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I don't really know a lot about SIM related stuff, so I apologize...
Can the Rezound be SIM unlocked for US networks? The only thread I've found on another site says no but I think the repliers were referring to bootloader unlocking, not SIM. I am S-Off if that matters..just don't want to spend money on those sites that use IMEI to unlock, then get nowhere.
awenthol said:
I don't really know a lot about SIM related stuff, so I apologize...
Can the Rezound be SIM unlocked for US networks? The only thread I've found on another site says no but I think the repliers were referring to bootloader unlocking, not SIM. I am S-Off if that matters..just don't want to spend money on those sites that use IMEI to unlock, then get nowhere.
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You don't need to SIM unlock it. Just put a different SIM in it and it'll work.
In the US? Because I've tried and never gotten anywhere...
awenthol said:
In the US? Because I've tried and never gotten anywhere...
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if you're on the newest firmware and radio then itll work as it adds the global capablities to it.just pop a regular sized sim in it and itll work,
tested with a t-mobile sim and it works.
paul_viado said:
if you're on the newest firmware and radio then itll work as it adds the global capablities to it.just pop a regular sized sim in it and itll work,
tested with a t-mobile sim and it works.
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I read elsewhere that the sim had to be activated on a prepaid phone first. Not sure of that is correct but something to look into.
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merlin66676 said:
I read elsewhere that the sim had to be activated on a prepaid phone first. Not sure of that is correct but something to look into.
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can't comment on that but the sim from t-mobile i used was already active on a family members account so i dont know if it matters..but i know for a fact it does work on the t-mo network. voice and data.
paul_viado said:
can't comment on that but the sim from t-mobile i used was already active on a family members account so i dont know if it matters..but i know for a fact it does work on the t-mo network. voice and data.
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Just to be sure about the specifics.
HTC rezound on the leaked 4.03.605.2 ruu
You put in a T-Mobile sim card in the rezound
And you had voice calling, texting, mms, and data working?
You didn't need to modify anything in the phone, change settings, add a T-Mobile apn, root, or Rom the phone?
It will be nice if you will write a short "how to" for moving a rezound onto USA T-Mobile.
Also were there any frequency mode restrictions?
Data speed was good?
Thanks,
Howard
Thanks guys...will keep messing with it.
Verizon would not give me an unlock code because according to them the phone isn't capable yet.
Rezound is globally capable and works on other US carriers
awenthol said:
I don't really know a lot about SIM related stuff, so I apologize...
Can the Rezound be SIM unlocked for US networks? The only thread I've found on another site says no but I think the repliers were referring to bootloader unlocking, not SIM. I am S-Off if that matters..just don't want to spend money on those sites that use IMEI to unlock, then get nowhere.
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The FCC ruling that Verizon is responding to by making the Rezound, Razr, Droid 4, etc. globally capable also opens the phones up for use by other carriers. This was "Big Red's" initial impetus for not unlocking the phones native features. So yes, you can use this phone on Tmobile's network.
sephir0n said:
The FCC ruling that Verizon is responding to by making the Rezound, Razr, Droid 4, etc. globally capable also opens the phones up for use by other carriers. This was "Big Red's" initial impetus for not unlocking the phones native features. So yes, you can use this phone on Tmobile's network.
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Have you tried to enter T-Mobile's APN?
It won't save and show in the list.
It appears Verizon locked it to only use Verizon's APN?
when booted into the bootloader there is a simlock item on the menu.
if one has s-off and an appropriate config.dat file on the removable microSD card it is supposed to SIMM unlock, so one doesn't get that sim locked picture on the phone after inserting another vendor's SIMM card.
this information is from reading, not from doing it.
I'm running T-Mobile US (EDGE) just fine. 100%
Did nothing but put the simcard in the phone and flashed a GSM ROM (Downtown).
I did flash the latest radio and firmware with S-OFF but everything was working before hand.
I activated the Prepaid Simcard on T-Mobiles website and used the Rezounds IMEI without problems just added the right APN for MMS and DATA.
Tachi91 said:
I'm running T-Mobile US (EDGE) just fine. 100%
Did nothing but put the simcard in the phone and flashed a GSM ROM (Downtown).
I did flash the latest radio and firmware with S-OFF but everything was working before hand.
I activated the Prepaid Simcard on T-Mobiles website and used the Rezounds IMEI without problems just added the right APN for MMS and DATA.
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Sounds like you have no idea if it works with stock 4.93.605.2
You know it works with "downtown" rom
HowardZ said:
Sounds like you have no idea if it works with stock 4.93.605.2
You know it works with "downtown" rom
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Stock 605.2 ... Yes besides the annoying "invalid simcard" on the lockscreen it worked fine. Only reason I switched was because I'm not a fan of Sense 3.6
Tachi91 said:
Stock 605.2 ... Yes besides the annoying "invalid simcard" on the lockscreen it worked fine. Only reason I switched was because I'm not a fan of Sense 3.6
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Thanks Tachi,
I plan to order a T-Mobile SIM card to play with on monday. it will have 10 minutes of talk time, but no data. I still have quite some time left on my Verizon contract before I switch to T-Mobile. This might also be a good option for my daughter.
First, I will see how this works on my stock rooted 4.03.605.2 system with htcdev unlock and s-off. If I get the SIM locked warning, I will try installing a hboot loadable SIM unlock config.dat file I got from a website - it has my IMEI inside it.
I don't know why, but I can not enter the T-Mobile apn in my system, even if I switch the phone into gsm mode.
Then I will try the downtown ROM, if it is ok to load it ontop of 4.03.605.2
thanks,
Howard
Hello Community,
I recently purchased a used HTC Droid DNA on eBay. The user couldn't tell me very much about the phone beyond describing it's exterior condition to me. I didn't have to play with this phone for very long before I realized what a pleasurable device this would be to use, especially for someone upgrading from a Motorola Bionic. HOWEVER, it also wasn't very long into my usual customizations that I realized, that like my Bionic early on, doing anything fun on this phone is a son-of-a-*****.
I want to eventually root this phone, flash Cyanogenmod, and then flash it to Pageplus Cellular, but first things first. I really don't want to wait 5 days for a AT&T SIM card to get here from Minnesota or wherever, so does anyone know of a way I can tell if this device is already unlocked? Perhaps someone knows of an application or some other software than can tell me, or maybe there is something in the phone's settings? Anything at all would be nice.
Thank you,
Jack2402 =)
If you boot into the boot loader (turn off device and hold power and vol down) it should say s on or s off. That's the best way to tell, you are looking for s off. Moonshine will get you unlocked and s off though really easily
Hit thanks if I helped! Check out my site at www.circuitsaviors.com
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you telling me how to unlock saftey? Isn't that different from unlocking the SIM so I can flash it Pageplus? Or am I confused. Forgive me, I've rooted several phones and I've flashed one phone but I've never had to unlock one because I usually purchase them from sellers who already know there're unlocked.
Imacellist said:
If you boot into the boot loader (turn off device and hold power and vol down) it should say s on or s off. That's the best way to tell, you are looking for s off. Moonshine will get you unlocked and s off though really easily
Hit thanks if I helped! Check out my site at www.circuitsaviors.com
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Jack2402 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you telling me how to unlock saftey? Isn't that different from unlocking the SIM so I can flash it Pageplus? Or am I confused. Forgive me, I've rooted several phones and I've flashed one phone but I've never had to unlock one because I usually purchase them from sellers who already know there're unlocked.
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Moonshine unlocked the bootloader, not the SIM. Two completely different concepts.
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Sorry didn't realize you were talking about carrier unlocking. I don't know anything about that. Sorry
Hit thanks if I helped! Check out my site at www.circuitsaviors.com
If I remember right, the dna is sim unlocked out of the box
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Decree said:
If I remember right, the dna is sim unlocked out of the box
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I find that hard to believe seeing that Verizon locks EVERYTHING up so tightly.
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It's sim unlocked. Your best bet is to wait for your sim to arrive put it in and just change the apn settings to match page plus to get mms. Once you do that you should be good to go.
As for flashing and rooting it's actually easy thanks to beaups and the moonshine process he created for getting s off.
Head over to the development section and it's stickeyed
Run moonshine and follow the easy steps and you will get an s off phone and unlocked bootloader. After that load a custom recovery and then back up with a nandroid backup and flash any rom or kernel of your choosing.
If you need any help with that feel free to PM me and I will be happy to help you.
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_phoey said:
I find that hard to believe seeing that Verizon locks EVERYTHING up so tightly.
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Actually, for the last year or so, every LTE device that I've been aware of from VZW has come SIM unlocked, included DNA and Iphone 5. I think VZW isn't too afraid of people leaving, and if they do, they have a nasty ETF they can hit you with. And ding your credit if you don't pay it. And if you already have bad credit, then VZW already has a hefty deposit. So, yeah.
Jaggar345 said:
It's sim unlocked. Your best bet is to wait for your sim to arrive put it in and just change the apn settings to match page plus to get mms. Once you do that you should be good to go.
As for flashing and rooting it's actually easy thanks to beaups and the moonshine process he created for getting s off.
Head over to the development section and it's stickeyed
Run moonshine and follow the easy steps and you will get an s off phone and unlocked bootloader. After that load a custom recovery and then back up with a nandroid backup and flash any rom or kernel of your choosing.
If you need any help with that feel free to PM me and I will be happy to help you.
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THANK YOU!!! Fair warning, whenever my SIM card gets here I will probably take you up on your offer. I've been through a lot of this stuff with my Bionic (that phone was a nightmare to flash carriers) but I could definitely use a little help!
Jaggar345 said:
It's sim unlocked. Your best bet is to wait for your sim to arrive put it in and just change the apn settings to match page plus to get mms. Once you do that you should be good to go.
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It's not quite that easy to get mms working. Verizon's stock ROM uses a whitelist for APN types and will not allow a MMS APN at all, you can enter the settings but they will be lost and MMS will NOT work, spent 2 hours on the phone with AT&T support working on this very issue.
If you're going to use the DNA on a GSM carrier for daily use, it's best to flash something like NOS M7 GSM version as this will allow the proper APN to be set up and mms will work. Once I switched to a ROM meant for GSM carriers, I have found MMS to be 100% reliable.
Dave12308 said:
It's not quite that easy to get mms working. Verizon's stock ROM uses a whitelist for APN types and will not allow a MMS APN at all, you can enter the settings but they will be lost and MMS will NOT work, spent 2 hours on the phone with AT&T support working on this very issue.
If you're going to use the DNA on a GSM carrier for daily use, it's best to flash something like NOS M7 GSM version as this will allow the proper APN to be set up and mms will work. Once I switched to a ROM meant for GSM carriers, I have found MMS to be 100% reliable.
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Actually, Pageplus is CDMA, not GSM. Would that make a difference?
Jack2402 said:
Actually, Pageplus is CDMA, not GSM. Would that make a difference?
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It probably would, yes. You threw me off when you said:
Jack2402 said:
I really don't want to wait 5 days for a AT&T SIM card to get here from Minnesota or wherever, so does anyone know of a way I can tell if this device is already unlocked?
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Not really sure HOW it works with pageplus. Sorry for the confusion.
Dave12308 said:
It probably would, yes. You threw me off when you said:
Not really sure HOW it works with pageplus. Sorry for the confusion.
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Yeah, I see. No, what I meant about the AT&T SIM card was that people use differing carrier SIMs to find out if their phone is unlocked. I didn't want to wait on eBay to send me an AT&T SIM to see if my Verizon is unlocked.
Jack2402 said:
Yeah, I see. No, what I meant about the AT&T SIM card was that people use differing carrier SIMs to find out if their phone is unlocked. I didn't want to wait on eBay to send me an AT&T SIM to see if my Verizon is unlocked.
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You will need to do some digging to find a guide (or pay for a service) to flash it to PagePlus. The ability to flash from Verizon to PagePlus is unrelated to the locked status of the SIM slot. I believe you will only get 3G on PagePlus, as well.
Yes, the SIM slot is unlocked for use on GSM carriers, but that won't matter if you're looking to flash to PagePlus.
raichur0xx0rz said:
You will need to do some digging to find a guide (or pay for a service) to flash it to PagePlus. The ability to flash from Verizon to PagePlus is unrelated to the locked status of the SIM slot. I believe you will only get 3G on PagePlus, as well.
Yes, the SIM slot is unlocked for use on GSM carriers, but that won't matter if you're looking to flash to PagePlus.
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Yeah, I flashed my Bionic to PPC myself using CDMA Workshop but never got better than 1x data. I'll probably end up paying $60 to have it flashed remotely if I can't find someone who can help me one-on-one because the threads I've read go on for days and never seem to end =/
_phoey said:
I find that hard to believe seeing that Verizon locks EVERYTHING up so tightly.
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I find it hard to believe that some DNA users such as yourself are still unaware after owning the phone that its called a Global Phone for a reason.
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Hey guys,
I am trying to send a S4 to friend of mine as a gift... but its Verizon, and there is no Verizon in Europe. I don't know what to do with it so it would be sim unlock and it will work with different networks because I don't know what operator she will be using. The S4 is already rooted and I am trying different rooms. I am out of ideas because even when I put AT&T card inside it seems like it cant connect to network...so it cant work with ours network how in heck will work with theirs. In the end off all of it like a mention my friends is she, but that kind of she that will break it without even knowing it.
If someone would help me out pick the best room for her that will maybe be pure s4 with out a lot of complicated stuff, that maybe would self-update for her and any network friendly?
Thanks
PS. all that crap that Verizon is saying that phone is unlock free its crap. when you out there phone cant either connect to network or have that notification that is not Verizon sim witch is ridicules
SaNNeK said:
Hey guys,
I am trying to send a S4 to friend of mine as a gift... but its Verizon, and there is no Verizon in Europe. I don't know what to do with it so it would be sim unlock and it will work with different networks because I don't know what operator she will be using. The S4 is already rooted and I am trying different rooms. I am out of ideas because even when I put AT&T card inside it seems like it cant connect to network...so it cant work with ours network how in heck will work with theirs. In the end off all of it like a mention my friends is she, but that kind of she that will break it without even knowing it.
If someone would help me out pick the best room for her that will maybe be pure s4 with out a lot of complicated stuff, that maybe would self-update for her and any network friendly?
Thanks
PS. all that crap that Verizon is saying that phone is unlock free its crap. when you out there phone cant either connect to network or have that notification that is not Verizon sim witch is ridicules
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The Verizon S4 is unlocked for international roaming. I have a friend who took his Verizon S4 to Europe, bought a pre-paid sim in Europe, popped it in, changed the mode to global, and it worked fine. I use Hyperdrive and have read in that thread about others using the Verzion S4 with European and other international sims. They may have to change the APN, but it should work.
psu90 said:
The Verizon S4 is unlocked for international roaming. I have a friend who took his Verizon S4 to Europe, bought a pre-paid sim in Europe, popped it in, changed the mode to global, and it worked fine. I use Hyperdrive and have read in that thread about others using the Verzion S4 with European and other international sims. They may have to change the APN, but it should work
My friend already had S4 from Verizon and when she put her card inside nothing was working... not even text messages... and she had that notification bar still... so idk... cant tell cuz I dint had Verizon phone out there jet.. its my first contract with them and my last I think.. ATT phone are so much easier to deal with..
but for know I need to think of something... for her I know hyper driver but I was using other rom I think google edition with original android? not Samsung edition and it look nice and smooth and easy, something for her but I cant find any room like that with option for international... or I think the main problem is to have option to have APN option so manually I can add network.. for not even ATT cant connect to it...
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SaNNeK said:
Hey guys,
I am trying to send a S4 to friend of mine as a gift... but its Verizon, and there is no Verizon in Europe. I don't know what to do with it so it would be sim unlock and it will work with different networks because I don't know what operator she will be using. The S4 is already rooted and I am trying different rooms. I am out of ideas because even when I put AT&T card inside it seems like it cant connect to network...so it cant work with ours network how in heck will work with theirs. In the end off all of it like a mention my friends is she, but that kind of she that will break it without even knowing it.
If someone would help me out pick the best room for her that will maybe be pure s4 with out a lot of complicated stuff, that maybe would self-update for her and any network friendly?
Thanks
PS. all that crap that Verizon is saying that phone is unlock free its crap. when you out there phone cant either connect to network or have that notification that is not Verizon sim witch is ridicules
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basically what I need to do to:
1. Make Verizon S4 working in Europe?
2. What rom will be the best for that (self updating, not complicated, could look like Samsung android but I would prefer Google edition for her cuz it might be just easier on long rom)?
3. Does it have to be multi-carrier rom or just the one with open APN option?
4. Any other information I have to consider, since its going to be a gift phone I will not have future ability to look at it at least for know so I need something that might have chance to run smooth for couple months.
Original S4 with nothing done to it, pure out of box. dint work that well, was not able to send messages and they count add new APN. In the end of the story the phone was stolen... so I know I have to make this one work here before I will send it there...
psu90 said:
The Verizon S4 is unlocked for international roaming. I have a friend who took his Verizon S4 to Europe, bought a pre-paid sim in Europe, popped it in, changed the mode to global, and it worked fine. I use Hyperdrive and have read in that thread about others using the Verzion S4 with European and other international sims. They may have to change the APN, but it should work.
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I just put hyperdrive on s4 and I will try to see my friend with att car but option to add ne APN is blocked
SaNNeK said:
I just put hyperdrive on s4 and I will try to see my friend with att car but option to add ne APN is blocked
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Install a non-Verizon SIM and enable GSM mode. You'll then be allowed to enter an APN.
k1mu said:
Install a non-Verizon SIM and enable GSM mode. You'll then be allowed to enter an APN.
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well I am waiting for friend of mine cuz he has ATT micro sim, but when I send first S4 to her, she went to phone store and apparently they tried with her sim card and it dint work neither... I am not saying u are wrong, I will try like u said with ATT card first and that first S4 was pure stock , so maybe that's why... idk...
any other suggestions?
can I use any rom as long is APN accessible ?
SaNNeK said:
basically what I need to do to:
1. Make Verizon S4 working in Europe?
2. What rom will be the best for that (self updating, not complicated, could look like Samsung android but I would prefer Google edition for her cuz it might be just easier on long rom)?
3. Does it have to be multi-carrier rom or just the one with open APN option?
4. Any other information I have to consider, since its going to be a gift phone I will not have future ability to look at it at least for know so I need something that might have chance to run smooth for couple months.
Original S4 with nothing done to it, pure out of box. dint work that well, was not able to send messages and they count add new APN. In the end of the story the phone was stolen... so I know I have to make this one work here before I will send it there...
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Can I install rom from different country on my Verizon s4?
SaNNeK said:
well I am waiting for friend of mine cuz he has ATT micro sim, but when I send first S4 to her, she went to phone store and apparently they tried with her sim card and it dint work neither... I am not saying u are wrong, I will try like u said with ATT card first and that first S4 was pure stock , so maybe that's why... idk...
any other suggestions?
can I use any rom as long is APN accessible ?
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"I am not saying u are wrong". Actually, yes, you are. However, whomever tried this gave you bad info, I was tempted to ignore this (ignorance is bliss), but in case someone actually believes you...
My phone is stock, rooted. Verizon Galaxy S4, running ME7.
Here's what I just did (I tried this again just to prove you wrong...)
I inserted my GoSIM (ekit, Jersey Telecom) SIM, GoSIM has pretty good European coverage, good prices.
The phone comes up with a "Non-Verizon SIM" (this SIM card is from an unknown source") warning. Ignore that.
Menu/Settings/More Networks/Mobile Networks.
Tap on Network mode. Select "GSM/UMTS". When it asks you "System select" choose Automatic.
You've got to disable Global mode since that will prefer CDMA, which is still working for you in the US in a VZ coverage area. GSM/UMTS disables CDMA.
Now, click on "Access Point Names". The VZ LTE one shows but is now greyed out.
Click on the Menu soft key, Click on "Add new access point". That's now enabled. (If you try this with a VZ SIM installed, that menu will be greyed out, which is quite reasonable.)
Fill in the APN, hit save. Now you can select that APN.
Mobile data is now enabled. It reads "AT&T UK" as the network for me, which is reasonable since I'm using a UK SIM.
As several people have said, this phone is unlocked out-of-the-box. It doesn't matter what ROM you run, you can use whatever GSM SIM you like as long as the network bands that the GS4 supports match what your provider uses.
I don't know if there's something in the stock ROM that blocks US domestic carriers (t-mobile, at&t); that's possible, as VZ has done stuff like that in the past. That's not what you asked, however. At least in my case, a non-US SIM works without anything special to do.
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"I am not saying u are wrong". Actually, yes, you are. However, whomever tried this gave you bad info, I was tempted to ignore this (ignorance is bliss), but in case someone actually believes you...
My phone is stock, rooted. Verizon Galaxy S4, running ME7.
Here's what I just did (I tried this again just to prove you wrong...)
I inserted my GoSIM (ekit, Jersey Telecom) SIM, GoSIM has pretty good European coverage, good prices.
The phone comes up with a "Non-Verizon SIM" (this SIM card is from an unknown source") warning. Ignore that.
Menu/Settings/More Networks/Mobile Networks.
Tap on Network mode. Select "GSM/UMTS". When it asks you "System select" choose Automatic.
You've got to disable Global mode since that will prefer CDMA, which is still working for you in the US in a VZ coverage area. GSM/UMTS disables CDMA.
Now, click on "Access Point Names". The VZ LTE one shows but is now greyed out.
Click on the Menu soft key, Click on "Add new access point". That's now enabled. (If you try this with a VZ SIM installed, that menu will be greyed out, which is quite reasonable.)
Fill in the APN, hit save. Now you can select that APN.
Mobile data is now enabled. It reads "AT&T UK" as the network for me, which is reasonable since I'm using a UK SIM.
As several people have said, this phone is unlocked out-of-the-box. It doesn't matter what ROM you run, you can use whatever GSM SIM you like as long as the network bands that the GS4 supports match what your provider uses.
I don't know if there's something in the stock ROM that blocks US domestic carriers (t-mobile, at&t); that's possible, as VZ has done stuff like that in the past. That's not what you asked, however. At least in my case, a non-US SIM works without anything special to do.
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How am I wrong? By saying "I am not saying u are wrong"? I dint tried it... I dint had that phone in Europe... and I dint plug in card... I said she put hers in and when to some kinds a store... they dint do it... not me... and even by saying that I was not trying to offend you... and that's why we have forums so we can learn and ask questions...
either way that notification "The phone comes up with a "Non-Verizon SIM" (this SIM card is from an unknown source") warning. Ignore that." can it be removed? that phone will not be use in US any time soon maybe in 6 moths.. so I am trying to make it look as normal as it can...
can I use any rom and will that method work? I am trying to get her something with 4.3, looks nice and its simpler that Samsung stock OS...
SaNNeK said:
either way that notification "The phone comes up with a "Non-Verizon SIM" (this SIM card is from an unknown source") warning. Ignore that." can it be removed? that phone will not be use in US any time soon maybe in 6 moths.. so I am trying to make it look as normal as it can...
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That's something I can't answer, but it's very possible that custom ROMs won't display that noise. Unfortunately, that'll mean rooting it, installing SafeStrap, then experimenting.
SaNNeK said:
can I use any rom and will that method work? I am trying to get her something with 4.3, looks nice and its simpler that Samsung stock OS...
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The phone is SIM unlocked, so any ROM will be able to work with whatever SIM you install. In other words, the hardware doesn't have any problem with it, so use whatever software you want. However, I don't know if there's any 4.3 ROMs yet that are SafeStrap compatible.
k1mu said:
"I am not saying u are wrong". Actually, yes, you are. However, whomever tried this gave you bad info, I was tempted to ignore this (ignorance is bliss), but in case someone actually believes you...
My phone is stock, rooted. Verizon Galaxy S4, running ME7.
Here's what I just did (I tried this again just to prove you wrong...)
I inserted my GoSIM (ekit, Jersey Telecom) SIM, GoSIM has pretty good European coverage, good prices.
The phone comes up with a "Non-Verizon SIM" (this SIM card is from an unknown source") warning. Ignore that.
Menu/Settings/More Networks/Mobile Networks.
Tap on Network mode. Select "GSM/UMTS". When it asks you "System select" choose Automatic.
You've got to disable Global mode since that will prefer CDMA, which is still working for you in the US in a VZ coverage area. GSM/UMTS disables CDMA.
Now, click on "Access Point Names". The VZ LTE one shows but is now greyed out.
Click on the Menu soft key, Click on "Add new access point". That's now enabled. (If you try this with a VZ SIM installed, that menu will be greyed out, which is quite reasonable.)
Fill in the APN, hit save. Now you can select that APN.
Mobile data is now enabled. It reads "AT&T UK" as the network for me, which is reasonable since I'm using a UK SIM.
As several people have said, this phone is unlocked out-of-the-box. It doesn't matter what ROM you run, you can use whatever GSM SIM you like as long as the network bands that the GS4 supports match what your provider uses.
I don't know if there's something in the stock ROM that blocks US domestic carriers (t-mobile, at&t); that's possible, as VZ has done stuff like that in the past. That's not what you asked, however. At least in my case, a non-US SIM works without anything special to do.
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Wow... Pulling this old thread up to say thank you.
I had previously gotten my phone to work on EU carriers but for the life of me forgot how and have been struggling with this for a few days now.
Anyway, I did some searches in Google and kept running into walls and after a few days of [foolishly] not searching XDA I called Verizon and they told me I was **** out of luck.
Well, here I am, back on good ol' XDA and 10 minutes of searching I read your post which gets my memory clear and I remember to enable the GSM option. So simple.
Anyway, big thanks to you and big thanks to the community as always.
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Wow... Pulling this old thread up to say thank you.
I had previously gotten my phone to work on EU carriers but for the life of me forgot how and have been struggling with this for a few days now.
Anyway, I did some searches in Google and kept running into walls and after a few days of [foolishly] not searching XDA I called Verizon and they told me I was **** out of luck.
Well, here I am, back on good ol' XDA and 10 minutes of searching I read your post which gets my memory clear and I remember to enable the GSM option. So simple.
Anyway, big thanks to you and big thanks to the community as always.
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Thanks.
Oh, and don't be "that guy" (i.e. ME.)
I was complaining about how poor coverage I was getting. Apparently, switching to "Global" mode versus "CDMA/LTE"
Gee, I betcha it'll work a lot better with that mode enabled here in VZ-land.
I picked this phone up for $50. The first thing I did before buying it was check the IMEI. Swappa said it was ready for activation and not blacklisted. I check most of the stickies and Q&As, but I just want to make sure I don't jump the gun and do something stupid. So I guess this is where my questions fall into place.
1. I want to activate this on Metro PCS, Is this even possible? I have an Exhibit on their network but it takes a full sized SIM. If so, what do I need and how?
2. I want to unlock the bootloader and the SIM slot. Some people have said the Verizon s4 is already SIM unlocked but I honestly couldn't find a straight answer, and since the SIM card I have for my Exhibit is full sized, I can't test it.
Actually, I guess those were my only questions. If you need any additional information from me about the phone just let me know. The last phone I messed with was an Xperia Play and by the looks of it, it's much easier to work with compared to the s4.
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I picked this phone up for $50. The first thing I did before buying it was check the IMEI. Swappa said it was ready for activation and not blacklisted. I check most of the stickies and Q&As, but I just want to make sure I don't jump the gun and do something stupid. So I guess this is where my questions fall into place.
1. I want to activate this on Metro PCS, Is this even possible? I have an Exhibit on their network but it takes a full sized SIM. If so, what do I need and how?
2. I want to unlock the bootloader and the SIM slot. Some people have said the Verizon s4 is already SIM unlocked but I honestly couldn't find a straight answer, and since the SIM card I have for my Exhibit is full sized, I can't test it.
Actually, I guess those were my only questions. If you need any additional information from me about the phone just let me know. The last phone I messed with was an Xperia Play and by the looks of it, it's much easier to work with compared to the s4.
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For one you cannot unlock the bootloader. For $50 though I would take it.
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Illogi.xbone said:
For one you cannot unlock the bootloader. For $50 though I would take it.
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Why am I not able to unlock the bootloader?
There is no method available and Verizon will not do it.
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Xperia Player said:
I picked this phone up for $50. The first thing I did before buying it was check the IMEI. Swappa said it was ready for activation and not blacklisted. I check most of the stickies and Q&As, but I just want to make sure I don't jump the gun and do something stupid. So I guess this is where my questions fall into place.
1. I want to activate this on Metro PCS, Is this even possible? I have an Exhibit on their network but it takes a full sized SIM. If so, what do I need and how?
2. I want to unlock the bootloader and the SIM slot. Some people have said the Verizon s4 is already SIM unlocked but I honestly couldn't find a straight answer, and since the SIM card I have for my Exhibit is full sized, I can't test it.
Actually, I guess those were my only questions. If you need any additional information from me about the phone just let me know. The last phone I messed with was an Xperia Play and by the looks of it, it's much easier to work with compared to the s4.
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You can use it on metropcs by simply inserting the sim and putting in the APN settings, but beware that you "as is" the phone has lte/cdma option or gsm/umts or global. For lte on tmobile network, you have to select lte/cdma BUT you only get LTE, no 2G or 3G, so basically no calls, just data , as if it were a tablet. With the other 2 modes, (one may work better than the other) you can get HSPA+ and 2G, etc. voice calls work fine and data works (assuming apn settings are correct), but you will not get LTE.
there's possibly a way to unlock more bands and options, through the method in this link ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059 ) but besides root you need a custom ROM. I have root, but I'm trying to figure out if I can do a custom ROM on 4.4.2. i know we cannot unlock the bootloader, but it seems some people do have custom ROMs, but not sure if I can get there (safestrap? flashing through odin?).
They use safestrap for anything above MDK and can only use compatible roms. MDK is the only version that can have a custom recivery and could flash ROMs like CM 12.
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Illogi.xbone said:
They use safestrap for anything above MDK and can only use compatible roms. MDK is the only version that can have a custom recivery and could flash ROMs like CM 12.
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Thanks. could you link to the link for safestrap? when you talk about compatible roms, is that only stock ROMs with small modifications?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56030788#post56030788
Most ROMs are yeah TW based and have mods.
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You can use it on metropcs by simply inserting the sim and putting in the APN settings, but beware that you "as is" the phone has lte/cdma option or gsm/umts or global. For lte on tmobile network, you have to select lte/cdma BUT you only get LTE, no 2G or 3G, so basically no calls, just data , as if it were a tablet. With the other 2 modes, (one may work better than the other) you can get HSPA+ and 2G, etc. voice calls work fine and data works (assuming apn settings are correct), but you will not get LTE.
there's possibly a way to unlock more bands and options, through the method in this link ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059 ) but besides root you need a custom ROM. I have root, but I'm trying to figure out if I can do a custom ROM on 4.4.2. i know we cannot unlock the bootloader, but it seems some people do have custom ROMs, but not sure if I can get there (safestrap? flashing through odin?).
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I have 4G LTE on my s4 along with voice and text. Is there any need for me to try and enable more bands at this point?
(I cut down my sim to a micro so now it fits)
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They use safestrap for anything above MDK and can only use compatible roms. MDK is the only version that can have a custom recivery and could flash ROMs like CM 12.
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How do I tell if I'm on 'MDK'? The guy I got it from barely did anything with the phone.
Enabling more bands would help to get better reception, but if it's working goof enough for you. ..then maybe no need
GO into settings and see which baseband you are on if it says anything but MDK for the last 3 you cannot install a custom recovery.
Go to settings - About device and put the last three letters of the Baseband. If it is MDK, you are FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
If not, you are in a jail.
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Enabling more bands would help to get better reception, but if it's working goof enough for you. ..then maybe no need
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Hell I guess it wouldn't hurt to try. I'll look into later tonight along with root.
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GO into settings and see which baseband you are on if it says anything but MDK for the last 3 you cannot install a custom recovery.
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Go to settings - About device and put the last three letters of the Baseband. If it is MDK, you are FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
If not, you are in a jail.
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Looks like FNC5 if I'm doing this correctly.
Guess that means I'm in digital prison.
Yep. Atleast you can root and use safestrap.
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I have 4G LTE on my s4 along with voice and text. Is there any need for me to try and enable more bands at this point?
(I cut down my sim to a micro so now it fits)
How do I tell if I'm on 'MDK'? The guy I got it from barely did anything with the phone.
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Looks like FNC5 if I'm doing this correctly.
Guess that means I'm in digital prison.
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Yes you are, just like many of us if it makes you feel better.
good thing i only paid 100 for mine
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Yep. Atleast you can root and use safestrap.
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Yes you are, just like many of us if it makes you feel better.
good thing i only paid 100 for mine
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Well for $50 I figured why not. Plus it's an upgrade from my old exhibit.
What's so special about MDK and why aren't we able to revert back to it?
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Well for $50 I figured why not. Plus it's an upgrade from my old exhibit.
What's so special about MDK and why aren't we able to revert back to it?
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I think it's like virginity
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I think it's like virginity
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Alright so I'll bring my phone to church, have reveren Samsung baptize it so it can become a born again virgin.
Fool proof.
It's just a firmware right? I figured someone would have cracked the code since this phone is a few years old now
Well, MDK is THE ONLY firmware that can use the Loki Doki exploit to unlock the bootloader. But thanks to Knox and Verizon, THERE IS NO WAY TO DOWNGRADE BACK. Since then, we have only been able to find root and no bootloader unlock.
So the solution to get an unlocked 10 working on verizon is like this..
Must have already active sim card***
Must be S-OFF**** AND STAY S-OFF while using this radio
Boot to bootloader
- fastboot flash the vzw radio in bootloader mode (download here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24539885398392983)
fastboot flash radio vzw_pme_radio.img
fastboot reboot
When phone boots go into cellular networks and make sure radio select is global.
Then enter secret menu by opening dialer and dialing *#*#4636#*#*
and chose the option "CDMA/EvDOGSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto"
At this point, you should have data/calls/texts if your sim was already active. If not reboot and re-test. Advanced calling features obviously won't work at the start of this.. but I know for certain can be re-added by our dev community. One verizon dev says he can do this day one. Clock has started homeboy.....
Note this was a collaborative effort here and some very helpful folk whom i have the greatest respect for completed this for the community. @beaups was the first to rock a carbon grey unlocked phone on the verizon network and as such deserves the credit for this...
Again D and team. thank you! I was losing hope quickly with the unlocked working (probably a bit prematurely I'll admit) but is there a place where I can send a donation when I get payed? Attempting tomorrow with sunshine and then following this guide! Halaleiuja! I think that's how you spell it?
Thank you guys, this is fantastic
For those of us with both a VZW and an unlocked model, which should we keep?
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For those of us with both a VZW and an unlocked model, which should we keep?
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Not a dev, nor do I have a HTC 10, but I would say the unlocked would be a better bet. Support straight from HTC as you bought directly from them, unlocked so it can be used anywhere (don't know if Verizon region locks etc) and more likelihood of custom software.
One more thing, a handset purchased directly from HTC has Uh Oh protection, a Verizon unit does not.
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@dottat OK so I am coming from a Verizon M7 and the sim card I have is a different size. Am I screwed? Can I do everything else then go in and get a new sim after the fact? I tried yesterday before the solution and they were going to give me the correct sim, but of course couldn't get it to register and wouldn't let me have the sim.
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@dottat OK so I am coming from a Verizon M7 and the sim card I have is a different size. Am I screwed? Can I do everything else then go in and get a new sim after the fact? I tried yesterday before the solution and they were going to give me the correct sim, but of course couldn't get it to register and wouldn't let me have the sim.
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I would say go into corporate Verizon store, tell them that you were directed by customer service on the phone to get a new nfc-enabled nano SIM in order to activate your htc10. They will just ask for your account info and attach that SIM cards number to your account and tell you that you need to contact customer service over the phone again in order to try activation. Kinda funny as That's what one of the customer service reps told me was the reason the unlocked version's activation was not working on Verizon that I needed a new sim. Just did this 2 days ago
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so for us coming from the m8, will the nano sim work? or is there now a smaller/different sim?
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@dottat OK so I am coming from a Verizon M7 and the sim card I have is a different size. Am I screwed? Can I do everything else then go in and get a new sim after the fact? I tried yesterday before the solution and they were going to give me the correct sim, but of course couldn't get it to register and wouldn't let me have the sim.
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Do you have another line on the account with a different phone that does have the correct sim? If so you could get another sim for that phone, and you can activate it yourself. (or if they activate it for you, you can use the old sim for it.) Just needed a device to allow the activation for the new sim.
Hmmm, I'll check when I get home, I have 5 phones, but not sure if they have the smaller sim, 3 of them are basic flip phones for business. Not sure if any of them would be the NFC enabled Sims though, would be best if I could follow the guide then have them try to activate the card after the fact. I'm not an expert, but I don't really see any blocker to that route.
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So the solution to get an unlocked 10 working on verizon is like this..
Must have already active sim card***
Must be S-OFF****
Boot to bootloader
fastboot flash the vzw radio in bootloader mode (download here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24539885398392983)
fastboot flash radio vzw_pme_radio.img
fastboot reboot
When phone boots go into cellular networks and make sure radio select is global.
Then enter secret menu by opening dialer and dialing *#*#4636#*#*
and chose the option "CDMA/EvDOGSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto"
At this point, you should have data/calls/texts if your sim was already active. If not reboot and re-test. Advanced calling features obviously won't work at the start of this.. but I know for certain can be re-added by our dev community. One verizon dev says he can do this day one. Clock has started homeboy.....
Note this was a collaborative effort here and some very helpful folk whom i have the greatest respect for completed this for the community.
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confirmed working!!! thanks man FANTASTIC WORK!!
Virus said:
confirmed working!!! thanks man FANTASTIC WORK!!
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So Virus. You've tested and it worked for you.
jbea007 said:
So Virus. You've tested and it worked for you.
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yes sir!
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Does this process need to be repeated every time a new ROM is flashed? Or once the device is whitelisted with VZW should you be good to go?
BranC85 said:
Does this process need to be repeated every time a new ROM is flashed? Or once the device is whitelisted with VZW should you be good to go?
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It will likely require the vzw radio to support it however that's not a normal item flashed during rom flashing so unless you manually update firmware back to unlocked you should be OK.
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It will likely require the vzw radio to support it however that's not a normal item flashed during rom flashing so unless you manually update firmware back to unlocked you should be OK.
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D, is it safe to update to the latest firmware from HTC before performing everything? S-off root, and then this?
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awareunlikeu said:
D, is it safe to update to the latest firmware from HTC before performing everything? S-off root, and then this?
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I would s-off sooner rather than later. Just s-off. Factory reset. Take ota. Then flash radio, twrp etc.
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It will likely require the vzw radio to support it however that's not a normal item flashed during rom flashing so unless you manually update firmware back to unlocked you should be OK.
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Dangit, Dot, now I don't know what to do. I just ordered a Verizon 10 when I saw Jcase and his crew got s-off and root on it. But then I read where they're not going to be able to release a do-it-yourself version any time soon. The experience of sending my M9 to you was flawless and not expensive, but on the other hand I'd rather have the unlocked phone. The sim from my M9 would do the trick, correct? Any advice on which way to go?