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Okay, so I've been with android since the G1, I've had a G2, and now I have the Amaze 4G, and with each new phone I've become more and more of a flashaholic. So I'm mostly familiar with the processes to root and flash android devices.
My issue is that I'm not familiar enough with what I'm actually doing to know whether or not I should go ahead and root my Amaze.
I've read through the discussions trying to make heads or tails of what the consequences are for doing it now instead of waiting, bit I'm not having much luck.
So, question: What exactly would I be giving up by rooting now vs waiting? I know it voids the warranty with htc, but does that also cause issues with my insurance plan from T-Mobile if I were to need a replacement? Will rooting now remove any chances of obtaining full s- off in the future?
Thanks for the help. I'm pretty sure this is my first post (lurker here) so if I'm in the wrong place or something, go easy on me. Haha.
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I'm waiting to see what is going to happen with s-off. I know it may take a while but will be worth it.
you will be waiting a good few months because we have to find a whole new exploite and you can still get s-off while htc unlocked
and yes you can get a insurance replacement if you have to just say its lost/stolen
xboarder56 said:
you will be waiting a good few months because we have to find a whole new exploite and you can still get s-off while htc unlocked
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Woah wait. Everything I have seen seemed to say if you took the HTC DEV root method that you couldn't get S-OFF.
If I can do HTC Dev AND still get S-OFF, I'm sold....
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you will be waiting a good few months because we have to find a whole new exploite and you can still get s-off while htc unlocked
and yes you can get a insurance replacement if you have to just say its lost/stolen
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xboarder,
Please correct me if I'm wrong but, if someone uses the htcdev unlock but then in the future, a locked bootloader is needed for a S-OFF exploit, can't we use the RUU you posted in the dev forum to re-lock it?
I mean, it won't reset the warranty, but shouldn't it re-lock the bootloader?
Spovik said:
Woah wait. Everything I have seen seemed to say if you took the HTC DEV root method that you couldn't get S-OFF.
If I can do HTC Dev AND still get S-OFF, I'm sold....
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That was what I gathered as well. From reading all the posts I could find on it, everyone was saying something about S-Off and "Everything S-Off" were different things. Something about S-Off from the HTC unlocker only allows you to change roms and not kernels or radios or something. One guy (I can't find the post unfortunately) said that if you unlock it with the HTC tool, you will never be able to unlock it the rest of the way (everything s-off) so that you can customize the rest of the things. Then again though, I've seen others saying the opposite. Let me know if I'm not making sense. I can try to find the posts where I read this.
I'm not taking any chances.. I'll wait for s-off then root this bad boy.. so far I haven't had any problems with the stock Rom..
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You can relock I just figured this out a ruu can't be flashed unless you have a locked boot loader how you relock hmm
The relock zip I have so you can still get s off when it comes
And ps to the end users why you need s off any ways?
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Well I'm enjoying root personally.
IF I can't get full S-OFF because I unlocked the bootloader then that's what my insurance (not warranty) will be used for.
xboarder56 said:
you will be waiting a good few months because we have to find a whole new exploite and you can still get s-off while htc unlocked
and yes you can get a insurance replacement if you have to just say its lost/stolen
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Im not quite sure thats how it works, man, because if you officially void your warranty, Tmo and Assurion will know about that, make sure... i mean these are big companies that leave nothing to chance (especially insurance companies), so its a common sense to think that when it comes to the most expensive Tmo android smartphone right now, htc has a way of warning them about warranty voids! So even if you call saying youve lost it or got stolen, assurion may decline your request based on that... I wouldnt take the risk and will patiently wait till another way of unlocking the bootloader comes out, not involving htc... hopefully... you just keep up the great work, man, cheers!
Edit: Just found asurions insurance form, where under Exclusions says:
This insurance does not apply to loss or damage caused by or resulting from any of the following:
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i. Programming, Repair Work
Programming, cleaning, adjusting, repairing, modifying, or performing any other work upon Covered Property.
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http://www.phoneclaim.com/documents/MetroPCS/Terms-And-Conditions-New-York.pdf
Hope that sheds more light on this issue
My understanding, and maybe I'm being ubernoob, was that you needed to have S-OFF to COMPLETELY get rid of Sense. Beastmod comes close to the AOSP I want, but it still has the sense dialer and I hate it. (Unless I am misunderstanding and the sense dialer was included as a matter of preference, rather than necessity.)
Ideally, I'd like to be able to load Cyanogen if it ever becomes available but right now it's not that big of a deal. ICS would be nice, but that's so far down the line I'm not too concerned.
If I can get rid of ALL sense (maybe keep the camera apk), and have a stock, unmodified AOSP with no bloat, I'll be happy, but I don't want to jump on that if it screws my ability to flash CM.
U can still flash cm7 trust me and beastmod I tried a lot to get Sodom dialer but no able to would have to re do full framework but no source hard to redo framework
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Having been with android since the G1, the developers will kick ass and make anything possible.
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TheSneakerWhore said:
Having been with android since the G1, the developers will kick ass and make anything possible.
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I wonder what ever happened to superstars like JesusFreke and Haykuro?
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I wonder what ever happened to superstars like JesusFreke and Haykuro?
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They are around...just not like the old days. Still deving here and there.
\Fauk, I miss my G1.
\\Still have it, not so working anymore
Binary100100 said:
Well I'm enjoying root personally.
IF I can't get full S-OFF because I unlocked the bootloader then that's what my insurance (not warranty) will be used for.
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Good call - duh, why didn't I think of that? lol
I unlocked and rooted pretty much AS SOON as the threads were posted but then I read you would not be able to S-off. Kinda started sweating bullets because I know just being bootloader unlocked can limit how much you can modify/flash.
But "losing" my phone is doable lol if/when S-off is achieved and the htc dev unlock screwed us
So to answer the op's question - i LOVE my rooted Amaze. The two ROMs available by xboarder are awesome alternatives to stock and since you say you've had root before then you know all the cool things that come with the territory (removing bloat/crapware, root capable apps, etc)
Just do it already
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wow lol even in this thread I'm confused.
1. Is S-off method that is out now reversable?
2. Are current methods enough to have a full AOSP ICS rom?
The previous poster indicated sense remains in one way or the other with current method.
How did the thunderbolt get cyanogen,aosp and miui if HTC never released RIL? Who worked on it and how did they get it up and running?
and again, I know for a fact that the thunderbolt got MIUI (unofficially running), how did they do it and who worked on it (I know the developers but I never understood how and who got the RIL working)?
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/2148-rom...vicious-updated-11-9-2011-fixes-again-1033pm/
There is so much drama surrounding all of this and every time i think i will ask questions, i feel like ppl will come out of my screen and eat my head.
I know droid vicious had miui going, how was it done ?
and also how did all these ppl get s-off for the tbolt ? and why is it such an unachievable goal surrounded my loads of mystery beta testers that have sworn eternity of silence when it comes to our beautiful rezound
SO plz forgive my ignorance if I indirectly insulted someone's mother somehow.
First of all. This information is available to you...if you use the search button.
Slayher did RIL on CM7
I forget who got MIUI going
As for miui on the rezound? That dev you link too is well known for starting something, saying he has it, and dissapearing.
What I don't think you understand, is how hard it is to figuire out RIL for a phone. If memory serves me right slayher took a few months before he had it working. Even then it never worked perfect.
Wanna know why people get pissy? People like YOU who keep asking why RIL isn't done yet, and act like it is as easy as pushing a button frustrate people working on it.
We have an amazing set of devs on this phone, and possibly many more coming if s-off gets released. You will get your CM9 just be patient and respectful.
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nosympathy said:
First of all. This information is available to you...if you use the search button.
Slayher did RIL on CM7
I forget who got MIUI going
As for miui on the rezound? That dev you link too is well known for starting something, saying he has it, and dissapearing.
What I don't think you understand, is how hard it is to figuire out RIL for a phone. If memory serves me right slayher took a few months before he had it working. Even then it never worked perfect.
Wanna know why people get pissy? People like YOU who keep asking why RIL isn't done yet, and act like it is as easy as pushing a button frustrate people working on it.
We have an amazing set of devs on this phone, and possibly many more coming if s-off gets released. You will get your CM9 just be patient and respectful.
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To the OP,
I'm no "mystery" beta tester for s-off. I documented and gave proof of what's to come. I will not speak publicly in forums about the method purely out of a thing called respect.
andybones said:
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To the OP,
I'm no "mystery" beta tester for s-off. I documented and gave proof of what's to come. I will not speak publicly in forums about the method purely out of a thing called respect.
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thanks for answering that Andy, I knew there was something I forgot to say haha.
It isn't that they are hiding in secrecy, to back andy up, it is that the guys who figured out s-off are testing 5-7 different devices. I say 5-7 because I read that they may have 7 devices it works on. Anyway, these devs have asked the beta testers to remain secretive on it, until it is released, and it won't be released until all devices are confirmed working. Personally since the same method works on all of them, I think this is a responsible thing todo. If they released it for say the sensation only, and we found it worked on the rezound, but was really risky and bricked phones, how much of a royal mess would they create.
I don't know about you, but if say AndyBones were to say something concerning the s-off method that he isn't supposed to and then we never got the s-off method for him breaking the s-off groups rules, are you not going to be really mad at him? I am as curious as the next guy to how they achieved s-off, but I want to actually get s-off so I am willing to wait. From what I can tell we can't be more than a few weeks away from s-off.
exactly what I expected
Dont understand the reason for the hostility. You guys make XDA such a friendly place.
I went over what I read again and again, and I did not complain once, either did I bash any developers or undermine their work.
My question simply stated was, did i manage to buy the most complicated phone to develop for in the market?
I compared it to the tbolt bec:
1- I owned it
2- they are both HTC LTE phones.
I didnt understand the mystery of the s-off thing, so i wanted some explanation. Thank you for taking the time out to explain it and crucify me in the process.
I do tons of research before asking someone to help me unlock or root or whatever. But from a user point of view, i wanted a developer , or an experienced user to shed some light on the complexity of the situation. there is very little information on how much more sophisticated the rezound is than the tbolt and why what worked flawlessly for the tbolt does not work for the rezound.
I still do not know what warranted such hostility.... but thx for taking the time out to respond anyway.
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Dont understand the reason for the hostility. You guys make XDA such a friendly place.
I went over what I read again and again, and I did not complain once, either did I bash any developers or undermine their work.
My question simply stated was, did i manage to buy the most complicated phone to develop for in the market?
I compared it to the tbolt bec:
1- I owned it
2- they are both HTC LTE phones.
I didnt understand the mystery of the s-off thing, so i wanted some explanation. Thank you for taking the time out to explain it and crucify me in the process.
I do tons of research before asking someone to help me unlock or root or whatever. But from a user point of view, i wanted a developer , or an experienced user to shed some light on the complexity of the situation. there is very little information on how much more sophisticated the rezound is than the tbolt and why what worked flawlessly for the tbolt does not work for the rezound.
I still do not know what warranted such hostility.... but thx for taking the time out to respond anyway.
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so, in your research, did you happen to look into the fact that the Rezound is kind of a first of its kind with the radios it has?
second, the Tbolt was s-off with what a month or so of being out? maybe two months? and was still months and months and months later until we had cyanogenmod.
In this community we had no s-off then finally got Dev Unlock, which our excellent devs had to learn how to code around. It was new to everyone to not have full access to the phone. Also, as stated, there were a few amazing devs that helped with the Tbolt getting both S-off and with RIL, that we do not have on the rezound.
Third, no one is working on CM7 because why would they when we are so close to have a ICS OTA that will give us kernel source to ICS kernels. My understanding is that we need this source to really get CM9.
I personally have been with Verizon since day 1 of the thunderbolt coming out, and been with the rezound about a month and a half after it came out. I think the biggest problem in this forum, that we didn't have with the thunderbolt, is that people are coming from other carriers or devices where they had s-off from day one, and maybe some form of cm7 from day one, because they didn't start day one with that phone.
Those of us that started day 1 with the thunderbolt, understood it was a brand new phone, brand new type of phone, and a first of its kind. LTE was new on any phone. The people on the thunderbolt forums at the time were very patient, you never saw complaining because s-off wasn't out yet, you never saw complaining that CM7 wasn't out yet. People were patient, because they understood that writing for this phone was new to everybody!
I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
Questions should be in Q&A or general, but to answer your question, not everyone lives in a wimax area so what is the point of 4g when there is no signal to use?
^ this. I'll probably need someone to change my diapers for me by the time sprint has 4g in my area. Oops tmi?
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a good sprint locked rom would prolly be a good idea actually since a lot of new users prolly gunna end up with this 2.3.5 bootloader and even later as sprint moves to ics
Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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I live in a 4g area and sprints 4g isn't good anyway so long live the unlocked roms! I mean if you stand in the middle of the street and don't move then it's awesome.
I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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Ill work on that sprint leaked one have a couple testers probably 2night
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I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
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Since I also live in a 4g area I'm not willing to give up my 4g by staying perm unlocked. Ive been reading and learning and am testing a locked rom just adding the tweaks hope to be ready in a few days.
I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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i can honestly say ive never flashed any of your roms. right now my ideal one would be the 2.3.5 with fixed hdmi.. with that id be happy :/
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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you need to look up what open is, as it stands htcs "unlock is getting more and more locked down
I understand what you mean about htc being more locked down...that is why htc was second in my choices of my next phone. But I know that whatever man can lock down can be unlocked. It just take the desire too do it. If I was more of a developer and more advanced in this particular field I could spend more time working on it. But I am still learning and trying to figure it all out.
But thanks for your observations, and you developmental skills. We all appreciate it.
Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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In the defense of unlocking, I don't remember when was the last time I wasn't on a ICS base rom. I have full 4g in my area and everywhere I have to go to work. but I like customizability and choices. sprint 3g is fast as **** here so I don't miss 4g at all. I don't think I've even run a kernel that can't be overclocked to 1.4 in a while also... so, I stay unlocked. Also, Rocko's roms are sweet.. locked or unlocked thanks for all the hard work...
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
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I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
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I have an Otterbox Defender that needs to go with it. If you want to adjust the price a little, we can make it happen. You can check my feedback on Ebay if you want and Ill give you my contact info.. Im a straight shooter. Id even be willing to go back to my OG Epic 4G just to get rid of this thing.
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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Rocko,
Your Blur build is what i use when i need to go back to blur Great build! Id run it as my daily, but im a CM addict.
To the OP,
its all in the name of "bc they can." 4G(WIMAX) for me is over rated, 3G downloads emails and all that jazz plenty fast enough. id rather have the latest software then 4G, and ive been glued to CM since my EVO.
MadFlava,
screen sucks for gaming... Solitaire works great on my photon ha ha obviously im not a big gamer. I dont plan to make a move to a different phone unless the devs move. Ill follow them
[rant mode enabled]
(if this affects my chances of ever getting dev status I'm not sure if I care as I've been waiting for almost a year)
Almost every day there's a "I can't find it" thread or post for a file that I personally hosted. Where can these files be found? In a STICKIED thread that I try to maintain and keep up to date. This leads me to believe that the money spent hosting and the work involved in the stickied thread is ignored and unappreciated by many.
People are still flashing 2.3.5electrify pudding on photons after it has been said many times "don't do it". Again this goes back to the previous paragraph. I'm now to the point that if you bork your phone considering that the information is obviously available, you deserve it.
Nobody is developing for locked? Since when? There's three locked ROM's/mods that I know of right now without looking. Rocko Locked to start, which I have said is a bloody good ROM for those that want eyecandy. Imperium Locked is for those that want a barebones ROM that was updated less than a week ago. Here's a surprise for folks. The Deblur/Debloat Script is an ODEXED version of Imperium Locked without the theme change! How many Locked ROMs do you want, or is it that reading and searching are to much of a bother.
Other annoying things are "I don't like the way it looks" complaints and the general lack of "thanks" or support. If you don't like the way a ROM looks then flash a theme. That's what they are there for. If you can't be bothered to flash a theme (and don't say there are none) then don't flash anything. Developing takes effort, time and money. If you are not developing, hitting the "thanks" button or donating then you are leeching, plain and simple.
Also. Why is this thread in the development section? I don't see any development work posted.
[end of rant]
Photon Locked vs unlocked;
Locked ROMs give you the benefit of being very close to the stock base in many cases. Things like PRL and profile updates work and in some cases you can choose to accept an OTA update with little to no issues. You also loose fewer stock features with locked like 4G. The drawback is that battery life is shorter, it runs slower and fine tuning is almost impossible.
Unlocked ROM's give you more choice and greater flexibility with things like full themes, kernels and overclocking/undervolting. It then becomes a choice of need vs want. My daily is my own ROM that is underclocked to 750MhZ single core and NOT undervolted. With the tuning of profiles, my battery fall off is 1% every three hours, video playback is around six hours and during a call my phone never breaks 456MhZ. In short, battery life is insane with a standby mode of 10 days before I get a low battery prompt. This cannot be done with locked. The only thing I loose is 4G but considering the impact 4G has on battery life I can actually transfer more data than if I did have 4G just at a slower rate.
If LTE proves to be more battery friendly then I may change my position but for now I personally choose flexibility and the ability to fine tune over 4G any day.
The DeBlur tool is awesome. I just had to flash back because Im going to participate in the SOAK if I get chosen. Everyone should run the DeBlur tool.
Hello,
I, like so many others am trying to decide between the Samsung Galaxy S3 & the HTC Evo 4G LTE. One thing that I definitely want is to be able to root and flash ROMS on whichever phone I get. I know that root has been achieved on both phones but I'd like thoughts on developer support between the two, and which one (or both) can be set back to an original state where it's not known it was rooted for warranty purposes. I know HTC lets you unlock the bootloader but unless there's a workaround it'll say relocked on the bootloader allowing anyone savvy enough to check that it's been rooted. Wondering if current root versions are S-on, S-off or either with the owner choosing. Or perhaps S-off is a must in order to truly relock the bootloader so it says locked instead of relocked. I also read in my research that you can trip a counter on the S3 the counts how many ROMS have been flashed... Although I also read it's possible to root without tripping the counter but if anything goes wrong, you can't reset the counter.
Now, it seems like the S3 would have the most dev support since it's been released globally but I'm assuming that the ROMS developed for the global quad core version won't be compatible with the dual core US version. Is this correct? Is there Evo dev community really committed so that I could expect similar work being done for both phones?
Lastly, I'm assuming that the S3 will have more accessories available for it given its release on 5 US carriers without any changes in the phone... Seems like a first for any phone but the iphone. Do you agree with this or do you expect lots of accessories and aftermarket items available for the Evo LTE as well.
I know that there's a lot of questions in this but with the phones being so similar, this may be the area that differentiates them. And I know that I definitely want to root the phone... No question on that.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice! I appreciate it so much!
All your questions could of been answered with a simple search of the development section.
Sent from my ice cream powered Evo Lte!
the only thing people are saying that i know about the ONLY thing that better on the gs3 is the screen.. other than that it all go's to the EVO!!! :victory: go on youtube and search evo 4g lte vs gs3.. u be the judge..
kaos420 said:
All your questions could of been answered with a simple search of the development section.
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^ +1
There are already thousands of threads in this forum alone. Best place to start is the stickies in each section.
People in these forums don't usually take kindly to people wanting info, that has already been answered many times before, spoon fed to them.
Do some research and if you have specific questions about a process or feature that you can't find elsewhere, then ask.
One part of your question that I will answer, is that we do have a great, easy S-Off method and also a mod that allows you to make your bootloader appear stock, meaning it can say ***LOCKED*** and S-ON, even without those being true. With this method you don't need to use htcDev to unlock it.
Hope this helps. Happy researching.
evo401 said:
the only thing people are saying that i know about the ONLY thing that better on the gs3 is the screen.. other than that it all go's to the EVO!!! :victory: go on youtube and search evo 4g lte vs gs3.. u be the judge..
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Even that's opinion. I by far and away prefer the htc screen. It's more clear/sharp and doesn't use crayola neon colors.
OP I would also suggest browsing forum for the phones in question. As far as dev support goes, you're likely gonna have to separate each carrier version as well as us/international version of the s3.
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Haha yeah, the screen is the one place that the EVO DEFINITELY beats the S3. Most of the rest is personal preference.
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No, my questions couldn't and weren't answered by searching the forums. Rather than what IS NOW, I was wanting opinions on what you felt each phone would draw... In terms of devs and work for that phone. Now, if each phone had been released for 8+ months, that would be an entirely different story. But let's face it, the Evo LTE has been out for just a month and I'm still getting told by corporate stores (other than Vzw) that the release date was pushed back again until tomorrow. What I was hoping for was some educated prognostications as to how you felt that the dev communities would grow and take on their own "personalities". If you see the potential for growth larger on the Evo LTE vs S3, or vice-versa, etc. These are questions that require a working knowledge of a dev community and how they develop and what draws devs to any given phone.
As far as the bootloader on the Lte goes, there is currently a method to unlock and s-off without htcdev. There is also a method to take it back to completely stock s-on and "locked" not relocked. You must have s-off to accomplish it though. HTC will never know. Just look at the stickies under the development section and you can find what you need.
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Great info... Thanks for letting me know about both the capabilities to look like rooting hasn't taken place AND that Sprint will work on rooted phones. That's a huge big deal compared to Vzw.
Hi
I saw htc official site and there was a software update link i wanted to know is it good or it has lots of bugs?
what happen after installing that update? am i loose s-off or root?
thanks
No you can't
mahdi87_gh said:
Hi
I saw htc official site and there was a software update link i wanted to know is it good or it has lots of bugs?
what happen after installing that update? am i loose s-off or root?
thanks
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Salam Mahdi,
That is the old update to ICS that we already have. There is no need to update as everyone is on the latest firmware anyway. HTC is never going to update the Amaze. It's long dead. RIP. You know it's dead when it's completely removed from HTC's main website. :crying:
Also, HTC only has 100 people creating updates to HTC Sense. No wonder it takes forever. A lot of staff also QUIT HTC, it's a doomed company.
Also, the general rule of software updates is to NEVER UPDATE WHEN ROOTED!!!! You might brick your device or break something. Whenever something gets updated developers pick apart the update and just make it flashable for us. If you wanted to update something you would have to unroot, re-lock and then flash a RUU to get back to complete stock. Then you'd have to update manually. But there is no need as this phone is at the latest firmware.
Did you fix your random reboots yet???
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Salam Mahdi,
Did you fix your random reboots yet???
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Salam SuperAfnan
Yes I did. i used fix permissions option in 4ext and it solved the issue. thanks. it was a good info for me.:good:
as i always said, " U'RE MY HERO"
By the way, did you update SuperSense?
Time will tell what's going to happen to us
mahdi87_gh said:
Salam SuperAfnan
Yes I did. i used fix permissions option in 4ext and it solved the issue. thanks. it was a good info for me.:good:
as i always said, " U'RE MY HERO"
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No problem.
It's actually "you're" and not "u're" lol.
Using the word "you" instead of "u" sounds more professional.
I think the Amaze is on it's deathbed now. It never was a famous device to begin with, nor did it last. It still lived up to it's name, it was on par with the One S (except the One S had a more up-to-date chip at the time). It was HTC's putrid attempt to fix the Sensation's RAM issues by releasing a new device, but they killed both the Sensation and the Amaze in a few short months! This is why HTC is stupid in my opinion and suffers financially. If HTC cared about their users they would at least give us and Sensation owners stock 4.1.2 Jellybean like Samsung did in the Galaxy S III I think you should upgrade to a better phone when you have money. :good:
I'm going to develop for the Amaze again when the ION kernel comes out (maybe it won't even come out cause everyone is too busy :laugh: ).
But time will tell what will happen. There have been all sorts of crazy things in our forum.
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By the way, did you update SuperSense?
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Yes it's on 3.2 now. It's as stable as a BOULDER! There is not much left to do to that ROM. I might bake something later when I get time. It's a nice stable stock-look ROM to always fall back on.
SuperAfnan said:
No problem.
It's actually "you're" and not "u're" lol.
Using the word "you" instead of "u" sounds more professional.
I think the Amaze is on it's deathbed now. It never was a famous device to begin with, nor did it last. It still lived up to it's name, it was on par with the One S (except the One S had a more up-to-date chip at the time). It was HTC's putrid attempt to fix the Sensation's RAM issues by releasing a new device, but they killed both the Sensation and the Amaze in a few short months! This is why HTC is stupid in my opinion and suffers financially. If HTC cared about their users they would at least give us and Sensation owners stock 4.1.2 Jellybean like Samsung did in the Galaxy S III I think you should upgrade to a better phone when you have money. :good:
I'm going to develop for the Amaze again when the ION kernel comes out (maybe it won't even come out cause everyone is too busy :laugh: ).
But time will tell what will happen. There have been all sorts of crazy things in our forum.
Yes it's on 3.2 now. It's as stable as a BOULDER! There is not much left to do to that ROM. I might bake something later when I get time. It's a nice stable stock-look ROM to always fall back on.
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Thanks SuperAfnan.
I appreciate Your work for the Amaze. I thinks it has a powerful hardware and it should be updated by htc. but htc left alone us and now we just have you developers you're (:laugh our only hope, because we cannot afford for new phone
Edit: is there any links to vote for updating amaze?
mahdi87_gh said:
Thanks SuperAfnan.
I appreciate Your work for the Amaze. I thinks it has a powerful hardware and it should be updated by htc. but htc left alone us and now we just have you developers you're (:laugh our only hope, because we cannot afford for new phone
Edit: is there any links to vote for updating amaze?
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The problem is that HTC doesn't care, and Qualcomm doesn't support the chipset any longer!
Luckily, an ION kernel from a dev like Sportsstar (there's others working on it too!) would let us port Sense 5 or Sense 4! And JB Sense 4.5. That would be the rebirth of the Amaze. Until then, we're in a sinking hole.
thank you guys, you'll find a way, i know it