I see lots of people restoring data or app backups after a clean ROM flash. Do you think this adds of the instability problems so many people have, while others have very few problems?
I have done it on five phones, countless ROMs and have never ever once had a single issue.
I could never ever NOT restore data.
It's like losing everything I ever did on the app [whether it be countless hours of Ski Safari, Angry Birds, etc]. However on apps like Facebook, twitter, and stuff like that, I could live without the data, but it's nice because I don't have to relogin.
I bounce around on several ROMs from time to time checking out whether I want to run one or another as a daily. Been jumping over to AOSP and AOKP recently to try to get things going, but haven't gotten things quite to my liking.
The ability to reload my entire ICS Sense 3.6 system with a quick Nandroid restore has been invaluable and made that possible. I even store older Nandroids on my PC, and keep an extra one on my sdcard (well, it is 64g) in case I want to roll back a few versions to experiment.
For instance, when Amon Ra 3.16 came out with the fix for rooting in the dev options, I restored my original Global RUU install that I couldn't root with 3.15, rooted it, then backed it up for legacy purposes.
Same thing with my tablet; have played with several ROMs for my tablet, emboldened by the fact that I can always roll back a Nandroid.
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The ability to reload my entire ICS Sense 3.6 system with a quick Nandroid restore has been invaluable and made that possible. I even store older Nandroids on my PC, and keep an extra one on my sdcard (well, it is 64g) in case I want to roll back a few versions to experiment.
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You misunderstand the premise of the question, we're not talking about nandroids. We're referring to changing ROMs and then restoring data and apps from the old ROM to the new ROM. I see people doing this all the time, then they litter the threads complaining of things not working. I don't doubt it's possible to do this on a select and intelligent basis, but in the general population I don't think it works well.
I use gobackup (the older version cuz its free lol) and it restores data fine including game levels and all that good stuff like Facebook sign in
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You misunderstand the premise of the question, we're not talking about nandroids. We're referring to changing ROMs and then restoring data and apps from the old ROM to the new ROM. I see people doing this all the time, then they litter the threads complaining of things not working. I don't doubt it's possible to do this on a select and intelligent basis, but in the general population I don't think it works well.
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Apologies. There are many kinds of backups. As to those kind of backups, before preparing to switch ROMs, I run App2zip backing up all my apps and data to a flashable zip file. Once the new ROM is settled in, I will flash that back. Some apps are routinely not well-behaved on restore, e.g. Swiftkey, PowerAmp, and those I'll simply uninstall then restore a Titanium backup.
I have had very little problems restoring app data this way. The one thing I do NOT do is restore the actual \data partition itself in between ROM flashes, and I don't just batch restore from Titanium or from Rerware's MyBackupPro. Those are for piecemeal restores when data in a particular app becomes problematic.
I agree that you can't just "run a restore" and expect good results; but if you're deliberate and careful about it, you can minimize disruption between ROM flashes.
As often as I flash, I'd never have a working phone if I didn't do restores. I restore apps and selectively restore app data...mainly games, and apps that are a pain to set up.
Titanium baby.
When I use adb to backup I only make it backup apps/there apk never do system or shared, things like media and personal files I take off of the phone and put on pc before adb. There's several ways to backup your contacts to current places so you don't have to type them in again
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There's several ways to backup your contacts to current places so you don't have to type them in again.
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You mean you don't let Google restore your backups automatically? I assumed everyone did that... weird.
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You mean you don't let Google restore your backups automatically? I assumed everyone did that... weird.
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I hate that. Half the time it ends up restoring stuff I've already uninstalled.
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Advantages of CWM 3.0?
and why doesn't Titanium Backup backup usernames / passwords for everything?
1. none really
2. It does.
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Advantages of CWM 3.0?
and why doesn't Titanium Backup backup usernames / passwords for everything?
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To answer your first question a little more clearly. The only advantage so far is that it would keep us up to par with others using CWR. We are far behind in our scripting style vs. other phones that use it.
For number 2. I think it highly depends on if you are saving apps vs apps and system data. I have seen it not save some passwords for random applications but if I run system data as well (which I hear is hit or miss) it will save the passwords.
You can also backup kernels with CWM 3.x
so i'm guessing usernames and password you have to restore system + data right?
I restored all my apps + data... but yet none of my games saved. any idea why? I run a backup every night at 3am for all new apps & newer versions... am I doing this wrong?
To be accurate you are the user and I assume you are talking about your contacts.
A little more info would be helpful. Are you contacts stored on your phone or google, or are they linked?
Do you use VZW Backup assistant?
Where are you not seeing them?
What steps did you use to back them up in TiBu.
TiBU has a good WiKi. Not trying to me a dik, there is a lot of good info there. A google search will bring it right up.
I keep my contacts in google so backing up is a non-issue.
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so i'm guessing usernames and password you have to restore system + data right?
I restored all my apps + data... but yet none of my games saved. any idea why? I run a backup every night at 3am for all new apps & newer versions... am I doing this wrong?
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Saved game states are not part of the newer versions. Before wiping I choose menu/batch/Forced redo of your backups. And that will update your new saved game states.
good day.
Damn. Thanks for the info chopper...lol. I had almost beat angry birds holiday grr. but why forced redo? Shouldn't just backup all apps do the TRICK?
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Hey guys! I am planning to install the CM7 ROM on my Droid X2. I want to back up my Applications and the application data and any other stuff so that I can restore those apps on CM7. But I heard some people are having trouble using Titanium Backup on CM7.
Are others having this issue too? And if this is indeed a big problem, what other application can I use to back up my apps and app data and restore them on CM7?
Thanks for you help in advance.
I recommend none
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motcher41 said:
I recommend none
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Then how do you backup and restore app data?
In the BSR recovery, you can do a Nandroid backup. Then, when you are ready to install those apps, you can get a couple of different apps to read from the nandroid backup:
Titanium Backup - But, if you have this, then just use it to backup your apps and data. But, it can restore nandroided programs and settings.
Yaffs Explorer - You can go into the nandroid backup and retrieve programs, settings and files from this and it's free.
I myself use Titanium Backup Pro to backup my programs and settings via the normal backup operations. But, I have used it to restore applications from a nandroid backup when I forgot to backup my settings via Titanium Backup before flashing. That's why I ALWAYS nandroid backup before I flash or SBF.
Titanium Backup, been using it for some time, never had an issue with it.
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Titanium Backup, been using it for some time, never had an issue with it.
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+1 to this...as long as you do NOT restore system data (ringtones, bluetooth pairings, remembered wifi networks, etc...) . User applications and application data has never caused me a problem going between ROMs.
Nandroid from recovery is the best and most accurate, in my opinion its way better than titanium because it actually makes a complete image of your current system and its free, never had any problems with it and it has saved me so many times...
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Nandroid from recovery is the best and most accurate, in my opinion its way better than titanium because it actually makes a complete image of your current system and its free, never had any problems with it and it has saved me so many times...
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Agreed for recovering from a mistake or installing something that didn't work. The OP was looking to be able to move to a different ROM without having to reinstall every app by hand. Nandroid won't help with that...
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Agreed for recovering from a mistake or installing something that didn't work. The OP was looking to be able to move to a different ROM without having to reinstall every app by hand. Nandroid won't help with that...
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But, you can use various apps, like Titanium Backup and others, to reinstall the apps from a nandroid backup. Titanium Backup is really good.
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Titanium backup is the best
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I use Titanium Backup and have never had a problem with restoring my apps and app data on CM7 or MIUI. I think the people who have problems with it are using it to backup and restore their system data, which is not good when changing a ROM since the system data can be a little different from ROM to ROM. Use it for apps and app data only.
I agree with all that say Titanium Backup. I did have a problem with it freezing when it was in between reinstalling an app and switching to another when I ran the batch. However, this might have been me being impatient and trying to enjoy CM7 too soon. lol. Also you can restore from the nandroid backup with the paid version of Titanium Backup.
Rom toolbox automatically backs up apks for root users, no data though.
Titanium backup might be ur best bet
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I have had the freezing problem also but it has only done it with cm7. Reboot usually fixed it. With cm7 i find myself rebooting allot anyway for little glitches. Kinda like windows really just doesn't seem to want to run continuous for long periods of time.
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With CM7, there are many small issues and annoyances for me.
I am going back to stock and maybe over to Eclipse.
Titanium: Frequent crashes, need data wipe to get it going for couple of my apps, (I NEVER restore system stuffs, just my apps).
Games: Some of them have random pauses, some of them have random crashes, 1 game won't work (Siegecraft) etc.
Apps: Sygic Navigation app does not work, Navigon works though, Gallery app re-starts all the time.
Phone calls: I am suspecting some calls are NOT coming through for me, my wife tells me that she has to call me 2-5 times to get through sometimes. I see some missed calls and get notifications, but I could SWEAR that the phone never rang.
Yes, this was my daily driver for couple of weeks, but I would not recommend it.
These issues (other than the phone calls) are minor and annoyance only, but when added all up, It doesn't contribute to good overall experience.
Once it gets few iterations of bug fixes, I will probably get back to it.
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Hey guys! I am planning to install the CM7 ROM on my Droid X2. I want to back up my Applications and the application data and any other stuff so that I can restore those apps on CM7. But I heard some people are having trouble using Titanium Backup on CM7.
Are others having this issue too? And if this is indeed a big problem, what other application can I use to back up my apps and app data and restore them on CM7?
Thanks for you help in advance.
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I use TiBu to backup my apps and data. However, don't use TiBu to restore system apps or data. That just causes problems. I create a "restore" group and put most of my apps in there and restore both the app and data. I also create a group for "apps only" and this just restores the app and not the data. Apps like Groupon I have had to go back and wiped their data to get them to work. If you don't have a bunch of apps (unlike me with 307 apps) I would recommend going through each app on it's own.
Ciao!
My Backup Pro has been very good to me. You can make data and app backsups that can me stored online aswell as on your phone's SD card.
Its also dummy-proof; you'll figure it out in ~15 minutes.
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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Restoring SMS, call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings are all fine. I have found, as you did, when you restore all data it really buggers things up.
I use SMS Backup&Restore from the Play store. Works great the several years I have been flashing ROM's.
I'm looking at the pre-upgrade backup- it has 1164 files. Which ones should I include or exclude from restoring?
I think I found SMSes in com.htc.messagescs, but I can't search in each archive file.
Yea you shouldn't do an "all data restore" when switching roms, especially when going from GB to ICS. You should ONLY restore data from apps, never restore system/settings data. Since roms are made differently (again, especially when going from GB to ICS) restoring settings/system data will mess up the rom. So just restore data from the apps you want, backup/restore SMS with SMS Backup and Restore, and then just manually change your settings and set-up your home screens the way you want. It takes an extra few minutes, but it will save you the hassle of things not working how they should.
SMS and MMS are stored in [SMS/MMS/APN]Dialer Storage.
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User account info within apps can usually be restored with restoring user data apps only. You will hardly ever restore "system apps". They are usually unique to the individual ROM, in my experience.
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Yea you shouldn't do an "all data restore" when switching roms, especially when going from GB to ICS. You should ONLY restore data from apps, never restore system/settings data. Since roms are made differently (again, especially when going from GB to ICS) restoring settings/system data will mess up the rom. So just restore data from the apps you want, backup/restore SMS with SMS Backup and Restore, and then just manually change your settings and set-up your home screens the way you want. It takes an extra few minutes, but it will save you the hassle of things not working how they should.
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So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
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So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
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The only thing I use TB for is to backup/restore apps and their data.
Call logs are located in "[CONTACTS/CALLS] Contacts Storage". Not sure if it is system data or user data set.
Also, here is a good How-to on backing up SMS/MMS and Call logs. Have not had the chance to try it out myself. LINK
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So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
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You CAN use it to restore sms, however that usually will also restore call history etc, which again, can cause you problems, especially when going from GB to ICS.
Thanks everyone.
I restored GB from nandroid and made 2 backups in different directories. One for user apps+ data, another one for system data. Wiped, installed an ICS ROM. Restored apps+data from the first backup. The results were mixed.Some apps restored with their settings intact, other ones lost all customization and account info.
Next I switched to the system backup and restored only data files (green in TB). Not all of them, only ones with the names that made sense. It gave me SMS and call logs, BT pairings, FB account. The list of WiFI APs was restored, but yheir keys passwords were not. None of the widgets came back. I had pretty time consuming setups with Beautiful Widgets and Circle Launcher and was hoping to continue using it.
It seems that there is no easy way to switch ROMs without some butt hurt.
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Thanks everyone.
I restored GB from nandroid and made 2 backups in different directories. One for user apps+ data, another one for system data. Wiped, installed an ICS ROM. Restored apps+data from the first backup. The results were mixed.Some apps restored with their settings intact, other ones lost all customization and account info.
Next I switched to the system backup and restored only data files (green in TB). Not all of them, only ones with the names that made sense. It gave me SMS and call logs, BT pairings, FB account. The list of WiFI APs was restored, but yheir keys passwords were not. None of the widgets came back. I had pretty time consuming setups with Beautiful Widgets and Circle Launcher and was hoping to continue using it.
It seems that there is no easy way to switch ROMs without some butt hurt.
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Remember you ate switching base, not just the ROM. So things will be a lot different and so much so that it will probably bork things up.
Also my backup pro is a great tool! Try out the free version in the market.
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gunfromsako said:
Also my backup pro is a great tool! Try out the free version in the market.
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Why do you think it is better than TB?
Strange, it looks like some people here change ROMs on a daily basis, and I thought that the whole process of transferring the maximum possible amount of settings has been well researched and documented by now.
stopeject said:
Why do you think it is better than TB?
Strange, it looks like some people here change ROMs on a daily basis, and I thought that the whole process of transferring the maximum possible amount of settings has been well researched and documented by now.
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Not necessarily better I just prefer the ui more. Each has their own pros and cons. Tommytomatoe turned me onto it back in the OG days and I've never looked back. (that guy is a genius) I got MBP on sale for 2.99 and I think it's well worth it. I still use TB, just not as much...
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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Sometimes crossing over leads to problems, had that trouble also going from GB to ICS!
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Having some issues with rom I'm running, but also want to know for when I flash CM10 from sense rom. How can I keep my texts, email accounts synched, app data, or reinstall it after a factory reset type wipe?
Do I go into recovery and install what file? I didn't see data as an option in twrp, only system (for wiping anyways). What is the best way to do this? I'm currently dirty flashing everything, but that won't always be doable.
Specs: S-off, newest radios/firmware, stock/goodies rom. Ummm, twrp 2.2 I believe.
Use titanium backup to back up and restore apps and app data. Emails and contacts are synced with your Google account. It's not a good idea to backup and restore system apps and data. There are apps in the play store for backing up texts.
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Use titanium backup to back up and restore apps and app data. Emails and contacts are synced with your Google account. It's not a good idea to backup and restore system apps and data. There are apps in the play store for backing up texts.
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U know, I did that on my og EVO and hated restoring each app one by one. I have tb premium now though, so I can one click restore right? For some reason not all of my contacts restore with Google, so I don't trust it. Isn't chrome supposed to back up all your passwords and usernames for websites as well?
Sorry guys, haven't wiped data since og EVO. It really got me hating to flash New roms, turned into an all day event restoring and getting it running again.
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U know, I did that on my og EVO and hated restoring each app one by one. I have tb premium now though, so I can one click restore right? For some reason not all of my contacts restore with Google, so I don't trust it. Isn't chrome supposed to back up all your passwords and usernames for websites as well?
Sorry guys, haven't wiped data since og EVO. It really got me hating to flash New roms, turned into an all day event restoring and getting it running again.
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I use ROM Toolbox Pro rather than Titanium. I have flashed and restored apps/data successfully with RTP, it's worth the price.
mr0roboto said:
I use ROM Toolbox Pro rather than Titanium. I have flashed and restored apps/data successfully with RTP, it's worth the price.
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Have to look into that. What features make it better than titback, lol? I've seen it in playstore and even reading the reviews don't get too heavy into what's so great about it. I have pretty much all the other tools it has already like file manager, overclock, backup/restore apps.
I believe u. Just really want to know what makes it so good other than a lot of tools in one app.
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Have to look into that. What features make it better than titback, lol? I've seen it in playstore and even reading the reviews don't get too heavy into what's so great about it. I have pretty much all the other tools it has already like file manager, overclock, backup/restore apps.
I believe u. Just really want to know what makes it so good other than a lot of tools in one app.
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Nice interface, easy to use.
Backup/restore of apps actually works (I had issues with Titanium)
build.prop editor is included
Ad blocker
You can manage apps (like Titanium) and freeze/uninstall/etc
It also has some ROM management tools that look pretty sweet, though I have not used them to date.
The developer is also easily accessible via email, and is responsive, so if you have issues you can contact him.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
I love Rom toolbox and its like 50 apps in 1
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This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
I believe it's for when you have to do a sudden wipe or restore on your phone due to a technical issue with it. Changing out the roms I would imagine would have negative impacts on your phone.
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UnexplainedBacon said:
This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
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I've been restoring my apps with titanium on all roms i've tried and my phone still works perfectly
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Most devs I have seen on threads will say it is ok for apps from the google store. Like angry birds, stuff like that.
It is the system apps, etc that cause issues.
I use it religiously to restore my purchased apps, etc.
yea i have been using titanium backup since the OG droid i only do market apps like the post above says. and i never let google restor anything when flashing a new rom. i would recommend if your new to TB just to do a batch backup before you go to flash a new rom thats what i do i used to do a schedual but stopped that.
on a side note i do back up my bluetooth pairings, wifi connections, and sms messages (but you have to be careful with sms if your going from one android version to another example : backing up 4.1.2 and restoring it on 4.2.1 may have ill effects)
It's best just to restore data for user apps, not the app and not system apps. By doing this you should never run into problems. Most of the times user apps won't cause problems if you restore the app on the same device with similar rom (touchwiz to touchwiz or AOSP to AOSP). When on the same device but different rom base (touchwiz to AOSP, AOSP to touchwiz) you'll see issues with some apps but not others. When going to a different phone there's a very high chance restoring any app will cause problems (data only is fine though). So the easiest way to avoid problems is to allow Google to restore your apps then go in and restore data. One system setting I haven't had problems with restoring (data only) is wifi, avoid restoring any other system apps or data. Also you should know that text messages backed up from touchwiz restore fine on other touchwiz roms, but may not have correct date and times, and vice versa. Also check out app extractor, it allows you to restore from your nandroid (free only allows 5 apps at a time, whereas titanium is one by one in the free version)
I appreciate the replies. Question on backing up just the data for my apps but not the apps themselves. I don't see an option for this in Titanium Backup. It seems to be giving me the option of user apps or user apps plus system apps. I don't see a user data only option. Am I missing something?
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I appreciate the replies. Question on backing up just the data for my apps but not the apps themselves. I don't see an option for this in Titanium Backup. It seems to be giving me the option of user apps or user apps plus system apps. I don't see a user data only option. Am I missing something?
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I may be wrong, but I think you have to back up the app and data, you just want to restore the data though.
Exactly right! I figured I didnt have much to lose on this phone, between Google and Box, so I went ahead flashed another ROM. Went to restore with Titanium and it gave me the option of apps and data or data only.
Thanks!
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Now what about carbon?
UnexplainedBacon said:
This may be a dumb question, but when/how would you use titanium backup? I've been reading threads, looking for a good first ROM, and I am surprised to see several of them (CM, AOKP, others) say NOT to restore data from a Titanium backup after installing their ROM.
Well... then... whats the point of Titanium Backup? If you cant restore the info, how/when would you use it?
Thanks for clarifying,
UB
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I usually do titanium backup for apps (all the white letter ones), and settings, bookmark, sms, call logs, widgets (selected green letter ones)....but no system apks (red letters). When you make these backups, you must remove all old backups.