say is true yourself. Else that those three...Well,welcome to our world pal!The world of power!
I don't know what you did to get 5000 in productivity on smartbench11 cos I can't hit more than 4300 even with the vfs setting changed...and yes I am overclocked to 1.5ghz and locked there.
Hi can make a kernel with default clock with 1,5ghz please ?
Yanardag said: Hi can make a kernel with default clock with 1,5ghz please ? Click to expand... Click to collapse Just download SetCPU and set the min and max to full.
Mirror http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4LLP5HPF
Another mirror http://www.multiupload.com/L215724GBY
Just flashed your kernel. Thanks Is auto brightness broken ? The brightness goes to 100% on autobrightness eventhough it is night and there is no light Tried wiping dalvik cache but did not help EDIT: Covering the light sensors with a black blanket did not change anything. So there seems to be a problem with auto brightness. I am on stock KG1 leaked rom
I9100G and SetCPU
I have been testing different SetCPU settings on my I9100G and been running AnTuTu Benchmark. Here are the results: hotplug - 6153 ondemand - 3739 conservative - 3830 performance - 4066 SetCPU not installed - 4964 Does that even make any sense? Shouldn't I have the best performance with the performance setting?
Not surely.... This may be different for any situation... It depends on the kernel, voltages and so on... I thinks that it's normal! Sent from my Galaxy SII powered by CheckRom
Would anyone know what are the default kernel settings? It's strange because when I disable SetCPU I am getting a worse performance again, but from what I can see in system files, the SetCPU settings are still here. EDIT: Actually some more tests: hotplug - 6036 conservative - 5834 ondemand - 5740 performance - 5058 I might have forgot to tick the "Enable" thing in SetCPU with some of the first tests :/
_AnAkIn_ said: Would anyone know what are the default kernel settings? It's strange because when I disable SetCPU I am getting a worse performance again, but from what I can see in system files, the SetCPU settings are still here. EDIT: Actually some more tests: hotplug - 6036 conservative - 5834 ondemand - 5740 performance - 5058 I might have forgot to tick the "Enable" thing in SetCPU with some of the first tests :/ Click to expand... Click to collapse Wich rom/kernel are you runing?
_AnAkIn_ said: I have been testing different SetCPU settings on my I9100G and been running AnTuTu Benchmark. Here are the results: hotplug - 6153 ondemand - 3739 conservative - 3830 performance - 4066 SetCPU not installed - 4964 Does that even make any sense? Shouldn't I have the best performance with the performance setting? Click to expand... Click to collapse And what values you get on glbenchmark?
Extweak settings Problems
Hii I am currently using neat rom lite..and siyah 3.3d kernel.. However i am having some problem..Even though i get the option of OCing my cpu to 1400 through extweaks.. I am unable to do any overclocking with other apps like set cpu or sys tuner..They still show my max cpu freq as 1200.. Also today i scaled my cpu from 800-1400mhz for playing a heavy demanding game( the dark knight rises) and after about 40 min of gameplay..i found out from cpu spy..that 39 min my cpu stayed on 800mhz...while for only 30s it stayed at 1.4 ghz.. why sooo? what am i doing wrong? can anyone shed some light please thanks
aviral1990 said: Hii I am currently using neat rom lite..and siyah 3.3d kernel.. However i am having some problem..Even though i get the option of OCing my cpu to 1400 through extweaks.. I am unable to do any overclocking with other apps like set cpu or sys tuner..They still show my max cpu freq as 1200.. Also today i scaled my cpu from 800-1400mhz for playing a heavy demanding game( the dark knight rises) and after about 40 min of gameplay..i found out from cpu spy..that 39 min my cpu stayed on 800mhz...while for only 30s it stayed at 1.4 ghz.. why sooo? what am i doing wrong? can anyone shed some light please thanks Click to expand... Click to collapse well even if u set 1.4g also the same will be reached only when the cpu demand for the same is created by any app and since for most of the games 800mhz is more than sufficeient. also over clocking CPU will in long run does hamper ur performance rather than improving the same, and also u may find issues like Random reboot or freezes creeping up
try using extweaks only and uninstall other set cpu apps..
Tricks25 said: try using extweaks only and uninstall other set cpu apps.. Click to expand... Click to collapse actually i want to use set cpu so i can tweak the governer settings..but really i dunno whats happening..it doesnt let get me past 1200 and even if i OC to 1400 using extweaks..it doesnt OC to 1400 because set cpu doesnt let it do so... And comon..the dark knight rises is an open world game with awesome graphics..how can it not utilize the max processor..i cant believe it wont need more than 800mhz..coz it stutters a bit..
Update your kernel and extweaks app. SetCPU app is original (from GPlay) or ripped from Internet?
Anyway to get battery tweaks without resorting to custom kernels?
I would love to get the battery life profiles from the custom kernels but I don't want to install them and would like to relay to the stock kernel of my rom which is RR. For reasons that I want to avoid bugs and would want to stay updated all the time. I found spectrum which exactly what will solve my problem but the problem is that it doesn't support the stock kernel of RR.
Stock kernel of RR support "Kernel Adiutor". Kernel Adiutor give you various useful settings. In my opinion the first is change voltage of your CPU (for each speed). i Undervolt all Little cores: (Warning each cpu need different settings, this setting can not work for you) 400 and 691 mhz with 695mv 806mhz 745mv 1017mhz 825mv 1190mhz 880mv 1305mhz 915mv 1382mhz 935mv 1401mhz 940mv 1440mhz 950mv Big cores DISABLED. (i dont have lags with this settings... i play Clash Royale and use social apps, if you need it enable) In GPU (i dont play games except Clash Royale) 133mhz min 432mhz max Down differential 75 Iddle wait 7 Workload 10 For test speed/voltage you need to set same min and max speed and disable de Big Cores. (Or set max speed "X"mhz and use performance governor) low voltage use Antutu for test or other similar app. if work low voltage again test if work repeat if not raise the voltage 5 or 10 mv and test again. DONT USE "APPLY ON BOOT" when you try different voltages. when you have your profile save this and here in profile menu you can set it at startup (you need to be sure of your phone stability with this settings). Equally i recommend Agni kernel 13... i use before RR oreo and now AEX oreo and im happy with this kernel, zero problems, all fine. in this forum other users try with VULMAX but i prefer my settings in manual and not with profile (i dont know the changes in each profile). https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/themes/xgh-t3701825 You can enable ForceDoze with patch https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/themes/universalforcedoze-deepsleep-googledns-t3770350 With ForceDoze you may have problems with sync of message apps or with clock update (you can fix it in your battery settings> optimized apps)
How often does AGNI gets updated?
drckml said: How often does AGNI gets updated? Click to expand... Click to collapse i dont know but is really good for me. Equally if you like stock kernels may use RR stock kernel + Kernel Adiutor without problems. link of agni kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...nel-24-09-2016-agni-puremiui-mm-v1-4-t3468042 last update 2018-06-28
I tried Vulmax and the battery config and it made my phone really fast, literally as in the animations of closing and opening of apps became way too fast. I think Kernel Auditor would be better for me.
drckml said: I tried Vulmax and the battery config and it made my phone really fast, literally as in the animations of closing and opening of apps became way too fast. I think Kernel Auditor would be better for me. Click to expand... Click to collapse you can change animation speed from the developer options in the settings.. disabling animation saves a bit battery thats y it is disabled
Max performance in kernel auditor set back to default at 1.5ghz after few minutes ?
I am Using honor 8 frd L02 emui 5.0.1.... And device is Rooted ... I want the maximum possible frequency while gaming...and maximum allowed is 2.3ghz ... Kernel auditor works fine in setting up maximum performance at 2.3ghz(on demand as well as performance)... But after few minutes frequency sets to 1.8ghz or 1.5ghz... It maybe due to emui... But I don't want to switch to custom ROM as there are problems like camera or calling.... So what is the solution to overclocking the CPU.... I am thinking about using open kernel tweaks like AKT(advance kernel tweaks), or LKT(legendary kernel tweaks)... Will it solve my problem... Or is there any other solution ???