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hi people! im using e10i with mcm 7 2.1.5 na 06 and not the last one because its running perfectly for me now. my question is,taking into account i only can charge my phone if its on,what would happen if it remained off for a long time? how could i turn it on again? would it be a problem? maybe with the computer? it didnt happen yet but i was wondering that today in case i forget my phone for some days at home or something and i find my battery dead when coming back.
thx a lot people! im enjoing my phone as ever thx to ur work and answers.
Well, if you can only charge the phone when it's on then you could face a dead battery if you leave it off for too long.
A fully charged battery should keep its charge for quite a while if the phone isn't on but it will slowly lose its charge. Exactly how long it'll take to fully discharge, I don't know but you might get lucky.
I'd be worried about it only charging when it's off though. Your phone should charge whether it's on or off.
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Well, if you can only charge the phone when it's on then you could face a dead battery if you leave it off for too long.
A fully charged battery should keep its charge for quite a while if the phone isn't on but it will slowly lose its charge. Exactly how long it'll take to fully discharge, I don't know but you might get lucky.
I'd be worried about it only charging when it's off though. Your phone should charge whether it's on or off.
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I konw man, but as I said I'm using previous version of na kernel (06) and custom rom (minicm 7 2.1.5) and it does not allow mini to charge while it is off... That's why I'm worried, because I've seen there are several bugs in new kernel and rom and mine runs amazingly, and I'm afraid to update, despite they allow to charge while de phone is off.
I suppose I will update finally or I should prevent my battery from dying if I don't want to lose my phone too.
OK, guys, I heard that ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.2.0 has issues with off-charging. I tested that for myself.
I flashed Revolutionary Recovery 4.0.1.4, and the phone seems to CHARGE while turned off. There's a bit of a problem, though.
A few friends suggested that I discharge the phone entirely then charge it while it's turned off, for 12 hours. I did that! LED was green when I woke up (12 hours since plugged in), so I disconnected it and turned the phone on. SURPRISE ! 64% BATTERY ! I rebooted the phone, thinking that maybe the % counter isn't showing it properly. No, it WAS showing it properly.
What is the problem?! Is it because of the recovery, again? I thought Revolutionary CWM 4.0.1.4 isn't broken like that?!
The problem is not that it doesn't charge while off. After the phone's battery depleted, I plugged it to the wall charger, then the red LED switched on, 5 seconds later it went off then it switched back on. I believe the phone charged to 100% then it was supposed to discharge to 90% then charge back up to 100%... and it didn't recharge once it went back to 90%, but continued to discharge. Otherwise I see no explanation why it was at 64% after 10 hours of charging...
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OK, guys, I heard that ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.2.0 has issues with off-charging. I tested that for myself.
I flashed Revolutionary Recovery 4.0.1.4, and the phone seems to CHARGE while turned off. There's a bit of a problem, though.
A few friends suggested that I discharge the phone entirely then charge it while it's turned off, for 12 hours. I did that! LED was green when I woke up (12 hours since plugged in), so I disconnected it and turned the phone on. SURPRISE ! 64% BATTERY ! I rebooted the phone, thinking that maybe the % counter isn't showing it properly. No, it WAS showing it properly.
What is the problem?! Is it because of the recovery, again? I thought Revolutionary CWM 4.0.1.4 isn't broken like that?!
The problem is not that it doesn't charge while off. After the phone's battery depleted, I plugged it to the wall charger, then the red LED switched on, 5 seconds later it went off then it switched back on. I believe the phone charged to 100% then it was supposed to discharge to 90% then charge back up to 100%... and it didn't recharge once it went back to 90%, but continued to discharge. Otherwise I see no explanation why it was at 64% after 10 hours of charging...
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I have left mine on the charger over night when I woke up mine was green and said 96% it's discharging to keep from spakin the battery...
Once it gets to a certain point it will charge back up...
Charge your phone till 100% green light unplug it go to recovery wipe your battery stats reboot phone and use it till it dies.
Then give it a full charge and your good to go..
reaper24 said:
I have left mine on the charger over night when I woke up mine was green and said 96% it's discharging to keep from spakin the battery...
Once it gets to a certain point it will charge back up...
Charge your phone till 100% green light unplug it go to recovery wipe your battery stats reboot phone and use it till it dies.
Then give it a full charge and your good to go..
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Charge it tll green while it's turned off, right? Then, RIGHT AS it goes green, I go wipe that placebo file?
I'll do that, I was planning to do that anyway.
I know it's a protection so it won't damage the battery... But it's supposed to charge back up once it's discharged to 90%, not continue to go down below 70%!
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Charge it tll green while it's turned off, right? Then, RIGHT AS it goes green, I go wipe that placebo file?
I'll do that, I was planning to do that anyway.
I know it's a protection so it won't damage the battery... But it's supposed to charge back up once it's discharged to 90%, not continue to go down below 70%!
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Charge it till green with the phone turned on.... Then once full unplug wipe stats reboot the phone and leave it off the charger also make sure fastboot is off too..
Use it till it dies then charge it.... with it off till it goes green boot phone and your good to go...
Man that is weird about yours being off my guess is the stats are screwy so this should fix you up...
Nothing too odd tho ....
reaper24 said:
Charge it till green with the phone turned on.... Then once full unplug wipe stats reboot the phone and leave it off the charger also make sure fastboot is off too..
Use it till it dies then charge it.... with it off till it goes green boot phone and your good to go...
Man that is weird about yours being off my guess is the stats are screwy so this should fix you up...
Nothing too odd tho ....
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Anyway, weren't we told that the batterystats.bin is not responsible for the battery percentage we see?
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Anyway, weren't we told that the batterystats.bin is not responsible for the battery percentage we see?
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All im going off is I have seen my gauge say 99% stuck on that green light saying full charge and never hit 100%
Did a wipe and let it die did a full charge it held 100% I calibrated mine I get a about a whole day of moderate to heavy use outta mine or more depends on what I am doing....
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All im going off is I have seen my gauge say 99% stuck on that green light saying full charge and never hit 100%
Did a wipe and let it die did a full charge it held 100% I calibrated mine I get a about a whole day of moderate to heavy use outta mine or more depends on what I am doing....
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It's been charging from 80% to 99% relatively fast. Stood at 99% for about half an hour =) .
I'll wipe that file, then...? I let the phone battery die and charge it while it's off and when the LED goes green I disconnect it? That was my concern always : do we have to charge it back up while it's OFF or ON...
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Also, what ROM are you using? Given you're from the US, I believe you're using a CDMA ROM that is NOT compatible with my GSM phone . Right?
TWRP 2.0 solved my recharging issues while the phone is off.
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TWRP 2.0 solved my recharging issues while the phone is off.
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I see the topic for it is in the CDMA section of the forum. Would it work on my GSM variant?! I see no refference to that, in the main topic, AGAIN. -.-
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I see the topic for it is in the CDMA section of the forum. Would it work on my GSM variant?! I see no refference to that, in the main topic, AGAIN. -.-
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sorry dude
It's 2012. It's time to aggressively spread the word that discharging your phone, charging it back up and repeating the cycle 3 times while you chant monk songs will do absolutely nothing for your battery.
Battery 'conditioning' methods do not work, are not needed, and haven't been for a very long time now.
That is all!
freeza said:
It's 2012. It's time to aggressively spread the word that discharging your phone, charging it back up and repeating the cycle 3 times while you chant monk songs will do absolutely nothing for your battery.
Battery 'conditioning' methods do not work, are not needed, and haven't been for a very long time now.
That is all!
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Lmao nice I dunno Im still stickin with discharging mine till it drops and giving it a full charge never hurts to do once in a blue moon... Same goes for laptop battery's you don't wanna leave it on the charger all the time sometimes it good to kill them every once in awhile .....
freeza said:
It's 2012. It's time to aggressively spread the word that discharging your phone, charging it back up and repeating the cycle 3 times while you chant monk songs will do absolutely nothing for your battery.
Battery 'conditioning' methods do not work, are not needed, and haven't been for a very long time now.
That is all!
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Yeah, well, I did do that 'conditioning' and it seemed like it worked, at least for a few days. I guess it's just a placebo. That was when I had the Desire and the Desire HD. I didn't have time to let the phone charge while off lately, perhaps I will, soon.
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Lmao nice I dunno Im still stickin with discharging mine till it drops and giving it a full charge never hurts to do once in a blue moon... Same goes for laptop battery's you don't wanna leave it on the charger all the time sometimes it good to kill them every once in awhile .....
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Whenever there's a socket nearby and I have the cords with me, I preffer to stay on the charger and take out the battery. I know it's reccomended that you use the battery 2-3 times a month and never stay without the battery for a long period of time.
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Oh well, my initial problem seems to have been solved. I was worrying I may have a faulty battery / charger. This topic may be locked now... just to prevent somebody from answering something irrelevant and useless to it 2-3 years from now x)
I'm also having this problem.. Was wondering whether there is a solution for us GSM users? I've installed the oldest ClockworkMod that I can find on ROM Manager 5.0.1.6, but that still seems to have the same problem.
Are there any alternatives? Or does anyone have an older ClockWork and a method to install it without using ROM manager?
Thanks
fade2black101 said:
I'm also having this problem.. Was wondering whether there is a solution for us GSM users? I've installed the oldest ClockworkMod that I can find on ROM Manager 5.0.1.6, but that still seems to have the same problem.
Are there any alternatives? Or does anyone have an older ClockWork and a method to install it without using ROM manager?
Thanks
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I let mine die dead put it on the charger for 9HRS and never got a green light might of need to let it sit long using clockwork 4.0
I turned it on and was at 99% and then I got a green light at 100% werid I use a Seidio 1900mha
Nah none of that worked for me unfortuntely.. had to do this to fix it. (install another recovery)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248231
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fade2black101 said:
Nah none of that worked for me unfortuntely.. had to do this to fix it. (install another recovery)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248231
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That is the recovery im using lol.. CDMA tho..
Wish I had discovered it before
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I let mine die dead put it on the charger for 9HRS and never got a green light might of need to let it sit long using clockwork 4.0
I turned it on and was at 99% and then I got a green light at 100% werid I use a Seidio 1900mha
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3rd party battery makers (like Momax, Seidio etc.) claim their batteries hold up to 80% of the specificed capacity, and sometimes, EVEN 60% ! That is RUBBISH.
I had a solar battery (China). It said it was of 2600 mAh. Wouldn't charge my old Desire even up to 80%... So it barely had 1000 mAh, lol.
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And yeah, ClockworkMod Recovery by Revolutionary (not sure how to really call it, lol) 4.0.1.4 is the best... Too bad TeamWinRecoveryProject isn't available for us, GSM owners . WHY THE F*** is it for CDMA only, though. The hardware CAN'T DIFFER THAT MUCH .
ok so i have the stock sony erricsson battery right, i have Naa kernel latest, i have tried every rom out there so far, and my battery is getting drained out within 3 hours, i thought it was the battery bought new battery guess what? same thing again so now ive tried ICS MINIcm9 Naa version, ive tried every version of MINIcm7, ive battery calibrated ALOT OF TIMES ! I am about to try different now, so guys please any advice? any else get this problem?
Try full wipe then flash the rom again
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ok so i have the stock sony erricsson battery right, i have Naa kernel latest, i have tried every rom out there so far, and my battery is getting drained out within 3 hours, i thought it was the battery bought new battery guess what? same thing again so now ive tried ICS MINIcm9 Naa version, ive tried every version of MINIcm7, ive battery calibrated ALOT OF TIMES ! I am about to try different now, so guys please any advice? any else get this problem?
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make a test disabling the data/wifi and bluetooth, don't use full brightness in the screen after that use it normally if in those conditions the battery still drains in 3 hours then I dare to say that is something in the hardware of the phone
DONE all of that ! tried everything trust me well i think ive tried everything, im on stock rom now, calibrating my battery again and again till i get 100% after restart, because whenever i charge it charges in like 20 minutes, lets see how i go, sometimes with 30% battery i get 4 hours, sometimes with 100% battery i get 4 hours battery, makes no sense whatsoever.
If u want u can tried to change a new battery
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DONE all of that ! tried everything trust me well i think ive tried everything, im on stock rom now, calibrating my battery again and again till i get 100% after restart, because whenever i charge it charges in like 20 minutes, lets see how i go, sometimes with 30% battery i get 4 hours, sometimes with 100% battery i get 4 hours battery, makes no sense whatsoever.
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you would never get 100% after restart because the phone uses battery when booting and loading the system.
calibrating if you are talking about the option that erase the file that have the stats of the battery that isn't going to change anything if your phone discharge in x minutes it will still discharge in that same amount of time because that method of calibration is a kind of reset to the %display in the phone nothing else.
if you can. try measuring the mA of the battery after charging it with a tester, then measure it again when the phone display something like 50% of charge it shouldn't vary a lot if the battery is in a good state.
but you in the first post said that you have tried with a new battery and still get the same time. and at the same time say that you have tried the phone with the data off. and get discharged quickly. if that is accurate then your phone have some kind of hardware failure that is making it use more battery than necessary, so you should send it to repair.
ps: also you can check the phone signal if you are in an area with poor reception the phone will use more battery because it will need to use more potency to establish a link with the cell tower.
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you would never get 100% after restart because the phone uses battery when booting and loading the system.
calibrating if you are talking about the option that erase the file that have the stats of the battery that isn't going to change anything if your phone discharge in x minutes it will still discharge in that same amount of time because that method of calibration is a kind of reset to the %display in the phone nothing else.
if you can. try measuring the mA of the battery after charging it with a tester, then measure it again when the phone display something like 50% of charge it shouldn't vary a lot if the battery is in a good state.
but you in the first post said that you have tried with a new battery and still get the same time. and at the same time say that you have tried the phone with the data off. and get discharged quickly. if that is accurate then your phone have some kind of hardware failure that is making it use more battery than necessary, so you should send it to repair.
ps: also you can check the phone signal if you are in an area with poor reception the phone will use more battery because it will need to use more potency to establish a link with the cell tower.
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nope not in an area with poor signal, ok im thinkin its an hardware failure as well, i might need to buy an external charger , my charging port might be screwed up, but like when i let my battery die down a little bit, and then i calibrate when it is at about 40% i then wipe battery stats and restart phone its at 22% and it stayed at 22% all night i didnt put it too charge and i listened to music for about 30 minutes or so, now i dont know what the f*** is going on i love my x10 mini pro, i just want this solved
I sort of got this kind of problem when i was running MiniCM2.2.0. It really buggered up the battery, it would lose about 7 or 8 percent when i was just looking at the lockscreen after powering up my phone.
Sometimes it will just drain like in no time at all, complain that i have to charge it, but when I turn off the phone and restart it, and it will say i'm at 60 percent. sometimes that is true, sometimes not, i only put it on the charger when I'm reasonably sure there is no power left, ie, if after a restart of two or three it will still say i'm under 10%.
So, whenever it runs out of power,do a restart and see how much power you've got left. don't charge it until you're absolutely sure you have to. Still not sure where it leads to, but I don't think i'll get back the battery-endurance i had before., which was about 3 or 4 days on fairly minimal use, without 3g or wifi.
(PS: Don't wipe battery stats until the phone is fully charged. Charging it from just about nothing to 100% in one go and then wiping the stats seems to give me best result.)
SmG67 said:
I sort of got this kind of problem when i was running MiniCM2.2.0. It really buggered up the battery, it would lose about 7 or 8 percent when i was just looking at the lockscreen after powering up my phone.
Sometimes it will just drain like in no time at all, complain that i have to charge it, but when I turn off the phone and restart it, and it will say i'm at 60 percent. sometimes that is true, sometimes not, i only put it on the charger when I'm reasonably sure there is no power left, ie, if after a restart of two or three it will still say i'm under 10%.
So, whenever it runs out of power,do a restart and see how much power you've got left. don't charge it until you're absolutely sure you have to. Still not sure where it leads to, but I don't think i'll get back the battery-endurance i had before., which was about 3 or 4 days on fairly minimal use, without 3g or wifi.
(PS: Don't wipe battery stats until the phone is fully charged. Charging it from just about nothing to 100% in one go and then wiping the stats seems to give me best result.)
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hmmmm yes thats like my problem, ive wipe the battery at 100 most the time, and it works, but not well enough at all. ill try that buddy ! thanks and i might have a solution in mind, i think it is our phones charging capability not only the roms fault, cause im at stock now and still same problem, im going to try charge battery externally see where it gets me
did you tried with another charger ?
using USB on pc, 10cents USB charger... ?
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did you tried with another charger ?
using USB on pc, 10cents USB charger... ?
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yep ive tried different charger and charging through USB. same thing charges to 100% really fast, and comes back down really fast, every single time i restart my phone after it has charged to one hundred percentage drops by 20% until it has come to its real charged percentage i think it is in the hardware of my phone, am i able to connect a bst38 battery to an old nokia to try charge the phone?
hi,
I recently change from rom IC stock to JB stock (Spain). Every thing is fine except after working with phone for some time & battery used up to 25%, suddenlly the signal drops & phone shuts down. I cannot turn on the phone unless I plug in the charger where my battery is 0%. Also after flashing to JB, I wiped the data in recovery.
Phone is NOT root & battery is brand new.
Thanx
cyrus.666 said:
hi,
I recently change from rom IC stock to JB stock (Spain). Every thing is fine except after working with phone for some time & battery used up to 25%, suddenlly the signal drops & phone shuts down. I cannot turn on the phone unless I plug in the charger where my battery is 0%. Also after flashing to JB, I wiped the data in recovery.
Phone is NOT root & battery is brand new.
Thanx
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Did you create this topic immediately after putting it on charge or did you at least wait a hour or 2?
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Did you create this topic immediately after putting it on charge or did you at least wait a hour or 2?
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it happen after working with phone for couple of hours as the charge reduce normally from 100% to about 25%, then i lost the signal the phone shut down & i could turn it on only with my charger because the battery was 0%
tnx
cyrus.666 said:
it happen after working with phone for couple of hours as the charge reduce normally from 100% to about 25%, then i lost the signal the phone shut down & i could turn it on only with my charger because the battery was 0%
tnx
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Yes, I know what happened you said so in your first post, My point was have you left it charging yet, for an hour or 2 and then tried to boot?
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Yes, I know what happened you said so in your first post, My point was have you left it charging yet, for an hour or 2 and then tried to boot?
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Actually I had the same problem with my old battery. I was advised to change the battery; with the brand new one, I left it charge fully to 100% for 6 hours as per instruction, then turn the phone on as the aforementioned problem occurred again. Again put it on charge for couple of hours to 100% charge then reboot the phone. Right now every thing looks Ok but I am worried why it happened with the new battery. is it the rom or the phone?
Hi guys I really need help:
Its been a few months that my s3 was weird. It would drain really fast and when it got to low charge, the screen would flicker and freeze on whatever it was on. Whenever I opened any power hungry apps at whatever percentage, the flickering would still happen. The only way to prevent this flickering was by having it on AC, on which there was never any flickering so the phone was constantly on 100.
However when not on charge, the battery would fall really quickly I'm talking 1% every few minutes. It would then eventually reach zero and die. But the weird thing is as soon as I plug it in to be charged, it would suddenly be 45% or somewhere around there? This confused me I thought maybe it was the battery so i bought a new genuine battery but no luck as the exact same thing happens.. I am out of ideas I don't know what to do. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying: UPDATE: Here's an example of what the battery life is like: I started a video recording and it went down 6% in 5 mins then 12% in 10 mins then 18% in 15 mins so it goes down exactly 6% every 5 mins for a video recording. I am not sure if this is hardware or software.
syshh555 said:
Hi guys I really need help:
Its been a few months that my s3 was weird. It would drain really fast and when it got to low charge, the screen would flicker and freeze on whatever it was on. Whenever I opened any power hungry apps at whatever percentage, the flickering would still happen. The only way to prevent this flickering was by having it on AC, on which there was never any flickering so the phone was constantly on 100.
However when not on charge, the battery would fall really quickly I'm talking 1% every few minutes. It would then eventually reach zero and die. But the weird thing is as soon as I plug it in to be charged, it would suddenly be 45% or somewhere around there? This confused me I thought maybe it was the battery so i bought a new genuine battery but no luck as the exact same thing happens.. I am out of ideas I don't know what to do. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying: UPDATE: Here's an example of what the battery life is like: I started a video recording and it went down 6% in 5 mins then 12% in 10 mins then 18% in 15 mins so it goes down exactly 6% every 5 mins for a video recording. I am not sure if this is hardware or software.
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Do you use stock rom? Or custom? If custom then check to see if you have right bootloader and kernel installed or any other custom rom related problems. Or you could just download a stock rom and flash it then check to see if your problem persists, if it does then it might be a hardware problem which we cannot help you with.
Replace battery, screen flickering with a battery above 1% means your device isn't displaying the real charge, I forgot where I read but if you let the device discharge to 0% and wait for sometime your battery will 'charge on its own', know that this charge wouldn't last as long as a normal charge;
I fully discharged an old battery then leave it overnight, I came back with 70% power, went browsing for awhile and the screen begins to flicker at 30% and it eventually froze and turned itself off.
Tl;dr buy a new battery
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Do you use stock rom? Or custom? If custom then check to see if you have right bootloader and kernel installed or any other custom rom related problems. Or you could just download a stock rom and flash it then check to see if your problem persists, if it does then it might be a hardware problem which we cannot help you with.
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Hey thanks for the reply. I use stock rom but the device is rooted, and how do i check if i have the right bootloader or kernel please? and how do i check for that?
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Replace battery, screen flickering with a battery above 1% means your device isn't displaying the real charge, I forgot where I read but if you let the device discharge to 0% and wait for sometime your battery will 'charge on its own', know that this charge wouldn't last as long as a normal charge;
I fully discharged an old battery then leave it overnight, I came back with 70% power, went browsing for awhile and the screen begins to flicker at 30% and it eventually froze and turned itself off.
Tl;dr buy a new battery
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Yes thats exactly what i thought its not showing the correct percentage. I bought a new battery but problem still persists so I was thinking that my phone isnt displaying the correct percentage for some reason it isnt a problem with consumption instead it doesnt display the correct power. SO new battery didnt fix it. Thanks for your reply.
syshh555 said:
Hey thanks for the reply. I use stock rom but the device is rooted, and how do i check if i have the right bootloader or kernel please? and how do i check for that?
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No need to check all that if you use stock rom and didnt flash any custom rom, use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.batteryapps.batterycalibration and follow all instructions and check to see if your problem is fixed.
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No need to check all that if you use stock rom and didnt flash any custom rom, use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.batteryapps.batterycalibration and follow all instructions and check to see if your problem is fixed.
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No it didn't fix. I either need software that will display the correct battery percentage or just fix this problem or check my phone if it has problems or the hardware?
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No it didn't fix. I either need software that will display the correct battery percentage or just fix this problem or check my phone if it has problems or the hardware?
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It could be the contacts, I think its better to check it at a service center.
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