Here's some news some of you may find interesting...international will get sense 5 meaning most likely for at&t as well
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/02/26/htc-sense-5-0-confirmed-for-one-x-one-s-more/
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They didnt confirm sense 5, just that they will upgrade the phones with some of its features...
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They didnt confirm sense 5, just that they will upgrade the phones with some of its features...
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I'm guessing it will be pretty close though
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as far as I know there will be Sense 5 but with all the features of the One X (like the whole camera stuff etc.)
But will it be based on 4.1.2 or 4.2.2?
You can probably assume 4.1.2 since the One is launching with that. Unless this update comes after the One has already been update to 4.2.2, in which case there is a chance.
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You can probably assume 4.1.2 since the One is launching with that. Unless this update comes after the One has already been update to 4.2.2, in which case there is a chance.
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Possibly what they mean by missing features
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Possibly what they mean by missing features
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It will be hardware specific things like camera features etc that are on the One but wouldn't be one the X+
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It will be hardware specific things like camera features etc that are on the One but wouldn't be one the X+
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Good point...makes more sense...lol
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It's not a cut down version, simply each phone uses a different version of the same base with hardware specific tweaks.
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Given how slow HTC is with the updates and then each carrier, I will have probably moved on from the HOX+ by the time it's official. Our best bet is for one of the fine devs to port Sense 5 to the HOX+ based on pulls from the One.
Watch this video
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?amp=&v...=rYo7ztJgWv0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
And tell me you still don't want sense 5. I want it so bad now.
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Watch this video
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And tell me you still don't want sense 5. I want it so bad now.
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Just came back home from HTC ONE presentation here in Nottingham... It is nice piece of hardware but... Did not have the WOW effect for me as Desire had... sorry... It looks like HTC made sense 5 more stock android looking not just flat icons and graphic
Camera is slightly better than HOX+ and it is not sticking out which will save the lens, speed of the system similiar but blink feed is perfect, full hd screen and sound also. But not much difference, missing remapping of keys... 3 dot menu everywhere, it needs to be tweaked a lot... Scrolling is similiar to HOX+... I'm not so impressed as I expected
We will get full sense 5 but bear in mind hardware limitation... that was the answer from htc staff
Don't beat me ... I would love to see it on our HOX+'s but not buying phone with such small difference
Isn't it illegal in the US to root or tweak our phones after January 28, 2013 or something like that? I'd love to see that too though.
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Isn't it illegal in the US to root or tweak our phones after January 28, 2013 or something like that? I'd love to see that too though.
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SIM unlock is, I'm in Europe
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SIM unlock is, I'm in Europe
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The rest of the protection from the DMCA covering software modifications has either just expired or is about too. I'm not sure about rooting, but things like jailbreaking iphones will defo be illegal. It won't impact us europeans much. And the protection will almost certainly be reinstated when it is revised later this year.
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Any idea when it is coming out?
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If it has to go through AT&T for us LTE users then we will never see an official update. If you have international then you should definitely get it in a few months or whenever HTC decides to release it.
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Isn't it illegal in the US to root or tweak our phones after January 28, 2013 or something like that? I'd love to see that too though
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I believe it is illegal to carrier unlock the phone in USA. But the other reason I think it's not illegal with htc is because they allow you to do it versus hacking the manufactures software who did not allow you too.
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Soon it is legal again. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-white-house-replies-and-they-agree/
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Anyone have any clue if we'll be getting it? The bliss is coming with it and its a 800mhz single core. The og evo never saw a new version of sense. Does HTC just update android versions? Or have any phones gotten a sense version upgrade?
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I believe the only reply that can be said is who the heck knows outsidev of htc and sprint. I'm not being rude, but nobody knows when anything comes out. Htc has, as other companies a tight lipped, not tell policy. Outside of leaks, your guess is as good as any. Example, we know when we are getting ice cream, 4 quarter this year, do you know when we are getting it for the 3vo? If anybody does know I would to.
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Anyone have any clue if we'll be getting it? The bliss is coming with it and its a 800mhz single core. The og evo never saw a new version of sense. Does HTC just update android versions? Or have any phones gotten a sense version upgrade?
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Yes, phones get sense updates, at least the EVO Shift did.
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I'm curious to see what will be added in Sense 3.5. But if it's anything worth while, it would be rather odd if the Evo 3D didn't get it. I mean, the Sensation and especially the Evo 3D are clearly HTC's flagships so it would only make sense (haha) to have these phones rocking the latest and greatest Sense version.
Unless HTC plans on releasing a new flagship phone short after the Bliss?
I'd almost be offended if we didn't knowing a 800mhz phone is getting it
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I'd almost be offended if we didn't knowing a 800mhz phone is getting it
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Me to. Currently in a 'wait state' for the flyer port or cm. Either the software is kicking good and hardware is lagging or hardware is kicking and software is lagging. However, I still gotta remember, it's only a phone, but oh what a phone...
I would love sense in landscape. Launcher pro is good, but just does not cut it.
We probably will. Only since our phone was just released though.
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Anyone have any clue if we'll be getting it? The bliss is coming with it and its a 800mhz single core. The og evo never saw a new version of sense. Does HTC just update android versions? Or have any phones gotten a sense version upgrade?
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the inspire 4g on att got updated sense when it got the gingerbread update
Who cares sense stinks...
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Who cares sense stinks...
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I would have agreed on older builds of Touchflo--->Sense but 3.0 is very nice and useful; much better in design and function than Touchwiz or Motoblur. AOSP is too bland for me after using Sense 3.0...
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Yes, phones get sense updates, at least the EVO Shift did.
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The EVO 4G never got a Sense update
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The EVO 4G never got a Sense update
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I think that was a poor choice on HTC and/or Sprints part too. Granted the processor wasn't as capable as the current SoC in the EVO 3d but it was tested and shown to work very effectively on the EVO 4G's hardware.
With a little tweak & optimization, it could have been outfited on the EVO 4G but then HTC was likely looking forward to the future EVO 3D...
The Sense Dev site is live so even when 4.x comes around we should be fine.
Given how new our phones are, it's just a matter of time.
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The Sense Dev site is live so even when 4.x comes around we should be fine.
Given how new our phones are, it's just a matter of time.
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4.x with sense 4? I bet that's what htcs planning. Lol. Which would be really cool. The evo 4g could have at least be given 2.1, to unlock the full hardware potential
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really? you probably don't want it! if an 800mhz can run it its probably just a striped down version of 3.0 (without animations and 3d widgets)
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really? you probably don't want it! if an 800mhz can run it its probably just a striped down version of 3.0 (without animations and 3d widgets)
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+1 yea it doesnt make sense for them to put a better UI on something that is.not a flagship and less than half as powerful as the.e3d ..I was looking at some of the new features on the new MOTO features that is on the Droid 3 (not on photon yet) and although I'm not a fan in whole they have some nice features like being able to pan side to side when pinch to zoom as well as a couple of other things..btw I just made a special trip to the sprint store to see what all the fuss was.over the photon and i must say I don't think its as nice as the e3d..the pixels on the screen is.very noticeable to me and the UI is laggy ..
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+1 yea it doesnt make sense for them to put a better UI on something that is.not a flagship and less than half as powerful as the.e3d ..I was looking at some of the new features on the new MOTO features that is on the Droid 3 (not on photon yet) and although I'm not a fan in whole they have some nice features like being able to pan side to side when pinch to zoom as well as a couple of other things..btw I just made a special trip to the sprint store to see what all the fuss was.over the photon and i must say I don't think its as nice as the e3d..the pixels on the screen is.very noticeable to me and the UI is laggy ..
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Same, battery life stock almost pulled me though, but my 3d feels much better
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Not that it means anything concrete, but my friend just got the official 2.3.4 update on his (Bell) Desire Z, and it seems to have included Sense 3.0.
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Wow, this phone seems awesome...
http://www.blogbyts.com/2011/08/htc-ruby-is-htc-amaze-4g-big-brother-to-the-htc-sensation/
I love coming to the SENSATION forum and finding a bunch of posts about other phones. This is the first place I look for info on upcoming phones.
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I love coming to the SENSATION forum and finding a bunch of posts about other phones. This is the first place I look for info on upcoming phones.
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Me too. I normally go to off-topic lol
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Not digging the white. And meh, the Sensation can easily be overclocked to 1.5 GHz.
According to this I'm using an HTC Amaze right now just a little less RAM!
Since the true clock speed of our cores is 1512 anyway I wonder about the over clockability of this device, if they're using the same processor as the Sensation.
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According to this I'm using an HTC Amaze right now just a little less RAM!
Since the true clock speed of our cores is 1512 anyway I wonder about the over clockability of this device, if they're using the same processor as the Sensation.
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I'm gonna have to pass. Only device worth me getting rid of this is the SGS2/Hercules
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Looks like a big girls tampon!!!!!! Not for me. No fat chicks
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Looks like a big girls tampon!!!!!! Not for me. No fat chicks
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How can you not love this
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According to this I'm using an HTC Amaze right now just a little less RAM!
Since the true clock speed of our cores is 1512 anyway I wonder about the over clockability of this device, if they're using the same processor as the Sensation.
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It's the same one, just not underclocked like ours.
That phone looks quite big to me ??
Yeah, so not worth it considering I'm easily around 200 megs of free ram usually. Or 250-280 or 290 -300 at certain times.
Give me a processor I can OC a bit higher, though I don't need it, and that would make me consider an "upgrade"
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I'm gonna have to pass. Only device worth me getting rid of this is the SGS2/Hercules
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SGS2 is definitely the only device in the near future that is worth getting rid of the Sensation for.
Wayyyy tooo round for my taste.
And I would love to have the hurcules but the gigantic screen is a turnoff. I would get annoyed with my Hd2 at times.
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SGS2 is definitely the only device in the near future that is worth getting rid of the Sensation for.
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the only other device i want to try is the optimus 3d since it gets T-Mobile 3G. Its basically the T-Mobile model Thrill 4G that AT&T is getting.
The amazed and the Hercules are both supposed to come with 42Mbps radios which for me would definitely make it upgrade worthy over my sensation
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The amazed and the Hercules are both supposed to come with 42Mbps radios which for me would definitely make it upgrade worthy over my sensation
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I personally don't see much of a need for faster than what my Sensation gets now... Not like I tether often, and when I do I only need email/RDP/VPN access...
A bit more RAM, higher clock, and far uglier body?
Naaaaah... I'll keep my Sensation.
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I personally don't see much of a need for faster than what my Sensation gets now... Not like I tether often, and when I do I only need email/RDP/VPN access...
A bit more RAM, higher clock, and far uglier body?
Naaaaah... I'll keep my Sensation.
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In my case I tether my iPad to my phone a lot. But I can definitely see where youre coming from
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How can you not love this
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Lol!!!!!! Whats with the little tattoo? With that much skin to cover youd figure shed go bigger!!!!!
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The amazed and the Hercules are both supposed to come with 42Mbps radios which for me would definitely make it upgrade worthy over my sensation
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The network will not get close to those speeds though. If this has ATT bands in addition to TMOUS it might be worth a look.
It has an ugly shape. Reminds me of a bigger SGS. Only thing that would make me look twice at it would be if it's AOSP Gingerbread. Other than that, it really ain't nothing special.
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Upcoming phone we know officially that its the EVO LTE. But there is a next phone with 4.7inch screen. Which is a bit bigger than the LTE.
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Same specs as the HTC EVO LTE. Idk if I'm missing something but I'd like to hear some feedback from you all. I don't know if either wait for the HTC EVO LTE or the so called HTC Jet. And , will that mean that the EVO family has come to an end?
Btw the htc jet seems to have corning gorilla glass 2! Want to know the difference between 1 and 2? Our EVO 3D has Regular corning gorilla glass
-Gorilla Glass 2 review
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...2-hands-on-video/&category=classic&postPage=1
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http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Jet_id7014
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s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-119-htc-evo-successor-to-jet-onto-the-scene-june-10th/
Nvm , EVO LTE has a 4.7 inch screen also so my bad for that last statement saying that HTC Jet has a bigger screen
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Sounds like the codename for the Evo LTE.
Why would they release another phone with the exact same specs?
Maybe these two are the same phone. I don't know, what throws me off is that the Jet has no kickstand and the LTE does.
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Probably VZW version of one x
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Probably VZW version of one x
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New info came in, this is its white version of the Jet, read the back, it says sprint. Either PhotoShop or a leak. To me it doesn't look PhotoShop'd
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New info came in, this is its white version of the Jet, read the back, it says sprint. Either PhotoShop or a leak. To me it doesn't look PhotoShop'd
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Hmm interesting
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Awww could they have removed the kickstand? Not again.
Now the real question should be, why release TWO similar phones with similar specs so close by? (Rumored release date for the Jet is June) While the LTE release date is mid May.
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What's the diff between EVO LTE n this jet tho other then no kickstand or removable storage.
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The jet seems to have a removable battery though... And no kickstand , while the LTE has otherwise, Kickstand and no removable battery
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As I said, the Jet is the rumored version of the LTE before HTC actually announced it and it's real specs.
There is no reason HTC would ever release 2 devices that are almost exactly the same in such a short time frame.
Hmm wonder why they didn't announce it then also why would the push two of the same phone.. I mean same processor n **** right? Seems weird I bet it is sprints upgrade of the hero/design. Even with the bigger screen.
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As I said, the Jet is the rumored version of the LTE before HTC actually announced it and it's real specs.
There is no reason HTC would ever release 2 devices that are almost exactly the same in such a short time frame.
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Oh ok, then any idea where they got the pictures?
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Oh ok, then any idea where they got the pictures?
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I think those are pictures of the HTC Evo LTE.
Not to mention preorders start may 13 for EVO LTE I would assume release date is June 10th that's Damn close to the release for the other evos of the past
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I think those are pictures of the HTC Evo LTE.
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They aren't the pictures of the LTE. Go look at the LTE and compare them to these pictures.
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Oh,
UPDATE, the HTC jet actually comes out in Q4 as stated
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Oh,
UPDATE, the HTC jet actually comes out in Q4 as stated
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Link and still makes no sense reason I say link the og ones doesn't say anything about a update unless I missed it.
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..looks like the one X
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Compared to say the note 2 which was also recently released? And just overall feelings.
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Here's mine View attachment 1489860
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Thats stock? If so, thats better than the note 2 stock. What kind of chip specs is this for the at&t version?
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Thats stock? If so, thats better than the note 2 stock. What kind of chip specs is this for the at&t version?
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I recently sold my note 2, as i never used it after i got my HOX+.
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Nidia Tegra 3 AP37
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Anyone have comparisons to phones with the S4 Pro and 2GB ram like the LG Optimus G or HTC DROID DNA? The HOX+ will obviously be slower but I'd like to know by how much.
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Anyone have comparisons to phones with the S4 Pro and 2GB ram like the LG Optimus G or HTC DROID DNA?
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You'd probably have to go into those forums and ask and then you can post here
Playing with the OG in the store and the X+, their quadrant scores where with in a few hundred points of each other.
I think it scored like a 7700+ score
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Around the 7800 points with my One X+
With about 100 apps / widgets and games installed
Mine hit around 7300.
Well i just played with one of these at att store. Im on the one x now, but i want the plus version. I like the 64gb of storage, and the jb seems really smooth! I will more than likely b getting one soon. What r ur guys thoughts on it?
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Well i just played with one of these at att store. Im on the one x now, but i want the plus version. I like the 64gb of storage, and the jb seems really smooth! I will more than likely b getting one soon. What r ur guys thoughts on it?
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Also went to the ATT today to compare side by side OneX and OneX+, gotta admit that I haven't noticed that much difference in screen quality/color reproduction others talked about! That matte rubbery feel to the device is nice and 64gb Only thing I wonder is if that stock firmware is rootable as is? Been mentioned, hopefully international and ATT versions are very same, like Inspire and DHD
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Also went to the ATT today to compare side by side OneX and OneX+, gotta admit that I haven't noticed that much difference in screen quality/color reproduction others talked about! That matte rubbery feel to the device is nice and 64gb Only thing I wonder is if that stock firmware is rootable as is? Been mentioned, hopefully international and ATT versions are very same, like Inspire and DHD
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I like the storage, and the fact that its black. And has jb. But asside from that.......ya, i dnt know......maybe ill not get one? We will c what happens. we should have jb any day now so.........
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not too bad with 30 or so apps downloaded already plus the bloat
I like it and it feels like a nice jump from the one x. Love the black soft touch and I find it to be smoother than the note 2 international version I owned a couple weeks. Screen seems just as good as the original.
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It's rootable but there's no point with no custom recovery working for us on AT&T network yet.
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I like the storage, and the fact that its black. And has jb. But asside from that.......ya, i dnt know......maybe ill not get one? We will c what happens. we should have jb any day now so.........
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I made the change. I'm liking it so far.
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It's rootable but there's no point with no custom recovery working for us on AT&T network yet.
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If it's rootable, we could remove the bloat. To me, that's a huge deal. However, I didn't think we could gain root yet...
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droidiac13 said:
I made the change. I'm liking it so far.
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If it's rootable, we could remove the bloat. To me, that's a huge deal. However, I didn't think we could gain root yet...
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U got one droid! Awesome. And ur liking it? How didderent is jb?
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zounduser said:
U got one droid! Awesome. And ur liking it? How didderent is jb?
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I'm still putting it thorough the paces, but so far so good. I sent Xs a crap load of pictures he was going to put on the TN site, but I don't know if he's had time. Some very nice tweaks to Sense though. I really like those upgrades. For instance, the profile pictures synced from FB are now high res. Shoot me a PM with your email. In the morning I'll send you the stuff I sent to Xs. 64gb is awesome too!
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droidiac13 said:
I'm still putting it thorough the paces, but so far so good. I sent Xs a crap load of pictures he was going to put on the TN site, but I don't know if he's had time. Some very nice tweaks to Sense though. I really like those upgrades. For instance, the profile pictures synced from FB are now high res. Shoot me a PM with your email. In the morning I'll send you the stuff I sent to Xs. 64gb is awesome too!
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Awesome bro. Ill pm u tomorrow. Good lookin out dog.
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Will the rezound ever get sense 5 ?
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DeMato said:
Will the rezound ever get sense 5 ?
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No. Only if someone "can" port it.
EDIT: I like how one answer could have solved this and now we have 8 replies.
Not officially, since "officially" HTC says the Rez isn't able to run Sense 4.
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Well guess it's time to upgrade then
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No 100% positive. Whatever you do abandon HTC
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Not officially, since "officially" HTC says the Rez isn't able to run Sense 4.
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Link to this claim?
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richii0207 said:
Link to this claim?
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I remember seeing it to..something about special chip or something for camera I think
zkrp5108 said:
No 100% positive. Whatever you do abandon HTC
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richii0207 said:
Link to this claim?
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the quote was that older phones would get sense 3.6 in an ICS update and the newer phones would come with sense 4.0 because sense 4.0 is specifically tuned to those phones' SoC's, which is BS considering the One V is much worse than the Rezound and the DROID Incredible 4G LTE has almost the same specs as the Rezound aside from the 720p screen, and as we can see from the custom roms, it runs sense 4.0 just fine (albeit with some battery problems with stock kernels, but that's also the rezound's fault).
One could also argue that with a 720p screen the rezound's scorpion CPU isn't as good as the HTC One X's CPU, so running Sense 4.0 "should be" impossible, but we all know that's just marketing BS and that the tegra 3 is a pretty bad SoC that sense 4 wasn't optimized for anyway.
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LOL.
If the recent OTA update to the aged Incredible is any indication the Rezound *may* get an official JB update, but I doubt it will ever get an official Sense version update.
I also agree with the poster who suggested that the devs will get it done before anyone who gets a paycheck from HTC does.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
I doubt the the hox will even get sense 5. I mean htc does want people to buy their new devices too and not just buy one and have it updated over and over.
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From what I see rezound should be able to run sense 5 since they told us jb was never going to come. But xda dev made one happens. Most of HTC dev are lazy I seen more xda dev make Rom that would never be made by HTC becuz of spec ....smh. I believe we can have sense 5
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Does anybody actually care about sense 5?
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Does anybody actually care about sense 5?
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You mean sense 4 with blinkfeed?
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Squirrel1620 said:
You mean sense 4 with blinkfeed?
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Yup.
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Does anybody actually care about sense 5?
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Me. I do. Even if it does look like an older sense (because it was the same case with sense 4, 4.1, 4+).
Its always nice to have the latest...
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Is anyone working on porting sense 5 or is that an impossible task given this phone's chipset?
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Officially about as much chance as the bolt seeing sense 4. Now a port of it I can see it. As far as sense 5 its nice to try it as I know I like the sense weather widget better than the old sense versions. So I am sure there is something on 5 that people might like
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Is anyone working on porting sense 5 or is that an impossible task given this phone's chipset?
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if the droid incredible 4g lte or the HTC One S get sense 5, hopefully some kind soul will port it to our phones
my sixth sense told me that there will no more sense update